seagate hardrive

[Rosemary Spark]

My husband was in JB Hifi and there had a special on Seagate 2TB drives so
he bought one.
On the box it only mentions various Windows operating systems and not Mac
at all. If I re-format will it work on a mac or should we take it back and
get one that specifically mentions Mac?

Cheers

Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
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Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Guys,

Been following this with some interest ­ but now I¹m a bit confused  ;o)

If the file size limit on FAT32 is 4GB, why is Stephen having problems with
a file that is a bit bigger than 2GB?

Is there some sort of issue with files over 2GB (but under 4GB) on FAT32?

If not - then Stephens problem with a 2.3GB video file would seem to be due
to something other than file size limit?


Forgive me if I¹m missing something obvious  ;o)




Cheers


Neil
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on 1/12/17 5:31, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> Just adding my chart on formats & size limits.
> FAT32 (File Allocation Table)
> * Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X.
> * Maximum file size: 4GB.
> * Maximum volume size: 2TB
> exFAT (FAT64)
> * Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later.
> * exFAT partitions created with OS X 10.6.5 are inaccessible from Windows 7
> * Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages
>  .
> * exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table) 
> * Maximum file size: 16 EiB
> * Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB
> NTFS (Windows NT File System)
> * Read/Write NTFS from native Windows.
> * Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X
> * To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X: Install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X
> 
> (free) 
> * Some have reported problems using Tuxera
>   (approx 33USD).
> * Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard, but is not advisable,
> due to instability.
> * Maximum file size: 16 TB
> * Maximum volume size: 256TB
> HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended)
> * Read/Write HFS+ from native Mac OS X
> * Required for Time Machine
>   or Carbon Copy
> Cloner   backups of Mac internal hard drive.
> * To Read/Write HFS+ from Windows, Install MacDrive
> 
> * To Read HFS+ (but not Write) from Windows, Install HFSExplorer
> 
> * Maximum file size: 8EiB
> * Maximum volume size: 8EiB
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> • Ronni Brown¹s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB
> 
> 
> 
> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
>> Are yes,Šsorry, my bad. Forgot you¹d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got
>> sidetracked on talking about the Trash,Šlol) - I may have misread the email
>> in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),Šlol.
>> If ti¹s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows system
>> then you should be ok with exFAT in that case.
>> 
>> The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or
>> similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB
>> storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from.  I
>> use that when moving files too big to email. :)
>> Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: http://macwizardry.com.au> >
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and
>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry.
>> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or
>> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this
>> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the
>> author be requested.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Daniel.
>>> Thank you for your extensive information.
>>> 
>>> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files
>>> above 2GB in size.
>>> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ?
>>> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user.
>>> 
 On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen and all,Š.
 
 Just a few other things that can affect this as well.
 I¹ll try explain it as best as possible.
 
 With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the
 ³Trash², they will stay there. Unless the Trash is ³emptied² then although
 the Thumb Drive ³appears empty² the items will still take up space as
 they¹re sitting in the drive.
 A USB stick has it¹s own ³Trash². And your User account (it when you have
 the computer on), also has it¹s ³own² Trash.
 Though they can appear to be ³one and the same² they are actually

Re: DAS Keyboards for Mac

[Julie Bedford]

Stephen, I ordered the brown one last night from Amazon  - as it did seem the 
cheaper alternative - rather expensive though, so I hope
it lives up to it’s name.  Just wondering if it would work on my 2012 MacPro 
with a USB2.  If not, I’ll use it on my iMac, so it won’t be a problem.

Thanks for the recommendation - I’ll let you know my thoughts when I receive it.

Cheers
Jewels

> On 1 Dec 2017, at 10:50 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> I did and I absolutely love it Julie.
> 
>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 12:42 am, Julie Bedford > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen
>> 
>> Interested to hear whether you bought the DAS keyboard and how are  you 
>> finding it ?
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 6:44 PM, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Ronni.
>>> But still no feedback on the DAS.
>>> 
>>> It is said “very high quality made in Germany and will last a lifetime”
>>> 
>>> I like the idea of the old fashioned keyboard with real tactic feedback 
>>> from the keys.
>>> The noise seems to be the main complaint from some users.
>>> But now they have released two models, one being quiet sounds like a deal 
>>> to me.
>>> 
>>> If I get one a will keep WAMUG informed.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:56 pm, Ronda Brown > wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 When Apple released the New MAGIC KEYBOARD Numeric K - MQ052ZA/A - $179 a 
 couple of weeks ago I purchased one and finding I really like it. 
 
 I use a external display connected to my old 17-Inch MacBook Pro and was 
 using a earlier Apple wireless Keyboard - Numeric (4 batteries). It is 
 still a very good keyboard and I've never experienced any problems with it.
 But I liked the specs of the new Magic Keyboard so purchased one.
 
 You can check out the new keyboard product information at this link:
 
 https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid-
  
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:35 pm, Stephen Chape > wrote:
 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I guess the lack of response to my question “has anyone any experience 
> with DAS Keyboards?” means that no WAMUG members have used them.
> 
> So I may nominate myself as the Guinea Pig and order one when I order my 
> new iMac.
> I shall provide feedback when the time comes.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
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I did and I absolutely love it Julie.

> On 1 Dec 2017, at 12:42 am, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen
> 
> Interested to hear whether you bought the DAS keyboard and how are  you 
> finding it ?
> 
> Jewels
> 
>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 6:44 PM, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Ronni.
>> But still no feedback on the DAS.
>> 
>> It is said “very high quality made in Germany and will last a lifetime”
>> 
>> I like the idea of the old fashioned keyboard with real tactic feedback from 
>> the keys.
>> The noise seems to be the main complaint from some users.
>> But now they have released two models, one being quiet sounds like a deal to 
>> me.
>> 
>> If I get one a will keep WAMUG informed.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:56 pm, Ronda Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
>>> When Apple released the New MAGIC KEYBOARD Numeric K - MQ052ZA/A - $179 a 
>>> couple of weeks ago I purchased one and finding I really like it. 
>>> 
>>> I use a external display connected to my old 17-Inch MacBook Pro and was 
>>> using a earlier Apple wireless Keyboard - Numeric (4 batteries). It is 
>>> still a very good keyboard and I've never experienced any problems with it.
>>> But I liked the specs of the new Magic Keyboard so purchased one.
>>> 
>>> You can check out the new keyboard product information at this link:
>>> 
>>> https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid-
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:35 pm, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks,
 
 I guess the lack of response to my question “has anyone any experience 
 with DAS Keyboards?” means that no WAMUG members have used them.
 
 So I may nominate myself as the Guinea Pig and order one when I order my 
 new iMac.
 I shall provide feedback when the time comes.
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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[Ronda Brown]

Hi Folks,

Just adding my chart on formats & size limits.
FAT32 (File Allocation Table)
Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X.
Maximum file size: 4GB.
Maximum volume size: 2TB
exFAT (FAT64)
Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later.
exFAT partitions created with OS X 10.6.5 are inaccessible from Windows 7
Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages.
exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table)
Maximum file size: 16 EiB
Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB
NTFS (Windows NT File System)
Read/Write NTFS from native Windows.
Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X
To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X: Install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X (free)
Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx 33USD).
Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard, but is not advisable, due 
to instability.
Maximum file size: 16 TB
Maximum volume size: 256TB
HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended)
Read/Write HFS+ from native Mac OS X
Required for Time Machine or Carbon Copy Cloner backups of Mac internal hard 
drive.
To Read/Write HFS+ from Windows, Install MacDrive
To Read HFS+ (but not Write) from Windows, Install HFSExplorer
Maximum file size: 8EiB
Maximum volume size: 8EiB
Cheers,
Ronni

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> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got 
> sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the email 
> in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol.
> If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows system 
> then you should be ok with exFAT in that case.
> 
> The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or 
> similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB 
> storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from.  I 
> use that when moving files too big to email. :)
> Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
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> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel.
>> Thank you for your extensive information.
>> 
>> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files 
>> above 2GB in size.
>> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB.
>> 
>> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ?
>> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user.
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen and all,….
>>> 
>>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well.
>>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible.
>>> 
>>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the 
>>> “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although 
>>> the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as 
>>> they’re sitting in the drive.
>>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have 
>>> the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash.
>>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different.
>>> 
>>> To try and explain this another way.
>>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the 
>>> computer up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives 
>>> or USB drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the 
>>> “changed icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon 
>>> to an Empty Trash icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will 
>>> be empty.
>>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still 
>>> sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full 
>>> again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These 
>>> items would belong to the Trash.
>>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if 
>>> you have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to 
>>> the Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the 
>>> Hard Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the 
>>> drive back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on 
>>> the external drive).
>>> 
>>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way 

Re: New DAS Keyboard for Mac (Brown keys)

[Julie Bedford]

Apologies Stephen,
just went back through the emails and you did give your stamp of approval.
As it is German made, I am sure it is still functioning like new.

Jewels

> On 20 Sep 2017, at 6:48 PM, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Okay, will do.
> I’ve never heard of these keyboards, but it appears there was an earlier 
> version out
> back in 2012.  It certainly looks a good sturdy keyboard - much like the once 
> we used
> at least a decade ago !
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Jewels
>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> One more thing.
>> Make sure it is the Mac version.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:55 pm, Julie Bedford >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> Any recommendation on where to order ?  It looks a good option to me
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Jewels
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2017, at 2:00 PM, Stephen Chape > wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I got one of the above about a month ago.
 I am absolutely wrapped.
 It is great to use a proper keyboard again.
 
 My typing is faster and far fewer typo’s.
 And I can hear it.
 
 I do not like those flat keyboards from Apple.
 I would recommend the DAS.
 
 Regards,
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Hi Stephen

Interested to hear whether you bought the DAS keyboard and how are  you finding 
it ?

Jewels

> On 18 Jun 2017, at 6:44 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ronni.
> But still no feedback on the DAS.
> 
> It is said “very high quality made in Germany and will last a lifetime”
> 
> I like the idea of the old fashioned keyboard with real tactic feedback from 
> the keys.
> The noise seems to be the main complaint from some users.
> But now they have released two models, one being quiet sounds like a deal to 
> me.
> 
> If I get one a will keep WAMUG informed.
> 
> 
>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:56 pm, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> When Apple released the New MAGIC KEYBOARD Numeric K - MQ052ZA/A - $179 a 
>> couple of weeks ago I purchased one and finding I really like it. 
>> 
>> I use a external display connected to my old 17-Inch MacBook Pro and was 
>> using a earlier Apple wireless Keyboard - Numeric (4 batteries). It is still 
>> a very good keyboard and I've never experienced any problems with it.
>> But I liked the specs of the new Magic Keyboard so purchased one.
>> 
>> You can check out the new keyboard product information at this link:
>> 
>> https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MQ052ZA/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english?cid=aos-au-kwgo-btb--slid-
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 Jun 2017, at 5:35 pm, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I guess the lack of response to my question “has anyone any experience with 
>>> DAS Keyboards?” means that no WAMUG members have used them.
>>> 
>>> So I may nominate myself as the Guinea Pig and order one when I order my 
>>> new iMac.
>>> I shall provide feedback when the time comes.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
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[Julie Bedford]

Many thanks from me too Daniel.  I was aware of the trash oddity, it can be a 
little misleading.  To be honest, I’ve not even noticed exFAT, but next time I 
wish to transfer a file over 2GBs, I will certainly follow your suggestion.  

Cheers
Jewels
> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got 
> sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the email 
> in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol.
> If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows system 
> then you should be ok with exFAT in that case.
> 
> The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or 
> similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB 
> storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from.  I 
> use that when moving files too big to email. :)
> Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel.
>> Thank you for your extensive information.
>> 
>> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files 
>> above 2GB in size.
>> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB.
>> 
>> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ?
>> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user.
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen and all,….
>>> 
>>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well.
>>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible.
>>> 
>>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the 
>>> “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although 
>>> the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as 
>>> they’re sitting in the drive.
>>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have 
>>> the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash.
>>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different.
>>> 
>>> To try and explain this another way.
>>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the 
>>> computer up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives 
>>> or USB drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the 
>>> “changed icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon 
>>> to an Empty Trash icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will 
>>> be empty.
>>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still 
>>> sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full 
>>> again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These 
>>> items would belong to the Trash.
>>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if 
>>> you have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to 
>>> the Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the 
>>> Hard Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the 
>>> drive back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on 
>>> the external drive).
>>> 
>>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, I 
>>> know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, as 
>>> the Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things are 
>>> “Stored” as to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that each 
>>> drive is completely free when I plug it in).
>>> 
>>> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be empty, 
>>> but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, as well as 
>>> things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. So don’t 
>>> realise the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”.
>>> 
>>> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers 
>>> MS-DOS(FAT32) is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new (better) 
>>> format, but on some machines they still may not recognise it. So to get the 
>>> “best for everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32).
>>> 
>>> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully it 
>>> makes sense,…hehe).
>>> 
>>> Kind 

Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Daniel Kerr]

Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got 
sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the email in 
passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol.
If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows system 
then you should be ok with exFAT in that case.

The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or 
similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB storage 
space) and then email them a link for them to download it from.  I use that 
when moving files too big to email. :)
Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 7

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> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel.
> Thank you for your extensive information.
> 
> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files 
> above 2GB in size.
> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB.
> 
> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ?
> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user.
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen and all,….
>> 
>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well.
>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible.
>> 
>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the 
>> “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although 
>> the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as 
>> they’re sitting in the drive.
>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have 
>> the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash.
>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different.
>> 
>> To try and explain this another way.
>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the computer 
>> up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives or USB 
>> drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the “changed 
>> icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon to an 
>> Empty Trash icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will be 
>> empty.
>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still 
>> sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full 
>> again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These items 
>> would belong to the Trash.
>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if you 
>> have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to the 
>> Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the Hard 
>> Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the drive 
>> back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on the 
>> external drive).
>> 
>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, I 
>> know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, as 
>> the Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things are 
>> “Stored” as to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that each 
>> drive is completely free when I plug it in).
>> 
>> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be empty, 
>> but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, as well as 
>> things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. So don’t 
>> realise the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”.
>> 
>> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers MS-DOS(FAT32) 
>> is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new (better) format, but on 
>> some machines they still may not recognise it. So to get the “best for 
>> everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32).
>> 
>> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully it 
>> makes sense,…hehe).
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of 
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>> warranty or accept liability. It 

Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Daniel.
Thank you for your extensive information.

It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files 
above 2GB in size.
The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB.

Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ?
But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user.

> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen and all,….
> 
> Just a few other things that can affect this as well.
> I’ll try explain it as best as possible.
> 
> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the 
> “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although 
> the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as they’re 
> sitting in the drive.
> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have the 
> computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash.
> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different.
> 
> To try and explain this another way.
> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the computer 
> up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives or USB 
> drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the “changed 
> icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon to an Empty 
> Trash icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will be empty.
> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still 
> sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full 
> again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These items 
> would belong to the Trash.
> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if you 
> have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to the 
> Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the Hard 
> Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the drive 
> back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on the 
> external drive).
> 
> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, I 
> know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, as the 
> Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things are “Stored” 
> as to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that each drive is 
> completely free when I plug it in).
> 
> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be empty, 
> but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, as well as 
> things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. So don’t realise 
> the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”.
> 
> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers MS-DOS(FAT32) 
> is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new (better) format, but on 
> some machines they still may not recognise it. So to get the “best for 
> everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32).
> 
> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully it 
> makes sense,…hehe).
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
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> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 9:48 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rob.
>> Just tried thumb drive 16GB again.
>> Does appear in Finder Sidebar.
>> Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now you see 
>> me, now you don’t)
>> 
>> Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32)
>> 
>> Other options are:
>> Mac OS Ext Journaled
>> Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled
>> ExFat
>> 
>> Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ?
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Strange.
>>> 
>>> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. 
>>> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to erase it.
>>> 
>>> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder?
>>> 
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
 Thank you Rob.
 Do you know how to format a thumb drive ?
 It does not show up in Disk Utility.
 
> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen
> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall
> 
> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - 
> can't remember the name... FAT?
> 
> On these drives 

Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Stephen and all,….

Just a few other things that can affect this as well.
I’ll try explain it as best as possible.

With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the 
“Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although the 
Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as they’re 
sitting in the drive.
A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have the 
computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash.
Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different.

To try and explain this another way.
Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the computer up 
and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives or USB drives 
plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the “changed icon” of 
the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon to an Empty Trash 
icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will be empty.
Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still 
sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full 
again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These items 
would belong to the Trash.
(you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if you 
have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to the 
Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the Hard 
Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the drive 
back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on the 
external drive).

I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, I 
know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, as the 
Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things are “Stored” as 
to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that each drive is completely 
free when I plug it in).

I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be empty, but 
because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, as well as things 
on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. So don’t realise the USB 
drive isn’t actually “empty”.

Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers MS-DOS(FAT32) is 
the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new (better) format, but on some 
machines they still may not recognise it. So to get the “best for everything” 
I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32).

Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully it 
makes sense,…hehe).

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 7

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> On 30 Nov 2017, at 9:48 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob.
> Just tried thumb drive 16GB again.
> Does appear in Finder Sidebar.
> Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now you see 
> me, now you don’t)
> 
> Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32)
> 
> Other options are:
> Mac OS Ext Journaled
> Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled
> ExFat
> 
> Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ?
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>> 
>> Strange.
>> 
>> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. 
>> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to erase it.
>> 
>> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder?
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
>>> Thank you Rob.
>>> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ?
>>> It does not show up in Disk Utility.
>>> 
 On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips  wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen
 I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall
 
 The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - 
 can't remember the name... FAT?
 
 On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB
 
 If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. Or 
 in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone...
 
 Cheers
 Rob
 
 On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
> Hi folks.
> 
> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
> The file is 2.23GB.
> 
> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it is 
> too large for the drives”.
> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.

Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Rob.
Just tried thumb drive 16GB again.
Does appear in Finder Sidebar.
Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now you see me, 
now you don’t)

Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32)

Other options are:
Mac OS Ext Journaled
Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled
ExFat

Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ?

> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Strange.
> 
> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. 
> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to erase it.
> 
> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder?
> 
> Rob
> 
> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
>> Thank you Rob.
>> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ?
>> It does not show up in Disk Utility.
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen
>>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall
>>> 
>>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - 
>>> can't remember the name... FAT?
>>> 
>>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB
>>> 
>>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. Or 
>>> in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone...
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
 Hi folks.
 
 Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
 The file is 2.23GB.
 
 It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it is 
 too large for the drives”.
 I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.
 
 But I cannot understand what happened.
 Any ideas please folks ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Rob Phillips]

Strange.

I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility.
Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to erase it.

Does the thumb drive appear in the finder?

Rob

On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:

Thank you Rob.
Do you know how to format a thumb drive ?
It does not show up in Disk Utility.

On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips > wrote:


Hi Stephen
I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall

The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats 
- can't remember the name... FAT?


On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB

If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy 
OK. Or in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone...


Cheers
Rob

On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:

Hi folks.

Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
The file is 2.23GB.

It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because 
“it is too large for the drives”.

I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.

But I cannot understand what happened.
Any ideas please folks ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape

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Re: Time Machine backup

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Peter, thanks for that tip. As it happens, through the night, the TM backup 
was intelligent enough to figure out that it was actually backing up data 
already present and so no duplication and it successfully concluded. Not sure 
why it went into this position of not recognising the old backup file at least 
initially. 

All sorted now.

Regards


Pete

> On 30 Nov 2017, at 7:48 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Nov 2017, at 9:43 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, my sons treats his Macbook in such a way that he usually walks off from 
>> it mid Time Machine backup and then closes the lid which interrupts the back 
>> up. His bedroom is also in a poor wifi spot (which I am separately 
>> resolving) which makes any backup exceedingly slow. I checked his MBP the 
>> other day and it said last backup was a month ago - obviously a time where 
>> he had it open for a period of time which allowed the backup to complete. 
>> 
>> The other night he was copying some content (all five days recorded of the 
>> first test match!!!) from another connected USB drive (via his MBP to his 
>> external drive). At the time of this transfer, the Time Machine woke and 
>> started it’s backup - and the size of the backup was enormous (~100GB). We 
>> selected “Skip this Backup” and then turned off TM. After the Test Match 
>> transfer was completed, we turned ON the Time Machine again and thought 
>> nothing more of it, leaving it to its own devices to pick up the next backup.
>> 
>> It wouldn’t backup at all and a couple of days went by still saying the last 
>> back up was some time prior to the test match file transfer. Tonight I 
>> shutdown his MBP, reset the full network and then restarted the MBP. It took 
>> an age saying “Waiting for first backup” and then Preparing Backup as 
>> expected, then after I had to go out and came back, it said backing up 
>> 540GB!!! The same as the full sized backup of what it was prior. The Test 
>> Match files are in an Excluded folder on the external drive so do not form a 
>> part of this 540GB backup. I can see the backup file is ‘in use’ by looking 
>> from  another network connected MBP at the file. I have let it go for now 
>> but half of me says intervene, blow away the old backup band start again so 
>> he doesn’t end up with a backup files twice the size it needs to be.
>> 
>> It will take a full 24 hours to get through this 540GB Backup but I am not 
>> sure if the resultant backup file will in fact be 1080GB in size, 
>> fortunately the backup disc is a 2TB size so has the space. 
>> 
>> Should I intervene, blow away and start again or let it finish?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
> 
> Do you have a copy of Carbon Copy Cloner or similar? You can always download 
> a 30-day trial copy of CCC (https://bombich.com) for a one-off job. My first 
> step would be to make a clone of the hard drive onto a clean backup disk, 
> just as insurance. 
> 
> My second step would be to cut my losses and simply re-format the Timeout 
> Disk and start again. After all, it IS only backup data you’re losing. 
> 
> The reason for the insurance in the first step is to allow for the possible 
> intervention of Murphy’s Law, which says your Macbook’s own hard drive will 
> die halfway though, and you’ll be left with nothing. 
> 
> With a clean Timeout Disk, start the ball rolling again. It may some time for 
> all this - first for the clone and again for the first Timeout backup, but it 
> should set everything back to normal. As far as preventing your son from 
> closing the lid at the wrong time - I dunno. Self-disciplne or superglue...
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
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[Julie Bedford]

I too have had this in the past and would be interested to know how to format

Thanks
Jewels
> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:45 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Rob.
> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ?
> It does not show up in Disk Utility.
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen
>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall
>> 
>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - 
>> can't remember the name... FAT?
>> 
>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB
>> 
>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. Or in 
>> a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone...
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Rob
>> 
>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
>>> The file is 2.23GB.
>>> 
>>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it is 
>>> too large for the drives”.
>>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.
>>> 
>>> But I cannot understand what happened.
>>> Any ideas please folks ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Rob.
Do you know how to format a thumb drive ?
It does not show up in Disk Utility.

> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen
> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall
> 
> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - can't 
> remember the name... FAT?
> 
> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB
> 
> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. Or in 
> a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone...
> 
> Cheers
> Rob
> 
> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
>> The file is 2.23GB.
>> 
>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it is too 
>> large for the drives”.
>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.
>> 
>> But I cannot understand what happened.
>> Any ideas please folks ?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Strange case of "oversize video file" ?

[Rob Phillips]

Hi Stephen
I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall

The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - 
can't remember the name... FAT?


On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB

If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. 
Or in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone...


Cheers
Rob

On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote:

Hi folks.

Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
The file is 2.23GB.

It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it 
is too large for the drives”.

I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.

But I cannot understand what happened.
Any ideas please folks ?

Regards,
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[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks.

Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him.
The file is 2.23GB.

It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it is too 
large for the drives”.
I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead.

But I cannot understand what happened.
Any ideas please folks ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape






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