Hi Folks, Just adding my chart on formats & size limits. FAT32 (File Allocation Table) Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X. Maximum file size: 4GB. Maximum volume size: 2TB exFAT (FAT64) Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later. exFAT partitions created with OS X 10.6.5 are inaccessible from Windows 7 Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages. exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table) Maximum file size: 16 EiB Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB NTFS (Windows NT File System) Read/Write NTFS from native Windows. Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X: Install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X (free) Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx 33USD). Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard, but is not advisable, due to instability. Maximum file size: 16 TB Maximum volume size: 256TB HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended) Read/Write HFS+ from native Mac OS X Required for Time Machine or Carbon Copy Cloner backups of Mac internal hard drive. To Read/Write HFS+ from Windows, Install MacDrive To Read HFS+ (but not Write) from Windows, Install HFSExplorer Maximum file size: 8EiB Maximum volume size: 8EiB Cheers, Ronni
Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:54 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: > > Are yes,…sorry, my bad. Forgot you’d said it was over 2GB. (Sorry I got > sidetracked on talking about the Trash,…lol) - I may have misread the email > in passing. Ooops..sorry. Too long a day (week),…lol. > If ti’s going to a Windoze user and they have a fairly recent Windows system > then you should be ok with exFAT in that case. > > The other way to do it if you have something like Dropbox or OneDrive or > similar, would be to put it in there (as long as you have more then 4GB > storage space) and then email them a link for them to download it from. I > use that when moving files too big to email. :) > Or similar ways like that too. But yes exFAT should be fine. > > Kind regards > Daniel > > Sent from my iPhone 7 > > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Apple** > > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and > as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. > Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or > accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this > email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the > author be requested. > > >> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:45 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Daniel. >> Thank you for your extensive information. >> >> It seems that the issue with MS-DOS (Fat 32) is that it cannot store files >> above 2GB in size. >> The video file I wanted to store is 2.3GB. >> >> Perhaps Mac OS Journaled does not have this restriction ? >> But that is an issue if it is to be used by a Windoze user. >> >>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 10:07 pm, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Stephen and all,…. >>> >>> Just a few other things that can affect this as well. >>> I’ll try explain it as best as possible. >>> >>> With a Thumb Drive, if you have any items on it, and these get put into the >>> “Trash”, they will stay there. Unless the Trash is “emptied” then although >>> the Thumb Drive “appears empty” the items will still take up space as >>> they’re sitting in the drive. >>> A USB stick has it’s own “Trash”. And your User account (it when you have >>> the computer on), also has it’s “own” Trash. >>> Though they can appear to be “one and the same” they are actually different. >>> >>> To try and explain this another way. >>> Let say you have nothing plugged in to your computer. You start the >>> computer up and are just using it “as normal” (i.e. no external hard drives >>> or USB drives plugged in). If you go and empty the Trash, you’ll get the >>> “changed icon” of the Trash. (i.e. it will go from being a Full Trash icon >>> to an Empty Trash icon). If you double click it to view the Trash, it will >>> be empty. >>> Now, if you plug in a USB drive or external drive. If it has anything still >>> sitting in the Trash, the Trash can icon will “magically” appear to be full >>> again. And if you view the contents, you’ll see things in there. These >>> items would belong to the Trash. >>> (you can also do this experiment by emptying the computer Trash. Then if >>> you have a folder on the drive, (or create an empty folder) then drag it to >>> the Trash. The trash icon will appear to be “full”. But once you eject the >>> Hard Drive/USB drive, the Trash can will be empty again. Once you plug the >>> drive back in, the Trash can will fill up again. (as it’s showing items on >>> the external drive). >>> >>> I always try and keep my Trash can empty. That way when I plug things in, I >>> know if they have anything to “check” or are completely free of space, as >>> the Trash will also be empty. It’s a bit easy to trash where things are >>> “Stored” as to what trash is there as well. (and then knowing that each >>> drive is completely free when I plug it in). >>> >>> I’ve seen this happen before, where a USB stick will “appear” to be empty, >>> but because the Trash can is “full” from things on the computer, as well as >>> things on the external drive, you can’t tell the difference. So don’t >>> realise the USB drive isn’t actually “empty”. >>> >>> Re the formatting of it. For the “best fit” for most computers >>> MS-DOS(FAT32) is the better one to use. ExFat is meant to be a new (better) >>> format, but on some machines they still may not recognise it. So to get the >>> “best for everything” I’d say go with the MSDOS(FAT32). >>> >>> Hope that information helps people. (It’s a bit confusing, so hopefully it >>> makes sense,…hehe). >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 7 >>> >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and >>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of >>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>> that permission by the author be requested. >>> >>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 9:48 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rob. >>>> Just tried thumb drive 16GB again. >>>> Does appear in Finder Sidebar. >>>> Also now appears in Disk Utility (must have a mind of its own - now you >>>> see me, now you don’t) >>>> >>>> Formatted in MS-DOS(Fat 32) >>>> >>>> Other options are: >>>> Mac OS Ext Journaled >>>> Mac OS Ext Case sensitive Journaled >>>> ExFat >>>> >>>> Which do you suggest for use on both Mac and Windows ? >>>> >>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 8:49 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Strange. >>>>> >>>>> I just inserted one and it came up in disk utility. >>>>> Another one didn't come up immediately, but did ask if I wanted to erase >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> Does the thumb drive appear in the finder? >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:45 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>> Thank you Rob. >>>>>> Do you know how to format a thumb drive ? >>>>>> It does not show up in Disk Utility. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Nov 2017, at 6:38 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Stephen >>>>>>> I've experienced this a few years ago. As I recall.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The drives are probably formatted with one of the old Windows formats - >>>>>>> can't remember the name... FAT? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On these drives the size limit of a single file is around 2GB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you format the drive with a modern Windows format, it will copy OK. >>>>>>> Or in a Mac format - but then you can't share with everyone... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30/11/17 6:03 pm, Stephen Chape wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today a friend asked me to copy an MOV file onto a thumb drive for him. >>>>>>>> The file is 2.23GB. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It will not copy to a 8GB or a 16GB or a 32GB thumb drive because “it >>>>>>>> is too large for the drives”. >>>>>>>> I have since burnt onto a DVD for him instead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But I cannot understand what happened. >>>>>>>> Any ideas please folks ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Stephen Chape
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