Re: MYOB Premier to AccountEdge?

[Holipac]

The Lacie drive (just an external HDD with an Ethernet connection) is  
connected to our network (plugged into router), and we connect to the  
network either view network cable or wireless.  We then mount this  
disk as an attached drive (SMB), and can then open the .myo file  
(single user at a time, we don't have a multi-user licence).   
Accessing the disk is noticeably slower via wireless, but still quite  
Ok.  MYOB has a delay when first opening the data file, but otherwise  
works fine.


Glenn.

On 25/11/2006, at 10:02 PM, Alex wrote:



On 25/11/2006, at 9:57 AM, Rod wrote:


Hi Alex,

Does this mean that the data file is single user, but two people  
can share the same file at the same time?  Or one has to quit  
before the other can use it?  If both can share at the same time,  
this would eliminate the need to parallels!


The AccountEdge data file is either single user, in which case it  
can reside on the user's machine and only one person can access it  
at a time, or multiuser (comes with licence for 3 users) in which  
case MYOB have said the data file must reside on a separate drive.   
Glenn has kindly informed that he has the data file "on a network  
attached Lacie drive.  So three users with three Macs could share a  
data file on an external drive (and not require an extra Mac)."  I  
have not thought of that solution myself :( and no-one has  
suggested it so far to my knowledge from around Australia!  So  
that's a good one Glenn!!


Just to clarify that, Glenn, when you say a network attached Lacie  
drive, do you mean a drive attached directly to the network or  
attached to the Mac which is attached to the network?


AccountEdge is one of the very few instances that I know of where  
the Mac community have come out on top price-wise.  Premier with 3  
user licence is being sold by Officeworks for $1495 while  
AccountEdge is priced at $595, which is the price for MYOB's  
Accounting Plus (single user, with Payroll).  So while many may be  
using AE in single user mode for Payroll purposes, we do have the  
ability to expand it to multiuser (3) for no extra cost - unless   
it is true that MYOB have dropped multiuser for Mac (probably due  
to lack of interest?).


Cheers,  Alex


Seeya

Rod!


On 24/11/2006, at 11:06 PM, Alex wrote:


Hi Wamugians

One thing to be aware of is that AccountEdge requires the data  
file to be on a hard drive that does not belong to any of the  
users' Macs (this is different to Premier where it can reside on  
a user's machine).  Therefore 3 users require 4 Macs.  The data  
file is cross platform compatible and only needs the Windows  
extension of .MYO to be included in the file name to be openable  
by the Win programme.  There is no upgrade that takes place.   
There is no known way of migrating the customised invoices etc to  
the Mac or vice versa.


I have seen an email this evening which claims that MYOB will be  
selling AccountEdge as a single user programme only in future but  
have not been able to confirm this yet.  They would of course  
honour Premier to AccountEdge multiuser migrations.


Cheers,  Alex

On 24/11/2006, at 3:14 PM, Holipac wrote:


Rod,
Just did this conversion recently.
All your data is retained.  The file format is readable by Mac  
and PC, so I just send off my data file to my accountant, and  
they load it up under Windows.
When I switched to Account Edge, I just opened up the existing  
file ... there was some kind of automated upgrade that took  
place, but after that the file is still readable on Mac and  
Windows.


Customised forms didn't make the conversion - so invoices that  
were setup as form layouts had to be rebuilt.  Perhaps an expert  
could have migrated these.
The functionality is basically the same - book-keepers who  
haven't used Account Edge before just sit down and use it.


Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 2:19 PM, Rod wrote:


Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our  
PCs at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file  
into AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose  
in the process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in  
features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!

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MYOB Certified Consultant
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Phone: 9305 6310

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Re: MYOB Premier to AccountEdge? The End

[Alex]

Well here it is straight from the horse's mouth:

Account Edge version 6 multi-user issue
===

We wish to advise that we are no longer selling network
licences for MYOB AccountEdge. This applies to all versions
for both new and existing customers. Existing customers
can however continue to receive support for their product
over a network.

MYOB recognised that we were not providing an ideal network
solution in MYOB AccountEdge due to limitations in its
response time over a network, which is why we have come to
this decision.

We are still committed to providing software solutions to
MAC clients and we will continue to assess market demand
for a MAC network solution in the Australian market.

Please ensure that you do not promote Account Edge as a
multi-user solution to potential clients and ensure that
they are aware of this information.

Other important points to be aware of:
* AccountEdge v6 is not compatible with Mac OS8 or OS9.
* AccountEdge v6 works on Intel chipped Macs running
  Rosetta(OSX emulation).
* MYOB is working on an native Intel solution for Macs
  at the moment.

Current clients of MYOB AccountEdge should contact
MYOB Customer Support on 1300 555 123 with any questions
or concerns.

Not so cheers,  Alex

(but where there is a will there may be a way)


On 25/11/2006, at 9:57 AM, Rod wrote:


Hi Alex,

Does this mean that the data file is single user, but two people can 
share the same file at the same time?  Or one has to quit before the 
other can use it?  If both can share at the same time, this would 
eliminate the need to parallels!


Seeya

Rod!


On 24/11/2006, at 11:06 PM, Alex wrote:


Hi Wamugians

One thing to be aware of is that AccountEdge requires the data file 
to be on a hard drive that does not belong to any of the users' Macs 
(this is different to Premier where it can reside on a user's 
machine).  Therefore 3 users require 4 Macs.  The data file is cross 
platform compatible and only needs the Windows extension of .MYO to 
be included in the file name to be openable by the Win programme.  
There is no upgrade that takes place.  There is no known way of 
migrating the customised invoices etc to the Mac or vice versa.


I have seen an email this evening which claims that MYOB will be 
selling AccountEdge as a single user programme only in future but 
have not been able to confirm this yet.  They would of course honour 
Premier to AccountEdge multiuser migrations.


Cheers,  Alex

On 24/11/2006, at 3:14 PM, Holipac wrote:


Rod,
Just did this conversion recently.
All your data is retained.  The file format is readable by Mac and 
PC, so I just send off my data file to my accountant, and they load 
it up under Windows.
When I switched to Account Edge, I just opened up the existing file 
... there was some kind of automated upgrade that took place, but 
after that the file is still readable on Mac and Windows.


Customised forms didn't make the conversion - so invoices that were 
setup as form layouts had to be rebuilt.  Perhaps an expert could 
have migrated these.
The functionality is basically the same - book-keepers who haven't 
used Account Edge before just sit down and use it.


Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 2:19 PM, Rod wrote:


Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our PCs 
at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file 
into AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose in 
the process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!

Alex Novakovic - Best Computer Accounting
MYOB Certified Consultant
Mobile: 041 990 2440
Phone: 9305 6310

"Time is a created thing. To say 'I don't have time,' is like saying, 
'I don't want to.'"   Lao-Tzu



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Phone: 9305 6310

"Time is a created thing. To say 'I don't have time,' is like saying, 
'I don't want to.'"   Lao-Tzu

Re: MYOB Premier to AccountEdge?

[Alex]

On 25/11/2006, at 9:57 AM, Rod wrote:


Hi Alex,

Does this mean that the data file is single user, but two people can 
share the same file at the same time?  Or one has to quit before the 
other can use it?  If both can share at the same time, this would 
eliminate the need to parallels!


The AccountEdge data file is either single user, in which case it can 
reside on the user's machine and only one person can access it at a 
time, or multiuser (comes with licence for 3 users) in which case MYOB 
have said the data file must reside on a separate drive.  Glenn has 
kindly informed that he has the data file "on a network attached Lacie 
drive.  So three users with three Macs could share a data file on an 
external drive (and not require an extra Mac)."  I have not thought of 
that solution myself :( and no-one has suggested it so far to my 
knowledge from around Australia!  So that's a good one Glenn!!


Just to clarify that, Glenn, when you say a network attached Lacie 
drive, do you mean a drive attached directly to the network or attached 
to the Mac which is attached to the network?


AccountEdge is one of the very few instances that I know of where the 
Mac community have come out on top price-wise.  Premier with 3 user 
licence is being sold by Officeworks for $1495 while AccountEdge is 
priced at $595, which is the price for MYOB's Accounting Plus (single 
user, with Payroll).  So while many may be using AE in single user mode 
for Payroll purposes, we do have the ability to expand it to multiuser 
(3) for no extra cost - unless  it is true that MYOB have dropped 
multiuser for Mac (probably due to lack of interest?).


Cheers,  Alex


Seeya

Rod!


On 24/11/2006, at 11:06 PM, Alex wrote:


Hi Wamugians

One thing to be aware of is that AccountEdge requires the data file 
to be on a hard drive that does not belong to any of the users' Macs 
(this is different to Premier where it can reside on a user's 
machine).  Therefore 3 users require 4 Macs.  The data file is cross 
platform compatible and only needs the Windows extension of .MYO to 
be included in the file name to be openable by the Win programme.  
There is no upgrade that takes place.  There is no known way of 
migrating the customised invoices etc to the Mac or vice versa.


I have seen an email this evening which claims that MYOB will be 
selling AccountEdge as a single user programme only in future but 
have not been able to confirm this yet.  They would of course honour 
Premier to AccountEdge multiuser migrations.


Cheers,  Alex

On 24/11/2006, at 3:14 PM, Holipac wrote:


Rod,
Just did this conversion recently.
All your data is retained.  The file format is readable by Mac and 
PC, so I just send off my data file to my accountant, and they load 
it up under Windows.
When I switched to Account Edge, I just opened up the existing file 
... there was some kind of automated upgrade that took place, but 
after that the file is still readable on Mac and Windows.


Customised forms didn't make the conversion - so invoices that were 
setup as form layouts had to be rebuilt.  Perhaps an expert could 
have migrated these.
The functionality is basically the same - book-keepers who haven't 
used Account Edge before just sit down and use it.


Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 2:19 PM, Rod wrote:


Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our PCs 
at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file 
into AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose in 
the process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!

Alex Novakovic - Best Computer Accounting
MYOB Certified Consultant
Mobile: 041 990 2440
Phone: 9305 6310

"Time is a created thing. To say 'I don't have time,' is like saying, 
'I don't want to.'"   Lao-Tzu



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Phone: 9305 6310

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'I don't want to.'"   Lao-Tzu

Re: MYOB Premier to AccountEdge?

[Rod]

Hi Alex,

Does this mean that the data file is single user, but two people can  
share the same file at the same time?  Or one has to quit before the  
other can use it?  If both can share at the same time, this would  
eliminate the need to parallels!


Seeya

Rod!


On 24/11/2006, at 11:06 PM, Alex wrote:


Hi Wamugians

One thing to be aware of is that AccountEdge requires the data file  
to be on a hard drive that does not belong to any of the users'  
Macs (this is different to Premier where it can reside on a user's  
machine).  Therefore 3 users require 4 Macs.  The data file is  
cross platform compatible and only needs the Windows extension  
of .MYO to be included in the file name to be openable by the Win  
programme.  There is no upgrade that takes place.  There is no  
known way of migrating the customised invoices etc to the Mac or  
vice versa.


I have seen an email this evening which claims that MYOB will be  
selling AccountEdge as a single user programme only in future but  
have not been able to confirm this yet.  They would of course  
honour Premier to AccountEdge multiuser migrations.


Cheers,  Alex

On 24/11/2006, at 3:14 PM, Holipac wrote:


Rod,
Just did this conversion recently.
All your data is retained.  The file format is readable by Mac and  
PC, so I just send off my data file to my accountant, and they  
load it up under Windows.
When I switched to Account Edge, I just opened up the existing  
file ... there was some kind of automated upgrade that took place,  
but after that the file is still readable on Mac and Windows.


Customised forms didn't make the conversion - so invoices that  
were setup as form layouts had to be rebuilt.  Perhaps an expert  
could have migrated these.
The functionality is basically the same - book-keepers who haven't  
used Account Edge before just sit down and use it.


Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 2:19 PM, Rod wrote:


Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our  
PCs at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file  
into AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose  
in the process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in  
features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!

Alex Novakovic - Best Computer Accounting
MYOB Certified Consultant
Mobile: 041 990 2440
Phone: 9305 6310

"Time is a created thing. To say 'I don't have time,' is like  
saying, 'I don't want to.'"   Lao-Tzu



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Re: MYOB Premier to AccountEdge?

[Holipac]

I ran AccountEdge with the data file on the same iMac, no problems.   
Subsequently I now have it on a network attached Lacie drive.  So  
three users with three Macs could share a data file on an external  
drive (and not require an extra Mac).  There was indeed an upgrade  
process to the datafile, it ran for some time on two separate files,  
however I suspect it was to do with an upgrade to v6.0.1 (the version  
shipped on disk) from the downloaded version (available for 30 day  
trial).

Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 11:06 PM, Alex wrote:


Hi Wamugians

One thing to be aware of is that AccountEdge requires the data file  
to be on a hard drive that does not belong to any of the users'  
Macs (this is different to Premier where it can reside on a user's  
machine).  Therefore 3 users require 4 Macs.  The data file is  
cross platform compatible and only needs the Windows extension  
of .MYO to be included in the file name to be openable by the Win  
programme.  There is no upgrade that takes place.  There is no  
known way of migrating the customised invoices etc to the Mac or  
vice versa.


I have seen an email this evening which claims that MYOB will be  
selling AccountEdge as a single user programme only in future but  
have not been able to confirm this yet.  They would of course  
honour Premier to AccountEdge multiuser migrations.


Cheers,  Alex

On 24/11/2006, at 3:14 PM, Holipac wrote:


Rod,
Just did this conversion recently.
All your data is retained.  The file format is readable by Mac and  
PC, so I just send off my data file to my accountant, and they  
load it up under Windows.
When I switched to Account Edge, I just opened up the existing  
file ... there was some kind of automated upgrade that took place,  
but after that the file is still readable on Mac and Windows.


Customised forms didn't make the conversion - so invoices that  
were setup as form layouts had to be rebuilt.  Perhaps an expert  
could have migrated these.
The functionality is basically the same - book-keepers who haven't  
used Account Edge before just sit down and use it.


Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 2:19 PM, Rod wrote:


Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our  
PCs at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file  
into AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose  
in the process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in  
features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!

Alex Novakovic - Best Computer Accounting
MYOB Certified Consultant
Mobile: 041 990 2440
Phone: 9305 6310

"Time is a created thing. To say 'I don't have time,' is like  
saying, 'I don't want to.'"   Lao-Tzu



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Re: MYOB Premier to AccountEdge?

[Alex]

Hi Wamugians

One thing to be aware of is that AccountEdge requires the data file to 
be on a hard drive that does not belong to any of the users' Macs (this 
is different to Premier where it can reside on a user's machine).  
Therefore 3 users require 4 Macs.  The data file is cross platform 
compatible and only needs the Windows extension of .MYO to be included 
in the file name to be openable by the Win programme.  There is no 
upgrade that takes place.  There is no known way of migrating the 
customised invoices etc to the Mac or vice versa.


I have seen an email this evening which claims that MYOB will be 
selling AccountEdge as a single user programme only in future but have 
not been able to confirm this yet.  They would of course honour Premier 
to AccountEdge multiuser migrations.


Cheers,  Alex

On 24/11/2006, at 3:14 PM, Holipac wrote:


Rod,
Just did this conversion recently.
All your data is retained.  The file format is readable by Mac and PC, 
so I just send off my data file to my accountant, and they load it up 
under Windows.
When I switched to Account Edge, I just opened up the existing file 
... there was some kind of automated upgrade that took place, but 
after that the file is still readable on Mac and Windows.


Customised forms didn't make the conversion - so invoices that were 
setup as form layouts had to be rebuilt.  Perhaps an expert could have 
migrated these.
The functionality is basically the same - book-keepers who haven't 
used Account Edge before just sit down and use it.


Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 2:19 PM, Rod wrote:


Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our PCs 
at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file into 
AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose in the 
process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!

Alex Novakovic - Best Computer Accounting
MYOB Certified Consultant
Mobile: 041 990 2440
Phone: 9305 6310

"Time is a created thing. To say 'I don't have time,' is like saying, 
'I don't want to.'"   Lao-Tzu

Re: MYOB Premier to AccountEdge?

[Holipac]

Rod,
Just did this conversion recently.
All your data is retained.  The file format is readable by Mac and  
PC, so I just send off my data file to my accountant, and they load  
it up under Windows.
When I switched to Account Edge, I just opened up the existing  
file ... there was some kind of automated upgrade that took place,  
but after that the file is still readable on Mac and Windows.


Customised forms didn't make the conversion - so invoices that were  
setup as form layouts had to be rebuilt.  Perhaps an expert could  
have migrated these.
The functionality is basically the same - book-keepers who haven't  
used Account Edge before just sit down and use it.


Regards,

Glenn.

On 24/11/2006, at 2:19 PM, Rod wrote:


Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our PCs  
at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file  
into AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose in  
the process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!

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MYOB Premier to AccountEdge?

[Rod]

Hi All!

Big question here, as I have to opportunity to swap out all our PCs  
at work to Macs :-)


We currently run Premier MYOB on the PC.  Can I import the file into  
AccountEdge on the Mac?  Are there a lot of things we lose in the  
process?  Are Premier and AccountEdge quite close in features?


MYOB themselves don't seem to be a lot of help at the moment :-(

Seeya

Rod!