Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Hi WAMUG and GMUG I finished Backing up all my files last Thursday so far everything looks to be okay with the own losing 3 GB of data to file corruption. So after trying to repair the hard drive in disk utility end running the Apple hardware test Got the error 4HDD/11/4004: SATA (0,0) So it's now back in its box on its way to Perth for repairs. Hopefully it's only the hard drive that needs replacement. Bob Thank you For all your help with this problem Would also like to thank Andrew Beard and Phil Pound for their help to Regards Kyle --- Kyle Kreusch (Webmaster) This e-mail was Dictated Using Dragon NaturallySpeaking 9 (GMUG) Geraldton Macintosh User Group Website: http://www.gmug.org.au/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- The Geraldton Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Website: http://www.gmug.org.au Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ iCal Subscription: http://www.icalx.com/html/gmug/month.php?cal=GMUG -- (GMUG) is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards Kyle Kyle Kreusch (Webmaster) This e-mail was Dictated Using Dragon NaturallySpeaking 9 (GMUG) Geraldton Macintosh User Group Website: http://www.gmug.org.au/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Hi Bob What is the best Data recovery software on the Mac? Data rescue || gets good reports. Year a good couple people have recommended to me I just thought I'd ask there's anything better out there go here for a good price http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Prosoft%20Engineering/25100/ I'm pretty sure I got it cheaper than that through their MUG program (More information on this for GMUG members at our next meeting) Which is happy as he will not lose 420GB Of Data Careful : You don't know what corruption might be in there ! ? Year probably spoke little too soon on that one Do you have any clue what may have caused this problem ? Yes 24-hour Torrenting Once a month with the computer overheating last month Could be dicky hard drive or power supply OR Power OFF while in the middle of a process When I noticed it was reading very slow from the hard drive making Everything very slow then I realised it was overheating and shut down The computer properly than when I tried to start up after everything cool down nothing So as I did not have enough free hard drive space on my current external hard drives I had to order some more extra external hard drives in As well as some Apple care as I realised I only had two weeks Left on my warranty Say it's been a very long and annoying process taking about among them three weeks Unless you can explain it do NOT trust anything on that Mac until you can build a history of trouble free ops. I will most likely get it looked over by a Apple service technician after I have recovered my data Which was the plan all along as I really did think the hard drive had completely failed not to mention overheating issue which seems to be not present any more Regards Kyle Kyle Kreusch (Webmaster) This e-mail was Dictated Using Dragon NaturallySpeaking 9 (GMUG) Geraldton Macintosh User Group Website: http://www.gmug.org.au/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Surprisingly it only take 25 minutes Not So good News DiskWarrior has successfully built a new directory for the disk named Macintosh HD. The new directory cannot replace the original directory because of a disk malfunction. It is highly recommended that you backup all of your data from the preview disk. So I already lost 10 GB of data according to Disk Warrior Preview disk Mode. So I had begun the backup process in Disk Warrior Preview disk Mode What is the best Data recovery software on the Mac? Regards, Kyle Which is happy as he will not lose 420GB Of Data On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at your Tiger report I would think Disk Warrior should get you there but be prepared for a possible long...ggg session . Possibly could even be overnight , depends on how corrupted disk warrior finds it Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
On 15/08/2008, at 12:01 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Surprisingly it only take 25 minutes Not So good News DiskWarrior has successfully built a new directory for the disk named Macintosh HD. The new directory cannot replace the original directory because of a disk malfunction. It is highly recommended that you backup all of your data from the preview disk. So I already lost 10 GB of data according to Disk Warrior Preview disk Mode. So I had begun the backup process in Disk Warrior Preview disk Mode What is the best Data recovery software on the Mac? Data rescue || gets good reports go here for a good price http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Prosoft%20Engineering/25100/ Regards, Kyle Which is happy as he will not lose 420GB Of Data Careful : You don't know what corruption might be in there ! ? Do you have any clue what may have caused this problem ? Unless you can explain it do NOT trust anything on that Mac until you can build a history of trouble free ops . Could be dicky hard drive or power supplyOR Power OFF while in the middle of a process Bob On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at your Tiger report I would think Disk Warrior should get you there but be prepared for a possible long...ggg session . Possibly could even be overnight , depends on how corrupted disk warrior finds it Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
So Kyle have you had any success ? Bob On 11/08/2008, at 8:17 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Bob Murphy' strikes again ! Yes I don't know your procedures my first Golden rule with external firewire ... never connect firewire on an external device while it is powered up . ( I always use externalf powered firewire units ) According to the documentation that came with the WD MyBook 2 start the external hard drive up first then plugged the FireWire in You may have blocked out your firewire ports . Shut down ! Disconnect all except your keyboard and mouse . Leave power off for 15 minutes from the wall Start up and see wnat Apple System profiler tells you . If no joy ... read below Bob That was the first thing I tryed When that failed i Reset the PRAM Easy thing to do just annoying that it's got to happen what I am trying to do something important Bob Thank you for all your help Hopefully I can come to some solution tomorrow Regards Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Hi Bob Have not attempted anything yet. But have set up a external hard drive running Tiger 10.4.11. Waiting on a friend To bring around his copy of DiskWarrior and Data Rescue II. He says his copy of DiskWarrior is 4.1 Which apparently works fine with Leopard Is it find to use this version on a Tiger install? I'm guessing Yes And what's going to do a better job at repairing my problem Disk Utility or DiskWarrior? Hopefully should be able to Repair it sometime Tomorrow. So what's another day it's already being one month in three weeks :) Kyle On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Kyle have you had any success ? Bob On 11/08/2008, at 8:17 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Bob Murphy' strikes again ! Yes I don't know your procedures my first Golden rule with external firewire ... never connect firewire on an external device while it is powered up . ( I always use externalf powered firewire units ) According to the documentation that came with the WD MyBook 2 start the external hard drive up first then plugged the FireWire in You may have blocked out your firewire ports . Shut down ! Disconnect all except your keyboard and mouse . Leave power off for 15 minutes from the wall Start up and see wnat Apple System profiler tells you . If no joy ... read below Bob That was the first thing I tryed When that failed i Reset the PRAM Easy thing to do just annoying that it's got to happen what I am trying to do something important Bob Thank you for all your help Hopefully I can come to some solution tomorrow Regards Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
On 13/08/2008, at 6:29 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Bob Have not attempted anything yet. But have set up a external hard drive running Tiger 10.4.11. Waiting on a friend To bring around his copy of DiskWarrior and Data Rescue II. He says his copy of DiskWarrior is 4.1 Which apparently works fine with Leopard Is it find to use this version on a Tiger install? I'm guessing Yes And what's going to do a better job at repairing my problem Disk Utility or DiskWarrior? Depends on the problem ! I would start with Disk warrior since it only sets up a new index , AND gives you the opportunity to look at the new and compare against the old BEFORE you commit to the change . YES ... version 4.1 will be ok ... I have sent you a copy of it's readme by direct email . If Disk Warrior will not give you what you need then try Disk UtilityBUT ... it would be good to save all the data FIRST . and then Depending on the problem , you may need to do a reformat and reinstal followed by a copy back your extras Cheers Bob Hopefully should be able to Repair it sometime Tomorrow. So what's another day it's already being one month in three weeks :) Kyle On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Kyle have you had any success ? Bob On 11/08/2008, at 8:17 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Bob Murphy' strikes again ! Yes I don't know your procedures my first Golden rule with external firewire ... never connect firewire on an external device while it is powered up . ( I always use externalf powered firewire units ) According to the documentation that came with the WD MyBook 2 start the external hard drive up first then plugged the FireWire in You may have blocked out your firewire ports . Shut down ! Disconnect all except your keyboard and mouse . Leave power off for 15 minutes from the wall Start up and see wnat Apple System profiler tells you . If no joy ... read below Bob That was the first thing I tryed When that failed i Reset the PRAM Easy thing to do just annoying that it's got to happen what I am trying to do something important Bob Thank you for all your help Hopefully I can come to some solution tomorrow Regards Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Hi Bob Depends on the problem ! Well what Leopard fought was the problem is in my previous E-mail Tiger seems to think Verifying volume Macintosh HD Invalid Volume Header Checking HFS Plus volume. Checking Extents Overflow file. Checking Catalog file. Checking multi-linked files. Checking Catalog hierarchy. Checking Extended Attributes file. Checking volume bitmap. Checking volume information. The volume Macintosh HD needs to be repaired. Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit 1 HFS volume checked Volume needs repair I would start with Disk warrior since it only sets up a new index , gives you the opportunity to look at the new and compare against the old BEFORE you commit to the change . Disk Warrior is doing its thing right now looks like it's going to take a while YES ... version 4.1 will be ok ... I have sent you a copy of it's readme by direct email . Thanks, Gave a look over yesterday If Disk Warrior will not give you what you need then try Disk UtilityBUT ... it would be good to save all the data FIRST and then Depending on the problem , you may need to do a reformat and reinstal followed by a copy back your extras Disk Warrior does not work I will just Recover all that data using Data Rescue II As when this happen I was planning on doing a freshened Install of Leopard In a couple of months Any way Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
On 14/08/2008, at 1:21 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Bob Depends on the problem ! Well what Leopard fought was the problem is in my previous E-mail Tiger seems to think Verifying volume Macintosh HD Invalid Volume Header Checking HFS Plus volume. Checking Extents Overflow file. Checking Catalog file. Checking multi-linked files. Checking Catalog hierarchy. Checking Extended Attributes file. Checking volume bitmap. Checking volume information. The volume Macintosh HD needs to be repaired. Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit 1 HFS volume checked Volume needs repair I would start with Disk warrior since it only sets up a new index , gives you the opportunity to look at the new and compare against the old BEFORE you commit to the change . Disk Warrior is doing its thing right now looks like it's going to take a while Looking at your Tiger report I would think Disk Warrior should get you there but be prepared for a possible long...ggg session . Possibly could even be overnight , depends on how corrupted disk warrior finds it Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
On 11/08/2008, at 2:10 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi all GMUG and WAMUG Just wondering if it is possible to Repairer Corrupted Mac X 10.4.11 Install With a version of Disk Utility from 10.5.4 I have tried the version of Disk Utility off the install DVD But it is unable to find any internal hard drive and Just crashes The one in 10.5.4 Finds the following errors: Verifying volume Macintosh HD Invalid content in Journal Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume. Checking Extents Overflow file. Checking Catalog file. Checking multi-linked files. Incorrect number of file hard links Checking Catalog hierarchy. Checking Extended Attributes file. Checking volume bitmap. Checking volume information. Volume Header needs minor repair The volume Macintosh HD needs to be repaired. Error: Filesystem verify or repair failed. So should I Repair it using the Disk Utility from 10.5.4 Kyle I would NOT do that . You are dealing with the structure of the operating system . A good rule of thumb is to use the same flavour of Disk Utility . Do you not have the Tiger Installer disk .Tiger disk utilities is on that . Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Hi Bob I would NOT do that . You are dealing with the structure of the operating system . A good rule of thumb is to use the same flavour of Disk Utility . Exactly what I thought Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
SORRY I missed that bit. That is okay How is it you are using Leopard disk utility ... Have you connected by Target Disk mode. I have a working iMac running Leopard in Target Disk Mode. I have Started the broken iMac up from it Using the option key. For some reason it will not recognize the hard drive if I go the other way Will your Tiger installer DVD utility run on Leopard .. I have never tried that . Also have tried this as when booting from the installer DVD it Crashes. It also crashes when running under leopard Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Hi Bob I have a working iMac running Leopard in Target Disk Mode. Confirm you are running Leopard on your working iMac Definitely confirmed then start up faulty iMac by holding down the T key on it ! ? Having done this as I mentioned in my previous E-mail if I go this way than Leopard can not see the hard drive at all What model is the working iMac ? They both are the current design that is on the Apple website previously before the speed bump Was it made after Leopard was produced ? Yes I am guessing you started broken iMac from Tiger DVD by using Option key, which IS the way to go Yes these are the original install disks (Tiger) Tried both the option key end the c key The disk utility application still crashes way searching for the internal hard drive. Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
On 11/08/2008, at 3:03 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Bob They both are the current design that is on the Apple website previously before the speed bump Was it made after Leopard was produced ? Yes Mid 2007 came with 10.4.10 , but may also have come with Leopard . So do you have a firewire external drive ? Can you get a Tiger instal on to that ? Alternately you need a Version 4 Disk Warrior ... runs only on Tiger ( do not try to use that version on leopard ) ? got a friend with a copy ? And just one last suggestion ... did you try zapping the Pram on the broken mac ( Apple+option+p+r ) immediately after pressing power button Bob I am guessing you started broken iMac from Tiger DVD by using Option key, which IS the way to go Yes these are the original install disks (Tiger) Tried both the option key end the c key The disk utility application still crashes way searching for the internal hard drive. Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repairing corrupted Volume with Disk Utility
Hi all Now to add insult to injury My new external hard drives that have been working perfectly fine for a week now will not Start Up FireWire 800 or 400 Kyle -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
