Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-23 Thread mince and pud


Ronni

You've done it again - correct in every particular, dragging the  
rolls over works like a charm


many many thanks
alastair



On 23 Sep 2009, at 05:49, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Hmm  Ok ...
1. The New iPhoto Library you have created is working correctly?
2. But, you now need to get your Original Photos from the Back  
Up Library?


If this is correct.
3. Go into the Back Up  iPhoto Library and find the Originals  
Folder.
From the Originals folder drag the individual Roll Folders to the  
NEW iPhoto Window and it will create them in the new Library.


4. Quit iPhoto
5. Relaunch iPhoto and let us know if everything is OK.

If you had made changes to photos in the old backup Library, you  
might then be able to bring the Modified folder across.


Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning  
correctly delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the  
New iPhoto Library.

But, don't delete it until you are sure.
--

Don't change anything in the iPhoto Library Folder via the Finder  
or any other application. iPhoto depends on the structure as well  
as the contents of this folder. Moving things, renaming things or  
otherwise making changes will prevent iPhoto from working and could  
even cause you to damage or lose your photos.


Put it this way. Go to your Pictures Folder. If it's in the iPhoto  
Library Folder leave it alone.

--

Cheers,
Ronni


On 23/09/2009, at 11:40 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi Ronni

Hm the iphoto outlook is about as sunny as the weather in the  
hills this morning. I have at least learned a few things...


I deleted the preference file which gave me a brand new library.  
Imported some pics and watched a finder window while it did its  
stuff - sure enough a folder called 2001 is created within Imports  
and all the files go into it. But when it has finished, Imports  
folder disappears and the images move to Data  2009  Roll 1  
which is as it should be. This is the bit my library has forgotten  
how to do.


Unfortunately when I pointed iphoto at the backup library it has  
the same problem. I had imported these last few rolls without  
opening any images and as the thumbnails were fine - at first -  
didn't know anything was amiss until the thumbs subsequently  
vanished.


2 different cameras used so it's not the memory card

I have not been rummaging around in the library. I know that There  
be Dragons...



So I suppose the question is - is there a painless way of dragging  
the pictures in the old, corrupt library into the shiny new,  
working one, bearing in mind the dangers of rummaging?


Your thoughts welcome
best
alastair




On 22 Sep 2009, at 14:10, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Rebuilding the iPhoto Database didn't work. It's looking like the  
library database, Library6.iPhoto could be corrupted, or a file is.


Have you tried deleting the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file,or  
moving it to your desktop ?
Quit iPhoto before you do, then locate it in Home  Library   
Preferences - com.apple.iPhoto.plist  drag it to your desktop or  
trash (but don't empty the trash yet).

Then restart your computer
Then relaunch iPhoto

1. The backup iPhoto Library you say you have, was that working  
correctly? You might have to revert back to this backup.
2. Is it only since you have tried to import these new rolls into  
iPhoto that things have gone wrong?

3. Are you importing from the same camera?
4. You haven't touched anything in the iPhoto Library folder in  
Finder have you?


I'm thinking you might have to go back to your iPhoto Library  
backup, if it was working without any problems.


iPhoto 6 I remember was a flaky version of iPhoto, it has  
improved with each version since.


Cheers,
Ronni


On 22/09/2009, at 6:57 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi again Ronni

Thanks for suggestion - but after another rebuild all is as  
before except that I now have FOUR identical copies of my last  
roll, all of which produce the file when clicked.


(pause)

I imported another, different roll, to see if the import system  
was working now. It imported fine and all worked, but the files  
were in a new subfolder of Imports.


Quit and relaunch - again asked to import unimported photos (I  
said yes but then don't import duplicates) -  the newest roll is  
still there but no files linked to thumbs. Of the four identical  
rolls, one is now blank, one is blank except for two thumbs  
(huh?) and two are still complete, but no longer linked to  
anything.


Weirder and weirder

many thanks
alastair


On 22 Sep 2009, at 06:28, Ronda Brown wrote:



When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' Recover  
orphaned photos in the iPhoto Library folder.

In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these  
photos as they are disconnected photos.
IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know  
yet.


Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one 

Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-23 Thread Ronda Brown


You're welcome Alastair,

Good to hear you have iPhoto working correctly again.

Did you do the rest of my suggestion?

Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning  
correctly delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the  
New iPhoto Library.

But, don't delete it until you are sure.


Check in your Home  Pictures - that there is only ONE iPhoto Library  
and that it is the NEW correctly functioning iPhoto Library.


If it is: Delete the backup of iPhoto Library that is on your External  
backup Drive (remember to empty the trash before disconnecting the  
drive so it is properly deleted from the drive).
Then connect the drive again to your computer and backup the complete  
iPhoto Library Folder in your Home  Pictures to your external Backup  
Drive.


Remember: You are only as good as your last backup!
Regular backups are a MUST 

I will post to WAMUG list ... when I find a little time ;-) My Backup  
Strategy which involves having daily Archive  weekly Bootable  
backups.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



On 24/09/2009, at 12:38 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Ronni

You've done it again - correct in every particular, dragging the  
rolls over works like a charm


many many thanks
alastair



On 23 Sep 2009, at 05:49, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Hmm  Ok ...
1. The New iPhoto Library you have created is working correctly?
2. But, you now need to get your Original Photos from the Back  
Up Library?


If this is correct.
3. Go into the Back Up  iPhoto Library and find the Originals  
Folder.
From the Originals folder drag the individual Roll Folders to the  
NEW iPhoto Window and it will create them in the new Library.


4. Quit iPhoto
5. Relaunch iPhoto and let us know if everything is OK.

If you had made changes to photos in the old backup Library, you  
might then be able to bring the Modified folder across.


Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning  
correctly delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the  
New iPhoto Library.

But, don't delete it until you are sure.
--

Don't change anything in the iPhoto Library Folder via the Finder  
or any other application. iPhoto depends on the structure as well  
as the contents of this folder. Moving things, renaming things or  
otherwise making changes will prevent iPhoto from working and could  
even cause you to damage or lose your photos.


Put it this way. Go to your Pictures Folder. If it's in the iPhoto  
Library Folder leave it alone.

--

Cheers,
Ronni


On 23/09/2009, at 11:40 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi Ronni

Hm the iphoto outlook is about as sunny as the weather in the  
hills this morning. I have at least learned a few things...


I deleted the preference file which gave me a brand new library.  
Imported some pics and watched a finder window while it did its  
stuff - sure enough a folder called 2001 is created within Imports  
and all the files go into it. But when it has finished, Imports  
folder disappears and the images move to Data  2009  Roll 1  
which is as it should be. This is the bit my library has forgotten  
how to do.


Unfortunately when I pointed iphoto at the backup library it has  
the same problem. I had imported these last few rolls without  
opening any images and as the thumbnails were fine - at first -  
didn't know anything was amiss until the thumbs subsequently  
vanished.


2 different cameras used so it's not the memory card

I have not been rummaging around in the library. I know that There  
be Dragons...



So I suppose the question is - is there a painless way of dragging  
the pictures in the old, corrupt library into the shiny new,  
working one, bearing in mind the dangers of rummaging?


Your thoughts welcome
best
alastair




On 22 Sep 2009, at 14:10, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Rebuilding the iPhoto Database didn't work. It's looking like the  
library database, Library6.iPhoto could be corrupted, or a file is.


Have you tried deleting the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file,or  
moving it to your desktop ?
Quit iPhoto before you do, then locate it in Home  Library   
Preferences - com.apple.iPhoto.plist  drag it to your desktop or  
trash (but don't empty the trash yet).

Then restart your computer
Then relaunch iPhoto

1. The backup iPhoto Library you say you have, was that working  
correctly? You might have to revert back to this backup.
2. Is it only since you have tried to import these new rolls into  
iPhoto that things have gone wrong?

3. Are you importing from the same camera?
4. You haven't touched anything in the iPhoto Library folder in  
Finder have you?


I'm thinking you might have to go back to your iPhoto Library  
backup, if it was working without any problems.


iPhoto 6 I remember was a flaky version of iPhoto, it has  
improved with each version since.


Cheers,
Ronni


On 22/09/2009, at 6:57 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi again 

Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-23 Thread mince and pud


Hi Ronni

Haven't actually deleted the old one yet until I have time to check  
thoroughly - but new library is working just fine.


It's actually on a firewire drive (not the same one as the backup) so  
not in home  pictures. This has been the case for ages without a  
hitch so I'm thinking this wasn't a cause of the problems. Or was it??


thanks again
alastair



On 24 Sep 2009, at 01:02, Ronda Brown wrote:



You're welcome Alastair,

Good to hear you have iPhoto working correctly again.

Did you do the rest of my suggestion?

Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning  
correctly delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the  
New iPhoto Library.

But, don't delete it until you are sure.


Check in your Home  Pictures - that there is only ONE iPhoto  
Library and that it is the NEW correctly functioning iPhoto Library.


If it is: Delete the backup of iPhoto Library that is on your  
External backup Drive (remember to empty the trash before  
disconnecting the drive so it is properly deleted from the drive).
Then connect the drive again to your computer and backup the  
complete iPhoto Library Folder in your Home  Pictures to your  
external Backup Drive.


Remember: You are only as good as your last backup!
Regular backups are a MUST 

I will post to WAMUG list ... when I find a little time ;-) My  
Backup Strategy which involves having daily Archive  weekly  
Bootable backups.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



On 24/09/2009, at 12:38 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Ronni

You've done it again - correct in every particular, dragging the  
rolls over works like a charm


many many thanks
alastair



On 23 Sep 2009, at 05:49, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Hmm  Ok ...
1. The New iPhoto Library you have created is working correctly?
2. But, you now need to get your Original Photos from the Back  
Up Library?


If this is correct.
3. Go into the Back Up  iPhoto Library and find the Originals  
Folder.
From the Originals folder drag the individual Roll Folders to the  
NEW iPhoto Window and it will create them in the new Library.


4. Quit iPhoto
5. Relaunch iPhoto and let us know if everything is OK.

If you had made changes to photos in the old backup Library,  
you might then be able to bring the Modified folder across.


Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning  
correctly delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the  
New iPhoto Library.

But, don't delete it until you are sure.
--

Don't change anything in the iPhoto Library Folder via the Finder  
or any other application. iPhoto depends on the structure as well  
as the contents of this folder. Moving things, renaming things or  
otherwise making changes will prevent iPhoto from working and  
could even cause you to damage or lose your photos.


Put it this way. Go to your Pictures Folder. If it's in the  
iPhoto Library Folder leave it alone.

--

Cheers,
Ronni


On 23/09/2009, at 11:40 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi Ronni

Hm the iphoto outlook is about as sunny as the weather in the  
hills this morning. I have at least learned a few things...


I deleted the preference file which gave me a brand new library.  
Imported some pics and watched a finder window while it did its  
stuff - sure enough a folder called 2001 is created within  
Imports and all the files go into it. But when it has finished,  
Imports folder disappears and the images move to Data  2009   
Roll 1 which is as it should be. This is the bit my library has  
forgotten how to do.


Unfortunately when I pointed iphoto at the backup library it has  
the same problem. I had imported these last few rolls without  
opening any images and as the thumbnails were fine - at first -  
didn't know anything was amiss until the thumbs subsequently  
vanished.


2 different cameras used so it's not the memory card

I have not been rummaging around in the library. I know that  
There be Dragons...



So I suppose the question is - is there a painless way of  
dragging the pictures in the old, corrupt library into the shiny  
new, working one, bearing in mind the dangers of rummaging?


Your thoughts welcome
best
alastair




On 22 Sep 2009, at 14:10, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Rebuilding the iPhoto Database didn't work. It's looking like  
the library database, Library6.iPhoto could be corrupted, or a  
file is.


Have you tried deleting the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file,or  
moving it to your desktop ?
Quit iPhoto before you do, then locate it in Home  Library   
Preferences - com.apple.iPhoto.plist  drag it to your desktop  
or trash (but don't empty the trash yet).

Then restart your computer
Then relaunch iPhoto

1. The backup iPhoto Library you say you have, was that working  
correctly? You might have to revert back to this backup.
2. Is it only since you have tried to import these new rolls  
into iPhoto that things have gone 

Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-22 Thread mince and pud


Hi Ronni

No I had ticked 3 of the 4 available (iPhoto 6, os10.4.11) on some  
googled advice, so orphans not included. Trying again now, then going  
out, so will report back later.


I meant I had searched the whole disc from the finder for the photos'  
file numbers, without success.


I have a backup of all but my last few missing rolls - but there's  
nothing vital on those so no dramas there


many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 06:28, Ronda Brown wrote:



When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' Recover  
orphaned photos in the iPhoto Library folder.

In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these  
photos as they are disconnected photos.

IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know yet.

Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one before you do anymore messing around ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/09/2009, at 12:29 PM, mince and pud wrote:



yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:



Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences  Advanced  -  
Importing: Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to  
library, and Add ColorSync profile. Are they both ticked?


On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a  
rebuild - it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I  
said, searching for the files by name brings up nothing so I  
suspect they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a  
bit tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr  
Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one. Searching  
for them by file number (the thumbnails still have their  
numbers) fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between  
the thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or  
alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to  
rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in  
fine, but it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just  
in the Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit  
iphoto and re-launch, it says there are photos in the library  
that haven't been imported, would I like to import them? If I  
say yes, it then asks what to do with all the duplicates, as  
if they are in there already! If I say import them again, I  
get a set of working thumbnails, but if I click them I just  
get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets  
of thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files  
when clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




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Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-22 Thread mince and pud


Hi again Ronni

Thanks for suggestion - but after another rebuild all is as before  
except that I now have FOUR identical copies of my last roll, all of  
which produce the file when clicked.


(pause)

I imported another, different roll, to see if the import system was  
working now. It imported fine and all worked, but the files were in a  
new subfolder of Imports.


Quit and relaunch - again asked to import unimported photos (I said  
yes but then don't import duplicates) -  the newest roll is still  
there but no files linked to thumbs. Of the four identical rolls, one  
is now blank, one is blank except for two thumbs (huh?) and two are  
still complete, but no longer linked to anything.


Weirder and weirder

many thanks
alastair


On 22 Sep 2009, at 06:28, Ronda Brown wrote:



When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' Recover  
orphaned photos in the iPhoto Library folder.

In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these  
photos as they are disconnected photos.

IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know yet.

Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one before you do anymore messing around ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/09/2009, at 12:29 PM, mince and pud wrote:



yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:



Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences  Advanced  -  
Importing: Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to  
library, and Add ColorSync profile. Are they both ticked?


On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a  
rebuild - it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I  
said, searching for the files by name brings up nothing so I  
suspect they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a  
bit tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr  
Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one. Searching  
for them by file number (the thumbnails still have their  
numbers) fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between  
the thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or  
alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to  
rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in  
fine, but it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just  
in the Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit  
iphoto and re-launch, it says there are photos in the library  
that haven't been imported, would I like to import them? If I  
say yes, it then asks what to do with all the duplicates, as  
if they are in there already! If I say import them again, I  
get a set of working thumbnails, but if I click them I just  
get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets  
of thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files  
when clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




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Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-22 Thread mince and pud


Ronni

Many thanks for your help and at such a late hour - I will pursue  
your suggestions tomorrow



On 22 Sep 2009, at 14:10, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Rebuilding the iPhoto Database didn't work. It's looking like the  
library database, Library6.iPhoto could be corrupted, or a file is.


Have you tried deleting the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file,or moving  
it to your desktop ?
Quit iPhoto before you do, then locate it in Home  Library   
Preferences - com.apple.iPhoto.plist  drag it to your desktop or  
trash (but don't empty the trash yet).

Then restart your computer
Then relaunch iPhoto

1. The backup iPhoto Library you say you have, was that working  
correctly? You might have to revert back to this backup.
2. Is it only since you have tried to import these new rolls into  
iPhoto that things have gone wrong?

3. Are you importing from the same camera?
4. You haven't touched anything in the iPhoto Library folder in  
Finder have you?


I'm thinking you might have to go back to your iPhoto Library  
backup, if it was working without any problems.


iPhoto 6 I remember was a flaky version of iPhoto, it has improved  
with each version since.


Cheers,
Ronni


On 22/09/2009, at 6:57 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi again Ronni

Thanks for suggestion - but after another rebuild all is as before  
except that I now have FOUR identical copies of my last roll, all  
of which produce the file when clicked.


(pause)

I imported another, different roll, to see if the import system  
was working now. It imported fine and all worked, but the files  
were in a new subfolder of Imports.


Quit and relaunch - again asked to import unimported photos (I  
said yes but then don't import duplicates) -  the newest roll is  
still there but no files linked to thumbs. Of the four identical  
rolls, one is now blank, one is blank except for two thumbs (huh?)  
and two are still complete, but no longer linked to anything.


Weirder and weirder

many thanks
alastair


On 22 Sep 2009, at 06:28, Ronda Brown wrote:



When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' Recover  
orphaned photos in the iPhoto Library folder.

In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these  
photos as they are disconnected photos.

IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know yet.

Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one before you do anymore messing around ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/09/2009, at 12:29 PM, mince and pud wrote:



yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:



Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences  Advanced  -  
Importing: Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to  
library, and Add ColorSync profile. Are they both ticked?


On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a  
rebuild - it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I  
said, searching for the files by name brings up nothing so I  
suspect they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's  
a bit tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with  
mr Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one.  
Searching for them by file number (the thumbnails still have  
their numbers) fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between  
the thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option  
(or alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue  
to rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in  
fine, but it hasn't been stored properly in the library,  
just in the Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If  
I quit iphoto and re-launch, it says there are photos in the  
library that haven't been imported, would I like to import  
them? If I say yes, it then asks what to do with all the  
duplicates, as if they are in there already! If I say import  
them again, I get a set of working thumbnails, but if I  
click them I just get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets  
of thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files  
when clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get  
on.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




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Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-22 Thread mince and pud


Hi Ronni

Hm the iphoto outlook is about as sunny as the weather in the hills  
this morning. I have at least learned a few things...


I deleted the preference file which gave me a brand new library.  
Imported some pics and watched a finder window while it did its stuff  
- sure enough a folder called 2001 is created within Imports and all  
the files go into it. But when it has finished, Imports folder  
disappears and the images move to Data  2009  Roll 1 which is as it  
should be. This is the bit my library has forgotten how to do.


Unfortunately when I pointed iphoto at the backup library it has the  
same problem. I had imported these last few rolls without opening any  
images and as the thumbnails were fine - at first - didn't know  
anything was amiss until the thumbs subsequently vanished.


2 different cameras used so it's not the memory card

I have not been rummaging around in the library. I know that There be  
Dragons...



So I suppose the question is - is there a painless way of dragging  
the pictures in the old, corrupt library into the shiny new, working  
one, bearing in mind the dangers of rummaging?


Your thoughts welcome
best
alastair




On 22 Sep 2009, at 14:10, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Rebuilding the iPhoto Database didn't work. It's looking like the  
library database, Library6.iPhoto could be corrupted, or a file is.


Have you tried deleting the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file,or moving  
it to your desktop ?
Quit iPhoto before you do, then locate it in Home  Library   
Preferences - com.apple.iPhoto.plist  drag it to your desktop or  
trash (but don't empty the trash yet).

Then restart your computer
Then relaunch iPhoto

1. The backup iPhoto Library you say you have, was that working  
correctly? You might have to revert back to this backup.
2. Is it only since you have tried to import these new rolls into  
iPhoto that things have gone wrong?

3. Are you importing from the same camera?
4. You haven't touched anything in the iPhoto Library folder in  
Finder have you?


I'm thinking you might have to go back to your iPhoto Library  
backup, if it was working without any problems.


iPhoto 6 I remember was a flaky version of iPhoto, it has improved  
with each version since.


Cheers,
Ronni


On 22/09/2009, at 6:57 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi again Ronni

Thanks for suggestion - but after another rebuild all is as before  
except that I now have FOUR identical copies of my last roll, all  
of which produce the file when clicked.


(pause)

I imported another, different roll, to see if the import system  
was working now. It imported fine and all worked, but the files  
were in a new subfolder of Imports.


Quit and relaunch - again asked to import unimported photos (I  
said yes but then don't import duplicates) -  the newest roll is  
still there but no files linked to thumbs. Of the four identical  
rolls, one is now blank, one is blank except for two thumbs (huh?)  
and two are still complete, but no longer linked to anything.


Weirder and weirder

many thanks
alastair


On 22 Sep 2009, at 06:28, Ronda Brown wrote:



When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' Recover  
orphaned photos in the iPhoto Library folder.

In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these  
photos as they are disconnected photos.

IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know yet.

Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one before you do anymore messing around ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/09/2009, at 12:29 PM, mince and pud wrote:



yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:



Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences  Advanced  -  
Importing: Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to  
library, and Add ColorSync profile. Are they both ticked?


On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a  
rebuild - it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I  
said, searching for the files by name brings up nothing so I  
suspect they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's  
a bit tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with  
mr Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one.  
Searching for them by file number (the thumbnails still have  
their numbers) fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between  
the thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option  
(or alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue  
to rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in  
fine, 

Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-22 Thread Ronda Brown


Hi Alastair,

Hmm  Ok ...
1. The New iPhoto Library you have created is working correctly?
2. But, you now need to get your Original Photos from the Back Up  
Library?


If this is correct.
3. Go into the Back Up  iPhoto Library and find the Originals  
Folder.
From the Originals folder drag the individual Roll Folders to the NEW  
iPhoto Window and it will create them in the new Library.


4. Quit iPhoto
5. Relaunch iPhoto and let us know if everything is OK.

If you had made changes to photos in the old backup Library, you  
might then be able to bring the Modified folder across.


Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning correctly  
delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the New iPhoto  
Library.

But, don't delete it until you are sure.
--

Don't change anything in the iPhoto Library Folder via the Finder or  
any other application. iPhoto depends on the structure as well as the  
contents of this folder. Moving things, renaming things or otherwise  
making changes will prevent iPhoto from working and could even cause  
you to damage or lose your photos.


Put it this way. Go to your Pictures Folder. If it's in the iPhoto  
Library Folder leave it alone.

--

Cheers,
Ronni


On 23/09/2009, at 11:40 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi Ronni

Hm the iphoto outlook is about as sunny as the weather in the hills  
this morning. I have at least learned a few things...


I deleted the preference file which gave me a brand new library.  
Imported some pics and watched a finder window while it did its  
stuff - sure enough a folder called 2001 is created within Imports  
and all the files go into it. But when it has finished, Imports  
folder disappears and the images move to Data  2009  Roll 1 which  
is as it should be. This is the bit my library has forgotten how to  
do.


Unfortunately when I pointed iphoto at the backup library it has the  
same problem. I had imported these last few rolls without opening  
any images and as the thumbnails were fine - at first - didn't know  
anything was amiss until the thumbs subsequently vanished.


2 different cameras used so it's not the memory card

I have not been rummaging around in the library. I know that There  
be Dragons...



So I suppose the question is - is there a painless way of dragging  
the pictures in the old, corrupt library into the shiny new, working  
one, bearing in mind the dangers of rummaging?


Your thoughts welcome
best
alastair




On 22 Sep 2009, at 14:10, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

Rebuilding the iPhoto Database didn't work. It's looking like the  
library database, Library6.iPhoto could be corrupted, or a file is.


Have you tried deleting the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file,or moving  
it to your desktop ?
Quit iPhoto before you do, then locate it in Home  Library   
Preferences - com.apple.iPhoto.plist  drag it to your desktop or  
trash (but don't empty the trash yet).

Then restart your computer
Then relaunch iPhoto

1. The backup iPhoto Library you say you have, was that working  
correctly? You might have to revert back to this backup.
2. Is it only since you have tried to import these new rolls into  
iPhoto that things have gone wrong?

3. Are you importing from the same camera?
4. You haven't touched anything in the iPhoto Library folder in  
Finder have you?


I'm thinking you might have to go back to your iPhoto Library  
backup, if it was working without any problems.


iPhoto 6 I remember was a flaky version of iPhoto, it has improved  
with each version since.


Cheers,
Ronni


On 22/09/2009, at 6:57 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi again Ronni

Thanks for suggestion - but after another rebuild all is as before  
except that I now have FOUR identical copies of my last roll, all  
of which produce the file when clicked.


(pause)

I imported another, different roll, to see if the import system  
was working now. It imported fine and all worked, but the files  
were in a new subfolder of Imports.


Quit and relaunch - again asked to import unimported photos (I  
said yes but then don't import duplicates) -  the newest roll is  
still there but no files linked to thumbs. Of the four identical  
rolls, one is now blank, one is blank except for two thumbs (huh?)  
and two are still complete, but no longer linked to anything.


Weirder and weirder

many thanks
alastair


On 22 Sep 2009, at 06:28, Ronda Brown wrote:



When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' Recover  
orphaned photos in the iPhoto Library folder.

In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these  
photos as they are disconnected photos.
IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know  
yet.


Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one before you do anymore messing around ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/09/2009, at 12:29 PM, mince and pud wrote:



yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:



Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-21 Thread Ronda Brown


On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a bit  
tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one. Searching for  
them by file number (the thumbnails still have their numbers) fails  
to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between the  
thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or alt)  
keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in fine, but  
it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just in the Imports  
folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit iphoto and re- 
launch, it says there are photos in the library that haven't been  
imported, would I like to import them? If I say yes, it then asks  
what to do with all the duplicates, as if they are in there already!  
If I say import them again, I get a set of working thumbnails, but  
if I click them I just get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets of  
thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files when  
clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-21 Thread mince and pud


Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a rebuild -  
it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I said, searching for  
the files by name brings up nothing so I suspect they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a bit  
tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one. Searching for  
them by file number (the thumbnails still have their numbers)  
fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between the  
thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or  
alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in fine,  
but it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just in the  
Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit iphoto and  
re-launch, it says there are photos in the library that haven't  
been imported, would I like to import them? If I say yes, it then  
asks what to do with all the duplicates, as if they are in there  
already! If I say import them again, I get a set of working  
thumbnails, but if I click them I just get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets of  
thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files when  
clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-21 Thread Ronda Brown


Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences  Advanced  - Importing:  
Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to library, and Add  
ColorSync profile. Are they both ticked?


On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a rebuild -  
it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I said, searching  
for the files by name brings up nothing so I suspect they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a bit  
tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one. Searching for  
them by file number (the thumbnails still have their numbers)  
fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between the  
thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or  
alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in fine,  
but it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just in the  
Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit iphoto and  
re-launch, it says there are photos in the library that haven't  
been imported, would I like to import them? If I say yes, it then  
asks what to do with all the duplicates, as if they are in there  
already! If I say import them again, I get a set of working  
thumbnails, but if I click them I just get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets of  
thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files when  
clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-21 Thread mince and pud


yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:



Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences  Advanced  - Importing:  
Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to library, and  
Add ColorSync profile. Are they both ticked?


On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a rebuild  
- it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I said,  
searching for the files by name brings up nothing so I suspect  
they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a  
bit tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr  
Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one. Searching  
for them by file number (the thumbnails still have their  
numbers) fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between the  
thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or  
alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in fine,  
but it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just in the  
Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit iphoto  
and re-launch, it says there are photos in the library that  
haven't been imported, would I like to import them? If I say  
yes, it then asks what to do with all the duplicates, as if they  
are in there already! If I say import them again, I get a set of  
working thumbnails, but if I click them I just get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets of  
thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files when  
clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: iphoto gone spoggly

2009-09-21 Thread Ronda Brown


When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' Recover orphaned  
photos in the iPhoto Library folder.

In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these photos  
as they are disconnected photos.

IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know yet.

Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one before you do anymore messing around ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/09/2009, at 12:29 PM, mince and pud wrote:



yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:



Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences  Advanced  - Importing:  
Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to library, and  
Add ColorSync profile. Are they both ticked?


On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a rebuild  
- it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I said,  
searching for the files by name brings up nothing so I suspect  
they are gone.


None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:



Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a  
bit tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr  
Google...


The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank  
thumbnails and the grey ! when I try to open one. Searching  
for them by file number (the thumbnails still have their  
numbers) fails to find them anywhere.


Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between the  
thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents.
Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or  
alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.



If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in fine,  
but it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just in the  
Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit iphoto  
and re-launch, it says there are photos in the library that  
haven't been imported, would I like to import them? If I say  
yes, it then asks what to do with all the duplicates, as if they  
are in there already! If I say import them again, I get a set of  
working thumbnails, but if I click them I just get !s


(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets of  
thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files when  
clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)


any insights appreciated


Were any of the photos Greyscale images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




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