Re: Anti virus software

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Marcus.

Perhaps Intego protection is a “Placebo”. Or perhaps it works !
At the very least I feel more secure by using it.
Consequently I worry less.

In the same way that my home is very secure with good locks (using keys) and 
security grills.
And a monitored alarm system.

So far I have NOT been burgled.
Is that because of my security diligence?
Or am I just lucky ?
I don’t know … but so far I feel good about it.

> On 17 Apr 2018, at 2:26 pm, Marcus Harris  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is interesting as I haven’t used antivirus since buying my first 
> Apple Mac in 1986. 
> I thought the regular security updates from Apple were enough.
> Presumably if one wasn’t SPAM aware a virus or similar could corrupt the 
> system, otherwise do we really need AV?
> Marcus
> 
> Marcus Harris 74 iPhone7
> 
> On 17 Apr 2018, at 1:43 pm, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jennifer
>> 
>> I have used Intego Virus Barrier and Net Barrier for many years.
>> As far as I am aware the only one made specifically for Mac.
>> Doesn’t have any noticeable effect on performance either.
>> I believe all the others are offshoots of Windows software.
>> 
>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:02 am, Jennifer Lefroy >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was told by mu server - Zettanet - that I should have antivirus software 
>>> installed.  What is the latest recommendation, please/
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
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[Ronda Brown]

Hi , Jennifer, Stephen, and Marcus,

If you are running the current versions of macOS and keep your systems updated 
with Apple software updates and security updates, and sensible with NOT 
clicking on links in emails, going to suspect websites, downloading movies etc 
from illicit websites.
In my opinion you don’t need Anti-Virus software.

Before is an extract I copied awhile ago from MacWorld UK but unfortunately I 
didn’t copy the link.
How Apple protects your Mac from malware

Apple goes to great lengths to protect you from malware by making it almost 
impossible for you to download it in the first place. The company has built 
anti-malware protection into macOS. For example, before you can open a file, 
your Mac will check it against a list of malware, and even if there is no 
reason for concern it will not allow you to open an application from a 
developer that it hasn’t already approved.

The Mac's malware scanning tool, Xprotect, works invisibly and automatically in 
the background and requires no user configuration. Apple has a list of 
malicious applications that it checks against when you open downloaded 
applications. Updates happen invisibly too. This is similar to having antivirus 
software from another software developer running on your Mac, with the bonus of 
being written into the operating system and therefore it doesn't hamper the 
speed of your Mac.

If you download and try to open files contaminated with malware, you may see an 
explicit warning that the files will "damage your computer", along with a 
reference to type of malware. You should delete the file immediately.

In addition, macOS blocks downloaded software that hasn't been digitally signed 
- a process in which Apple approves the developer. This leads to the familiar 
error message when you try to use or install unsigned software: "[this app] 
can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer."

The system at work here is called Gatekeeper and can be controlled via the 
Security & Privacy section of System Preferences - in Security & Privacy select 
the General tab and choose from the options underneath Allow Applications 
Downloaded From. The options include App Store or App Store and Identified 
Developers.

There used to be an option to disable the feature by choosing 'Anywhere' but 
this option is no longer available. This doesn't mean you can't open apps that 
haven't been approved by Apple though - it just means that you will have to 
tweak some settings in order to do so. (Here's how to open an app from an 
unidentified developer).

Setting this option to App Store and Identified Developers is the best plan. 
All software downloaded via the App Store is signed, so you'll only see 
Gatekeeper warnings with a minority of apps you've downloaded manually. You can 
bypass its protection when needed - assuming you're sure an app or installation 
package is safe, just hold down Ctrl, then click it and select Open. This will 
mark it as being trusted.

Software that is approved by Apple is also Sandboxed, which means apps do only 
what they’re intended to do. App sandboxing isolates apps from the critical 
system components of your Mac, your data and your other apps, so they shouldn't 
be able to access anything that could allow them to do any damage.

There's also anti-phishing technology in Safari that will detect fraudulent 
websites. It will disable the page and display an alert warning you if you 
visit a suspect website.

You'll also notice that plug-ins such as Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight, 
QuickTime and Oracle Java won't run if they aren't updated to the latest 
version - another way of ensuring your Mac is safe.

In addition to Gatekeeper, which should keep malware off your Mac, FileVault 2 
makes sure your data is safe and secure by encrypting it. 

How Apple responds to security threats

Despite the security measures Apple has in place, from time-to-time there are 
threats to the Mac.

Apple has its own security research team, but it depends on users and 
independent researchers to help by reporting any flaws they find in Apple 
products.

To this end, Apple has an incentive program that rewards such discoveries with 
payments of up to $200,000, depending on the seriousness of the flaw. But it 
was the last major tech company to set up such a scheme. (Microsoft set up its 
own bug-reporting incentive programme in 2013, and was itself criticised at the 
time for leaving it so late.)

On 4 August 2016, Apple security boss Ivan Krstic announced the Apple Security 
Bounty Program. "We've had great help from researchers in improving iOS 
security all along," Krstic said. "[But] we've heard pretty consistently... 
that it's getting increasingly difficult to find some of those most critical 
types of security vulnerabilities. So the Apple Security Bounty Program is 
going to reward researchers who actually share critical vulnerabilities with 
Apple."

Re: Anti virus software

[Marcus Harris]

Well, this is interesting as I haven’t used antivirus since buying my first 
Apple Mac in 1986. 
I thought the regular security updates from Apple were enough.
Presumably if one wasn’t SPAM aware a virus or similar could corrupt the 
system, otherwise do we really need AV?
Marcus

Marcus Harris 74 iPhone7

> On 17 Apr 2018, at 1:43 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer
> 
> I have used Intego Virus Barrier and Net Barrier for many years.
> As far as I am aware the only one made specifically for Mac.
> Doesn’t have any noticeable effect on performance either.
> I believe all the others are offshoots of Windows software.
> 
>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:02 am, Jennifer Lefroy  
>> wrote:
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>> I was told by mu server - Zettanet - that I should have antivirus software 
>> installed.  What is the latest recommendation, please/
>> 
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Hi Jennifer

I have used Intego Virus Barrier and Net Barrier for many years.
As far as I am aware the only one made specifically for Mac.
Doesn’t have any noticeable effect on performance either.
I believe all the others are offshoots of Windows software.

> On 17 Apr 2018, at 10:02 am, Jennifer Lefroy  
> wrote:
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[Jennifer Lefroy]

I was told by mu server - Zettanet - that I should have antivirus software
installed.  What is the latest recommendation, please/

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Mac anti virus testing

[Alan Fenton]

Hello all.
This may be of interest.
From Alan.


http://www.reedcorner.net/mac-anti-virus-testing-01-2013/
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Re: Mac anti virus testing

[Ronda Brown]

Do You Need Mac Antivirus Software in 2013?
No!
http://tidbits.com/article/13476

Cheers,
Ronni
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 This may be of interest.
 From Alan.
 
 
 http://www.reedcorner.net/mac-anti-virus-testing-01-2013/
 
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Re: free anti-virus software

[Stuart Breden]

I have never used any antivirus software in my Apple OS.  Use it though in 
Window in VMWare Fusion.

Stuart Breden
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On 20/08/2012, at 1:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 
 The best anti virus for your MAC is your MAC OS.
 There are no known viruses for MAC.  Trojans and malware are not viruses.
 Follow the safe browsing rules so you won't have to worry about viruses, 
 trojans and malware.
 
 All real-time antivirus products slow down your computer, that is the nature 
 of the game. 
 So Sophos will slow down your computer.
 Norton software tends to always be bloated and not really that great to begin 
 with, so I would leave iAntiVirus alone.
 
 If you feel you require Antivirus program on your Mac ClamXav 2.3.2 is highly 
 recommended and Free. 
 But DON'T download the App Store version, download from this link.
 http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#
 
 What are the differences between the version of ClamXav available to download 
 here and the version on the Mac App Store?
 
   • The App Store version doesn't contain ClamXav Sentry, so it is not 
 able to watch your computer for new files and scan them as they arrive.
   • There is no engine installation phase as the App Store requirements 
 stipulate that everything must be self-contained within the app.
   • Virus definition updates are downloaded on a per-user basis.
   • Updates to the ClamXav app itself are taken care of via the Mac App 
 Store.
   • Mac OS X 10.6 or greater is required.
   
 So to answer your Question:
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 It is your choice really, if having virus protection on your Mac is going to 
 make you feel safer (more protected) go ahead.
 Personally I don't feel they are worth having.
 
 And Yes, they will run on your iMac running 10.6.8, just make sure you 
 download the version compatible with OS X 10.6.8
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: free anti-virus software

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Ronni and Severin,

Thanks for your replies.

Ronni, I'll follow your advice and leave things as they are as I am not having 
any problems.
However, I am keeping your comments for future reference.

Thanks again,

Walter


On 20.08.2012, at 13:00, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 
 The best anti virus for your MAC is your MAC OS.
 There are no known viruses for MAC.  Trojans and malware are not viruses.
 Follow the safe browsing rules so you won't have to worry about viruses, 
 trojans and malware.
 
 All real-time antivirus products slow down your computer, that is the nature 
 of the game. 
 So Sophos will slow down your computer.
 Norton software tends to always be bloated and not really that great to begin 
 with, so I would leave iAntiVirus alone.
 
 If you feel you require Antivirus program on your Mac ClamXav 2.3.2 is highly 
 recommended and Free. 
 But DON'T download the App Store version, download from this link.
 http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#
 
 What are the differences between the version of ClamXav available to download 
 here and the version on the Mac App Store?
 
   • The App Store version doesn't contain ClamXav Sentry, so it is not 
 able to watch your computer for new files and scan them as they arrive.
   • There is no engine installation phase as the App Store requirements 
 stipulate that everything must be self-contained within the app.
   • Virus definition updates are downloaded on a per-user basis.
   • Updates to the ClamXav app itself are taken care of via the Mac App 
 Store.
   • Mac OS X 10.6 or greater is required.
   
 So to answer your Question:
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 It is your choice really, if having virus protection on your Mac is going to 
 make you feel safer (more protected) go ahead.
 Personally I don't feel they are worth having.
 
 And Yes, they will run on your iMac running 10.6.8, just make sure you 
 download the version compatible with OS X 10.6.8
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter
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free anti-virus software

[F . W . Hänel]

Hi all,

I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs

1. iAntiVirus by Norton
2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac

Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?

Cheers,

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Re: free anti-virus software

[Severin Crisp]

For years I have used Intego Virus Barrier and give it a full thumbs up.  
After bad experiences, admittedly years ago, the name Norton is a real turn off 
for me.  
Severin Crisp 

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 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
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Re: free anti-virus software

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Walter,

The best anti virus for your MAC is your MAC OS.
There are no known viruses for MAC.  Trojans and malware are not viruses.
Follow the safe browsing rules so you won't have to worry about viruses, 
trojans and malware.

All real-time antivirus products slow down your computer, that is the nature of 
the game. 
So Sophos will slow down your computer.
Norton software tends to always be bloated and not really that great to begin 
with, so I would leave iAntiVirus alone.

If you feel you require Antivirus program on your Mac ClamXav 2.3.2 is highly 
recommended and Free. 
But DON'T download the App Store version, download from this link.
http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#

What are the differences between the version of ClamXav available to download 
here and the version on the Mac App Store?

• The App Store version doesn't contain ClamXav Sentry, so it is not 
able to watch your computer for new files and scan them as they arrive.
• There is no engine installation phase as the App Store requirements 
stipulate that everything must be self-contained within the app.
• Virus definition updates are downloaded on a per-user basis.
• Updates to the ClamXav app itself are taken care of via the Mac App 
Store.
• Mac OS X 10.6 or greater is required.

So to answer your Question:
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?

It is your choice really, if having virus protection on your Mac is going to 
make you feel safer (more protected) go ahead.
Personally I don't feel they are worth having.

And Yes, they will run on your iMac running 10.6.8, just make sure you download 
the version compatible with OS X 10.6.8

Cheers,
Ronni

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 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
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Re: free anti-virus software

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

Walter asked about 'Free' Anti-Virus software.  Intego VirusBarrier is not free 
is it? 
I understood you have to purchase Intego VirusBarrier  pay yearly, 2yrly or 
3yrly  for protection.

Cheers,
Ronni

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 For years I have used Intego Virus Barrier and give it a full thumbs up.  
 After bad experiences, admittedly years ago, the name Norton is a real turn 
 off for me.  
 Severin Crisp 
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter

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Re: free anti-virus software

[Severin Crisp]

That is correct, I can not recall the amount but it is not excessive.  
I have used it for many years now with nary a glitch,and an occasional 
detection of something nasty to let me know it is (probably!) working.  It used 
to have a cousin called Net Barrier but this is now rolled in with Virus 
Barrier to make a complete package.  It can be licensed for more than one 
computer, as I have done.  
I agree, the built in OS protection is probably more than sufficient but with 
this my sleep at night is doubly assured!  
Severin


On 20/08/2012, at 1:16 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Severin,
 
 Walter asked about 'Free' Anti-Virus software.  Intego VirusBarrier is not 
 free is it? 
 I understood you have to purchase Intego VirusBarrier  pay yearly, 2yrly or 
 3yrly  for protection.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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 For years I have used Intego Virus Barrier and give it a full thumbs up.  
 After bad experiences, admittedly years ago, the name Norton is a real turn 
 off for me.  
 Severin Crisp 
 
 On 20/08/2012, at 12:07 PM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was reading about 2 of the free anit-virus software programs
 
 1. iAntiVirus by Norton
 2. Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac
 
 Are they worth having and will they work with my iMac running 10.6.8 ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Walter
 
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Re: Anti Virus

[Curtis Peter]

Hi Shayne (and others)
I've never used a windoze machine except for the last couple of years running 
OzieExplorer which cannot be run on a Mac, and is the only reason I'm running 
Paralells. It saves having an additional machine around. I had unsuccessfully 
tried the older virtual programs (Virtual PC) but they were too slow and 
cumbersome. 
I started using Mac in 1982 on an Apple 111! It cost me $5000 and didn't even 
have a hard drive, plus I had to buy an additional drive to save swapping 5.25 
program and data floppy disks.
If windoze users think it's hard swapping to a Mac you aught to try the other 
way round, Mac to Windoze! It's horrific. You keep looking for the intuitive 
way of doing things and there just aint any. Right from the beginning where you 
have to go to start to actually finish or shut down. Makes sense doesn't it?
Anyway, back to the present, I did download AVG and tried that but the Windows 
Security Essentials sounded better to me so I've wiped AVG and downloaded the 
Essentials to give it a go.
Much thanks to all in sundry for their informative suggestions and comments.
Regards
Peter

On 29/06/2012, at 10:17 PM, S Beach wrote:

 Hi Peter
 
 I've used and serviced Windows computers for many years and may have even
 serviced yours just at the time you were switching to Mac.
 I've used AVG in the past and got sick of lots of questions and pop-ups and
 buy-me messages. I have also used Nortons in the past and while my
 experience was ok they seemed to add more unnecessary features each
 release. They may have trimmed back a bit now -i dont know.
 When I use Windows now in VMware and other pc's I use the free antivirus
 program from Microsoft called Windows Security Essentials.
 Surprise surprise it has been given good reviews. It works effectively,
 doesn't seem to slow the computer down and doesn't annoy you.
 Best of all it works seemlessly with the built in Windows firewall and
 doesn't ask you stupid questions that it you dont have a clue how to answer
 and it should be able to answer itself.
 
 And yes every windows installation, physical or virtual, must have
 antivirus software installed and running at all times.
 
 Those questions are easily answered... But from my reading of your email it
 seems you are asking about antivirus for Mac.
 Now there's a question that I don't know the answer to  it seems few
 people want to face up too but I fear we may all have too perhaps sooner
 rather than later. I read an article a while back that convinced me I
 should find some sort of antivirus app for my Mac. I added it to my to-do
 list. Sigh. Do I too have a (perhaps) false sense of security?
 
 Anyway the cynic in me suspects that parallels gets a commission for every
 Kaspersky sale it refers. Not possible surely! :-) I wouldn't necessarily
 rush to them anyway. I would be looking for objective reviews and
 comparisons on tech sites etc... if objective reviews still exist in a
 world of referral commisions  affiliate marketing.
 
 Sorry I can't be more help on this front.
 
 Regards
 Shayne
 
 
 On Friday, June 29, 2012, Tim Law wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I get that annoying Kaperski pop up too and have often wondered the same
 thing as you.
 
 I ended up buying a family licence for Nortons as others in my family,
 sigh - failed parenting I know - have those other machines, and Nortons
 seems to work okay. I don't use Windows in Parrallels very often, but let
 it go through all it's updates as it wants each time I start up to avoid
 nasties getting in and have not had any problems with it so far.
 
 I take Ronni's point that another app may be kinder on  VM resources and
 will look at avg when Nortons want to take money from me again.
 
 I'd be interested in others experiences of Kasperky too, in particular if
 it is recommended by Parrallels, I'd be hoping it was A) effective
 antivirus, and B) not resource hungry. I'm like you, I'd not heard of it
 before and have a general distrust of annoying pop ups.
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 On 29/06/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I run Windows 7 Ultimate in Parallels Desktop 7. Have used Parallels
 since version 5 I think.
 It is a very good program. I only have Windows installed on my MBP to
 show clients that they can run Windows on a Mac :-)
 So I really don't use Windows 7 much at all...
 
 On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
 
 Hi
 I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last
 June MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky
 Anti Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
 Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
 
 You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and
 that includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
 You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.
 
 A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the Mac
 disc drives.
 Although a Windows virus would

Re: Anti Virus

[cm]

 June MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky
 Anti Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
 Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
 
 You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and
 that includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
 You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.
 
 A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the Mac
 disc drives.
 Although a Windows virus would not infect the Mac environment via
 Parallels, it is possible that using an infected Windows Word to edit a
 Word doc on the Mac would definitely lead to a Macro virus infection of
 .doc files on the Mac.
 Sharing such a file with your correspondents would send them the virus,
 and they would then be infected.
 
 Should I have an anti virus program?
 
 Most definitely
 
 Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?
 
 I seem to remember having problems after I installed Kaspersky Anti
 Virus and I had to uninstall it.
 I think it was to do with Kaspersky's Firewall causing problems. If I
 find my notes I'll post more.
 
 Or is there some other recommended anti virus program?
 
 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of
 all, it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download
 
 People who use Windows in Parallels for work might suggest other Virus
 Protection programs.
 
 Regards
 Peter
 p.s. There's my annual subs repaid for this year :)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
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Re: Anti Virus

[Severin Crisp]

Likewise I have AVG AntiVirus (free version) on my virtual Windows XP machine 
with VMWare Fusion.   After several years I have had no problems - and no 
viruses either.  Like Neil I have no inclination to upgrade to the paid version
Severin Crisp

On 29/06/2012, at 12:23 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 I'll second Ronni's experience that AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 I've been happy with their free version on Windows XP running in Parallels
 (though, again, I do VERY little work in Windows) - just keep ignoring their
 option to upgrade to the FULL (paid) version ;o)
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 on 29/6/12 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of all,
 it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download
 
 
 
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Re: Anti Virus

[Tim Law]

Hi Peter,

I get that annoying Kaperski pop up too and have often wondered the same thing 
as you.

I ended up buying a family licence for Nortons as others in my family, sigh - 
failed parenting I know - have those other machines, and Nortons seems to work 
okay. I don't use Windows in Parrallels very often, but let it go through all 
it's updates as it wants each time I start up to avoid nasties getting in and 
have not had any problems with it so far. 

I take Ronni's point that another app may be kinder on  VM resources and will 
look at avg when Nortons want to take money from me again. 

I'd be interested in others experiences of Kasperky too, in particular if it is 
recommended by Parrallels, I'd be hoping it was A) effective antivirus, and B) 
not resource hungry. I'm like you, I'd not heard of it before and have a 
general distrust of annoying pop ups. 

Tim



On 29/06/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 I run Windows 7 Ultimate in Parallels Desktop 7. Have used Parallels since 
 version 5 I think.
 It is a very good program. I only have Windows installed on my MBP to show 
 clients that they can run Windows on a Mac :-)
 So I really don't use Windows 7 much at all... 
 
 On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
 
 Hi
 I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last June 
 MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky Anti 
 Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
 Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
 
 You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and that 
 includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
 You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.
 
 A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the Mac disc 
 drives.
 Although a Windows virus would not infect the Mac environment via Parallels, 
 it is possible that using an infected Windows Word to edit a Word doc on the 
 Mac would definitely lead to a Macro virus infection of .doc files on the Mac.
 Sharing such a file with your correspondents would send them the virus, and 
 they would then be infected.
 
 Should I have an anti virus program?
 
 Most definitely
 
 Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?
 
 I seem to remember having problems after I installed Kaspersky Anti Virus and 
 I had to uninstall it.
 I think it was to do with Kaspersky's Firewall causing problems. If I find my 
 notes I'll post more.
 
 Or is there some other recommended anti virus program?
 
 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job. 
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of all, 
 it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download
 
 People who use Windows in Parallels for work might suggest other Virus 
 Protection programs.
 
 Regards
 Peter
 p.s. There's my annual subs repaid for this year :)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
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Re: Anti Virus

[Stephen Chape]

I use Kapersky.
It seems to work OK and does not slow down my old mac like Virus Barrier did !

On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:

 Hi
 I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last June 
 MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky Anti 
 Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
 Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
 Should I have an anti virus program?
 Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?
 Or is there some other recommended anti virus program?
 Regards
 Peter
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Re: Anti Virus

[Stephen Chape]

Buy Kapersky and you won't get the pop ups !

On 29/06/2012, at 11:33 AM, Tim Law wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 I get that annoying Kaperski pop up too and have often wondered the same 
 thing as you.
 
 I ended up buying a family licence for Nortons as others in my family, sigh - 
 failed parenting I know - have those other machines, and Nortons seems to 
 work okay. I don't use Windows in Parrallels very often, but let it go 
 through all it's updates as it wants each time I start up to avoid nasties 
 getting in and have not had any problems with it so far. 
 
 I take Ronni's point that another app may be kinder on  VM resources and will 
 look at avg when Nortons want to take money from me again. 
 
 I'd be interested in others experiences of Kasperky too, in particular if it 
 is recommended by Parrallels, I'd be hoping it was A) effective antivirus, 
 and B) not resource hungry. I'm like you, I'd not heard of it before and have 
 a general distrust of annoying pop ups. 
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 On 29/06/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I run Windows 7 Ultimate in Parallels Desktop 7. Have used Parallels since 
 version 5 I think.
 It is a very good program. I only have Windows installed on my MBP to show 
 clients that they can run Windows on a Mac :-)
 So I really don't use Windows 7 much at all... 
 
 On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
 
 Hi
 I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last June 
 MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky Anti 
 Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
 Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
 
 You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and that 
 includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
 You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.
 
 A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the Mac 
 disc drives.
 Although a Windows virus would not infect the Mac environment via Parallels, 
 it is possible that using an infected Windows Word to edit a Word doc on the 
 Mac would definitely lead to a Macro virus infection of .doc files on the 
 Mac.
 Sharing such a file with your correspondents would send them the virus, and 
 they would then be infected.
 
 Should I have an anti virus program?
 
 Most definitely
 
 Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?
 
 I seem to remember having problems after I installed Kaspersky Anti Virus 
 and I had to uninstall it.
 I think it was to do with Kaspersky's Firewall causing problems. If I find 
 my notes I'll post more.
 
 Or is there some other recommended anti virus program?
 
 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job. 
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of all, 
 it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download
 
 People who use Windows in Parallels for work might suggest other Virus 
 Protection programs.
 
 Regards
 Peter
 p.s. There's my annual subs repaid for this year :)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
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Re: Anti Virus

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 29/06/2012, at 10:17 PM, S Beach wrote:

 Hi Peter
 
 I've used and serviced Windows computers for many years and may have even
 serviced yours just at the time you were switching to Mac.
 I've used AVG in the past and got sick of lots of questions and pop-ups and
 buy-me messages. I have also used Nortons in the past and while my
 experience was ok they seemed to add more unnecessary features each
 release. They may have trimmed back a bit now -i dont know.
 When I use Windows now in VMware and other pc's I use the free antivirus
 program from Microsoft called Windows Security Essentials.
 Surprise surprise it has been given good reviews. It works effectively,
 doesn't seem to slow the computer down and doesn't annoy you.
 Best of all it works seemlessly with the built in Windows firewall and
 doesn't ask you stupid questions that it you dont have a clue how to answer
 and it should be able to answer itself.
 

I heartily endorse the suggestion of using Windows Security Essentials. It's 
every bit as good as, if not better than all the other free antivirus 
solutions out there, and best of all, it will never start to nag you about 
upgrading to a paid version. This is one of the few occasions where Microsoft 
gets a big Plus from me for a software release. It works well, keeps out of the 
way, and signifies that they have finally realised their responsibilities in 
helping to clean up their own mess. Given the Sandboxed nature of 
virtualisation software to start with, and the very limited use that most Mac 
users will have for Windows, WSE is and excellent solution.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Anti Virus

[Reg Whitely]

Hi Shayne

For Mac, I've used ClamXav. It's free and seems good. You just reminded me, I 
haven't installed it on my MacBook Pro since upgrading to Lion. I will do so 
now and report back.

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net



On 29/06/2012, at 10:17 pm, S Beach wrote:

 Hi Peter
 
 I've used and serviced Windows computers for many years and may have even
 serviced yours just at the time you were switching to Mac.
 I've used AVG in the past and got sick of lots of questions and pop-ups and
 buy-me messages. I have also used Nortons in the past and while my
 experience was ok they seemed to add more unnecessary features each
 release. They may have trimmed back a bit now -i dont know.
 When I use Windows now in VMware and other pc's I use the free antivirus
 program from Microsoft called Windows Security Essentials.
 Surprise surprise it has been given good reviews. It works effectively,
 doesn't seem to slow the computer down and doesn't annoy you.
 Best of all it works seemlessly with the built in Windows firewall and
 doesn't ask you stupid questions that it you dont have a clue how to answer
 and it should be able to answer itself.
 
 And yes every windows installation, physical or virtual, must have
 antivirus software installed and running at all times.
 
 Those questions are easily answered... But from my reading of your email it
 seems you are asking about antivirus for Mac.
 Now there's a question that I don't know the answer to  it seems few
 people want to face up too but I fear we may all have too perhaps sooner
 rather than later. I read an article a while back that convinced me I
 should find some sort of antivirus app for my Mac. I added it to my to-do
 list. Sigh. Do I too have a (perhaps) false sense of security?
 
 Anyway the cynic in me suspects that parallels gets a commission for every
 Kaspersky sale it refers. Not possible surely! :-) I wouldn't necessarily
 rush to them anyway. I would be looking for objective reviews and
 comparisons on tech sites etc... if objective reviews still exist in a
 world of referral commisions  affiliate marketing.
 
 Sorry I can't be more help on this front.
 
 Regards
 Shayne
 
 
 On Friday, June 29, 2012, Tim Law wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I get that annoying Kaperski pop up too and have often wondered the same
 thing as you.
 
 I ended up buying a family licence for Nortons as others in my family,
 sigh - failed parenting I know - have those other machines, and Nortons
 seems to work okay. I don't use Windows in Parrallels very often, but let
 it go through all it's updates as it wants each time I start up to avoid
 nasties getting in and have not had any problems with it so far.
 
 I take Ronni's point that another app may be kinder on  VM resources and
 will look at avg when Nortons want to take money from me again.
 
 I'd be interested in others experiences of Kasperky too, in particular if
 it is recommended by Parrallels, I'd be hoping it was A) effective
 antivirus, and B) not resource hungry. I'm like you, I'd not heard of it
 before and have a general distrust of annoying pop ups.
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 On 29/06/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I run Windows 7 Ultimate in Parallels Desktop 7. Have used Parallels
 since version 5 I think.
 It is a very good program. I only have Windows installed on my MBP to
 show clients that they can run Windows on a Mac :-)
 So I really don't use Windows 7 much at all...
 
 On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
 
 Hi
 I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last
 June MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky
 Anti Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
 Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
 
 You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and
 that includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
 You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.
 
 A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the Mac
 disc drives.
 Although a Windows virus would not infect the Mac environment via
 Parallels, it is possible that using an infected Windows Word to edit a
 Word doc on the Mac would definitely lead to a Macro virus infection of
 .doc files on the Mac.
 Sharing such a file with your correspondents would send them the virus,
 and they would then be infected.
 
 Should I have an anti virus program?
 
 Most definitely
 
 Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?
 
 I seem to remember having problems after I installed Kaspersky Anti
 Virus and I had to uninstall it.
 I think it was to do with Kaspersky's Firewall causing problems. If I
 find my notes I'll post more.
 
 Or is there some other recommended anti virus program?
 
 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of
 all, it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus

Re: Anti Virus

[S Beach]

I forgot to mention that Windows Security Essentials can be downloaded from
www.microsoft.com/security-essentials

And thanks Reg, I'll be interested to hear how it goes.

Regards
Shayne


On Saturday, June 30, 2012, Reg Whitely wrote:

 Hi Shayne

 For Mac, I've used ClamXav. It's free and seems good. You just reminded
 me, I haven't installed it on my MacBook Pro since upgrading to Lion. I
 will do so now and report back.

 Reg

 Reg Whitely

 Home: 08 9921 7272
 Mob: 04 8899 7313
 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net javascript:;



 On 29/06/2012, at 10:17 pm, S Beach wrote:

  Hi Peter
 
  I've used and serviced Windows computers for many years and may have even
  serviced yours just at the time you were switching to Mac.
  I've used AVG in the past and got sick of lots of questions and pop-ups
 and
  buy-me messages. I have also used Nortons in the past and while my
  experience was ok they seemed to add more unnecessary features each
  release. They may have trimmed back a bit now -i dont know.
  When I use Windows now in VMware and other pc's I use the free antivirus
  program from Microsoft called Windows Security Essentials.
  Surprise surprise it has been given good reviews. It works effectively,
  doesn't seem to slow the computer down and doesn't annoy you.
  Best of all it works seemlessly with the built in Windows firewall and
  doesn't ask you stupid questions that it you dont have a clue how to
 answer
  and it should be able to answer itself.
 
  And yes every windows installation, physical or virtual, must have
  antivirus software installed and running at all times.
 
  Those questions are easily answered... But from my reading of your email
 it
  seems you are asking about antivirus for Mac.
  Now there's a question that I don't know the answer to  it seems few
  people want to face up too but I fear we may all have too perhaps sooner
  rather than later. I read an article a while back that convinced me I
  should find some sort of antivirus app for my Mac. I added it to my to-do
  list. Sigh. Do I too have a (perhaps) false sense of security?
 
  Anyway the cynic in me suspects that parallels gets a commission for
 every
  Kaspersky sale it refers. Not possible surely! :-) I wouldn't necessarily
  rush to them anyway. I would be looking for objective reviews and
  comparisons on tech sites etc... if objective reviews still exist in a
  world of referral commisions  affiliate marketing.
 
  Sorry I can't be more help on this front.
 
  Regards
  Shayne
 
 
  On Friday, June 29, 2012, Tim Law wrote:
 
  Hi Peter,
 
  I get that annoying Kaperski pop up too and have often wondered the same
  thing as you.
 
  I ended up buying a family licence for Nortons as others in my family,
  sigh - failed parenting I know - have those other machines, and Nortons
  seems to work okay. I don't use Windows in Parrallels very often, but
 let
  it go through all it's updates as it wants each time I start up to avoid
  nasties getting in and have not had any problems with it so far.
 
  I take Ronni's point that another app may be kinder on  VM resources and
  will look at avg when Nortons want to take money from me again.
 
  I'd be interested in others experiences of Kasperky too, in particular
 if
  it is recommended by Parrallels, I'd be hoping it was A) effective
  antivirus, and B) not resource hungry. I'm like you, I'd not heard of it
  before and have a general distrust of annoying pop ups.
 
  Tim
 
 
 
  On 29/06/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
  Hi Peter,
 
  I run Windows 7 Ultimate in Parallels Desktop 7. Have used Parallels
  since version 5 I think.
  It is a very good program. I only have Windows installed on my MBP to
  show clients that they can run Windows on a Mac :-)
  So I really don't use Windows 7 much at all...
 
  On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
 
  Hi
  I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last
  June MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending
 Kaspersky
  Anti Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little
 concerned!
  Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
 
  You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and
  that includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
  You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.
 
  A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the
 Mac
  disc drives.
  Although a Windows virus would not infect the Mac environment via
  Parallels, it is possible that using an infected Windows Word to edit a
  Word doc on the Mac would definitely lead to a Macro virus infection of
  .doc files on the Mac.
  Sharing such a file with your correspondents would send them the virus,
  and they would then be infected.
 
  Should I have an anti virus program?
 
  Most definitely
 
  Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?
 
  I seem to remember having problems after I installed Kaspersky Anti
  Virus and I had to uninstall

Re: Anti Virus

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

I run Windows 7 Ultimate in Parallels Desktop 7. Have used Parallels since 
version 5 I think.
It is a very good program. I only have Windows installed on my MBP to show 
clients that they can run Windows on a Mac :-)
So I really don't use Windows 7 much at all... 

On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:

 Hi
 I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last June 
 MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky Anti 
 Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
 Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?

You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and that 
includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.

A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the Mac disc 
drives.
Although a Windows virus would not infect the Mac environment via Parallels, it 
is possible that using an infected Windows Word to edit a Word doc on the Mac 
would definitely lead to a Macro virus infection of .doc files on the Mac.
Sharing such a file with your correspondents would send them the virus, and 
they would then be infected.

 Should I have an anti virus program?

Most definitely

 Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?

I seem to remember having problems after I installed Kaspersky Anti Virus and I 
had to uninstall it.
I think it was to do with Kaspersky's Firewall causing problems. If I find my 
notes I'll post more.

 Or is there some other recommended anti virus program?

I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job. 
AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of all, 
it's FREE
http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download

People who use Windows in Parallels for work might suggest other Virus 
Protection programs.

 Regards
 Peter
 p.s. There's my annual subs repaid for this year :)


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Anti Virus

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Peter,

I'll second Ronni's experience that AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
I've been happy with their free version on Windows XP running in Parallels
(though, again, I do VERY little work in Windows) - just keep ignoring their
option to upgrade to the FULL (paid) version ;o)


Cheers


Neil
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on 29/6/12 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of all,
 it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download



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Re: Anti Virus

[Daniel Kerr]

Yep. You can't go wrong with avg free. Great program. It's what I recommend 
when setting up parallels or VMware for clients. For that sort of use no point 
paying a yearly fee for something. :)
And they tend to do a new version each year, so all you do is download the new 
one each year and you're then up to date (for free) again. 

Easy! :))

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Daniel

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On 29/06/2012, at 12:23 PM, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 I'll second Ronni's experience that AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 I've been happy with their free version on Windows XP running in Parallels
 (though, again, I do VERY little work in Windows) - just keep ignoring their
 option to upgrade to the FULL (paid) version ;o)
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 on 29/6/12 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of all,
 it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download
 
 
 
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Re: Anti Virus for Mac

[Rob Phillips]

Hmmm.

I'm getting some flak at Murdoch that I should not have uninstalled 
Symantec Antivirus for Mac. I did this because it seemed to degrade 
performance by 50% for no reason. As far as I am aware, there is no 
active virus threat to Macs, as long as you are careful with what you 
download.

Can anyone provide evidence about how bad Symantec is? If they insist, 
is there any better alternative?

Cheers
Rob {paid up} :-\

On 29/06/12 12:23 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 Hi Peter,

 I'll second Ronni's experience that AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 I've been happy with their free version on Windows XP running in Parallels
 (though, again, I do VERY little work in Windows) - just keep ignoring their
 option to upgrade to the FULL (paid) version ;o)


 Cheers


 Neil

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Re: Anti Virus

[Alan Smith]

I feel compelled to add my 2 cents worth as an (ex) experienced avg-free user 
(for several years up to 2010).

I found avg-free to  be memory hogging.  My Windows XP laptop became 
progressively slower with info messages that memory was being re-allocated.  
When it became impossible to use I removed avg-free - and reclaimed one 
workable computer (now used as a portable iTunes player).   My sluggish Windows 
XP desktop, also with avg-free,  was similarly reinvigorated when the anti 
virus program was removed.   For the security minded, both Windows machines now 
have no internet access!

I do not have an anti virus program on my (late 2009) iMac.

Cheers
Alan



On 29/06/2012, at 12:32 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

Yep. You can't go wrong with avg free. Great program. It's what I recommend 
when setting up parallels or VMware for clients. For that sort of use no point 
paying a yearly fee for something. :)
And they tend to do a new version each year, so all you do is download the new 
one each year and you're then up to date (for free) again. 

Easy! :))

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 4s

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On 29/06/2012, at 12:23 PM, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 I'll second Ronni's experience that AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 I've been happy with their free version on Windows XP running in Parallels
 (though, again, I do VERY little work in Windows) - just keep ignoring their
 option to upgrade to the FULL (paid) version ;o)
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 on 29/6/12 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
 AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of all,
 it's FREE
 http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download
 
 
 
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Anti Virus Software

[Barry Sexstone]

Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for Snow  
Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL and  
I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry


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Re: Anti Virus Software

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 01/11/2009, at 7:26 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for Snow  
Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL  
and I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry



Did your previous subscription ever report the presence and capture of  
any Mac viruses? I didn't think so, because they don't exist in any  
real sense. X5 was just sitting there doing nothing useful and  
consuming processor resources that could have been used for something  
else. There may come a time when software like this might become  
necessary on a Mac, but it hasn't arrived yet.


Save your money.

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Re: Anti Virus Software

[Rob Findlay]

Clam AV X is donation-ware and the latest beta build is Snow Leopard  
compatible.
Even though there may not be danger in the wild for Macs yet it's  
sometimes good to know that attachments you receive and possibly pass  
on don't have nasty surprises.

Clam does just fine at that.

On 02/11/2009, at 8:30 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 01/11/2009, at 7:26 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for Snow  
Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL  
and I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry



Did your previous subscription ever report the presence and capture  
of any Mac viruses? I didn't think so, because they don't exist in  
any real sense. X5 was just sitting there doing nothing useful and  
consuming processor resources that could have been used for  
something else. There may come a time when software like this might  
become necessary on a Mac, but it hasn't arrived yet.


Save your money.

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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.







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Re: Anti Virus Software

[James / Hans Kunz]

i agree with Peter
my powerbook is on the net for the last 5 years...no virus  
protection at all  still working

James

On 02/11/2009, at 8:30, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 01/11/2009, at 7:26 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Dear All

What is the current recommendation for anti virus programs for  
Snow Leopard?
My update subscription to X5 expired just prior to updating to SL  
and I have not renewed as I would like advice from all the experts.


Thanks

Barry



Did your previous subscription ever report the presence and capture  
of any Mac viruses? I didn't think so, because they don't exist in  
any real sense. X5 was just sitting there doing nothing useful and  
consuming processor resources that could have been used for  
something else. There may come a time when software like this might  
become necessary on a Mac, but it hasn't arrived yet.


Save your money.

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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: Anti Virus Software

[James / Hans Kunz]

i just remembered this:


  The Secunia Weekly Advisory Summary
2009-10-22 - 2009-10-29

   This week: 69 advisories


Table of Contents:

1.Word From Secunia
2This Week In Brief
3...This Weeks Top Ten Most Read Advisories
4..This Week in Numbers


1) Word From Secunia:

Blog: Secunia CSI 3.0 - Final

The Public Beta of the Secunia Corporate Software Inspector (CSI) 3.0
has ended in accordance with our previously announced release schedule,
and the final version of the Secunia CSI 3.0 is now available for
download.

A huge thanks goes out to the over 3,000 people who participated in the
Secunia CSI 3.0 Public Beta, which compared to last year is extremely
great, the public beta of the previous version had 1,600 participants.

Read More:
http://secunia.com/blog/65/



subscribe to this  it's free  keep watching viruses  James



On 02/11/2009, at 9:04, Rob Findlay wrote:



Clam AV X is donation-ware and the latest beta build is Snow  
Leopard compatible.
Even though there may not be danger in the wild for Macs yet it's  
sometimes good to know that attachments you receive and possibly  
pass on don't have nasty surprises.

Clam does just fine at that.




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http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas
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Re: Mac anti-virus / spyware?

[Stephen Chape]

Intego Virus Barrier X4.
Costs but is worth it.

On 11/11/2008, at 8:26 AM, Antony Lord wrote:

Tell me people - what are you using these days for anti-virus / anti- 
spyware on your Macs?


I was using Virex but it was an awful bit of bloatware that I found  
thoroughly annoying.


Would love to hear what's working in the field!

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Subject: Re: Mac anti-virus / spyware?

[Vladimir James]

Using ClamXav 1.1.1 to watch email and downloads on iMac Intel 2.4GHz.  
Been using ClamXav since it appeared. No infections, no special  
problems.


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Mac anti-virus / spyware?

[Antony Lord]

Tell me people - what are you using these days for anti-virus / anti- 
spyware on your Macs?


I was using Virex but it was an awful bit of bloatware that I found  
thoroughly annoying.


Would love to hear what's working in the field!

Cheers, Antony.


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Re: Mac anti-virus / spyware?

[Glenn Nicholas]

I use Google Apps (Gmail) for mail, so that does virus scanning as
well as spam filtering.
Am also Little Snitch user - LS notifies you whenever any application
requests an outgoing network connection (you can set up an approval as
a one off or permanently, or deny one off or permanently). So whenever
any app tries to connect out/phone home, I know.

Glenn.

2008/11/11 Antony Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Tell me people - what are you using these days for anti-virus / anti-spyware
 on your Macs?

 I was using Virex but it was an awful bit of bloatware that I found
 thoroughly annoying.

 Would love to hear what's working in the field!

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Re: Mac anti-virus / spyware?

[Rob Findlay]

I tried out the new version of Clam AV X. Seems to work like a charm  
and it's totally free! (donationware).

http://www.clamxav.com/

Does all the stuff the big boys do now, schedule updates, email  
scanning, watched folders, scheduled scans.


I tried it on a Macbook with a large archive of email in Eudora format  
that had been imported to Entourage. Picked up virus's in both  
databases..


My testing has not been extensive but can't find a reason why why you  
would go past this at the price. On that note I encourage all my  
client if they use something free/donation to make a donation. It  
makes the world go around.


I'd be interested to hear feedback from others as it's going into my  
small list of software that I recommend without reservation to people.

Rob


On 11/11/2008, at 8:26 AM, Antony Lord wrote:

Tell me people - what are you using these days for anti-virus / anti- 
spyware on your Macs?


I was using Virex but it was an awful bit of bloatware that I found  
thoroughly annoying.


Would love to hear what's working in the field!

Cheers, Antony.


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Re: Mac anti-virus / spyware?

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Antony, Rob  WAMUGers,

I recommend Mac users read this entire article by Rich Mogull who is a  
Computer Security Expert first. It is quite informative.
Should Mac Users Run Antivirus Software? - http://db.tidbits.com/article/9511 



**

Re: ClamXav -- I downloaded ClamXav v1.1.1 (185) to test it out.

After Installing ClamXav and installing it's Contextual Menu Item (so  
you can always use it to scan individual files),
one thing I noticed that people want to be careful about is setting  
the Preferences for ClamXav.


In Preferences  General - I would NOT recommend turning on   
Quarantine infected files to: It does give you are warning not to  
use this option if you have set your email to be scanned or watched. I  
suggest your email ( downloads) are probably the most important files  
to be scanning for viruses etc.
If you have Quarantine infected files to a folder turned on. If a  
message in your email mailbox is infected, this option has the  
potential to move your ENTIRE MAILBOX away from where it should be!  
--- i.e. You could loose all your mail from within your Mail  
Application.
You could find it and place it back where it came from, but it's a bit  
of a hassle.


So I DON'T have this option checked, I have checked in General Prefs,  
under Miscellaneous Options - Scan e-mail files  Alert on virus  
detection.


More about Preferences here:
http://www.clamxav.com/index.php?page=prefs

I noticed it was very slow updating it's virus definitions and  
Main.cvd, but it was relatively quick to scan my email and did find 4  
emails which I sent to Trash ( emptied Trash). These were emails I  
had forwarded on to PayPal alerting them to spam mail I was receiving  
some time back.


My conclusions are: If you feel you need Virus Protection on your Mac,  
ClamXav is probably as good as any other and it is free (donation is  
appreciated). Just be aware when setting it's Preferences.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 11/11/2008, at 8:40 AM, Rob Findlay wrote:


I tried out the new version of Clam AV X. Seems to work like a charm  
and it's totally free! (donationware).

http://www.clamxav.com/

Does all the stuff the big boys do now, schedule updates, email  
scanning, watched folders, scheduled scans.


I tried it on a Macbook with a large archive of email in Eudora  
format that had been imported to Entourage. Picked up virus's in  
both databases..


My testing has not been extensive but can't find a reason why why  
you would go past this at the price. On that note I encourage all my  
client if they use something free/donation to make a donation. It  
makes the world go around.


I'd be interested to hear feedback from others as it's going into my  
small list of software that I recommend without reservation to people.

Rob


On 11/11/2008, at 8:26 AM, Antony Lord wrote:

Tell me people - what are you using these days for anti-virus /  
anti-spyware on your Macs?


I was using Virex but it was an awful bit of bloatware that I found  
thoroughly annoying.


Would love to hear what's working in the field!

Cheers, Antony.


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Re: anti virus

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 28/09/2008, at 7:39 AM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


hi everyone
noticed that I'm using the internet more and more,,,is it sensible  
to use anti spyware or  however this stuff  is  called on a mac like  
virusbarrier or other products?


Although it is no longer completely correct to say that there are no  
viruses or malware for Mac OS X, the stuff that does exist is  
extremely rare and invariably requires conscious activity on the part  
of the user to allow it to be installed if you do encounter it. As  
such, none of this stuff can claim to be a true virus. You also  
generally have do visit specific websites and/or download specific  
files even to encounter it.


Is it sensible to use anti spyware software on a Mac? You'll have to  
make your own mind up on this one, but for me the answer at this stage  
is No.  All it serves to do is take up valuable processor cycles in a  
fruitless search for something that doesn't exist in any practical way.


The only exception to all of this is the accursed Microsoft Office  
macro virus. These things CAN attack MS Office documents on the Mac,  
and they are probably the single thing that would justify running anti  
virus software on a Mac. However, if you are not a heavy user of  
Office, or if you are, make sure that you NEVER allow Macros to run  
( advisable on Windows as well - in fact much more so), then even they  
will not be a problem.


If Office viruses do cause you concern, you might like to install  
something like Intego Virusbarrier and run it occasionally. You just  
need to keep it going in the background.


How is it possible to access the Wamug archive as this properbly has  
een asked before

Thanks Martin


See the link below.



Is there a Wamug meeting between 7th and 9th of october in Perth and  
if yes where?


WAMUG meetings are always held on the first Tuesday of the month  
(except January) in the Geology building at Curtin University. Check  
the WAMUG Website for more details.



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Re: anti virus

[John Daniels]

Hi Martin
There is a long article in the Oct Australian Macworld on viruses and
spyware etc. which may help.
Cheers
John


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 hi everyone
 noticed that I'm using the internet more and more,,,is it sensible to
 use anti spyware or  however this stuff  is  called on a mac like
 virusbarrier or other products?
 How is it possible to access the Wamug archive as this properbly has
 een asked before
 Thanks Martin
 
 Is there a Wamug meeting between 7th and 9th of october in Perth and
 if yes where?
 
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anti virus

[Martin Sulkowski]

hi everyone
noticed that I'm using the internet more and more,,,is it sensible to  
use anti spyware or  however this stuff  is  called on a mac like  
virusbarrier or other products?
How is it possible to access the Wamug archive as this properbly has  
een asked before

Thanks Martin

Is there a Wamug meeting between 7th and 9th of october in Perth and  
if yes where?


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Bigpond closing Firewall/anti-spam/anti-virus etc for Macs

[Bill Cole]

Hi !
I received email from bigpond advising that that they are  upgrading  
 their bigpond security Products, but enquiring into this ,as below,  
it appears that they have made no provision for us Mac users as from  
31 March 2008. any Mac users with Bigpond ought to make their  
feelings felt by notifying them that they are  NOT HAPPY 

below is what transpired between myself and them for 
your information

Their email to me ( shortened )
To help us stay on top of an ever-evolving array of internet threats,  
we're upgrading our range of BigPond security products.


As a result of these upgrades, your current BigPond Personal Firewall  
and/or BigPond Anti-Virus protection subscription(s) will no longer  
be available from 31 March 2008.


Instead, they'll be replaced by a single integrated security package  
called the BigPond Security Solution, which you'll be able to  
subscribe to monthly or annually.


My question
at the moment I have your virus/anti spam protection, as from 31  
March 2008 it appears I will have no protection,
what arrangements will you have in place for Mac users, are you  
making any arrangements for Mac users, or will I be left to my own  
devices after being a Bigpond user for lord knows how long !



Their email to me (shortened)
Thank you for your email, my name is !!! and I appreciate you  
taking the time to contact us. I understand that you are querying the  
security services for your BigPond account.


I am more than happy to assist you with this. However, In order for  
me to be able to provide you with the information that you require,  
can you please supply me with the following details so that I can  
validate your identity:


- Full name.
- Street address on your BigPond® account including state and postcode.
- Date of birth.
- Full telephone number including area code.

details sent by me ( I only asked a question-why the above req'd I  
don't know)


Their email to me(shortened)
I have looked into this furgher for you, and can confirm that the  
Internet Security Pack does not run on Apple Mac. I apologie for any  
incovnenience caused as regrettably we do not have a security pack  
that does support Apple Mac


My question
Are there any provisions in the near future to support apple macs, or  
indeed will the security pack be made available to apple users at  
all, and if not WHY not.

Thank you

This is certainly a possibility, and i have sent this feedback  
through to our products team for their consideration. I understand  
that this may be inconvenient and i apologise for this.


Thank you for choosing BigPond.


Well there you have it, if you feel agreived why not send them a  
email, shouldn't we all br treat the same


Sorry its long
Bill



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Re: Anti Virus Software

[Onno Benschop]

Shay Telfer wrote:

ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas Virex 
will attempt to do so in most cases.


It should be pointed out that ClamAV (and the MacOSX and Windows 
versions) don't remove detected virus occurrences for a reason. Their 
FAQ states:


   Can ClamAV disinfect files?

   No, it can't. We will add support for disinfecting OLE2 files in one
   of the next stable releases. There are no plans for disinfecting
   other types of files. There are many reasons for it: cleaning
   viruses from files is virtually pointless these days. It is very
   seldom that there is anything useful left after cleaning, and even
   if there is, would you trust it?


So, while you might choose Virex because it removes infestations, you 
should think about what is happening underneath the hood.



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Re: Anti Virus Software

[Rob Davies]

On 08/08/2005, at 9:20 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:


Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you  
just never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3  
months ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape



ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas  
Virex will attempt to do so in most cases.


But it does give the user an option of automatically removing virus  
into a quarantine folder. So, as to do with as you wish, following  
means of destruction according to virusDB, but it will no longer be  
active.


A reason for ClamXav over others besides cost factor, is it's actual  
virusDB, update procedures, and response time to new outbreaks, check  
the website. http://www.clamav.net


Do not install on Mac OS X server.

Be careful when setting check .mbox do not set with quarantine folder  
active.


Documented in ClamXav. http://www.clamxav.com

I do not let it scan .mbox as I have quarantine active; if I suspect  
an .mbox. I make a copy of said .mbox and drop this into ClamXav. If  
it finds something I can go and remove suspect file without damaging  
the .mbox, and have to spend hours repairing .mbox.



Cheers!
`Rob...

Re: Anti Virus Software

[Shay Telfer]

Shay Telfer wrote:

ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas 
Virex will attempt to do so in most cases.


It should be pointed out that ClamAV (and the MacOSX and Windows 
versions) don't remove detected virus occurrences for a reason. 
Their FAQ states:


   Can ClamAV disinfect files?

   No, it can't. We will add support for disinfecting OLE2 files in one
   of the next stable releases. There are no plans for disinfecting
   other types of files. There are many reasons for it: cleaning
   viruses from files is virtually pointless these days. It is very
   seldom that there is anything useful left after cleaning, and even
   if there is, would you trust it?

So, while you might choose Virex because it removes infestations, 
you should think about what is happening underneath the hood.


I do, and Virex quite happily removes *most* Word macro viruses on 
the Mac, which is good because

* They're pretty much all the viruses that are on the Mac.
* The Word documents are usually what users care about the most.

Do I trust it? As much as I trust ClamAV, even if I can't look at the 
Virex source.


Have fun,
Shay
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Re: Anti Virus Software

[Shay Telfer]

Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you 
just never know.

I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3 months ago.
I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape


ClamXAv will not remove viruses (it just detects them), whereas Virex 
will attempt to do so in most cases.


Have fun,
Shay
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 Perth, Western Australia   Technomancer  Join Team Sungroper in the
 Opinions for hire  [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge
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Re: Anti Virus Software

[subscribe]

Hello Steven,

i have recently moved over to ClamAV and found it to work well and to 
be a fine replacement for products like virex, there was recently a 
problem found with part of ClamAV  that caused Multiple Integer 
Overflow Vulnerabilities however this has been patched - 
http://secunia.com/advisories/16250/


overall i'm pretty happy with ClamAV, one of my primary reasons for 
moving to it  apart from cost was the rumourmill from sophos regarding 
viri for OS X
 it would appear that they dont know a virus from a root exploit, which 
concerns me. Also the ClamAV developers have proved that they are on 
top of problems that occur with ClamAV and are proactive with there 
fixes


cheers

Natas
On 06/08/2005, at 9:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:


Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you just 
never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3 months 
ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape


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Fwd: Anti Virus Software (Something Found)

[Adam Lippiatt]

Hi

I downloaded and used this software and found (amongst other things) a:

Worm.Bagle.Gen-zippwd

in my mbox file in the inbox.

Does anyone know what the mbox file is and is it safe to remove it  
(it seems to appear in most other mailboxes)?


Thanks

Adam

Begin forwarded message:


From: subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 August 2005 10:01:26 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software


Hello Steven,

i have recently moved over to ClamAV and found it to work well and  
to be a fine replacement for products like virex, there was  
recently a problem found with part of ClamAV  that caused Multiple  
Integer Overflow Vulnerabilities however this has been patched -  
http://secunia.com/advisories/16250/


overall i'm pretty happy with ClamAV, one of my primary reasons for  
moving to it  apart from cost was the rumourmill from sophos  
regarding viri for OS X
 it would appear that they dont know a virus from a root exploit,  
which concerns me. Also the ClamAV developers have proved that they  
are on top of problems that occur with ClamAV and are proactive  
with there fixes


cheers

Natas
On 06/08/2005, at 9:42 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:



Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you  
just never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3  
months ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape


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Re: Fwd: Anti Virus Software (Something Found)

[Onno Benschop]

Adam Lippiatt wrote:


Hi

I downloaded and used this software and found (amongst other things) a:

Worm.Bagle.Gen-zippwd

in my mbox file in the inbox.

Does anyone know what the mbox file is and is it safe to remove it  
(it seems to appear in most other mailboxes)?


Thanks

Adam

The file is likely part of an email attachment inside your mail folder. 
You should not delete the mbox because it contains all your mail in that 
folder. A smarter solution is to create a new mail folder, move the 
message to there, then purge your mail folders, then scan again. The 
attachment will now have moved to another file which only has that one 
message inside it.


I should also point out that having a windows virus sitting inside an 
email file won't actually do anything until you save it and open it 
inside Windows, either by transferring it to a Windows machine, or by 
launching a Windows emulator.


In short, you really don't need to worry too much about this particular one.

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Anti Virus Software

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you  
just never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3 months  
ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape

Anti Virus Software - Was: Re: slow formatting and printing in Word

[Onno Benschop]

At 14:21 8/02/02 +0800, Neil Blake  Associates wrote:

turn off Norton Antivirus. What a difference!


What I do for virus software is to:

1. Keep it up to date.
2. Scan the whole machine.
3. Scan any file-server completely.
4. Set the software to only scan when creating files.
5. If you deal with data arriving on disk/cd then scan those as they arrive.

This means that already scanned files don't get re-scanned, you don't scan 
every time you open a file and your machine spends most of its time working 
for you rather than for virus authors.


If you are on a network with other computers, make sure that they also scan 
when things are created, otherwise you could get a virus that transfers 
from an infected computer to your file server and then to you.

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