Re: [Wtr-development] [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.com wrote: I am sorry that the Watir Stack Exchange site did not work out. I am not so sorry. All I wanted is for people to use Stack Overflow software, and looks like it is more used now. I like the idea of encouraging people to use Stack Exchange. I guess you think Stack Overflow. (Stack Exchange is a new site that used software created originally for Stack Overflow.) However, I don't think that we as a community have to choose between using watir-general or stack exchange. We can use both. True. I just think Google groups is better for discussion, and Stack Overflow is *way better* for support. Zeljko, if you personally only want to support Stack Exchange then go for it. I do not have a problem with Google groups, I just think Stack Overflow is *way better* (as I already said). I will still answer questions at both. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [Wtr-development] [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
Hey there. I am just catching up on some emails from when I was on vacation and this is one of them. I am sorry that the Watir Stack Exchange site did not work out. I like the idea of encouraging people to use Stack Exchange. However, I don't think that we as a community have to choose between using watir-general or stack exchange. We can use both. Zeljko, if you personally only want to support Stack Exchange then go for it. I think each of the Sheriffs should also make their own decision about what they want to support. Bret On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: I am giving up on Watir Stack Exchange site (http://bit.ly/watirse). Nobody is voting on the questions. Maybe people are on vacation, or nobody cares. I will concentrate on thinking how to move Watir support to http://stackoverflow.com/ One idea I have: - create a page at watir.com with instructions how to post a question at stackoverflow.com - update http://watir.com/support/ page to say stackoverflow.com is the place for Watir support - send warning message at watir-general that it will be read only for a week - in that week post to watir-general only links to Watir questions at stackoverflow.com - see what happens and decide what to do next Is it too radical? :) Željko ___ Wtr-development mailing list wtr-developm...@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, www.watir.com Blog, www.io.com/~wazmo/blog Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if it was just not clear to people HOW to vote for the example questions? We had enough people over there, but nobody voted. did they not realize what it is they need to do? I think I have said it on the stack exchange site, here at the list and on the podcast a few times. I do not think people did not know what to do. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Chan Nguyen atbl1...@gmail.com wrote: I think Watir should have its own land ( a forum ). Forum as in place to talk about Watir, or as a place to get support? Take a look at this group. How many posts are chat (like this post) and how many are support questions? Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [Wtr-development] [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Alister Scott alister.sc...@gmail.com wrote: I personally dislike the number of complex rules, voting and hierarchy associated with stack exchange stuff. I agree. I think it is made to create a community around a topic. We already have a community, we just need the software. I am happy to support any other options you think will work. Stack Overflow is the way to go. Maybe it would be a better idea to set watir-general so all posts are moderated for a week, and in that week just reply to people to ask at Stack Overflow. After a week, we could decide what to do next. Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Jason Trebilcock jason.trebilc...@gmail.com wrote: There’s a Watir forum on SQAForums. It has all of six Watir-related threads…it might be a interesting destination to switch efforts to. I am not looking for a better software for Watir support. I have found it: http://stackoverflow.com/ Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
Too radical? I don't know. I agree something better is needed, google groups is not well suited to a 'support' type of work, there's no good way to track answered vs unanswered questions, nor which responses ended up being the best answer. Even the MSDN forums that MS has are far better, but I'm not sure if it would be open to us to create a forum there, nor if doing so would cause some kind of knee-jerk allergic reaction OMG it's Microsoft among Mac and Linux users. I created sample questions, and used up all my votes for all three types of question. I wonder if it was just not clear to people HOW to vote for the example questions? We had enough people over there, but nobody voted. did they not realize what it is they need to do? On Aug 13, 8:01 am, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: I am giving up on Watir Stack Exchange site (http://bit.ly/watirse). Nobody is voting on the questions. Maybe people are on vacation, or nobody cares. I will concentrate on thinking how to move Watir support tohttp://stackoverflow.com/ One idea I have: - create a page at watir.com with instructions how to post a question at stackoverflow.com - updatehttp://watir.com/support/page to say stackoverflow.com is the place for Watir support - send warning message at watir-general that it will be read only for a week - in that week post to watir-general only links to Watir questions at stackoverflow.com - see what happens and decide what to do next Is it too radical? :) Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
I think Watir should have its own land ( a forum ). I tried both Selenium, Watin and WebTest, but I'm in love w/ Watir. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.comwrote: Too radical? I don't know. I agree something better is needed, google groups is not well suited to a 'support' type of work, there's no good way to track answered vs unanswered questions, nor which responses ended up being the best answer. Even the MSDN forums that MS has are far better, but I'm not sure if it would be open to us to create a forum there, nor if doing so would cause some kind of knee-jerk allergic reaction OMG it's Microsoft among Mac and Linux users. I created sample questions, and used up all my votes for all three types of question. I wonder if it was just not clear to people HOW to vote for the example questions? We had enough people over there, but nobody voted. did they not realize what it is they need to do? On Aug 13, 8:01 am, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: I am giving up on Watir Stack Exchange site (http://bit.ly/watirse). Nobody is voting on the questions. Maybe people are on vacation, or nobody cares. I will concentrate on thinking how to move Watir support tohttp:// stackoverflow.com/ One idea I have: - create a page at watir.com with instructions how to post a question at stackoverflow.com - updatehttp://watir.com/support/page to say stackoverflow.com is the place for Watir support - send warning message at watir-general that it will be read only for a week - in that week post to watir-general only links to Watir questions at stackoverflow.com - see what happens and decide what to do next Is it too radical? :) Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comwatir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [Wtr-development] [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
I personally don't think what you're proposing is too radical. If people aren't committed, Stack Exchange won't work. I personally dislike the number of complex rules, voting and hierarchy associated with stack exchange stuff. I think it's a bit OTT. I am happy to support any other options you think will work. Cheers, Alister Scott Brisbane, Australia Watir Wiki Master: http://watir.com Blog: http://watirmelon.com Google: http://www.google.com/profiles/alister.scott LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott On 14/08/2010, at 1:01 AM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: I am giving up on Watir Stack Exchange site (http://bit.ly/watirse). Nobody is voting on the questions. Maybe people are on vacation, or nobody cares. I will concentrate on thinking how to move Watir support to http://stackoverflow.com/ One idea I have: - create a page at watir.com with instructions how to post a question at stackoverflow.com - update http://watir.com/support/ page to say stackoverflow.com is the place for Watir support - send warning message at watir-general that it will be read only for a week - in that week post to watir-general only links to Watir questions at stackoverflow.com - see what happens and decide what to do next Is it too radical? :) Željko ___ Wtr-development mailing list wtr-developm...@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
RE: [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
There’s a Watir forum on SQAForums. It has all of six Watir-related threads…it might be a interesting destination to switch efforts to. From: watir-general@googlegroups.com [mailto:watir-gene...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chan Nguyen Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:26 PM To: watir-general@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site! I think Watir should have its own land ( a forum ). I tried both Selenium, Watin and WebTest, but I'm in love w/ Watir. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.com wrote: Too radical? I don't know. I agree something better is needed, google groups is not well suited to a 'support' type of work, there's no good way to track answered vs unanswered questions, nor which responses ended up being the best answer. Even the MSDN forums that MS has are far better, but I'm not sure if it would be open to us to create a forum there, nor if doing so would cause some kind of knee-jerk allergic reaction OMG it's Microsoft among Mac and Linux users. I created sample questions, and used up all my votes for all three types of question. I wonder if it was just not clear to people HOW to vote for the example questions? We had enough people over there, but nobody voted. did they not realize what it is they need to do? On Aug 13, 8:01 am, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote: I am giving up on Watir Stack Exchange site (http://bit.ly/watirse). Nobody is voting on the questions. Maybe people are on vacation, or nobody cares. I will concentrate on thinking how to move Watir support tohttp://stackoverflow.com/ One idea I have: - create a page at watir.com http://watir.com/ with instructions how to post a question at stackoverflow.com http://stackoverflow.com/ - updatehttp://watir.com/support/page to say stackoverflow.com http://stackoverflow.com/ is the place for Watir support - send warning message at watir-general that it will be read only for a week - in that week post to watir-general only links to Watir questions at stackoverflow.com http://stackoverflow.com/ - see what happens and decide what to do next Is it too radical? :) Željko -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:watir-general%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
I was away for a few weeks snorkeling and brewing, but I see Watir community was busy. :) Our Stack Exchange site [1] just got 60th follower! (Thanks to our old friend MarekJ.) But why did not it move from define to commit phase?! (Like Selenium site [2] did some time ago?) The answer is in the top right hand corner of the front page: This proposal is in: Definition. The topic and audience are still being decided. It needs 0 followers, 5 on-topic questions, 5 off-topic questions to move to the next phase. We have 35 example questions, but for a question to count as on- or off-topic, it has to have at least 20 votes (if I got it right by looking other sites). What do you have to do? - go to http://bit.ly/watirse - take a look at the questions (35 of them, it would take you a few minutes) - vote if questions are on- or off-topic (you have 5 votes, so again just a few minutes) If you have the time, you can submit more questions (again up to 5). Thanks a lot to all of you who have contributed to the site. I think it is the best thing that could happen to Watir support. If you want more information, you can listen to a podcast [3] where Felipe and I talk about the site in detail for about an hour. Željko -- [1] http://bit.ly/watirse [2] http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/4693/selenium [3] http://watirpodcast.com/35-zeljko-filipin-on-watir-stack-exchange-site/ -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
Hi all! I'm replying to this again to move it back to the front page at Watir General. Give Zeljko's latest podcast a listen to learn about Stack Exchange and then go sign up and follow the Watir site. We only need 4 more followers to move the Watir Stack Exchange site from the Definition phase to the Commitment phase. If you've ever wondered how to help out or get more involved with the Watir community, this is a good start. I know, I sound like an NPR (that's National Public Radio, for those of you not in the US) host during a pledge drive... But the only way to stop me is to help out with the Stack Exchange site. :) Watir Stack Exchange Site - http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/6738/watir Watir Podcast - www.watirpodcast.com See you there! -Tiffany On Jul 12, 12:32 pm, Tiffany Fodor tcfo...@comcast.net wrote: Zeljko has posted the new podcast. http://watirpodcast.com/ Give it a listen and then head over to the Stack Exchange site and follow it. We only need 13 more followers to move on to the next phase. See you there! -Tiffany On Jul 6, 10:44 am, Tiffany Fodor tcfo...@comcast.net wrote: Hi all! Zeljko has done a great job in getting the Watir Stack Exchange site underway and a lot of folks from the Watir community have helped to build it up. We only need 17 more followers to move from the Definition phase to the Commitment phase. Check out the site and follow it here: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/6738/watir and then watch for the new Watir Podcast where Zeljko and Felipe talk about the benefits of Stack Exchange. -Tiffany -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[wtr-general] Re: Check out the Watir Stack Exchange site!
Zeljko has posted the new podcast. http://watirpodcast.com/ Give it a listen and then head over to the Stack Exchange site and follow it. We only need 13 more followers to move on to the next phase. See you there! -Tiffany On Jul 6, 10:44 am, Tiffany Fodor tcfo...@comcast.net wrote: Hi all! Zeljko has done a great job in getting the Watir Stack Exchange site underway and a lot of folks from the Watir community have helped to build it up. We only need 17 more followers to move from the Definition phase to the Commitment phase. Check out the site and follow it here: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/6738/watir and then watch for the new Watir Podcast where Zeljko and Felipe talk about the benefits of Stack Exchange. -Tiffany -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. You received this message because you are subscribed to http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general To post: watir-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: watir-general+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
