[wdvltalk] Re: Affiliate Program

2002-12-07 Thread Maverick
Hey Mic,

Thanx a lot buddy and what else can i ask for?

Njoy your whisky and thanx for the reply ;-)

You should not make whisky or women to wait. Both do deserve most (110%)
attention  just GIVE it :-)

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 Well Maverick if you can pick up a freebie shopping cart program somewhere
 they have javascript that does it for the cookies, I don't use them myself
 but if you cant find something on google or some of the freeware sites
give
 me an email, I have examples (not tested) in several textbooks that I
could
 transcribe for you.

 Another source, shudder, is the MS Knowledge Library but that can be
 difficult to burrow through. They also have an anonymous FTP site with
lots
 of goodies, I will dig up the reference to that and post it this weekend
 (its Friday night here and the whisky bottle is demanding attention).

 Another place to look would be any university site, hth
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  hey Michael,
 
  I would like to kick start this project and i have to start from
scratch.
 So
  if you can give me some details re this.
 
  This has gone above my head ;-)
 
  thanx for the reply
 
  Maverick
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   Often affiliate programs use cookies to track the referrals from a
   particular site, that is clicking on the banner places an identifying
  cookie
   on the surfers machine, but you might want to go a step further and
log
  the
   machine id when it arrives from an affiliate?
  
   hope that gets you started on the right tracks
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Hey friends,
   
I would like to start an affiliate program where webmasters place
  banners
   of
our games on their sites and we track the sales they generated when
a
visitor to their sites play at our site. Where can i get relevant
  details.
   
Can any one help me? Thanx in advance
   
Rgds
Maverick
   
   
   
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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT} Weekend dabbling SSI any thoughts from the SSI gurus?

2002-12-07 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Michael,

 So far I have:

snip much achievement

Congratulations! I never got my SSI nav bars working :-(

Can we have a link to see it all in action?

 One thing I am dimly groping towards is the ability
 to input page content using the GET or POST method
 somehow, or is this way off base?

Not at all, but I think you're getting beyond SSI and onto server-side
scripting here (but don't panic, it's just the next step, and it's a very
gentle one)

 Question for the SSI gurus out there: any other
 thoughts and directions to look at?
 server Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) PHP/4.1.2
  ^

Have a poke around http://www.php.net/, specifically
http://www.php.net/manual/en/introduction.php

It's kind of like inline-scripting-and-SSI-with-a-twist, and once you've
learnt it you can write fantastic stuff.

Copy and paste this into a blank file, upload it to your server as
something.php, then visit it - it's a *very* basic CMS :-)

---start---

?php

$content = (isset($HTTP_POST_VARS[content]))
  ? $HTTP_POST_VARS[content]
  : hello, world!;

echo h1. $content. /h1;

?

form action=NAME-OF-FILE.php method=post
  textarea name=content?php
echo $content;
  ?/textarea
  input type=submit value=Update CMS /
/form

end

n.b. you need to change NAME-OF-FILE in the form's action.

Cheers
Jon







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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT} Weekend dabbling SSI any thoughts from the SSI gurus?

2002-12-07 Thread michael ensor
Hi Jon, thanks for the reply, comps and tip.See link below, only some
sections are ssi enabled at the moment, [ Information, Recreation, Sports,
but some others are running in parallel, accessed from those sections ] but
as  you won't be able to see the code I will set it  out here.

To get the 'auto selection' you need to define your own variable with a css
selector value:

!--#if expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/arts/ --
 !--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase; background:
aqua;  --
!--#elif=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/abouttown/ --
 !--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase;  background:
yellow;  --
!--#elif expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/festivals/ --
!--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase; background:
#FFB6C1;  --
!--#elif expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/information/ --
!--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase;  background:
yellow;  --
!--#elif expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/music/ --
!--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase; background:
yellow;  --
!--#elif expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/recreation/ --
!--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase; background:
aqua;  --
!--#elif expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/sports/ --
!--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase; background:
white;  --
!--#elif expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/ --
!--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase; background:
aqua;  --
!--#else --
!--#set var=THIS_SECTION value=text-transform: uppercase; background:
transparent;  --

!--#endif --

which is called to the head of the relevant pages thusly:
!--#include virtual=../admin/this_section.shtml --

and the css which I also call with an include :
.recreation { !--#echo var=THIS_SECTION -- }

h6
a  href=../index.html class=index HOME/a |
a href=../abouttown.html class=abouttown About Town/a |
a href=../arts/arts.html class=arts Arts /a |
a href=../features.html class=features Features/a |
a href=../information/information.shtml class=information
Information/a |
a href=../newsindex.html class=newslinks News Links/a |
a href=../recreation/recreation.shtml class=recreation Recreation/a
|
a href=../sports/index.shtml class=sports Sport/a |
a href=../services.html class=services Services/a | a
href=#bottomBottom of Page/a |
/h6

I could have called the whole thing, ie the .section class but I started
by testing the pages manually and as I am bringing in the SSI pages
progressively I find it easier to 'do it by hand'.

For the individual pages similar procedure but my variables will defined by
using something like:

!--#if expr=${DOCUMENT_URI} = /edc/arts/ --
 !--#set var=BG_COLOR value=green --
and
the 'DOCUMENT_NAME'  environment function.

BTW have already started dabbling with php, so the tip is v useful but I
want to see how far I can drive all this first!

Cheers

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[wdvltalk] Re: [OT} Weekend dabbling SSI any thoughts from the SSI gurus?

2002-12-07 Thread michael ensor
For the sake of completeness [ read a slip, grin ] the nav bar is also
called to be the pages thus:

!--#include virtual=../admin/hnav.shtml --

the order of the includes in the individual pages:

1. !--#include virtual=../admin/this_section.shtml -- head must go
first

2. .recreation { !--#echo var=THIS_SECTION -- } headcss

3.!--#include virtual=../admin/hnav.shtml -- body

As I mentioned in the original post the css class could be called to, but at
this stage I am sticking to the KISS principle. Another reason, although
some of the sections have linked global' style sheets there are some css
functions which can overide the nav bar function, so I want the embedded
style sheet to give precedence.



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[wdvltalk] Re: business use of flash

2002-12-07 Thread sherry young
Comments below:

David Blakey wrote:

 The Flash animation is not on HP's home page, of course.  Even those of us
 who oppose ill-thought-out implementations of Flash have pointed out (in my
 case, ad nauseam, I thought)

Guess not. Or I'm particularly deaf. I may have missed those discussions
actually, because I took a several month break.

 that a Flash or similar animation can be useful to make particular points at
 particular times in the visitor's purchasing cycle.  (I have written before
 about the client whose Web developers included a Flash animation of the
 white-board presentation that the client has used successfully to close
 several deals.)  But not on the home page.

If I were sitting through a boring meeting (is there any other kind?) I would
probably welcome a Flash presentation to liven things up. Now that you mention
it, I almost always see Flash used as an intro to a site. And yes, that's part
of the reason I find it annoying. I no sooner hit the place than I have to sit
around and wait for something to load that I now have to wait for it to be over
before I can get down to the business at hand (tortured English, that--sorry).

 The sad factors that may be at work with the many inappropriate Flash
 animations are:

 1.  The company is either run by geeks or allows the geeks free rein.
 2.  The marketing department does not know that the Web is not just another
 form of TV or cinema  advertising.
 3.  The art department does not know the difference between a good graphics
 designer and a good Web designer.

Excellent points. I'm beginning to see perhaps it's inappropriate use of Flash
that I dislike, not Flash itself.

I'm never going to warm up to animated gifs, though. Or music on sites, except
in rare cases.

Thank you for your time.
Sherry



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[wdvltalk] Re: buisness use of flash

2002-12-07 Thread sherry young
See comment below:

michael ensor wrote:

 There is nothing wrong with flash, nor is there anything wrong with using it
 in a business site, a number of the European multinationals do use it quite
 effectively.

I forgot until this discussion came up but here's a site I totally adore:
http://www.10socks.com/10socks.asp?adurl=
I majorly love these people, their product, the entire concept. But then, I hate
to shop.

I've written to them and they are incredibly good humoured, delightful people. I
tune into their site sometimes just to see the little sock show.

Go figure.
Sherry




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[wdvltalk] Re: OT SHERRY and her Browser : WAS Re: Site Check Please -

2002-12-07 Thread sherry young
Sigh. I already throw things at most of my small appliances. Especially the
telly. It continues to ignore me, though.
S.

michael ensor wrote:

 Yes but just think Sherry,

 You will be able to talk back to your internet connected refrigerator [ they
 are starting to advertise them in this part of the world ]



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[wdvltalk] Re: buisness use of flash

2002-12-07 Thread michael ensor
Yes pluses all round for that one, even tho I had to turn on my ActiveX to
view it.

They you note, paid attention to the 8 sec rule you aren't left in limbo,
you have something to look at all the time, and obviously paid attention to
the files sizes!

 add socks to film and formula one, lol

also I second David's wise words, the site I mentioned was the local
fringe festival and they obviously let a very creative person loose on the
gateway page without considering the implications of loading a huge flash
file.
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 I forgot until this discussion came up but here's a site I totally adore:
 http://www.10socks.com/10socks.asp?adurl=
 I majorly love these people, their product, the entire concept. But then,
I hate
 to shop.

 I've written to them and they are incredibly good humoured, delightful
people. I
 tune into their site sometimes just to see the little sock show.

 Go figure.
 Sherry




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[wdvltalk] Re: OT SHERRY and her Browser : WAS Re: Site Check Please -

2002-12-07 Thread michael ensor
Sherry:
but now you will be able to abuse them verbally as well, much more
satisfying and you can send them nasty emails from work.
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Please -


 Sigh. I already throw things at most of my small appliances. Especially
the
 telly. It continues to ignore me, though.
 S.

 michael ensor wrote:

  Yes but just think Sherry,
 
  You will be able to talk back to your internet connected refrigerator
[ they
  are starting to advertise them in this part of the world ]
 


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[wdvltalk] Re: business use of flash

2002-12-07 Thread Ingentus
sherry Excellent points. I'm beginning to see perhaps it's inappropriate
use of Flash that I dislike, not Flash itself.

this, I would agree with 100% and couldn't have said it better.

In the HP case - I have nothing but creative  professional admiration. But
as was said - it's a case of 'right time right place' for Flash to work.

cheers
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[wdvltalk] Re: CMS - opinions please

2002-12-07 Thread michael ensor


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 folks I need your input  opinions again, please :o)

 We've been working out a CMS, firstly for Alan's final year project and
 secondly for my own needs (clients, etc). So anyway... I need to know
your
 opinions on the stuff below  please let me know the stuff you would
change.


 can you follow it  understand what steps you as the user would have to
take
 to update your site?
Yes
 what would you correct/change with the look  feel of the site?
I would change some of the language 'customer moves throught the internet to
your site'
'private gateway'
although I suppose it depends on how much you want to 'dumb it down' for the
client, but if they need a CMS they may need it?, I was thinking along the
lines of your domain is like a trade name or company name, but represents
your internet directory address[telephone number] when expressed as a number
etc., dunno you know your intended targets.
 does the look appeal to you?
too small?
 do the colours appeal to you?
'indifferent' is how I would describe them, they don't do much for me either
way

hth


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[wdvltalk] Re: CMS - opinions please

2002-12-07 Thread Ingentus
Micheal thanks for that :o)

jac.


  folks I need your input  opinions again, please :o)
 
  We've been working out a CMS, firstly for Alan's final year project and
  secondly for my own needs (clients, etc). So anyway... I need to know
 your
  opinions on the stuff below  please let me know the stuff you would
 change.
 
 
  can you follow it  understand what steps you as the user would have to
 take
  to update your site?
 Yes
  what would you correct/change with the look  feel of the site?
 I would change some of the language 'customer moves throught the internet
to
 your site'
 'private gateway'
 although I suppose it depends on how much you want to 'dumb it down' for
the
 client, but if they need a CMS they may need it?, I was thinking along the
 lines of your domain is like a trade name or company name, but represents
 your internet directory address[telephone number] when expressed as a
number
 etc., dunno you know your intended targets.
  does the look appeal to you?
 too small?
  do the colours appeal to you?
 'indifferent' is how I would describe them, they don't do much for me
either
 way

 hth

it does.



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