[wdvltalk] Re: Photoshop Graphics
Hallo Cheryl, --- Cheryl D. Wise / Sonntag 23.02.2003, 22:58:52 Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. ... In Photoshop there is a nice feature (don't know in English). It's on the first Menu (I think it's called 'Files') and below'Save as...' you find a Menu Item 'Save for Web...' or so. Using this option you can play around until you find the right setting. Hope this helps. Have a nice day :) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.63 Beta/3 unter Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) key available at: http://www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Photoshop Graphics
I am always surprised at the visual quality on screen of so little file information. As Eddie points out, with the Save for Web choice on the File menu you have a wide set of choices to play with (probably more with PS 7 than 5.5) and about the same with Image Ready. In the end I find file size (download time) is the bigger factor than quality; and it can even be that different pictures need different formats. Sophisticated as the machines and progams are they are still logical idiots. If you want that quality in print or through computer printer you are into a whole other ballgame, of course. Joseph From: Eddie Castelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo Cheryl, --- Cheryl D. Wise / Sonntag 23.02.2003, 22:58:52 Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. ... In Photoshop there is a nice feature (don't know in English). It's on the first Menu (I think it's called 'Files') and below'Save as...' you find a Menu Item 'Save for Web...' or so. Using this option you can play around until you find the right setting. Hope this helps. Have a nice day :) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.63 Beta/3 unter Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) key available at: http://www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics
Which version of IE are you using? Because I have been using PNG for a couple of years and I believe it worked with IE 5.01 and I know it surely did with 5.5. Scott --- Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft Internet Explorer does not display png format correctly without adding a helper app to the img tag. Aunty, certifiable PSP8 BetaNut Win98SE Celeron400mhz 256MB graphics card: ATI128 RagePro 8mb vmem monitor: pixie700 14in viewable resolution 800x600 24 bit true color - Original Message - From: Scott NVBell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics On another angle (not that I'm an expert or anything), gif is limited to 256 colors. Jpeg is limited to 24-bits(?) [maybe 32-bits or 4.29 billion], but it uses 'lossy' compression -- which means you can perceivably lose picture information. [Side note - PhotoShop will save as jpeg with a range of 'lossy' values of 0 to 10 where 0 is the most lossy. On pictures at 640x480, I can only perceive a loss of quality at about 3 and below.] I think most browsers support the newer png graphics format, which I've heard has more features than jpeg (e.g. transparency). Someone else may want to comment because that's all I know. Hope this helps! Scott -Original Message- From: Cheryl D. Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. That's what I usually do in Fireworks, export for the web, preview in gif jpg at various compression levels until I get one that has the best size/quality ratio and go with that one. If you need transparency you will be limited to gif format for broadest compatibility. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary L Rusinko I am creating some graphics for a website in Photoshop from print screen's techniques. They are in the *.psd format right now, and I was wondering if anyone knew which is the best format to create these in? They are print screen shots from http://www.permadi.com/java/spaint/spaint.html . I created some beautiful mandalas at this location and want to convert them to graphics for a website. Would it be better to have them in a *.jpeg or *.gif? I want to use the format that would save the most information to the graphic without loosing a lot of the detail. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics
I'm using version 6.00.2800.1106 I create graphics, as well as teach a graphics program online. I've test png in both MSIE 6 and mozilla, and NN 7. Even unoptimized versions to not render correctly in MSIE. See http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngstatus.html AuntySpam (Norma) http://www.geocities.com/brewnetty/ http://coastline.cccd.edu/~spcprgms/about.htm http://brewnetty.0catch.com http://www.getrealresults.com Don't be afraid of living ~the alternative is too final. - Original Message - From: Scott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics Which version of IE are you using? Because I have been using PNG for a couple of years and I believe it worked with IE 5.01 and I know it surely did with 5.5. Scott --- Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft Internet Explorer does not display png format correctly without adding a helper app to the img tag. Aunty, certifiable PSP8 BetaNut Win98SE Celeron400mhz 256MB graphics card: ATI128 RagePro 8mb vmem monitor: pixie700 14in viewable resolution 800x600 24 bit true color - Original Message - From: Scott NVBell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics On another angle (not that I'm an expert or anything), gif is limited to 256 colors. Jpeg is limited to 24-bits(?) [maybe 32-bits or 4.29 billion], but it uses 'lossy' compression -- which means you can perceivably lose picture information. [Side note - PhotoShop will save as jpeg with a range of 'lossy' values of 0 to 10 where 0 is the most lossy. On pictures at 640x480, I can only perceive a loss of quality at about 3 and below.] I think most browsers support the newer png graphics format, which I've heard has more features than jpeg (e.g. transparency). Someone else may want to comment because that's all I know. Hope this helps! Scott -Original Message- From: Cheryl D. Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. That's what I usually do in Fireworks, export for the web, preview in gif jpg at various compression levels until I get one that has the best size/quality ratio and go with that one. If you need transparency you will be limited to gif format for broadest compatibility. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary L Rusinko I am creating some graphics for a website in Photoshop from print screen's techniques. They are in the *.psd format right now, and I was wondering if anyone knew which is the best format to create these in? They are print screen shots from http://www.permadi.com/java/spaint/spaint.html . I created some beautiful mandalas at this location and want to convert them to graphics for a website. Would it be better to have them in a *.jpeg or *.gif? I want to use the format that would save the most information to the graphic without loosing a lot of the detail. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms
[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics
Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. That's what I usually do in Fireworks, export for the web, preview in gif jpg at various compression levels until I get one that has the best size/quality ratio and go with that one. If you need transparency you will be limited to gif format for broadest compatibility. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary L Rusinko I am creating some graphics for a website in Photoshop from print screen's techniques. They are in the *.psd format right now, and I was wondering if anyone knew which is the best format to create these in? They are print screen shots from http://www.permadi.com/java/spaint/spaint.html . I created some beautiful mandalas at this location and want to convert them to graphics for a website. Would it be better to have them in a *.jpeg or *.gif? I want to use the format that would save the most information to the graphic without loosing a lot of the detail. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics
Slightly on a tangent - There's some useful Photoshop freebies at http://graphicssoft.about.com , plus good tutorials on other graphics packages too - I've just been looking at masks for decorative edges on photos which I've earmarked as 'might come in handy' on other projects. Franni Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. That's what I usually do in Fireworks, export for the web, preview in gif jpg at various compression levels until I get one that has the best size/quality ratio and go with that one. If you need transparency you will be limited to gif format for broadest compatibility. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary L Rusinko I am creating some graphics for a website in Photoshop from print screen's techniques. They are in the *.psd format right now, and I was wondering if anyone knew which is the best format to create these in? They are print screen shots from http://www.permadi.com/java/spaint/spaint.html . I created some beautiful mandalas at this location and want to convert them to graphics for a website. Would it be better to have them in a *.jpeg or *.gif? I want to use the format that would save the most information to the graphic without loosing a lot of the detail. ï The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM ï To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% -- This email was forwarded via the University of Cambridge alumni email system Visit http://cantab.net/ to update your forwarding details The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics
Microsoft Internet Explorer does not display png format correctly without adding a helper app to the img tag. Aunty, certifiable PSP8 BetaNut Win98SE Celeron400mhz 256MB graphics card: ATI128 RagePro 8mb vmem monitor: pixie700 14in viewable resolution 800x600 24 bit true color - Original Message - From: Scott NVBell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics On another angle (not that I'm an expert or anything), gif is limited to 256 colors. Jpeg is limited to 24-bits(?) [maybe 32-bits or 4.29 billion], but it uses 'lossy' compression -- which means you can perceivably lose picture information. [Side note - PhotoShop will save as jpeg with a range of 'lossy' values of 0 to 10 where 0 is the most lossy. On pictures at 640x480, I can only perceive a loss of quality at about 3 and below.] I think most browsers support the newer png graphics format, which I've heard has more features than jpeg (e.g. transparency). Someone else may want to comment because that's all I know. Hope this helps! Scott -Original Message- From: Cheryl D. Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. That's what I usually do in Fireworks, export for the web, preview in gif jpg at various compression levels until I get one that has the best size/quality ratio and go with that one. If you need transparency you will be limited to gif format for broadest compatibility. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary L Rusinko I am creating some graphics for a website in Photoshop from print screen's techniques. They are in the *.psd format right now, and I was wondering if anyone knew which is the best format to create these in? They are print screen shots from http://www.permadi.com/java/spaint/spaint.html . I created some beautiful mandalas at this location and want to convert them to graphics for a website. Would it be better to have them in a *.jpeg or *.gif? I want to use the format that would save the most information to the graphic without loosing a lot of the detail. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
