[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?
What screen size do you design for? all of them Do you ever use a 'size-sniffer' nope Do you: create expandable tables floating divs to account for resolution differences? yep tables are expandable by default unless you specifically fix them on purpose and who uses tables any more? well, except for data? as for floating divs, it took me almost three years to figure out how to do them so that they don't break my design in modern browsers curious, in those three years, the modern browsers got real good ;o) rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Size matters?
Hi Jim, What screen size do you design for? Liquid design, usually - I try to cover everything from my 240x320 XDA to my 1600x1200 desktop, and things in between and outside. It's pretty straightforward - you just have to use sensibly ordered markup and a stylesheet for positioning in browsers that can handle it. Do you ever use a 'size-sniffer' No :-) Do you: dynamically adjust the page due to sniffer results; No make a duplicate site for the alternative resolutions; or, $DEITY, no, that's a maintenance nightmare create expandable tables floating divs to account for resolution differences? Yep, if expandable tables and floating divs means elements that resize according to the user agent Cheers Jon The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?
I've not made the jump to floating/positioned DIV's yet... most ofmy work is neeed yesterday so I'm still using tables for layout/data. I really need to find some time to start using the DIV/CSS solution. .b -Original Message- From: rudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2003 14:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Size matters? What screen size do you design for? all of them Do you ever use a 'size-sniffer' nope Do you: create expandable tables floating divs to account for resolution differences? yep tables are expandable by default unless you specifically fix them on purpose and who uses tables any more? well, except for data? as for floating divs, it took me almost three years to figure out how to do them so that they don't break my design in modern browsers curious, in those three years, the modern browsers got real good ;o) rudy . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?
Rudy writes: and who uses tables any more? well, except for data? Diane replies: I do. But I'm willing to change. I do know better, but I always balked at the learning curve. Maybe I just bought the wrong books, but I've never been able to get the hang of style sheets - I keep running into absolute positioning requirements which seems counter productive, and tables do still work. Rudy, if you and/or Jon could point me in the right direction, give me some pointers, tell me what to look for, etc. I would appreciate it. Floating divs? This list is still a good place to admit to your ignorance without feeling stupid. Thanks, Diane The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?
This list is still a good place to admit to your ignorance without feeling stupid. Thanks, Diane I heartily agree and wave my Stupid flag :) .b The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?
Rudy, if you and/or Jon could point me in the right direction, give me some pointers, tell me what to look for, etc. I would appreciate it. Floating divs? join the css-discuss discussion list and lurk http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ that site has links to all the authoritative and explanatory resources you need there is also a related beginners css discussion list: css-foundations is a mailing list for discussing the practical issues faced by developers who are new to cascading style sheets. Those who are less experienced with CSS can feel comfortable asking about CSS and standards based web development as it applies to CSS. http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/css-foundations rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters?
During the week of April 7th, West Civ is starting to run it's CSS Level 2 course. This is an excellent resource (even worth purchasing). It provides a thorough enough background to make the standards understandable for plodders like me. http://www.westciv.com/courses/free/index.html When you try to make a stylesheet, keep in mind that in modern browsers you can combine classes and add style statements to the box elements. So generic rules with styles will handle most situations. I've only just started using this approach but I can see how it will clean up a lot of stylesheet issues. drew -Original Message- From: Ben Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Size matters? I've not made the jump to floating/positioned DIV's yet... most ofmy work is neeed yesterday so I'm still using tables for layout/data. I really need to find some time to start using the DIV/CSS solution. .b -Original Message- From: rudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2003 14:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Size matters? What screen size do you design for? all of them Do you ever use a 'size-sniffer' nope Do you: create expandable tables floating divs to account for resolution differences? yep tables are expandable by default unless you specifically fix them on purpose and who uses tables any more? well, except for data? as for floating divs, it took me almost three years to figure out how to do them so that they don't break my design in modern browsers curious, in those three years, the modern browsers got real good ;o) rudy . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% * The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM * To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Size matters? site check
I have made the mistake of using a size sniffer page that sparked the sticky pages topic a few weeks ago, it takes ages to do it's job, although it might be that there is a problem with the code somewhere, I am yet to see it, though I have tried. It sucks up so much time updating the 6 base folders plus the external prototype folders with the same material. I would love to learn about how to manage with style sheets instead of using tables, I seem to be managing my style sheets without any problems these days. So Rudi and Jon I am like Diane if you are handing out pointers I would appreciate some tips too Site is coming along well Diane, well done! Kate - Original Message - From: Diane Schips [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:30 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Size matters? Rudy writes: and who uses tables any more? well, except for data? Diane replies: I do. But I'm willing to change. I do know better, but I always balked at the learning curve. Maybe I just bought the wrong books, but I've never been able to get the hang of style sheets - I keep running into absolute positioning requirements which seems counter productive, and tables do still work. Rudy, if you and/or Jon could point me in the right direction, give me some pointers, tell me what to look for, etc. I would appreciate it. Floating divs? This list is still a good place to admit to your ignorance without feeling stupid. Thanks, Diane . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 18/03/2003 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
