[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-30 Thread mdipierro
{{
response.title=table.name
response.meta.description=table.name
}}

On Dec 30, 6:06 pm, Puntocom  wrote:
> On 13 dic, 05:08, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Michael McGinnis
>
> > Google is capable of figuring out what the page is about most of the
> > time. It's just a bitch about compliance to their guidelines. They
> > seem to have God complex or something. At any rate, it's a good idea
> > to make web2py as automated as possible in this sense. "page title |
> > title" is the form I use on all my stuff (check 
> > outhttp://www.experts4solutions.com/) and proven to work well, and should
> > be the default in templates. I don't remember how description and
> > keywords are assigned, but it's in some global, iirc.
>
> > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
>
> Please, can you share the code to put a different title for each page?
> I'm starting a project and, with this code in the view:
>
> {{
> response.title="{{=table.name}}"
> response.meta.description="{{=table.name}}"
>
> }}
>
> {{extend 'layout.html'}}
>
> I get this error:
>
> SyntaxError: EOL while scanning string literal
>
> Kind regards,
>    Francisco.


[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-30 Thread Puntocom
On 13 dic, 05:08, Branko Vukelic  wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Michael McGinnis
>
> Google is capable of figuring out what the page is about most of the
> time. It's just a bitch about compliance to their guidelines. They
> seem to have God complex or something. At any rate, it's a good idea
> to make web2py as automated as possible in this sense. "page title |
> title" is the form I use on all my stuff (check 
> outhttp://www.experts4solutions.com/) and proven to work well, and should
> be the default in templates. I don't remember how description and
> keywords are assigned, but it's in some global, iirc.
>
> Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/

Please, can you share the code to put a different title for each page?
I'm starting a project and, with this code in the view:

{{
response.title="{{=table.name}}"
response.meta.description="{{=table.name}}"
}}

{{extend 'layout.html'}}

I get this error:

SyntaxError: EOL while scanning string literal

Kind regards,
   Francisco.


Re: [web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Michael McGinnis
 wrote:
> Those are good ideas. Automatically appending the site name at the end
> of each title might be helpful. Or copying the first paragraph as a
> fall-back meta-description (not so sure about that one). Or inserting
> dynamic keywords for each page into the meta keywords. But we also
> have to avoid duplicate content, so we don't want to make things too
> automated. For example, we don't want to make it easy to use the same
> meta description or meta keywords on each page - that sometimes make
> Google think that each page has the same content.

No it doesn't. It just downranks you... which is worse. :)

Google is capable of figuring out what the page is about most of the
time. It's just a bitch about compliance to their guidelines. They
seem to have God complex or something. At any rate, it's a good idea
to make web2py as automated as possible in this sense. "page title |
title" is the form I use on all my stuff (check out
http://www.experts4solutions.com/) and proven to work well, and should
be the default in templates. I don't remember how description and
keywords are assigned, but it's in some global, iirc.

PageRank is mostly dead or dying, but Google probably has something
equally nasty nowadays. The main point of SEO is to just apply the
stuff Google talks about in their webmaster guidelines and to actually
produce good content. There's nothing more to it.

-- 
Branko Vukelić

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stu...@brankovukelic.com

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[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread Michael McGinnis
Those are good ideas. Automatically appending the site name at the end
of each title might be helpful. Or copying the first paragraph as a
fall-back meta-description (not so sure about that one). Or inserting
dynamic keywords for each page into the meta keywords. But we also
have to avoid duplicate content, so we don't want to make things too
automated. For example, we don't want to make it easy to use the same
meta description or meta keywords on each page - that sometimes make
Google think that each page has the same content.

On Dec 12, 11:31 am, Bruno Rocha  wrote:
> OK, I like every comments about 301 redirect, and this is a good tip.
>
> But, I started this post with this subject in mind:
>
> I am thinking on how we can have some helpers, functions, directives or just
>
> > improvements in 'welcome' app to help us follow this SEO tips?
>
> So, how can we develop some helpers to that? is there any chance to have a
> helper or pre-defined configuration is scaffold app?
>
> what about other things like Sitemap.xml, robots.txt, keywords, page titles
> etc.. How can we make it easy to config, how can web2py scafoold help us
> when starting a new project.
>
> I used wordpress for a long time, and there is 'ALL IN ONE SEO TOOLS'
> plugin, this is great, just installs it and nevermind about SEO again.
>
> I want to have such thing in web2py. how?
> --
>
> Bruno Rochahttp://about.me/rochacbruno/bio


Re: [web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread Bruno Rocha
OK, I like every comments about 301 redirect, and this is a good tip.

But, I started this post with this subject in mind:

I am thinking on how we can have some helpers, functions, directives or just
> improvements in 'welcome' app to help us follow this SEO tips?


So, how can we develop some helpers to that? is there any chance to have a
helper or pre-defined configuration is scaffold app?

what about other things like Sitemap.xml, robots.txt, keywords, page titles
etc.. How can we make it easy to config, how can web2py scafoold help us
when starting a new project.

I used wordpress for a long time, and there is 'ALL IN ONE SEO TOOLS'
plugin, this is great, just installs it and nevermind about SEO again.

I want to have such thing in web2py. how?
-- 

Bruno Rocha
http://about.me/rochacbruno/bio


[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread ma...@rockiger.com
+1


PageRank is dying and not what Google really uses.


The www.web2py.com vs web2py.com is a non issue from a search engine
perspective.
You can tell Google Webmaster Tools that web2py.com == www.web2py.com.

[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread GoldenTiger
I just saw Revision b6d1599cd0: changed links from web2py.com to
www.web2py.com

That is not the solution. No needs for changing links manually.
The solution is the 301 redirect --> 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection

With a meta redirect the page with the redirect issues a 200 OK status
and some other mechanism moves the browser over to the new URL. With a
200 OK on both pages, the search engine wants to index both the start
page and the target page
The 301 redirect simply issues a Permanently Moved message in the HTTP
header which tells the search engine to only index the target URL.

Actually if you go to http://web2py.com/*, you are NOT redirected to
http://www.web2py.com/*

I have 301 redirect well done on http://web2py.es  ---> you are
redirected to http://www.web2py.es automatically. Therefore no needs
for changing manually.

this is my .htaccess:
-
AddHandler fcgid-script .fcgi
Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^web2py\.es$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.web2py.es/$1 [R=301,L]
RewriteRule ^dispatch\.fcgi/ - [L]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ dispatch.fcgi/$1 [L]





[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread GoldenTiger
SeoMoz has his own rank: the MozRank, based only on incoming links,
and maybe more accurate, but only for main domain.
Mozrank and pagerank usually have near values



On 12 dic, 10:19, Michael McGinnis  wrote:
> Yes, we ought to standardize on www or non-www, but as GoldenTiger
> implied earlier, the Google Page Rank displayed in toolbars and tools
> has little relationship to the numbers that Google actually uses to
> rank pages. Seomoz is a great resource.
>
> On Dec 11, 8:41 am, GoldenTiger  wrote:
>
> > Yes, there are a few links like that. In fact, the links with higher
> > PR.
>
> > Check all internal pagerank onhttp://www.internalrank.com
>
> >http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/download is PR= 
> >5http://web2py.com/examples/default/download   is PR= 5
>
> > Two links above should be one, so PR could be higher
>
> > On 11 dic, 12:42, "Martin.Mulone"  wrote:
>
> > > There are some links in menu, that point to ex: web2py.com/book, in
> > > web2py mainsite. Perhaps we need to change towww.web2py.com.
>
>


[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-12 Thread Michael McGinnis
Yes, we ought to standardize on www or non-www, but as GoldenTiger
implied earlier, the Google Page Rank displayed in toolbars and tools
has little relationship to the numbers that Google actually uses to
rank pages. Seomoz is a great resource.

On Dec 11, 8:41 am, GoldenTiger  wrote:
> Yes, there are a few links like that. In fact, the links with higher
> PR.
>
> Check all internal pagerank onhttp://www.internalrank.com
>
> http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/download  is PR= 
> 5http://web2py.com/examples/default/download    is PR= 5
>
> Two links above should be one, so PR could be higher
>
> On 11 dic, 12:42, "Martin.Mulone"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > There are some links in menu, that point to ex: web2py.com/book, in
> > web2py mainsite. Perhaps we need to change towww.web2py.com.


[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-11 Thread GoldenTiger
Yes, there are a few links like that. In fact, the links with higher
PR.

Check all internal pagerank on http://www.internalrank.com

http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/download   is PR= 5
http://web2py.com/examples/default/download is PR= 5

Two links above should be one, so PR could be higher



On 11 dic, 12:42, "Martin.Mulone"  wrote:
> There are some links in menu, that point to ex: web2py.com/book, in
> web2py mainsite. Perhaps we need to change towww.web2py.com.


[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-11 Thread Martin.Mulone
There are some links in menu, that point to ex: web2py.com/book, in
web2py mainsite. Perhaps we need to change to www.web2py.com.

[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-10 Thread GoldenTiger
I have a Firefox PageRank toolbar, so I remember the pagerank for my
most visited websites. However, the shown pagerank is outdated (a few
months), and it is not very accurate.
Urltrends displays old recorded stats, when someone checked it time
ago.

http://www.urltrends.com/viewtrend.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fweb2py.com

Google PageRank™: 5/10
Alexa Traffic Rank: 280,156

Incoming Google Links: 222
Incoming Yahoo Links: 1,246
Overall Incoming Links: 2,555 (Overlap is possible - Estimated 954
unique links)
Outgoing Links: 72 (Ratio: 3.083% - Each Link Receives Approx. 0.059
PR)


[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-10 Thread mdipierro
where do you see this?
> Maybe, that's the reason of recent decrease of web2py.com's pagerank
> from 6 to 4.

On Dec 10, 3:17 pm, GoldenTiger  wrote:
> I am thinking about it too.
>
> Concerning Pagerank, the 301 redirection it is important for web2py
> domains.
>
> Google seehttp://web2py.comandhttp://www.web2py.comas different
> domains.
> Maybe, that's the reason of recent decrease of web2py.com's pagerank
> from 6 to 4.
>
> Helpful links about this:
>
> Preferred domain (www or 
> non-www)http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=4...
>
> 301 
> redirectshttp://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=9...


[web2py] Re: SEO Tips & How this can be applied in web2py apps?

2010-12-10 Thread GoldenTiger
I am thinking about it too.

Concerning Pagerank, the 301 redirection it is important for web2py
domains.

Google see http://web2py.com and http://www.web2py.com as different
domains.
Maybe, that's the reason of recent decrease of web2py.com's pagerank
from 6 to 4.

Helpful links about this:

Preferred domain (www or non-www)
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=44231&from=44232&rd=1

301 redirects
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=93633