Re: [web2py] Re: unfair trolling
Nice! You only got haters when you are good :). 2010/3/2 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu The problems are: 1) some of the interactive examples use joins 2) some files are large (like the binary themselves) 3) the book uses full text search It would take some work to port it on GAE so I'd rather pay for now. It may happen anyway. Massimo On Mar 1, 6:21 pm, Richard richar...@gmail.com wrote: could you move to Google App Engine so that there is no cost? mdipierro wrote: Interesting service but the cloud service is $149/month. Right now considering the web2py needs we are at about $45/month. Almost all providers are about the same once you add up ram, storage for backups and monthly bandwidth. Massimo On Mar 1, 11:40 am, Yarko Tymciurak resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com wrote: since there was mention of slicehost.com, just curious is anyone has tried / looked at the newhttp://www.rackspacecloud.com/? It seems to start at about $11/month - Yarko On Feb 28, 3:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comweb2py%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
Having mirrors would be another option. On Feb 28, 4:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
I agree for web2py.com/examples for book and other apps it could be a sinchronization nightmare. I will check if vps.net dns supports this. On Mar 1, 5:33 am, DenesL denes1...@yahoo.ca wrote: Having mirrors would be another option. On Feb 28, 4:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
since there was mention of slicehost.com, just curious is anyone has tried / looked at the new http://www.rackspacecloud.com/ ? It seems to start at about $11/month - Yarko On Feb 28, 3:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
BTW I wouldn't advise combining DNS and webhosting in one single supplier. Much better to have two independent ones. After all, if you have a problem with your webhost (they go bust, dispute, or go down for whatever reason), you may need to switch over to something else without even having to contact them. Just an opinion. --David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
Interesting service but the cloud service is $149/month. Right now considering the web2py needs we are at about $45/month. Almost all providers are about the same once you add up ram, storage for backups and monthly bandwidth. Massimo On Mar 1, 11:40 am, Yarko Tymciurak resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com wrote: since there was mention of slicehost.com, just curious is anyone has tried / looked at the newhttp://www.rackspacecloud.com/? It seems to start at about $11/month - Yarko On Feb 28, 3:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
I just received an email from VPS.net saying that they have been busy upgrading the system to give all clients 50% more RAM and some extra CPU speed, free of charge. That's good news, but maybe that was their upgrade work that disrupted the system on Saturday. (BTW I didn't have any probs, but I use their Europe service). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
I got it too and it is a really good deal. The told me they did not have downtime on Saturday. At this point I cannot completely exclude that it was my fault since I had upgraded on Friday to 1.75.5 and forgot to turn off cron which I know can cause problems with the low memory I have. I have put some more checks in place and a monitoring service. Massimo On Mar 1, 1:31 pm, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote: I just received an email from VPS.net saying that they have been busy upgrading the system to give all clients 50% more RAM and some extra CPU speed, free of charge. That's good news, but maybe that was their upgrade work that disrupted the system on Saturday. (BTW I didn't have any probs, but I use their Europe service). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
Re: [web2py] Re: unfair trolling
On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:39 AM, mdipierro wrote: Interesting service but the cloud service is $149/month. Looks like 10.95 to me (256MB), plus bandwidth. It sort of looks like a rebranding of the slicehost product. Right now considering the web2py needs we are at about $45/month. Almost all providers are about the same once you add up ram, storage for backups and monthly bandwidth. Massimo On Mar 1, 11:40 am, Yarko Tymciurak resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com wrote: since there was mention of slicehost.com, just curious is anyone has tried / looked at the newhttp://www.rackspacecloud.com/? It seems to start at about $11/month - Yarko On Feb 28, 3:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
could you move to Google App Engine so that there is no cost? mdipierro wrote: Interesting service but the cloud service is $149/month. Right now considering the web2py needs we are at about $45/month. Almost all providers are about the same once you add up ram, storage for backups and monthly bandwidth. Massimo On Mar 1, 11:40 am, Yarko Tymciurak resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com wrote: since there was mention of slicehost.com, just curious is anyone has tried / looked at the newhttp://www.rackspacecloud.com/? It seems to start at about $11/month - Yarko On Feb 28, 3:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
The problems are: 1) some of the interactive examples use joins 2) some files are large (like the binary themselves) 3) the book uses full text search It would take some work to port it on GAE so I'd rather pay for now. It may happen anyway. Massimo On Mar 1, 6:21 pm, Richard richar...@gmail.com wrote: could you move to Google App Engine so that there is no cost? mdipierro wrote: Interesting service but the cloud service is $149/month. Right now considering the web2py needs we are at about $45/month. Almost all providers are about the same once you add up ram, storage for backups and monthly bandwidth. Massimo On Mar 1, 11:40 am, Yarko Tymciurak resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com wrote: since there was mention of slicehost.com, just curious is anyone has tried / looked at the newhttp://www.rackspacecloud.com/? It seems to start at about $11/month - Yarko On Feb 28, 3:13 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
trolls are everywhere and yes, this is unfair because this is not web2py's fault. however web2py.com being down for hours? this is not fair too. i remember someone suggesting the community should also run the web site. i suggest instead of the community you can also share the information with one or two of the most active contributors so when you are not around they fix the issues. On 28 Şubat, 14:48, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/b792t/why_is_web2pycom_often_... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
You are right. We may need a community solution. I could give root privileges to a couple of people on this list although the problem is never with the server itself. We have had problems with the DNS when we migrated and we have had problems with the hosting provider. In all of these cases there was nothing I could do and giving access to other people would not have solved the problem. Massimo On Feb 28, 8:43 am, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: trolls are everywhere and yes, this is unfair because this is not web2py's fault. however web2py.com being down for hours? this is not fair too. i remember someone suggesting the community should also run the web site. i suggest instead of the community you can also share the information with one or two of the most active contributors so when you are not around they fix the issues. On 28 Şubat, 14:48, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/b792t/why_is_web2pycom_often_... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
Re: [web2py] Re: unfair trolling
Massimo, you should consider moving to slicehost, I have been running 3 separate slicehost servers for web2py, none of them have ever been down since I purchased the services. Alternatively, if you want cloud hosting, rackspace provides excellent cloud servers in the same datacenters as slicehost. I agree, the issue has been with DNS and the hosting provider, there was not much that anyone else could have done other than stick it on another VPS temporarily. I also suggest adding a note explaining this situation at the top of web2py.com and web2py.com/book in big red letters with a grey background... at least the trolls will have to find something else to complain about. -Thadeus On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: You are right. We may need a community solution. I could give root privileges to a couple of people on this list although the problem is never with the server itself. We have had problems with the DNS when we migrated and we have had problems with the hosting provider. In all of these cases there was nothing I could do and giving access to other people would not have solved the problem. Massimo On Feb 28, 8:43 am, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: trolls are everywhere and yes, this is unfair because this is not web2py's fault. however web2py.com being down for hours? this is not fair too. i remember someone suggesting the community should also run the web site. i suggest instead of the community you can also share the information with one or two of the most active contributors so when you are not around they fix the issues. On 28 Şubat, 14:48, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/b792t/why_is_web2pycom_often_... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
Re: [web2py] Re: unfair trolling
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win -- Kuba -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
+1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. On Feb 28, 9:03 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: Massimo, you should consider moving to slicehost, I have been running 3 separate slicehost servers for web2py, none of them have ever been down since I purchased the services. Alternatively, if you want cloud hosting, rackspace provides excellent cloud servers in the same datacenters as slicehost. I agree, the issue has been with DNS and the hosting provider, there was not much that anyone else could have done other than stick it on another VPS temporarily. I also suggest adding a note explaining this situation at the top of web2py.com and web2py.com/book in big red letters with a grey background... at least the trolls will have to find something else to complain about. -Thadeus On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: You are right. We may need a community solution. I could give root privileges to a couple of people on this list although the problem is never with the server itself. We have had problems with the DNS when we migrated and we have had problems with the hosting provider. In all of these cases there was nothing I could do and giving access to other people would not have solved the problem. Massimo On Feb 28, 8:43 am, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: trolls are everywhere and yes, this is unfair because this is not web2py's fault. however web2py.com being down for hours? this is not fair too. i remember someone suggesting the community should also run the web site. i suggest instead of the community you can also share the information with one or two of the most active contributors so when you are not around they fix the issues. On 28 Şubat, 14:48, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/b792t/why_is_web2pycom_often_... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
I followed your advice and for now I a message. I could move to slice host but not today. I will try later tonight or tomorrow. I just landed from India and still need some time to shower, unpack, rest. Massimo On Feb 28, 9:18 am, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. On Feb 28, 9:03 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: Massimo, you should consider moving to slicehost, I have been running 3 separate slicehost servers for web2py, none of them have ever been down since I purchased the services. Alternatively, if you want cloud hosting, rackspace provides excellent cloud servers in the same datacenters as slicehost. I agree, the issue has been with DNS and the hosting provider, there was not much that anyone else could have done other than stick it on another VPS temporarily. I also suggest adding a note explaining this situation at the top of web2py.com and web2py.com/book in big red letters with a grey background... at least the trolls will have to find something else to complain about. -Thadeus On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: You are right. We may need a community solution. I could give root privileges to a couple of people on this list although the problem is never with the server itself. We have had problems with the DNS when we migrated and we have had problems with the hosting provider. In all of these cases there was nothing I could do and giving access to other people would not have solved the problem. Massimo On Feb 28, 8:43 am, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: trolls are everywhere and yes, this is unfair because this is not web2py's fault. however web2py.com being down for hours? this is not fair too. i remember someone suggesting the community should also run the web site. i suggest instead of the community you can also share the information with one or two of the most active contributors so when you are not around they fix the issues. On 28 Şubat, 14:48, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/b792t/why_is_web2pycom_often_... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
Re: [web2py] Re: unfair trolling
On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
This is obvious but also don't turn the old server off until dns has fully propagated and users shouldn't notice the transition. 48hrs usually but 72 to be sure. On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
Linode is faster and more friendly. They aren't owned by a big conglomerate like rackspace so you will get personal support and they will take a vested interest in keeping the web2py site up. You should consider emailing them, they may even give you a free instance if you recommend Linode for web2py deployment. On Feb 28, 8:43 am, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I followed your advice and for now I a message. I could move to slice host but not today. I will try later tonight or tomorrow. I just landed from India and still need some time to shower, unpack, rest. Massimo On Feb 28, 9:18 am, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. On Feb 28, 9:03 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: Massimo, you should consider moving to slicehost, I have been running 3 separate slicehost servers for web2py, none of them have ever been down since I purchased the services. Alternatively, if you want cloud hosting, rackspace provides excellent cloud servers in the same datacenters as slicehost. I agree, the issue has been with DNS and the hosting provider, there was not much that anyone else could have done other than stick it on another VPS temporarily. I also suggest adding a note explaining this situation at the top of web2py.com and web2py.com/book in big red letters with a grey background... at least the trolls will have to find something else to complain about. -Thadeus On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: You are right. We may need a community solution. I could give root privileges to a couple of people on this list although the problem is never with the server itself. We have had problems with the DNS when we migrated and we have had problems with the hosting provider. In all of these cases there was nothing I could do and giving access to other people would not have solved the problem. Massimo On Feb 28, 8:43 am, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: trolls are everywhere and yes, this is unfair because this is not web2py's fault. however web2py.com being down for hours? this is not fair too. i remember someone suggesting the community should also run the web site. i suggest instead of the community you can also share the information with one or two of the most active contributors so when you are not around they fix the issues. On 28 Şubat, 14:48, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/b792t/why_is_web2pycom_often_... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
Re: [web2py] Re: unfair trolling
On Feb 28, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Kevin Bowling wrote: Linode is faster and more friendly. They aren't owned by a big conglomerate like rackspace so you will get personal support and they will take a vested interest in keeping the web2py site up. You should consider emailing them, they may even give you a free instance if you recommend Linode for web2py deployment. If you do move to slicehost, at the very least ask for a mention of web2py along with Django: http://www.slicehost.com/our-servers/ On Feb 28, 8:43 am, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I followed your advice and for now I a message. I could move to slice host but not today. I will try later tonight or tomorrow. I just landed from India and still need some time to shower, unpack, rest. Massimo On Feb 28, 9:18 am, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. On Feb 28, 9:03 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: Massimo, you should consider moving to slicehost, I have been running 3 separate slicehost servers for web2py, none of them have ever been down since I purchased the services. Alternatively, if you want cloud hosting, rackspace provides excellent cloud servers in the same datacenters as slicehost. I agree, the issue has been with DNS and the hosting provider, there was not much that anyone else could have done other than stick it on another VPS temporarily. I also suggest adding a note explaining this situation at the top of web2py.com and web2py.com/book in big red letters with a grey background... at least the trolls will have to find something else to complain about. -Thadeus On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: You are right. We may need a community solution. I could give root privileges to a couple of people on this list although the problem is never with the server itself. We have had problems with the DNS when we migrated and we have had problems with the hosting provider. In all of these cases there was nothing I could do and giving access to other people would not have solved the problem. Massimo On Feb 28, 8:43 am, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: trolls are everywhere and yes, this is unfair because this is not web2py's fault. however web2py.com being down for hours? this is not fair too. i remember someone suggesting the community should also run the web site. i suggest instead of the community you can also share the information with one or two of the most active contributors so when you are not around they fix the issues. On 28 Şubat, 14:48, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/b792t/why_is_web2pycom_often_... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: unfair trolling
I moved because vps.net was cheaper and had automatic daily weakly and monthly backup. Except for the fact that vps.net seems to be down on Saturdays I am very happy with their support. They answer emails immediately and are helpful. They also provide ready made VMs from TurnKey Linux and was working on making a web2py one. I am not completely ready to give up on them but I will seek some explanations. Massimo On Feb 28, 11:29 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:18 AM, mr.freeze wrote: +1 for slicehost and +1 for putting a message on web2py.com. Something like: We've been growing! As a result, we have had to move this site to another host. Please excuse any recent downtime. I don't have a useful opinion on hosting (I can't remember why you moved from EC2, either). But I do have one suggestion: shorten your DNS TTL well before you move again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
