Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-10-31 Thread Marcelo Huerta
El jueves, 18 de agosto de 2016, 16:44:05 (UTC-3), Massimo Di Pierro 
escribió:
>
> It is possible. web3py is code name for experimental stuff. Mostly new 
> form/grid logic that will be backported to web2py.
>
>
I read somewhere that you are thinking of ditching SQLFORM (and, I assume, 
the derived classes)...
How would those be replaced? In some cases, a single call to SQLFORM.grid 
would be the whole logic of a controller. What would replace this?

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-09-07 Thread Paolo Valleri
Current master branch passes almost all unittests on python 3.5.
If anyone is interested in helping with the final steps, a checklist is 
here https://github.com/web2py/web2py/issues/1353#issue-159010482

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 5:43:55 AM UTC+2, jjs0sbw wrote:
>
> I agree that a better test environment is necessary...
>
> In the next few months I will be starting a project with web2py --- or 
> whatever -- 
>
> A standard test approach and environment will be the first item to be 
> addressed..
>
> What are the basic requirements for a test environment
>
> What needs to be done first..?
>
> Take care and have fun,
>
> Joe 
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Matheus Cardoso  > wrote:
>
>> I think the name is the least of our problems. We should debate about 
>> what is missing to achieve this "web3py", how many people its demands to 
>> accomplish this new framework, main features, such as test environment 
>> (!!!), server side rendering or not, etc. 
>>
>> On Friday, October 25, 2013 at 11:26:36 PM UTC-3, elguavas wrote:
>>>
>>> hi there,
>>>
>>> i've seen peppered throughout this list references to "web3py". i seems 
>>> like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
>>> also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
>>> is this web3py and what's its current state? 
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> e.
>>>
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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-09-05 Thread joseph simpson
I agree that a better test environment is necessary...

In the next few months I will be starting a project with web2py --- or
whatever --

A standard test approach and environment will be the first item to be
addressed..

What are the basic requirements for a test environment

What needs to be done first..?

Take care and have fun,

Joe

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Matheus Cardoso 
wrote:

> I think the name is the least of our problems. We should debate about what
> is missing to achieve this "web3py", how many people its demands to
> accomplish this new framework, main features, such as test environment
> (!!!), server side rendering or not, etc.
>
> On Friday, October 25, 2013 at 11:26:36 PM UTC-3, elguavas wrote:
>>
>> hi there,
>>
>> i've seen peppered throughout this list references to "web3py". i seems
>> like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i
>> also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where
>> is this web3py and what's its current state?
>>
>> thanks,
>> e.
>>
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[web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-09-05 Thread Matheus Cardoso
I think the name is the least of our problems. We should debate about what 
is missing to achieve this "web3py", how many people its demands to 
accomplish this new framework, main features, such as test environment 
(!!!), server side rendering or not, etc. 

On Friday, October 25, 2013 at 11:26:36 PM UTC-3, elguavas wrote:
>
> hi there,
>
> i've seen peppered throughout this list references to "web3py". i seems 
> like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
> also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
> is this web3py and what's its current state? 
>
> thanks,
> e.
>
>

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-09-05 Thread António Ramos
There it goes again another endless round of names

Why the hell do we need "py" in the name ? Is that really necessary? why?
I think if we forget "py" we may find a lot of nice names and forget a lot
of bad ones.

For example:

Call it Massimo or Pierro... Its what it is in the end right?
And yes, Massimo deserves it.




2016-09-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 Pbop :

> I recommend AbilityPy. People want a framework with rich abilities. The Py
> gives a nod that this is a python framework (with abilities). Ability
> preceding Py ensures the framework is at the top of any list of frameworks
> given the alpha sort of A+B for AbilityPy.  The domain is also available
> last I checked.
>
> On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 12:43:10 AM UTC-4, Joe Barnhart wrote:
>>
>> I say pick a new, random name that says nothing about "web" or "python".
>> In Marketing, they like to pick names with no pre-defined meaning and then
>> "define" it to mean what they want.
>>
>> Just choose a name that is easy to pronounce for non-English speakers and
>> has a short, catchy sound.  Google it to make sure it doesn't exist
>> anywhere and then copyright the sucker.
>>
>> Example:  "Cozool"
>>
>> Means nothing.  One entry defines it as a synonym for "cool" in urban
>> dictionary.  One detraction is the "L" may be a little harder to pronounce
>> by Asians, who typically have difficulty with that English phoneme.
>>
>> -- Joe
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:44:05 PM UTC-7, Massimo Di Pierro
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is possible. web3py is code name for experimental stuff. Mostly new
>>> form/grid logic that will be backported to web2py.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:09:43 UTC-5, Jason Solack wrote:

 I saw a post on the developer forum that the newer version of web2py
 was mostly Python 3 compatible... Is it possible that there won't be a need
 for web3py?
>>>
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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-09-05 Thread Pbop
I recommend AbilityPy. People want a framework with rich abilities. The Py 
gives a nod that this is a python framework (with abilities). Ability 
preceding Py ensures the framework is at the top of any list of frameworks 
given the alpha sort of A+B for AbilityPy.  The domain is also available 
last I checked. 

On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 12:43:10 AM UTC-4, Joe Barnhart wrote:
>
> I say pick a new, random name that says nothing about "web" or "python". 
>  In Marketing, they like to pick names with no pre-defined meaning and then 
> "define" it to mean what they want.
>
> Just choose a name that is easy to pronounce for non-English speakers and 
> has a short, catchy sound.  Google it to make sure it doesn't exist 
> anywhere and then copyright the sucker.
>
> Example:  "Cozool"
>
> Means nothing.  One entry defines it as a synonym for "cool" in urban 
> dictionary.  One detraction is the "L" may be a little harder to pronounce 
> by Asians, who typically have difficulty with that English phoneme.
>
> -- Joe
>
> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:44:05 PM UTC-7, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>
>> It is possible. web3py is code name for experimental stuff. Mostly new 
>> form/grid logic that will be backported to web2py.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:09:43 UTC-5, Jason Solack wrote:
>>>
>>> I saw a post on the developer forum that the newer version of web2py was 
>>> mostly Python 3 compatible... Is it possible that there won't be a need for 
>>> web3py?
>>
>>

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-09-02 Thread Joe Barnhart
I say pick a new, random name that says nothing about "web" or "python". 
 In Marketing, they like to pick names with no pre-defined meaning and then 
"define" it to mean what they want.

Just choose a name that is easy to pronounce for non-English speakers and 
has a short, catchy sound.  Google it to make sure it doesn't exist 
anywhere and then copyright the sucker.

Example:  "Cozool"

Means nothing.  One entry defines it as a synonym for "cool" in urban 
dictionary.  One detraction is the "L" may be a little harder to pronounce 
by Asians, who typically have difficulty with that English phoneme.

-- Joe

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:44:05 PM UTC-7, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> It is possible. web3py is code name for experimental stuff. Mostly new 
> form/grid logic that will be backported to web2py.
>
> On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:09:43 UTC-5, Jason Solack wrote:
>>
>> I saw a post on the developer forum that the newer version of web2py was 
>> mostly Python 3 compatible... Is it possible that there won't be a need for 
>> web3py?
>
>

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-08-18 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
It is possible. web3py is code name for experimental stuff. Mostly new 
form/grid logic that will be backported to web2py.

On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:09:43 UTC-5, Jason Solack wrote:
>
> I saw a post on the developer forum that the newer version of web2py was 
> mostly Python 3 compatible... Is it possible that there won't be a need for 
> web3py?

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-08-17 Thread Jason Solack
I saw a post on the developer forum that the newer version of web2py was mostly 
Python 3 compatible... Is it possible that there won't be a need for web3py?

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2016-08-16 Thread fabio . filhossi
Neither do I. I really like this name !! 
So, Massimo, has this project been developing yet?


On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 9:45:34 PM UTC-2, JorgeH wrote:
>
> I don't have any problem with the name whatsoever. I like it. 
>
> On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:54:58 PM UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>
>> I never liked the name either. The original name was Gluon but somebody 
>> threatened to sue me for trademark infringement (which was not the case) 
>> and I had to change it in a hurry. Not a joke.
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>> On Monday, 19 January 2015 12:17:44 UTC-6, Ramos wrote:
>>>
>>> i personally hate the name. In contrast with how much i like the 
>>> framework.
>>>
>>> Its a phrase compacted in a single word. 
>>>
>>> People are confusing its name with python versions.
>>>
>>> Now for a one million dollar question:
>>>
>>> what does it mean:
>>>
>>> Web2py3 ?
>>> web3py2  ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> António
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-01-19 17:05 GMT+00:00 Tito Garrido :
>>>
 I wouldn't change the name at all... Because it is not related to 
 python version lets just stay with web2py :)

 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Massimo Di Pierro <
 massimo@gmail.com> wrote:

> py4web?
>
>
> On Sunday, 18 January 2015 15:22:10 UTC-6, Michele Comitini wrote:
>>
>> the 3 in web3py is not related to python3, just as the 2 was not 
>> related to python2.
>>
>> We could skip the 3 and use 4 which is much more meaningful :-)
>>
>> look:
>> web 2(to) py
>> web 4(for) py
>>
>> and compare:
>> web 3(???) py??
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-01-17 7:22 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro :
>>
>>> Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It 
>>> works for us. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I 
 want to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py 
 is 
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be 
 seamless, 
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I 
 will 
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip 
 of 
 Python like what I have in PHP & C++, and as my kids are growing up, I 
 may 
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di 
 Pierro wrote:
>
> I would not say it is the main "problem". It should be easy to do. 
> It was done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
> It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. 
> We already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
> After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all 
> drivers work with python 3.
>
> Massimo
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:
>>
>>
>> the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x
>>
>> El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas 
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> hi there,
>>>
>>> i've seen peppered throughout this list references to "web3py". 
>>> i seems like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at 
>>> this stage, 
>>> but i also see references to work being pulled into web2py from 
>>> web3py...  
>>> where is this web3py and what's its current state? 
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> e.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Resources:
>>> - http://web2py.com
>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
>>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues)
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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-19 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I never liked the name either. The original name was Gluon but somebody 
threatened to sue me for trademark infringement (which was not the case) 
and I had to change it in a hurry. Not a joke.

Massimo

On Monday, 19 January 2015 12:17:44 UTC-6, Ramos wrote:

 i personally hate the name. In contrast with how much i like the framework.

 Its a phrase compacted in a single word. 

 People are confusing its name with python versions.

 Now for a one million dollar question:

 what does it mean:

 Web2py3 ?
 web3py2  ?



 Regards
 António






 2015-01-19 17:05 GMT+00:00 Tito Garrido titogarr...@gmail.com:

 I wouldn't change the name at all... Because it is not related to python 
 version lets just stay with web2py :)

 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Massimo Di Pierro 
 massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote:

 py4web?


 On Sunday, 18 January 2015 15:22:10 UTC-6, Michele Comitini wrote:

 the 3 in web3py is not related to python3, just as the 2 was not 
 related to python2.

 We could skip the 3 and use 4 which is much more meaningful :-)

 look:
 web 2(to) py
 web 4(for) py

 and compare:
 web 3(???) py??



 2015-01-17 7:22 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com
 :

 Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It works 
 for us. ;-)


 On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I 
 want to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py 
 is 
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be 
 seamless, 
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will 
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip of 
 Python like what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I 
 may 
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro 
 wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. 
 It was done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We 
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all 
 drivers work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i 
 seems like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this 
 stage, 
 but i also see references to work being pulled into web2py from 
 web3py...  
 where is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-19 Thread JorgeH
I don't have any problem with the name whatsoever. I like it. 

On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:54:58 PM UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

 I never liked the name either. The original name was Gluon but somebody 
 threatened to sue me for trademark infringement (which was not the case) 
 and I had to change it in a hurry. Not a joke.

 Massimo

 On Monday, 19 January 2015 12:17:44 UTC-6, Ramos wrote:

 i personally hate the name. In contrast with how much i like the 
 framework.

 Its a phrase compacted in a single word. 

 People are confusing its name with python versions.

 Now for a one million dollar question:

 what does it mean:

 Web2py3 ?
 web3py2  ?



 Regards
 António






 2015-01-19 17:05 GMT+00:00 Tito Garrido titog...@gmail.com javascript:
 :

 I wouldn't change the name at all... Because it is not related to python 
 version lets just stay with web2py :)

 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Massimo Di Pierro 
 massimo@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 py4web?


 On Sunday, 18 January 2015 15:22:10 UTC-6, Michele Comitini wrote:

 the 3 in web3py is not related to python3, just as the 2 was not 
 related to python2.

 We could skip the 3 and use 4 which is much more meaningful :-)

 look:
 web 2(to) py
 web 4(for) py

 and compare:
 web 3(???) py??



 2015-01-17 7:22 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo@gmail.com 
 javascript::

 Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It works 
 for us. ;-)


 On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I 
 want to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py 
 is 
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be 
 seamless, 
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will 
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip 
 of 
 Python like what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I 
 may 
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro 
 wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. 
 It was done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We 
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all 
 drivers work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas 
 escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i 
 seems like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this 
 stage, 
 but i also see references to work being pulled into web2py from 
 web3py...  
 where is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-19 Thread Tito Garrido
I wouldn't change the name at all... Because it is not related to python
version lets just stay with web2py :)

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Massimo Di Pierro 
massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote:

 py4web?


 On Sunday, 18 January 2015 15:22:10 UTC-6, Michele Comitini wrote:

 the 3 in web3py is not related to python3, just as the 2 was not related
 to python2.

 We could skip the 3 and use 4 which is much more meaningful :-)

 look:
 web 2(to) py
 web 4(for) py

 and compare:
 web 3(???) py??



 2015-01-17 7:22 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com:

 Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It works
 for us. ;-)


 On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I
 want to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py is
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be seamless,
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip of
 Python like what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I may
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro
 wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. It
 was done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all drivers
 work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i
 seems like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this 
 stage,
 but i also see references to work being pulled into web2py from 
 web3py...
 where is this web3py and what's its current state?

 thanks,
 e.

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-19 Thread António Ramos
i personally hate the name. In contrast with how much i like the framework.

Its a phrase compacted in a single word.

People are confusing its name with python versions.

Now for a one million dollar question:

what does it mean:

Web2py3 ?
web3py2  ?



Regards
António






2015-01-19 17:05 GMT+00:00 Tito Garrido titogarr...@gmail.com:

 I wouldn't change the name at all... Because it is not related to python
 version lets just stay with web2py :)

 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Massimo Di Pierro 
 massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote:

 py4web?


 On Sunday, 18 January 2015 15:22:10 UTC-6, Michele Comitini wrote:

 the 3 in web3py is not related to python3, just as the 2 was not related
 to python2.

 We could skip the 3 and use 4 which is much more meaningful :-)

 look:
 web 2(to) py
 web 4(for) py

 and compare:
 web 3(???) py??



 2015-01-17 7:22 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com
 :

 Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It works
 for us. ;-)


 On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I
 want to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py is
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be seamless,
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip of
 Python like what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I may
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro
 wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. It
 was done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all
 drivers work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i
 seems like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this 
 stage,
 but i also see references to work being pulled into web2py from 
 web3py...
 where is this web3py and what's its current state?

 thanks,
 e.

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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-18 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
py4web?

On Sunday, 18 January 2015 15:22:10 UTC-6, Michele Comitini wrote:

 the 3 in web3py is not related to python3, just as the 2 was not related 
 to python2.

 We could skip the 3 and use 4 which is much more meaningful :-)

 look:
 web 2(to) py
 web 4(for) py

 and compare:
 web 3(???) py??



 2015-01-17 7:22 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com:

 Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It works for 
 us. ;-)


 On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I want 
 to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py is 
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be seamless, 
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will 
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip of 
 Python like what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I may 
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro 
 wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. It 
 was done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We 
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all drivers 
 work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i 
 seems like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this 
 stage, 
 but i also see references to work being pulled into web2py from 
 web3py...  
 where is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.

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 - http://web2py.com
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Re: [web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-18 Thread Michele Comitini
the 3 in web3py is not related to python3, just as the 2 was not related to
python2.

We could skip the 3 and use 4 which is much more meaningful :-)

look:
web 2(to) py
web 4(for) py

and compare:
web 3(???) py??



2015-01-17 7:22 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com:

 Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It works for
 us. ;-)


 On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I want
 to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py is
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be seamless,
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip of
 Python like what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I may
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro
 wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. It
 was done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all drivers
 work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i
 seems like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage,
 but i also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...
 where is this web3py and what's its current state?

 thanks,
 e.

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[web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-16 Thread Manny Felicio
Hi Massimo,

How are you?

I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I want to 
use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py is already 
on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be seamless, if let's 
say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will upgrade my 
application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip of Python like 
what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I may have time to 
help with your project for the benefit of all.

Thank you very much for your support.

Regards,

Manny

On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. It was 
 done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We 
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all drivers 
 work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i seems 
 like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
 also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
 is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.



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[web2py] Re: web3py status

2015-01-16 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Nothing anytime soon. Stick with web2py if it works for you. It works for 
us. ;-)

On Friday, 16 January 2015 09:56:32 UTC-6, Manny Felicio wrote:

 Hi Massimo,

 How are you?

 I will be starting a new project, so far I think for may reasons, I want 
 to use Python and I like the style of your Web2py.  Since, Web3py is 
 already on the air for Python 3 support, Do you think it will be seamless, 
 if let's say, I will use web2py now then when web3py is released I will 
 upgrade my application? I am also thinking when I can get a full grip of 
 Python like what I have in PHP  C++, and as my kids are growing up, I may 
 have time to help with your project for the benefit of all.

 Thank you very much for your support.

 Regards,

 Manny

 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

 I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. It was 
 done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
 It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We 
 already use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
 After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all drivers 
 work with python 3.

 Massimo





 On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i seems 
 like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
 also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
 is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.



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[web2py] Re: web3py status

2013-10-26 Thread samuel bonill

the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i seems 
 like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
 also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
 is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.



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[web2py] Re: web3py status

2013-10-26 Thread elguavas
ok. does the dal make large scale use of some particular py2 idioms? 

is it a strings (unicode in py3) vs bytes problem? 

is there a work in progress of this or anything else in web3py anywhere?

seems like it will be unlikely to eventuate or progress if there is no work 
relating to this in any official repository, or even an official place for 
the work to start...


On Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:06:33 AM UTC+11, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i seems 
 like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
 also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
 is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.



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[web2py] Re: web3py status

2013-10-26 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I would not say it is the main problem. It should be easy to do. It was 
done once already my Mariano for an earlier version.
It is just that nobody has shown must interest in helping do it. We already 
use a a python 3 compatible syntax.
After this is converted it needs testing and I am not sure all drivers work 
with python 3.

Massimo





On Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:06:33 UTC-5, samuel bonill wrote:


 the main problem is porting dal.py to python 3.x

 El viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas escribió:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i seems 
 like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
 also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
 is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.



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[web2py] Re: web3py status

2013-10-25 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I am sorry to day not much has happened. :-(

On Friday, 25 October 2013 21:26:36 UTC-5, elguavas wrote:

 hi there,

 i've seen peppered throughout this list references to web3py. i seems 
 like it's mostly the unofficial name of of a concept at this stage, but i 
 also see references to work being pulled into web2py from web3py...  where 
 is this web3py and what's its current state? 

 thanks,
 e.



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- http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
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