Re: Direct to WebServices Work at all?
that's one for anjo ... i've never used them. Me neither, but in case you still have the WebServicesAssistant, you can open the package and start it manually. Be aware that D2WS doesn't work with ERD2W for some reason or other. Cheers, Anjo Am 20.01.2010 um 05:08 schrieb Mike Schrag: that's one for anjo ... i've never used them. i remember he looked at them about a year ago and said something about how it seemed pretty slick (the framework, not the gui). maybe he can comment tomorrow ... ms On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Mat Johnson wrote: Mike, I created the D2WS project and realized that the WebServicesAssistant didn't work so I manually created the rules via Rule Modeler but with no luck. If this should work then I'd better figure out what could be wrong with my rules. Do you think this method is worth pursuing? Thanks. I think D2WS with WebServicesAssistant was a really excellent tool for quickly exposing tables via basic services. On Jan 19, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: That's what I meant (but wasn't clear)... you just no longer have a nice wizard... Of course, if you can install WO5.3 on say Tiger/Leopard you might be in luck? yeah ... if anyone felt like remaking it, i can't imagine that particular tool was hard to build. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/anjo%40krank.net This email sent to a...@krank.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Inline Task into Task component extravaganza
Hi all, A D2W related question... I want a component that allows me to edit a record and also edit another one through a relationship. An InlineEditRelationship thing. I want it because I often have correlation tables in to-many relationships that only hold a few fields and it's too confusing for the user to force them to jump and edit another record all together. To the average user, fields of a correlation table are often viewed as data of one or the other side of the relationship. Let's say we have a Movie Correlation Actor scenario. And we need to keep track of what was the name of the character the actor played in a movie (or his salary or anything related only to that movie). I want to build an EditMovie page that allows me to select the actors that participated to the movie via a very simple and straightforward popup menu and every time I add a new actor I get also a single field for the character name to appear directly inline in the ui. No faults... I'm assuming the actor list is a short one. Now my question... how should I do this? I thought about two examples. Example one: I build a D2W component that edits a relationship by basically sticking a InspectRepetition in it (obviously in a compact short form). When I try to do this I constantly fight against the fact that the D2WContext is setup to edit another entity. So I thought I could build a subcontext by cloning the current one and setting it to edit the other entity and pass this via the d2wcontext binding of the repetition component. Would it work or am I going to face a million problems? Forms into forms being the first I can think of. Example two: I generate a totally different EditPage via the D2WFactory methods and stick it in my parent component via WOSwitchComponents. This also basically does what I'm doing in example one since the newly created page will have it's own D2WContext. Or is there a simpler way? I tried just sticking embedded components without touching the d2wContext by simply binding everything I could think of (d2wContext, datasource, object, keys for the relationships... everything) but I constantly run into something that get's pulled out of the d2wcontext instead of the bindings and messes everything up. I'm in a wonder enabled scenario so I can use anything there as well. I saw Ravi does something similar in one of his tutorials but it's a single field. I want a full fledged edit-in-edit thing. Will I be fighting windmills by trying? Any opinion is welcome and btw, happy start of year to everyone, Riccardo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
I've just taken a look to the documentation, that seems just impressive... I mean : Once you turn on heat maps, future requests will have colored boxes drawn around expensive areas of the page. The closer the border colors on your page are to red, the more expensive they were. That's just brilliant, can't wait to experiment this. Thanks Mike and overlords :) Le 19 janv. 10 à 23:23, Mike Schrag a écrit : http://emerald.hq.mdimension.com:8080/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html Bah ... sorry. link to our internal build server. THAT'S not gonna work. http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alexis.tual%40gmail.com This email sent to alexis.t...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: AjaxUpdateContainer example
hi all, i have got it wat i want, but i have another problem , that is how to call a javascript function when i click on AjaxSubmitButton. i have tried to bind java script function name with onClick binding for AjaxSubmitButton,but the script function is not calling, plz any one help me by providing a sample code. thanks, Venu On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Venu A v...@evergent.com wrote: Hai, I need a example application for *AjaxUpdateContainer*, the example would be using two lists(WOBrowser), first one is available list and second is target, when i click on Add(WOActiveImage) then the selected item will be added from available to target,the lists should be refreshed without refreshing the total page. when i click on cancel(WOActiveImage) the action will be performed without refreshing total page.plz help me thanks and regards, Venu ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
I'm still not completely satisfied with this concept ... It really depends on what kinds of problems you have on your page, but the main issue with it is that you can only really visualize the appendToResponse phase, because the takeValues/invokeAction are often for the previous page. So if you're on a page that's expensive to render, this is useful, but if you are diagnosing a problem in another phase, this won't be all that helpful. However, the profiler shows you the % cost of each phase, so you can use that to judge whether you want to focus on heatmap. ms On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Alexis Tual wrote: I've just taken a look to the documentation, that seems just impressive... I mean : Once you turn on heat maps, future requests will have colored boxes drawn around expensive areas of the page. The closer the border colors on your page are to red, the more expensive they were. That's just brilliant, can't wait to experiment this. Thanks Mike and overlords :) Le 19 janv. 10 à 23:23, Mike Schrag a écrit : http://emerald.hq.mdimension.com:8080/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html Bah ... sorry. link to our internal build server. THAT'S not gonna work. http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alexis.tual%40gmail.com This email sent to alexis.t...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
On the other hand... 99.9 % of the time the other phases will spend all the time in the someAction() that is bound to a button or a form... so having the button you just clicked on colored in red won't be too helpfull, will it? But you could hack that by rendering the current page and stuff it in thread storage or some dict or other. Then you could show it later on on the click of a button. Cheers, Anjo Am 20.01.2010 um 15:32 schrieb Mike Schrag: I'm still not completely satisfied with this concept ... It really depends on what kinds of problems you have on your page, but the main issue with it is that you can only really visualize the appendToResponse phase, because the takeValues/invokeAction are often for the previous page. So if you're on a page that's expensive to render, this is useful, but if you are diagnosing a problem in another phase, this won't be all that helpful. However, the profiler shows you the % cost of each phase, so you can use that to judge whether you want to focus on heatmap. ms On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Alexis Tual wrote: I've just taken a look to the documentation, that seems just impressive... I mean : Once you turn on heat maps, future requests will have colored boxes drawn around expensive areas of the page. The closer the border colors on your page are to red, the more expensive they were. That's just brilliant, can't wait to experiment this. Thanks Mike and overlords :) Le 19 janv. 10 à 23:23, Mike Schrag a écrit : http://emerald.hq.mdimension.com:8080/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html Bah ... sorry. link to our internal build server. THAT'S not gonna work. http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alexis.tual%40gmail.com This email sent to alexis.t...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/anjo%40krank.net This email sent to a...@krank.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
Why do I get the impression that this was made by a couple dudes going off and making it and not just sitting around talking about it all day. :-) Very cool! I guess we have another topic to discuss at a future WONoVA meeting. Dave On Jan 19, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: http://emerald.hq.mdimension.com:8080/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html ... doesn't actually depend on anything in Wonder, so you should be able to use it anywhere. Thank our overlords at iTMS for allowing me to release this. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
I like the idea that you can take an existing huge and complex app, plug this on, navigating and track down the bottlenecks in rendering without even knowing how the app was built. For bottlenecks in other phases, I guess the tree representation is less eye candy but more usefull, showing all the RR phases with execution times and sql, right ?! Alex Le 20 janv. 10 à 16:20, Anjo Krank a écrit : On the other hand... 99.9 % of the time the other phases will spend all the time in the someAction() that is bound to a button or a form... so having the button you just clicked on colored in red won't be too helpfull, will it? But you could hack that by rendering the current page and stuff it in thread storage or some dict or other. Then you could show it later on on the click of a button. Cheers, Anjo Am 20.01.2010 um 15:32 schrieb Mike Schrag: I'm still not completely satisfied with this concept ... It really depends on what kinds of problems you have on your page, but the main issue with it is that you can only really visualize the appendToResponse phase, because the takeValues/invokeAction are often for the previous page. So if you're on a page that's expensive to render, this is useful, but if you are diagnosing a problem in another phase, this won't be all that helpful. However, the profiler shows you the % cost of each phase, so you can use that to judge whether you want to focus on heatmap. ms On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Alexis Tual wrote: I've just taken a look to the documentation, that seems just impressive... I mean : Once you turn on heat maps, future requests will have colored boxes drawn around expensive areas of the page. The closer the border colors on your page are to red, the more expensive they were. That's just brilliant, can't wait to experiment this. Thanks Mike and overlords :) Le 19 janv. 10 à 23:23, Mike Schrag a écrit : http://emerald.hq.mdimension.com:8080/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html Bah ... sorry. link to our internal build server. THAT'S not gonna work. http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alexis.tual%40gmail.com This email sent to alexis.t...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/anjo %40krank.net This email sent to a...@krank.net ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alexis.tual%40gmail.com This email sent to alexis.t...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
For bottlenecks in other phases, I guess the tree representation is less eye candy but more usefull, showing all the RR phases with execution times and sql, right ?! the tree representation is never eye-candy, but yes. even with heat maps, there are times when you can't necessarily actually SEE a heat map area (if it's not a visible component or a component that doesn't end up generating HTML). It's also sometimes nice to just flip to the tree and see exactly what the component is that is doing things. i'll likely integrate the abilities from click-to-open into this so that you can get rollover metadata on the components as well. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
You are reading my mind. :-) On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: i'll likely integrate the abilities from click-to-open into this so that you can get rollover metadata on the components as well. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:23 AM, David Avendasora wrote: You are reading my mind. :-) Poor, poor Mike. That must have been a dreadful experience. On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: i'll likely integrate the abilities from click-to-open into this so that you can get rollover metadata on the components as well. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERProfiling
On Jan 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:23 AM, David Avendasora wrote: You are reading my mind. :-) Poor, poor Mike. That must have been a dreadful experience. May your next project use Maven. Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
WebObjects position open in Burlingame, CA-US
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Re: Inline Task into Task component extravaganza
On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Riccardo De Menna wrote: Hi all, A D2W related question... I want a component that allows me to edit a record and also edit another one through a relationship. An InlineEditRelationship thing. I want it because I often have correlation tables in to-many relationships that only hold a few fields and it's too confusing for the user to force them to jump and edit another record all together. To the average user, fields of a correlation table are often viewed as data of one or the other side of the relationship. Let's say we have a Movie Correlation Actor scenario. And we need to keep track of what was the name of the character the actor played in a movie (or his salary or anything related only to that movie). I want to build an EditMovie page that allows me to select the actors that participated to the movie via a very simple and straightforward popup menu and every time I add a new actor I get also a single field for the character name to appear directly inline in the ui. No faults... I'm assuming the actor list is a short one. It sounds like you need something like Movie -- Roles -- Actor rather than a simple many-to-many join from Movies to Actors. Perhaps that is the correlation table you mentioned? Now my question... how should I do this? I thought about two examples. Example one: I build a D2W component that edits a relationship by basically sticking a InspectRepetition in it (obviously in a compact short form). When I try to do this I constantly fight against the fact that the D2WContext is setup to edit another entity. So I thought I could build a subcontext by cloning the current one and setting it to edit the other entity and pass this via the d2wcontext binding of the repetition component. Would it work or am I going to face a million problems? Forms into forms being the first I can think of. ERXWOForm prevents nested forms for you. But you're right, it's not going to work without a separate d2wcontext because you're trying to stick one page configuration into another. Example two: I generate a totally different EditPage via the D2WFactory methods and stick it in my parent component via WOSwitchComponents. This also basically does what I'm doing in example one since the newly created page will have it's own D2WContext. Or is there a simpler way? I tried just sticking embedded components without touching the d2wContext by simply binding everything I could think of (d2wContext, datasource, object, keys for the relationships... everything) but I constantly run into something that get's pulled out of the d2wcontext instead of the bindings and messes everything up. I'm in a wonder enabled scenario so I can use anything there as well. I saw Ravi does something similar in one of his tutorials but it's a single field. I want a full fledged edit-in-edit thing. Will I be fighting windmills by trying? Any opinion is welcome and btw, happy start of year to everyone, Riccardo Using a WOSwitchComponent is still going to leave you with the same problem as above. You need to use an embed component if you want to embed one page configuration into another one. A D2WEdit or perhaps an ERXD2WInspect. If you ran into problems using the embed components, I would suggest you have a look at something like the ERNEUEditRelationshipPage. It uses an embedded edit, list, and query all in one page. It should be enough to help you figure out what you're missing in your bindings. Ramsey smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: AjaxSubmitButton
You can use a binding like elementName=button; And then wrap your image with the button. http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder53/javadoc/er/ajax/AjaxSubmitButton.html On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:22 AM, Venu A wrote: Hi all, When i use AjaxSubmitButton it is generated a normal html button, insted of that normal html button i want to use rich button which is created by the tool like submit.jpg button.How can i use the submit.jpg button with same AjaxSubmitButton functionality.plz help me. thanks and regards, Venu ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rgurley%40mac.com This email sent to rgur...@mac.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
