Re: Logging on LINUX

2012-07-24 Thread Henrique Gomes

On Jul 18, 2012, at 1:19 PM, jp.malr...@free.fr wrote:

 It is logging now. Don't know if it's because it took time to start logging 
 output or if it is because I made the directory writable by apache...

It's not apache writing to the log folder It's the user running wotaskd... 
Unless they are the same on your setup.

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Improvements to deployment tools

2012-07-24 Thread Pascal Robert
Hi guys,

This is something I'm thinking about for months, and since I see a lot of 
people having issues with deployment, I have a couple of ideas to improve it.

1) To have REST actions inside wotaskd. By having that, we won't ever need 
JavaMonitor to manage wotaskd. You could use curl or any HTTP tools, and you 
could rewrite Monitor in JavaScript or whatever. 

2) Upload support into wotaskd so that you can ship the app to it and wotaskd 
will take care of putting it at the correct location.

3) Deployment support in WOLips. Choose WOLips Tools - Deploy and 
build/deploy your app directly from WOLips.

4) Deployment plugin in Jenkins that would connect to the REST actions of 
wotaskd.

5) RPM and .deb packages of wotaskd and mod_webobjects, with a Yum/apt-get 
repositories to install/update the deployment tools on Linux.

Opinions? 
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Re: Improvements to deployment tools

2012-07-24 Thread George Domurot
I think about this each day as I update apps on our servers.  Jenkins makes it 
easier, but the final install steps should be automated.  However, each build 
on Jenkins shouldn't necessarily go live.  The final deployment step should 
take a forced action or trigger to signify a deployable build.

-G

On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 This is something I'm thinking about for months, and since I see a lot of 
 people having issues with deployment, I have a couple of ideas to improve it.
 
 1) To have REST actions inside wotaskd. By having that, we won't ever need 
 JavaMonitor to manage wotaskd. You could use curl or any HTTP tools, and you 
 could rewrite Monitor in JavaScript or whatever. 
 
 2) Upload support into wotaskd so that you can ship the app to it and wotaskd 
 will take care of putting it at the correct location.
 
 3) Deployment support in WOLips. Choose WOLips Tools - Deploy and 
 build/deploy your app directly from WOLips.
 
 4) Deployment plugin in Jenkins that would connect to the REST actions of 
 wotaskd.
 
 5) RPM and .deb packages of wotaskd and mod_webobjects, with a Yum/apt-get 
 repositories to install/update the deployment tools on Linux.
 
 Opinions? 
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clone from git question

2012-07-24 Thread Theodore Petrosky
So I successfully pushed my project to a git repo. so the obvious test is to 
clone it back to my computer and see that everything is okay.

I cloned my repo and imported it into eclipse. it compiles and runs just fine, 
thank you.

however, when I open the project (turn down the disclosure triangle), I see all 
the referenced libraries.

is there a setting that didn't get pushed to the repo that tells (i guess) 
eclipse/wolips not to display these referenced libraries?

Ted
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Re: clone from git question

2012-07-24 Thread Pascal Robert

Le 2012-07-24 à 09:05, Theodore Petrosky a écrit :

 So I successfully pushed my project to a git repo. so the obvious test is to 
 clone it back to my computer and see that everything is okay.

So you enabled Git (git init) on your computer and pushed it to a remote 
repository? You didn't need to clone it back because it was already under Git 
control locally.

 I cloned my repo and imported it into eclipse. it compiles and runs just 
 fine, thank you.
 
 however, when I open the project (turn down the disclosure triangle), I see 
 all the referenced libraries.
 
 is there a setting that didn't get pushed to the repo that tells (i guess) 
 eclipse/wolips not to display these referenced libraries?

Does the .settings directory was part of the Git commit?
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Re: Improvements to deployment tools

2012-07-24 Thread Pascal Robert
Yup, most of the time you want to push a build automatically is for staging 
servers. For prod, good chance that you want to do it at a specific time.

 I think about this each day as I update apps on our servers.  Jenkins makes 
 it easier, but the final install steps should be automated.  However, each 
 build on Jenkins shouldn't necessarily go live.  The final deployment step 
 should take a forced action or trigger to signify a deployable build.
 
 -G
 
 On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 This is something I'm thinking about for months, and since I see a lot of 
 people having issues with deployment, I have a couple of ideas to improve it.
 
 1) To have REST actions inside wotaskd. By having that, we won't ever need 
 JavaMonitor to manage wotaskd. You could use curl or any HTTP tools, and you 
 could rewrite Monitor in JavaScript or whatever. 
 
 2) Upload support into wotaskd so that you can ship the app to it and 
 wotaskd will take care of putting it at the correct location.
 
 3) Deployment support in WOLips. Choose WOLips Tools - Deploy and 
 build/deploy your app directly from WOLips.
 
 4) Deployment plugin in Jenkins that would connect to the REST actions of 
 wotaskd.
 
 5) RPM and .deb packages of wotaskd and mod_webobjects, with a Yum/apt-get 
 repositories to install/update the deployment tools on Linux.
 
 Opinions? 
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Re: clone from git question

2012-07-24 Thread Theodore Petrosky
I understand that I didn't NEED to clone it back, I was being thorough and 
checking to see if I cloned it to a second machine (at home) what would that 
person see. This is my first time.

I just checked the bitbucket repo and the .settings directory is included.

but from an email from maik, I checked at the eclipse workspace I imported my 
clone into was not in WOLip perspective. Switching it fixed the issue.

Thanks

Ted

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 From: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca
 Subject: Re: clone from git question
 To: Theodore Petrosky tedp...@yahoo.com
 Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 9:09 AM
 
 Le 2012-07-24 à 09:05, Theodore Petrosky a écrit :
 
  So I successfully pushed my project to a git repo. so
 the obvious test is to clone it back to my computer and see
 that everything is okay.
 
 So you enabled Git (git init) on your computer and pushed it
 to a remote repository? You didn't need to clone it back
 because it was already under Git control locally.
 
  I cloned my repo and imported it into eclipse. it
 compiles and runs just fine, thank you.
  
  however, when I open the project (turn down the
 disclosure triangle), I see all the referenced libraries.
  
  is there a setting that didn't get pushed to the repo
 that tells (i guess) eclipse/wolips not to display these
 referenced libraries?
 
 Does the .settings directory was part of the Git
 commit?

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Re: Improvements to deployment tools

2012-07-24 Thread Johann Werner

Am 24.07.2012 um 14:22 schrieb Pascal Robert:

 Hi guys,
 
 This is something I'm thinking about for months, and since I see a lot of 
 people having issues with deployment, I have a couple of ideas to improve it.
 
 1) To have REST actions inside wotaskd. By having that, we won't ever need 
 JavaMonitor to manage wotaskd. You could use curl or any HTTP tools, and you 
 could rewrite Monitor in JavaScript or whatever. 
 
 2) Upload support into wotaskd so that you can ship the app to it and wotaskd 
 will take care of putting it at the correct location.
 
 3) Deployment support in WOLips. Choose WOLips Tools - Deploy and 
 build/deploy your app directly from WOLips.
 
 4) Deployment plugin in Jenkins that would connect to the REST actions of 
 wotaskd.

That works only for the application part, the webserver resources will often 
have to be deployed on a different machine(s) without wotaskd.

 5) RPM and .deb packages of wotaskd and mod_webobjects, with a Yum/apt-get 
 repositories to install/update the deployment tools on Linux.
 
 Opinions?


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Re: Improvements to deployment tools

2012-07-24 Thread Pascal Robert

Le 2012-07-24 à 09:56, Johann Werner a écrit :

 
 Am 24.07.2012 um 14:22 schrieb Pascal Robert:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 This is something I'm thinking about for months, and since I see a lot of 
 people having issues with deployment, I have a couple of ideas to improve it.
 
 1) To have REST actions inside wotaskd. By having that, we won't ever need 
 JavaMonitor to manage wotaskd. You could use curl or any HTTP tools, and you 
 could rewrite Monitor in JavaScript or whatever. 
 
 2) Upload support into wotaskd so that you can ship the app to it and 
 wotaskd will take care of putting it at the correct location.
 
 3) Deployment support in WOLips. Choose WOLips Tools - Deploy and 
 build/deploy your app directly from WOLips.
 
 4) Deployment plugin in Jenkins that would connect to the REST actions of 
 wotaskd.
 
 That works only for the application part, the webserver resources will often 
 have to be deployed on a different machine(s) without wotaskd.

I must say that by looking at the setups of who ask me for help and my own 
experience, the vast majority deploys on a single server. Obviously someone who 
deploy on multiple servers and do load balancing knows what they are doing and 
will probably not use the built-in tools in WOLips or the upload stuff :-) But 
yeah, maybe having some kind of a small XML or plist file that can specify 
where to deploy would be good.
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Re: Git repo layout for own WO projects

2012-07-24 Thread Maik Musall
Hi Paul et al.,

Am 20.07.2012 um 01:09 schrieb Paul Hoadley:

 I've found that git-svn-clone does a pretty reasonable job of converting the 
 Subversion conventions for branches/tags into their Git counterparts.  
 Combined with git-filter-branch, you should be able to extract individual 
 projects from your existing repo into their own Git repos.  Further, unless 
 you have currently active branches, you could just forget about _converting_ 
 them altogether (in which case they would end up in a folder called 
 'branches'), or simply ignore them.  It depends how particular you are about 
 preserving history.  (I used to think I was very particular about preserving 
 history.  It's amazing how _actually trying to do it_ can relax your outlook.)
 
 Good thing is, I can clone and look at it at will locally, so I'm now 
 experimenting with different layouts. The most probably outcome so far looks 
 like one repo for the app and the app-specific frameworks, and separate 
 repos for each generic framework. But I have no idea yet how to manage the 
 dependencies between those.
 
 That's pretty much what I decided on.  I've made the move with a couple of 
 applications, one of which has four Eclipse projects in it as mentioned 
 above—that's about as big as I would like to get.  What are the dependency 
 issues you're worried about?
 
 This is a topic I am very interested in—keep us up to date with how you go, 
 Maik.

I've finished converting fow now. What I finally decided on is:

1) one git repo for the main app and all frameworks that are specific to that 
app
2) leave all generic frameworks in subversion for the time being.

Decision 2 is based on the fact that changes in those frameworks are both 
low-traffic and mostly independent of the individual projects using them. We 
already took care to make only changes that don't break existing APIs there, 
and had to communicate and do some decisionmaking anyway when that wasn't 
possible. Plus, I have an easy point to stop putting time into the conversion 
and postpone the rest for later when I've accumulated more experience with git.

So, the conversion was as follows:

   git clone --preserve-empty-dirs --username=maik 
svn://path.to.host/ParentFolder/ProjectFolderContainingAppAndRelatedFrameworks

Then deleted all frameworks within the converted folder that had 
trunk/tags/branches structures in them, and made separate clones
of them in another directory using the -s option. Then added these as new 
remotes to the main clone:

   cd $mainRepo
   git remote add -f Framework1 /path/to/Framework1
   git merge -s ours --no-commit Framework1/master
   git read-tree --prefix=Framework1/ -u Framework1/master
   git commit -m merge Framework1 into main

Main helping reference for this was: 
http://nuclearsquid.com/writings/subtree-merging-and-you/

Subsequent commits to svn showed up in the svn remote that resulted from the 
conversion automatically. When I wanted to start merging new git-local branches 
however, SourceTree warned about that being actions that could not be synced 
any more with the svn remote. Since I didn't want to be restrained by svn in 
the future anyway, I decided to cut the connection to svn at that point, doing:

   git branch -r -d git-svn
   git config --remove-section svn-remote.svn
   rm -rf .git/svn

and added a final commit to svn, commenting that it's an abandoned repo now.

All that resulted in working local git repos. I then installed gitolite on the 
same OS X server running subversion, created a repo there, added that as remote 
and pushed everything there. Works fine. The one feature that we don't have for 
now is pull requests. Gitlab failed to install on OS X, and I'll probably use a 
Linux box for that later on. Using github is out of the question because we 
can't and won't host customer-related source code anywhere outside our control.

And a final remark: branching and merging with new features and other changes 
since the conversion has been an amazing experience so far. I should have done 
that a long time ago. This is so much better than stinkin' subversion...

Maik


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Re: JavaMonitor

2012-07-24 Thread Pascal Robert
Check the JavaScript console in your browser to see if any errors are there.

 Hi,
 
 I downloaded JavaMonitor from 
 http://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/Wonder/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Root/Roots/JavaMonitor.tar.gz
 
 I installed it. It looks great! thanks guys. I just have a problem, it seems 
 that some div's don't work, I assume they should open. This is the image of 
 the areas that don't open:
 
 Screen Shot 2012-07-24 at 13.08.01.png
 I click on HTTP Adaptor Settings and nothing happens.
 
 I tried  with Safari, Chrome and Firefox, mac os X Lion.
 
 Does anybody have the same issue?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Miguel Torres.
 
 
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Re: JavaMonitor

2012-07-24 Thread WebObjects TORAcom
You are right,

I found this error.
NetworkError: 404 Not Found - 
http://mysite.com/WebObjects/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/prototype.js;
The JavaMonitor application does not have the frameworks embedded?

Should I copy the Framework's WebServerResources to the Web Server folder?

Thanks.

Miguel. 



On 24/07/2012, at 14:00, Pascal Robert wrote:

 Check the JavaScript console in your browser to see if any errors are there.
 
 Hi,
 
 I downloaded JavaMonitor from 
 http://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/Wonder/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Root/Roots/JavaMonitor.tar.gz
 
 I installed it. It looks great! thanks guys. I just have a problem, it seems 
 that some div's don't work, I assume they should open. This is the image of 
 the areas that don't open:
 
 Screen Shot 2012-07-24 at 13.08.01.png
 I click on HTTP Adaptor Settings and nothing happens.
 
 I tried  with Safari, Chrome and Firefox, mac os X Lion.
 
 Does anybody have the same issue?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Miguel Torres.
 
 
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Re: JavaMonitor

2012-07-24 Thread WebObjects TORAcom
Maybe I did something wrong during the WebObjects deployment environment 
installation.

I followed this tutorial

http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Linux


I copied the WebObjects folder to my webserver:

cp -rp /opt/Local/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects /var/www/htdocs

But if I list the content of 
/opt/Local/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects/Frameworks/ I get this:

ls /opt/Local/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects/Frameworks/
JavaEOApplication.framework  JavaEOGeneration.framework  
JavaEOInterface.framework  JavaEORuleSystem.framework

There is no Ajax.framework 

Am I missing something?

Thanks

On 24/07/2012, at 15:13, WebObjects TORAcom wrote:

 You are right,
 
 I found this error.
 NetworkError: 404 Not Found - 
 http://mysite.com/WebObjects/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/prototype.js;
 The JavaMonitor application does not have the frameworks embedded?
 
 Should I copy the Framework's WebServerResources to the Web Server folder?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Miguel. 
 
 
 
 On 24/07/2012, at 14:00, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Check the JavaScript console in your browser to see if any errors are there.
 
 Hi,
 
 I downloaded JavaMonitor from 
 http://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/Wonder/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Root/Roots/JavaMonitor.tar.gz
 
 I installed it. It looks great! thanks guys. I just have a problem, it 
 seems that some div's don't work, I assume they should open. This is the 
 image of the areas that don't open:
 
 Screen Shot 2012-07-24 at 13.08.01.png
 I click on HTTP Adaptor Settings and nothing happens.
 
 I tried  with Safari, Chrome and Firefox, mac os X Lion.
 
 Does anybody have the same issue?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Miguel Torres.
 
 
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Re: JavaMonitor

2012-07-24 Thread Ted Archibald
Copy the frameworks from JavaMonitor.woa/Contents/Frameworks into
/var/www/htdocs/WebObjects/Frameworks

Then remove /var/www/htdocs/WebObjects/Frameworks/*.framework/Resources
which will just leave the static resources *.framework/WebServerResources



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 Maybe I did something wrong during the WebObjects deployment environment
 installation.

 I followed this tutorial

 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Linux


 I copied the WebObjects folder to my webserver:

 cp -rp /opt/Local/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects /var/www/htdocs

 But if I list the content of 
 /opt/Local/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects/Frameworks/
 I get this:

 ls /opt/Local/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects/Frameworks/
 JavaEOApplication.framework JavaEOGeneration.framework
 JavaEOInterface.framework JavaEORuleSystem.framework

 There is no Ajax.framework

 Am I missing something?

 Thanks

 On 24/07/2012, at 15:13, WebObjects TORAcom wrote:

 You are right,

 I found this error.
 NetworkError: 404 Not Found -
 http://mysite.com/WebObjects/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/prototype.js
 
 The JavaMonitor application does not have the frameworks embedded?

 Should I copy the Framework's WebServerResources to the Web Server folder?

 Thanks.

 Miguel.



 On 24/07/2012, at 14:00, Pascal Robert wrote:

 Check the JavaScript console in your browser to see if any errors are
 there.


 Hi,


 I downloaded JavaMonitor from


 http://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/Wonder/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Root/Roots/JavaMonitor.tar.gz


 I installed it. It looks great! thanks guys. I just have a problem, it
 seems that some div's don't work, I assume they should open. This is the
 image of the areas that don't open:


 Screen Shot 2012-07-24 at 13.08.01.png

 I click on HTTP Adaptor Settings and nothing happens.


 I tried  with Safari, Chrome and Firefox, mac os X Lion.


 Does anybody have the same issue?


 Thanks in advance.


 Miguel Torres.



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Re: Installing Tools and Framework is a mess

2012-07-24 Thread Jeffrey Schmitz
On a similar subject, I'm trying to setup a new Lion server machine for 
deployment.  I'm trying to use these instructions:

http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Mac+OS+X+Server

But I'm not getting very far because (I think) of changes made to Lion. 

The first thing that's unclear to me is what steps need to be done.  Are the 
first two Install WeObjects... sections an either or proposition, or do you 
have to do both, or something in between?  I'm thinking the part about 
installing mod_WebObjects.so in the second section needs to be done regardless 
which method you use to install webobjects.

Continuing, after installing using the Apple installer, when I try to install 
the mdimension mod_WebObjects.so file, the directory referenced as containing 
the old module (/System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2) doesn't exist.   
So my main question is, where do I need to install the mod_WebObjects module on 
Lion, and where is the old one installed?

Thanks,
Jeff

On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 
 Le 2012-07-17 à 21:30, G Brown a écrit :
 
 What do you all think?
 
 ...Oh, let me explain
 
 There is documentation for WOLips scattered in the Wonder wiki, the WOLips 
 wiki, (WebObjects wiki?) etc. 
 
 Why? Would it be a good idea to have it in one place/wiki? And then refer 
 with those fancy hyperlink things to that one place? It would seem to me 
 that would make updating it and finding it easier. It would seem that the 
 natural place would be in the WOLips wiki. I can see how having it spread 
 around makes extra documentation work and difficulties.
 
 Also, everything changes, but maybe the documentation can be set up to deal 
 with the changes better. For example, a writer could refer to the current 
 version throughout a document and maybe a note at the top  would say the 
 current recommended version is 4.5 (July 2014) and so on. Updating the 
 document often would just be changing the 4.5 to 4.6, the date, July 2014 to 
 March 2015, etc.  Anything to help keep the documentation easy to update and 
 provide clues as to what year the documentation was written. 
 
 BTW, Confluence do display the last modified date of a page. But if we only 
 fix a spelling mistake on a two years old document, it will put the date of 
 the last modification.
 
 
 It is too bad we don't have IBM's Watson computer to read the mailing list, 
 extract the juicy bits, assemble a rough draft of documentation, and email 
 it to somebody for proof reading, probably to a Dave.  Next decade?
 
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 5:19 PM, G Brown wrote:
 
 There is also:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WOL/WOLips
 
 Getting Started
 The easiest way to install WOLips is to follow the steps in the Install 
 WOLips with Eclipse Update Manager tutorial. If this is your first time 
 using WOLips, this is the recommended method for installing WOLips.
 
 
 Also the installer should have a list of materials, or a page telling what 
 all it does.
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 I do agree that we need to have an installer that will install Eclipse, 
 WOLips, Wonder and the core WO frameworks. But we did cleanup the wiki a 
 lot a couple of months ago, so I would like to know which pages on the 
 wiki you followed, because this page:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Project+Wonder+Installation
 
 does specify that Java is not installed by default on Lion and launching a 
 Java app will install the JVM.
 
 
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 gsbr...@umich.edu
 
 
 
 
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Re: Improvements to deployment tools

2012-07-24 Thread Ray Kiddy

On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 This is something I'm thinking about for months, and since I see a lot of 
 people having issues with deployment, I have a couple of ideas to improve it.
 
 1) To have REST actions inside wotaskd. By having that, we won't ever need 
 JavaMonitor to manage wotaskd. You could use curl or any HTTP tools, and you 
 could rewrite Monitor in JavaScript or whatever. 
 

This first suggestion is an amazingly good idea. I especially like the fact 
that it would be fairly easy to do. Adding hooks for REST in wotaskd should not 
break the rest of the application.

 2) Upload support into wotaskd so that you can ship the app to it and wotaskd 
 will take care of putting it at the correct location.
 

I agree with this one also. I am trying to set up some installation tools and I 
keep wondering why the heck I am fighting these f-ing scripts. Because we could 
have tools that manage deployments… O wait. We do. Sort of.

 3) Deployment support in WOLips. Choose WOLips Tools - Deploy and 
 build/deploy your app directly from WOLips.

This one I am not so excited about. Maybe somebody else thinks that deploying 
this way would be a good idea. I am not sure who that would be, though.

 
 4) Deployment plugin in Jenkins that would connect to the REST actions of 
 wotaskd.

Others have pointed out that you do not want to go from Jenkins to 
auto-deployment. But what I _really_ want to do is have a Jenkins build install 
the app, install it with a different name and run the tests I have included in 
my application, and then report the results to me. If I am running a suite of 
MyApp.woa instances, Jenkins could auto-deploy a MyAppNext.woa and then run the 
tests on it for me. You would want the change of MyAppNext.woa to MyApp.woa to 
be something that Monitor could do as a separate step, like bouncing apps, and 
it should not be too difficult.

 5) RPM and .deb packages of wotaskd and mod_webobjects, with a Yum/apt-get 
 repositories to install/update the deployment tools on Linux.
 

One could even have a Wonder install in port. I mean, hey, why not?

 Opinions? 

Got lots. Why do you ask? Do you want some of my extras?

cheers - ray



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Re: Installing Tools and Framework is a mess

2012-07-24 Thread George Domurot
Hi Jess,

I've always used the WOInstaller.jar option.

You create the directory:
/System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2

Seeing that this is a fresh install, you shouldn't have anything installed — 
but if you did:
rm -f /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2/mod_WebObjects.la
rm -f /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2/mod_WebObjects.so

-G


On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz wrote:

 On a similar subject, I'm trying to setup a new Lion server machine for 
 deployment.  I'm trying to use these instructions:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Mac+OS+X+Server
 
 But I'm not getting very far because (I think) of changes made to Lion. 
 
 The first thing that's unclear to me is what steps need to be done.  Are the 
 first two Install WeObjects... sections an either or proposition, or do you 
 have to do both, or something in between?  I'm thinking the part about 
 installing mod_WebObjects.so in the second section needs to be done 
 regardless which method you use to install webobjects.
 
 Continuing, after installing using the Apple installer, when I try to install 
 the mdimension mod_WebObjects.so file, the directory referenced as containing 
 the old module (/System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2) doesn't exist. 
   So my main question is, where do I need to install the mod_WebObjects 
 module on Lion, and where is the old one installed?
 
 Thanks,
 Jeff
 
 On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 
 Le 2012-07-17 à 21:30, G Brown a écrit :
 
 What do you all think?
 
 ...Oh, let me explain
 
 There is documentation for WOLips scattered in the Wonder wiki, the WOLips 
 wiki, (WebObjects wiki?) etc. 
 
 Why? Would it be a good idea to have it in one place/wiki? And then refer 
 with those fancy hyperlink things to that one place? It would seem to me 
 that would make updating it and finding it easier. It would seem that the 
 natural place would be in the WOLips wiki. I can see how having it spread 
 around makes extra documentation work and difficulties.
 
 Also, everything changes, but maybe the documentation can be set up to deal 
 with the changes better. For example, a writer could refer to the current 
 version throughout a document and maybe a note at the top  would say the 
 current recommended version is 4.5 (July 2014) and so on. Updating the 
 document often would just be changing the 4.5 to 4.6, the date, July 2014 
 to March 2015, etc.  Anything to help keep the documentation easy to update 
 and provide clues as to what year the documentation was written. 
 
 BTW, Confluence do display the last modified date of a page. But if we only 
 fix a spelling mistake on a two years old document, it will put the date of 
 the last modification.
 
 
 It is too bad we don't have IBM's Watson computer to read the mailing list, 
 extract the juicy bits, assemble a rough draft of documentation, and email 
 it to somebody for proof reading, probably to a Dave.  Next decade?
 
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 5:19 PM, G Brown wrote:
 
 There is also:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WOL/WOLips
 
 Getting Started
 The easiest way to install WOLips is to follow the steps in the Install 
 WOLips with Eclipse Update Manager tutorial. If this is your first time 
 using WOLips, this is the recommended method for installing WOLips.
 
 
 Also the installer should have a list of materials, or a page telling what 
 all it does.
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 I do agree that we need to have an installer that will install Eclipse, 
 WOLips, Wonder and the core WO frameworks. But we did cleanup the wiki a 
 lot a couple of months ago, so I would like to know which pages on the 
 wiki you followed, because this page:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Project+Wonder+Installation
 
 does specify that Java is not installed by default on Lion and launching 
 a Java app will install the JVM.
 
 
 G Brown
 gsbr...@umich.edu
 
 
 
 
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Re: Installing Tools and Framework is a mess

2012-07-24 Thread Jeffrey Schmitz
Just as a follow up, I did run the Apple installer.  If I now run the 
WOInstaller will there be problems?  Also, I think you need to specify a 
destination when using the WOInstaller, but I don't see any directions saying 
where that should be.  Finally, since I ran the apple installer, shouldn't the 
/System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2 be there?

Thanks!
Jeff

On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:40 PM, George Domurot wrote:

 Hi Jess,
 
 I've always used the WOInstaller.jar option.
 
 You create the directory:
 /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2
 
 Seeing that this is a fresh install, you shouldn't have anything installed — 
 but if you did:
 rm -f /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2/mod_WebObjects.la
 rm -f /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2/mod_WebObjects.so
 
 -G
 
 
 On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz wrote:
 
 On a similar subject, I'm trying to setup a new Lion server machine for 
 deployment.  I'm trying to use these instructions:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Mac+OS+X+Server
 
 But I'm not getting very far because (I think) of changes made to Lion. 
 
 The first thing that's unclear to me is what steps need to be done.  Are the 
 first two Install WeObjects... sections an either or proposition, or do you 
 have to do both, or something in between?  I'm thinking the part about 
 installing mod_WebObjects.so in the second section needs to be done 
 regardless which method you use to install webobjects.
 
 Continuing, after installing using the Apple installer, when I try to 
 install the mdimension mod_WebObjects.so file, the directory referenced as 
 containing the old module (/System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2) 
 doesn't exist.   So my main question is, where do I need to install the 
 mod_WebObjects module on Lion, and where is the old one installed?
 
 Thanks,
 Jeff
 
 On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 
 Le 2012-07-17 à 21:30, G Brown a écrit :
 
 What do you all think?
 
 ...Oh, let me explain
 
 There is documentation for WOLips scattered in the Wonder wiki, the WOLips 
 wiki, (WebObjects wiki?) etc. 
 
 Why? Would it be a good idea to have it in one place/wiki? And then refer 
 with those fancy hyperlink things to that one place? It would seem to me 
 that would make updating it and finding it easier. It would seem that the 
 natural place would be in the WOLips wiki. I can see how having it spread 
 around makes extra documentation work and difficulties.
 
 Also, everything changes, but maybe the documentation can be set up to 
 deal with the changes better. For example, a writer could refer to the 
 current version throughout a document and maybe a note at the top  would 
 say the current recommended version is 4.5 (July 2014) and so on. 
 Updating the document often would just be changing the 4.5 to 4.6, the 
 date, July 2014 to March 2015, etc.  Anything to help keep the 
 documentation easy to update and provide clues as to what year the 
 documentation was written. 
 
 BTW, Confluence do display the last modified date of a page. But if we only 
 fix a spelling mistake on a two years old document, it will put the date of 
 the last modification.
 
 
 It is too bad we don't have IBM's Watson computer to read the mailing 
 list, extract the juicy bits, assemble a rough draft of documentation, and 
 email it to somebody for proof reading, probably to a Dave.  Next decade?
 
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 5:19 PM, G Brown wrote:
 
 There is also:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WOL/WOLips
 
 Getting Started
 The easiest way to install WOLips is to follow the steps in the Install 
 WOLips with Eclipse Update Manager tutorial. If this is your first time 
 using WOLips, this is the recommended method for installing WOLips.
 
 
 Also the installer should have a list of materials, or a page telling 
 what all it does.
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 I do agree that we need to have an installer that will install Eclipse, 
 WOLips, Wonder and the core WO frameworks. But we did cleanup the wiki a 
 lot a couple of months ago, so I would like to know which pages on the 
 wiki you followed, because this page:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Project+Wonder+Installation
 
 does specify that Java is not installed by default on Lion and launching 
 a Java app will install the JVM.
 
 
 G Brown
 gsbr...@umich.edu
 
 
 
 
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Re: Installing Tools and Framework is a mess

2012-07-24 Thread George Domurot
I've never used the other installer.  But, I don't think you'll have any 
problems.

We install to:
/opt/webobjects

-G

On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz wrote:
 
 Just as a follow up, I did run the Apple installer.  If I now run the 
 WOInstaller will there be problems?  Also, I think you need to specify a 
 destination when using the WOInstaller, but I don't see any directions saying 
 where that should be.  Finally, since I ran the apple installer, shouldn't 
 the /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2 be there?
 
 Thanks!Jeff
 
 On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:40 PM, George Domurot wrote:
 
 Hi Jess,
 
 I've always used the WOInstaller.jar option.
 
 You create the directory:
 /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2
 
 Seeing that this is a fresh install, you shouldn't have anything installed — 
 but if you did:
 rm -f /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2/mod_WebObjects.la
 rm -f /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2/mod_WebObjects.so
 
 -G
 
 
 On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Jeffrey Schmitz wrote:
 
 On a similar subject, I'm trying to setup a new Lion server machine for 
 deployment.  I'm trying to use these instructions:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Mac+OS+X+Server
 
 But I'm not getting very far because (I think) of changes made to Lion. 
 
 The first thing that's unclear to me is what steps need to be done.  Are 
 the first two Install WeObjects... sections an either or proposition, or do 
 you have to do both, or something in between?  I'm thinking the part about 
 installing mod_WebObjects.so in the second section needs to be done 
 regardless which method you use to install webobjects.
 
 Continuing, after installing using the Apple installer, when I try to 
 install the mdimension mod_WebObjects.so file, the directory referenced as 
 containing the old module (/System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2) 
 doesn't exist.   So my main question is, where do I need to install the 
 mod_WebObjects module on Lion, and where is the old one installed?
 
 Thanks,
 Jeff
 
 On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 
 Le 2012-07-17 à 21:30, G Brown a écrit :
 
 What do you all think?
 
 ...Oh, let me explain
 
 There is documentation for WOLips scattered in the Wonder wiki, the 
 WOLips wiki, (WebObjects wiki?) etc. 
 
 Why? Would it be a good idea to have it in one place/wiki? And then refer 
 with those fancy hyperlink things to that one place? It would seem to me 
 that would make updating it and finding it easier. It would seem that the 
 natural place would be in the WOLips wiki. I can see how having it spread 
 around makes extra documentation work and difficulties.
 
 Also, everything changes, but maybe the documentation can be set up to 
 deal with the changes better. For example, a writer could refer to the 
 current version throughout a document and maybe a note at the top  
 would say the current recommended version is 4.5 (July 2014) and so on. 
 Updating the document often would just be changing the 4.5 to 4.6, the 
 date, July 2014 to March 2015, etc.  Anything to help keep the 
 documentation easy to update and provide clues as to what year the 
 documentation was written. 
 
 BTW, Confluence do display the last modified date of a page. But if we 
 only fix a spelling mistake on a two years old document, it will put the 
 date of the last modification.
 
 
 It is too bad we don't have IBM's Watson computer to read the mailing 
 list, extract the juicy bits, assemble a rough draft of documentation, 
 and email it to somebody for proof reading, probably to a Dave.  Next 
 decade?
 
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 5:19 PM, G Brown wrote:
 
 There is also:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WOL/WOLips
 
 Getting Started
 The easiest way to install WOLips is to follow the steps in the Install 
 WOLips with Eclipse Update Manager tutorial. If this is your first time 
 using WOLips, this is the recommended method for installing WOLips.
 
 
 Also the installer should have a list of materials, or a page telling 
 what all it does.
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 I do agree that we need to have an installer that will install Eclipse, 
 WOLips, Wonder and the core WO frameworks. But we did cleanup the wiki 
 a lot a couple of months ago, so I would like to know which pages on 
 the wiki you followed, because this page:
 
 http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Project+Wonder+Installation
 
 does specify that Java is not installed by default on Lion and 
 launching a Java app will install the JVM.
 
 
 G Brown
 gsbr...@umich.edu
 
 
 
 
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Re: JavaMonitor

2012-07-24 Thread Johann Werner
That path should not be mysite.com/WebObjects/Frameworks/... but 
mysite.com/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/Frameworks/...
You could try to set -WOFrameworksBaseURL 
/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/Frameworks explicitly at startup though it is 
strange that it is not set automatically to the correct value. To make your 
life easier: you need only to copy the webserver resources for the frameworks 
Ajax, ERExtensions and JavaWOExtensions to make everything work as expected.

jw


Am 24.07.2012 um 22:13 schrieb WebObjects TORAcom:

 You are right,
 
 I found this error.
 NetworkError: 404 Not Found - 
 http://mysite.com/WebObjects/Frameworks/Ajax.framework/WebServerResources/prototype.js;
 The JavaMonitor application does not have the frameworks embedded?
 
 Should I copy the Framework's WebServerResources to the Web Server folder?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Miguel. 
 
 
 
 On 24/07/2012, at 14:00, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Check the JavaScript console in your browser to see if any errors are there.
 
 Hi,
 
 I downloaded JavaMonitor from 
 http://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/Wonder/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Root/Roots/JavaMonitor.tar.gz
 
 I installed it. It looks great! thanks guys. I just have a problem, it 
 seems that some div's don't work, I assume they should open. This is the 
 image of the areas that don't open:
 
 Screen Shot 2012-07-24 at 13.08.01.png
 I click on HTTP Adaptor Settings and nothing happens.
 
 I tried  with Safari, Chrome and Firefox, mac os X Lion.
 
 Does anybody have the same issue?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Miguel Torres.
 



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