[libreoffice-website] Re: Mirror Latency

[Mas]

I switched the mirror to mirror.nexcess.net and the speed is a lot better.

[image: Inline image 1]


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Mas  wrote:

> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> Noodle.portalus.net is moving VERY slow.  Can we disable this mirror
> temporary
>
> I am on a 60Mbps connection and the download is running 67.8KB
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[libreoffice-website] Mirror Latency

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[image: Inline image 1]


Noodle.portalus.net is moving VERY slow.  Can we disable this mirror
temporary

I am on a 60Mbps connection and the download is running 67.8KB
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Web Administration

[Mas]

Found the agenda on the pad , The times are in which time zone?




On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> Andrew Cassidy wrote on 2013-07-26 10:47:
>
>  So earlier today I stumbled across this page
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-involved/web-**administrators/
>>  and found that
>> you're looking for more people to help out so I thought I'd introduce
>> myself.
>>
>
> thanks a lot for your kind offer and interest! :-)
>
> I'm on the rush, so my reply is brief - but the reason why I am rushing
> comes in handy here! By coincidence, exactly this weekend, we have the
> LibreOffice Admin Weekend, where people can also join remotely. I know it's
> on short notice, but would you have time tomorrow morning (European time)?
>
> All the details are at 
> http://pad.documentfoundation.**org/p/infra
>
> Would be wonderful if you could join! :)
>
> Florian
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Reminder: Admin weekend

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On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> this is just a quick reminder that we have our admin weekend in Essen
> Linuxhotel from July 26 to 28. More details will follow soon, including
> information on how to join a phone conference for new team members who will
> join remotely (this is planned sometime on Saturday).
>
> The rough plan is to start Friday afternoon with getting to know each
> other, and leaving Sunday at lunchtime. Major workday will be the Saturday.
>
> Looking forward to meeting you!
> Florian
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I was looking for the information to join remotely . Are you planning this
for today or tomorrow?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] admin weekend first details

[Mas]

On Jun 4, 2013 8:20 AM, "Florian Effenberger" 
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> here's some first details for the admin weekend end of July, so you can
plan your trips accordingly.
>
> Robert will try to be in the hotel Friday afternoon. I expect that we can
have a small room to begin first introductions and discussions at about
1500. Robert's driving by car from near Munich, maybe it makes sense to
join forces for carpooling.
>
> Alex and I have an event in Munich in the evening and will fly in rather
late, I expect we won't be in the hotel before midnight. Luckily, Robert
volunteered to do the first round of discussions and tasks, so we can be
productive on Friday evening already.
>
> So, in a nutshell, for those attending onsite, it's best to be in the
hotel by 1500 or so.
>
> More to follow soon. ;-)
>
> Florian
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Thanks Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: admin meeting July 26-28

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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Mas  wrote:

> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Florian Effenberger <
> flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good - I also tend to use Hangouts and/or IRC
>>
>> Jean Spiteri wrote on 2013-05-29 16:36:
>>
>>  I will join online. Preferable IRC but Google Hangouts might work as
>>> well.
>>> Please don't use Skype.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>

Actually we may need to really compare Skype and Google Hangout.  Google
has a limit of 10 . Is there a head count yet ?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: admin meeting July 26-28

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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Sounds good - I also tend to use Hangouts and/or IRC
>
> Jean Spiteri wrote on 2013-05-29 16:36:
>
>  I will join online. Preferable IRC but Google Hangouts might work as well.
>> Please don't use Skype.
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Bug 54478] New: Clarity & Grammar issue on front page of LibreOffice.org

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On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

> Le 2012-11-03 13:26, 
> bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.**orga écrit :
>
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/**show_bug.cgi?id=54478<https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54478>
>>
>>Priority: medium
>>  Bug ID: 54478
>>  CC: website@global.libreoffice.org
>>Assignee: 
>> libreoffice-bugs@lists.**freedesktop.org
>> Summary: Clarity&  Grammar issue on front page of
>>  LibreOffice.org
>>Severity: normal
>>  Classification: Unclassified
>>  OS: All
>>Reporter: write2da...@gmail.com
>>Hardware: Other
>>  Status: NEW
>> Version: unspecified
>>   Component: WWW
>> Product: LibreOffice
>>  Ever confirmed: 1
>>  Status: NEW
>>
>> This is a graphic that shows up on the homepage...
>>
>>
>> https://www.libreoffice.org/**assets/Shared/**
>> LibOWebsiteBannersDonationEngl**ish400px.png<https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Shared/LibOWebsiteBannersDonationEnglish400px.png>
>>
>>
>> "operational running" doesn't make sense&  isn't proper grammar
>>
>> --- Comment #1 from Mas  ---
>> I agree, I am going to send this to the website team to update
>>
>> The image is located at the top right hand corner of
>>
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/
>>
>>
> Considering it must fit the space allowed by the image (approx. 72
> characters), some suggestions:
>
>
> "Consider donating to LibreOffice to fund our infrastructure and ..."
>
> or
>
> "Consider donating to LibreOffice to help fund our services and more!"
>
> or
>
> "Help us develop and grow LibreOffice with your generous donations ..."
>
> or
>
> "LibreOffice is growing with your generous contributions ..."
>
> or
>
> "Consider donating to LibreOffice development, infrastructure and ..."
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
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"Help us develop and grow LibreOffice with your generous donations ..."
 :)  This one sounds good


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[libreoffice-website] Website Error- bug reporting module

[Mas]

can someone take a look at

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54187


I believe this bug requires immediate attention.


See my notes in the ticket.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] slow download from dev-builds

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On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Lior Kaplan  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there any throttling mechanism on dev-builds.libreoffice.org ?
>
> When ever I start download I get a high speed (1+ MB/s) which after a few
> minutes goes to less then a 1 KB/s.
>
> Kaplan
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The connect slows down to 1KB/s ?  Are you certain about that. That is VERY
slow. Can you provide any data to support this?  Which file are you
downloading?

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[libreoffice-website] Silverstrip vulnerability 2.4.7 fyi

[Mas]

FYI
everyone.
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/524433

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Re: [libreoffice-website] important note on IPv4 and IPv6 addresses

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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> today, I received the following information from our ISP:
>
>  A maximum of one "/28 Subnet" only can be allocated per server:
>>
>> /29 (6 usable IPs) – 5.40 euros per month (plus Flexi Pack)
>> /28 (14 usable IPs) – 11.20 euros per month (plus Flexi Pack)
>>
>
> We are in the lucky position to have ordered a /27 subnet a few weeks ago,
> but I expect that when we migrate machines, we might be forced to get along
> with less IPs than we have now.
>
> This means that very soon, for any testing virtual machine, we can *not*
> allocate IPv4 addresses anymore, so it will become *mandatory* for those
> involved deeper in infrastructure to deal with IPv6.
>
> I therefore recommend that everyone checks out their IPv6 capability, the
> sooner the better. In case your ISP does not provide native IPv6
> connectivity, mechanisms like 6to4, or alternatively SixXS, can provide
> tunelling.
>
> I am sorry for these new restrictions, but given that IPv4 addresses run
> out worldwide, it was a development to be expected.
>
> Florian
>
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 is there a reason to use so many static ip's versus using subdomains or
named based virtual hosting when needed.

I believe there is plenty of ipv4 subnets available. But the restrictions
are getting tighter from IANA and must be justified.

IPV6 is taking off these days with most service providers starting to
deploy the routes for the prefixes. I think we are a  year or two out
before this becomes standard in all countries.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] TDF Website down

[Mas]

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Christian Lohmaier <
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Eliane, *,
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa
>  wrote:
> > Greetings!
> >
> > I see this:
> >
> >
> >  Down for maintenance - please try again later
>
> Yes, that was me, after I noticed the problem - mysql did run out of
> connections and did cause the problems.
>
> > Please try again in 10 minutes. In the meantime you can browse to our
> wiki
> >  instead.
>
> Turns out that the wiki was actually blocking all the connections...
>
> Should be back to (almost) normal now again.
>
> Sorry for the disturbance...
>
> ciao
> Christian
>
>
>
thanks for the update , so this was for the wiki and TDF website



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Re: [libreoffice-website] TDF Website down

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On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa <
elianedomin...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> I see this:
>
>
>  Down for maintenance - please try again later
>
> The *LibreOffice* website is undergoing a short maintenance. Sorry for the
> inconvenience.
>
> Please try again in 10 minutes. In the meantime you can browse to our wiki
> <http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org>>
> instead.
>
> If you came to download LibreOffice, head over to our download server <
> http://download.**documentfoundation.org/**libreoffice/stable/<http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/>
> >.
>
> Normal operation will resume as soon as possible.
>
> Best
>
> Eliane Domingos de Sousa
> Brazilian LibreOffice Community
>
> lEm 23-09-2012 22:53, Mas escreveu:
>
>  http://www.documentfoundation.**org <http://www.documentfoundation.org>  ?
>>
>>
>> HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error): An unexpected condition was
>> encountered while the server was attempting to fulfill the request.
>>
>>
>>
>
> From my location I am getting a 500 error in IE and Chrome
Was this scheduled? if anyone know

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[libreoffice-website] TDF Website down

[Mas]

http://www.documentfoundation.org   ?


HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error): An unexpected condition was
encountered while the server was attempting to fulfill the request.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Newsletter

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa <
elianedomin...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> The LibreOffice website has a newsletter plugin?
>
> Best,
>
> Eliane Domingos de Sousa
> Brazilian LibreOffice Community
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Are you referring to a module to send out newsletters within the cms?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] DNS issues

[Mas]

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-09-12 14:26:
>
>  I can offer DNS hosting through my Linode account and give TDF Admins
>> access to just the dns portion of the panel. Linode's dns's support both
>> ipv4 and 6 with no restrictions. All you would have to do is point your
>> domain's dns to ns1.linode.com up to ns5.
>>
>> If your interested please let me know and I can create an account
>> immediately for you.
>>
>
> thanks a lot for the kind offer! Sure, send me the credentials via private
> mail (offlist), and I'll have a look!
>
>
> Florian
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Florian ,

Haver you had a chance to check out the setup?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: planned Forum - Coordinator wanted

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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Anton Meixome  wrote:

> 2012/9/12 Marc Paré 
>
> > Le 2012-09-12 05:35, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :
> >
> >
> >>> Getting back to topics etc. we should take that to the discuss list for
> >>> proper discussion before formalizing it. We need to keep everything
> >>> transparent and let people have their say and suggestions. We could
> >>> complete the list on the discussion list along with the discussion
> >>> members
> >>> having their say.
> >>>
> >>> Its not a problem we can take this to the discuss list. I think also is
> >>>
> >> there a way we can do some poll's if needed as that would allow for the
> >> biggest response as people might not possibly be subscribed to the
> discuss
> >> list.
> >>
> >>
> > Yes a poll could be arranged. I think some of the topics will be obvious
> > and there will be no need to poll but we will have to discuss this on the
> > right list rather than adding unnecessary noise on this list. We could
> hold
> > discussions on the discuss and users list to get some suggestions, but,
> if
> > we get too many suggestions, we may have to decide on the topic.
> >
> > We still need a little more time for people to respond to the call for
> > help. It may be a little too quick for now to jump to the choice of
> topics.
> > Maybe in a day or two? This will give us time to organize a "to-do" list.
> >
> > I have to go but should be back in 4-5 hours. Family time -- breakfast,
> > and driving my son to school and a little sleep. I'm in Canada.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >
>
> Galician NL community demands by me a forum instance since we have no
> forums related. Galician will be probably a small forum but we never had a
> galician forum about openoffice in Sun's time. So I don't know which will
> be the impact.
>
> I have speak this topic with galician members offline and ours conclusion
> is that we redirect our communication effort on forum for more visibility
> and accessibility than mail list. It is, we'll priorice the forum.
>
> I have add the galician data on
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Forum-planning#NL_Groups
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antón
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > m...@marcpare.com
> > http://www.parEntreprise.com
> > parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
> > parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org
> >
> >
>

Just a FYI

We may want to remove one of the wiki pages
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Forum-planning

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/UsersForum

I was the only one who added my name to the original
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/UsersForum back in 2011 .


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Wiki page

[Mas]

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

> Hi Mas,
>
> Le 2012-09-12 21:53, Mas a écrit :
>
>
>  Thanks Marc for the update on posting at the bottom. In regards to the
>> user
>> support area. I was thinking about more of knowledgebase type page. So for
>> example I was having some trouble connecting to MySql  from Base. Now the
>> user guide says it can be done but it was lacking some required
>> information
>> . The guide does says JRE and JDBC is required. We should go a step
>> further
>> and maybe telling the end user how to obtain the required components from
>> their environment. Also we should tell then that the class path needs to
>> be
>> updated under either writer, or calc in order for base to work properly.
>> To
>> give everyone a idea what I mean you can check out what I have so far at
>> http://www.openkb.org/connect-**to-mysql-database-from-**
>> libreoffice-base/<http://www.openkb.org/connect-to-mysql-database-from-libreoffice-base/>
>>
>>
>> This site is a open knowledgebase I created. My goal was if I run into a
>> issue then i will post the issue along with the solution so the person can
>> resolve it without doing the research.
>>
>> I posted three either articles at
>> http://www.openkb.org/**category/libreoffice/<http://www.openkb.org/category/libreoffice/>
>>
>> Well my site covers a broad range of issues and solutions. It would be
>> good
>> to have something like this on the official website for LibreOffice or a
>> dedicated wiki page in which I will be happy to help maintain. The users
>> will need to know how to find this information.
>>
>>
> This does sound more like an FAQ item. I am not sure if it would be
> documented in the Base Guide. Maybe before adding it anywhere, you could
> see if whoever is working on the Base Guide would think it is worth
> documenting. Otherwise it could go into an FAQ or added as an entry to the
> Ask.LibreOffice.org. Not sure who you would have to contact for that. I
> know that connectivity with Base and other databases is quite an issue with
> that module.
>
> Re: other knowledge base LibreOffice items. You can probably find a spot
> for them somewhere. Once we get the forums going, this will also add
> another area to post the fixes/tips.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
>
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>
>
>  the FAQ in the wiki or ask.libreoffice.org should work perfectly for my
fix/tip article .. Thanks ,

I agree the website FAQ should be moved under About us instead of Get Help



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Wiki page

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> Le 2012-09-12 20:54, Jean Weber a écrit :
>
>  Good point. I can do that. And in fact, I've now added it and
>> submitted the revised page for publication.
>> --Jean
>>
>>
>>
> I just published the page.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
>
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>
>
>
>
Thanks Marc for the update on posting at the bottom. In regards to the user
support area. I was thinking about more of knowledgebase type page. So for
example I was having some trouble connecting to MySql  from Base. Now the
user guide says it can be done but it was lacking some required information
. The guide does says JRE and JDBC is required. We should go a step further
and maybe telling the end user how to obtain the required components from
their environment. Also we should tell then that the class path needs to be
updated under either writer, or calc in order for base to work properly. To
give everyone a idea what I mean you can check out what I have so far at
http://www.openkb.org/connect-to-mysql-database-from-libreoffice-base/


This site is a open knowledgebase I created. My goal was if I run into a
issue then i will post the issue along with the solution so the person can
resolve it without doing the research.

I posted three either articles at
http://www.openkb.org/category/libreoffice/

Well my site covers a broad range of issues and solutions. It would be good
to have something like this on the official website for LibreOffice or a
dedicated wiki page in which I will be happy to help maintain. The users
will need to know how to find this information.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] DNS issues

[Mas]

I will email you the credentials directly later today so you can take a
look at the setup.


Mas

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Mas wrote on 2012-09-11 16:13:
>
>  I can offer direct access to the zone for now. In the future it may be
>> better to allow you direct access and axfr . The way I have the server
>> configured at the moment is you will need to create the zone on the
>> master.
>> The master will then create a secondary record on our secondary via the
>> datacenter internal network. . I believe this will work great as your
>> primary or secondary solution.
>>
>>   I am showing you have 3 nameservers setup for libreoffice.org. You can
>> use
>> our cluster for ns4 and ns5 or as the primary ns1 , ns2 . I can assist
>> with
>> adding the zones initially and provide access to those who need it.
>>
>> We are running Bind as the DNS Service under CentOS and Ubuntu .
>>
>
> thank you very much again for this kind offer! So, I checked with our
> current ISP hosting our DNS, and sadly, they do not offer zone transfers.
> Since I plan to host the primary DNS ourself soon, this wouldn't be too
> much a problem, since they can always transfer from our DNS then, and so
> could you.
>
> Is it complicated for you to give us direct zone access? If so, I propose
> we'll wait until I have migrated the DNS to our own infrastructure, and
> then we just do zone transfers. Otherwise, feel free to send me the
> required credentials offlist, and I'll have a look. :)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
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Re: [libreoffice-website] DNS issues

[Mas]

Florian,

I can offer direct access to the zone for now. In the future it may be
better to allow you direct access and axfr . The way I have the server
configured at the moment is you will need to create the zone on the master.
The master will then create a secondary record on our secondary via the
datacenter internal network. . I believe this will work great as your
primary or secondary solution.

 I am showing you have 3 nameservers setup for libreoffice.org. You can use
our cluster for ns4 and ns5 or as the primary ns1 , ns2 . I can assist with
adding the zones initially and provide access to those who need it.

We are running Bind as the DNS Service under CentOS and Ubuntu .

Mas

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hi Mas,
>
> Mas wrote on 2012-09-11 14:01:
>
>  I would be interested in offering some dns services to the foundation.
>> let me know if you are interested . No charge
>>
>
> thanks a lot for the kind offer, much appreciated! Can you offer direct
> access to the zone files, or alterantively, a zone transfer from our DNS to
> yours?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Florian
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] DNS issues

[Mas]

Florian,

I would be interested in offering some dns services to the foundation.
let me know if you are interested . No charge

Mas

Florian Effenberger <

> flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > in case you experience some DNS problems, our ISP currently has some
> > glitch: http://www.hetzner-status.de/**en.html#868<
> http://www.hetzner-status.de/en.html#868>
> >
> > We are working on providing an additional, self-hosted DNS in the future.
> >
> > Sorry for any incoveniences,
> > Florian
> >
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[libreoffice-website] Wiki page

[Mas]

Any particular reason why the wiki is not listed on the page at
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/

I recently resolved a issue with getting Base to connect to Mysql and the
first place I went was the Wiki. Sad to say the Wiki did not have the
information I was looking for or the website. I ended up figuring out my
issue after a few hours of banging my head on the table. I am going to post
the issue and resolution on the wiki within a few days. I notice there is
no reference to the wiki from the official website.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] [libreoffice][certificate] is there a possibility to certificate from open source work.

[Mas]

You should not need a certificate for volunteer work. Just mention your
work on the  reference/resume page .

Mas

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM, sn  wrote:

> hi i am sanjib narzary. I am fresh graduate in computer science and
> engineering with information security as specialization in M.Tech. I
> have been maintaining and administering the site brx.libreoffice.org
> during my m tech course for almost one year. I want to ask you a
> question is that is there any possiblity to get the experienced
> certificate what i have done so far so that i can apply for a system
> admin post job in a college in my area so that i can better involved
> in open source work. I have already ccna, mcse certificate and i can
> do all linux admin things, i need only the one year experienced
> certificate so that i can apply for the post.
> Thank you
> sanjib narzary
> m.tech cs/is
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Which version to get?

[Mas]

FYI

a bug ticket has been opened under
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54408


Mas

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Mas  wrote:

> Good find,
>
> Copying the website mailing list on this so someone with access to update
> the page
>
> "Hi all
>
> I just noticed that there were some improvements in the download page.
> Version 3.6.1 is now the default suggested version (unlike what is
> recommended here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan)
>
> But there are some warnings "But since this is the second version in the
> 3.6
> series, please read the release notes (see right)."
>
> On the release notes page you get "LibreOffice 3.6.1 Final (2012-08-29)
> This
> is the second release from the 3.6 branch of LibreOffice.It contains many
> exciting new features, and is the recommended version for early adopters
> and
> power home users. (See this page for LibreOffice 3.5.)"
>
> If you do click on "this page" you arrive at
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download-more/
>
> I think this page needs URGENT updating... Not only it says that the
> previous (and buggy) version 3.6.0 is "Our latest, feature rich version"
> which obviously is not true, but also that version 3.5.5 is the "Previous
> version" (although there is a link to version 3.5.6 further down...)
>
> Obviously this is none of my business, but I'm sure TDF can do better than
> this at promoting this office suite...
> "
>
> Mas
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Pedro  wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I just noticed that there were some improvements in the download page.
>> Version 3.6.1 is now the default suggested version (unlike what is
>> recommended here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan)
>>
>> But there are some warnings "But since this is the second version in the
>> 3.6
>> series, please read the release notes (see right)."
>>
>> On the release notes page you get "LibreOffice 3.6.1 Final (2012-08-29)
>> This
>> is the second release from the 3.6 branch of LibreOffice.It contains many
>> exciting new features, and is the recommended version for early adopters
>> and
>> power home users. (See this page for LibreOffice 3.5.)"
>>
>> If you do click on "this page" you arrive at
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/download-more/
>>
>> I think this page needs URGENT updating... Not only it says that the
>> previous (and buggy) version 3.6.0 is "Our latest, feature rich version"
>> which obviously is not true, but also that version 3.5.5 is the "Previous
>> version" (although there is a link to version 3.5.6 further down...)
>>
>> Obviously this is none of my business, but I'm sure TDF can do better than
>> this at promoting this office suite...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pedro
>>
>>
>>
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Which version to get?

[Mas]

Good find,

Copying the website mailing list on this so someone with access to update
the page

"Hi all

I just noticed that there were some improvements in the download page.
Version 3.6.1 is now the default suggested version (unlike what is
recommended here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan)

But there are some warnings "But since this is the second version in the 3.6
series, please read the release notes (see right)."

On the release notes page you get "LibreOffice 3.6.1 Final (2012-08-29) This
is the second release from the 3.6 branch of LibreOffice.It contains many
exciting new features, and is the recommended version for early adopters and
power home users. (See this page for LibreOffice 3.5.)"

If you do click on "this page" you arrive at
http://www.libreoffice.org/download-more/

I think this page needs URGENT updating... Not only it says that the
previous (and buggy) version 3.6.0 is "Our latest, feature rich version"
which obviously is not true, but also that version 3.5.5 is the "Previous
version" (although there is a link to version 3.5.6 further down...)

Obviously this is none of my business, but I'm sure TDF can do better than
this at promoting this office suite...
"

Mas

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Pedro  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I just noticed that there were some improvements in the download page.
> Version 3.6.1 is now the default suggested version (unlike what is
> recommended here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan)
>
> But there are some warnings "But since this is the second version in the
> 3.6
> series, please read the release notes (see right)."
>
> On the release notes page you get "LibreOffice 3.6.1 Final (2012-08-29)
> This
> is the second release from the 3.6 branch of LibreOffice.It contains many
> exciting new features, and is the recommended version for early adopters
> and
> power home users. (See this page for LibreOffice 3.5.)"
>
> If you do click on "this page" you arrive at
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download-more/
>
> I think this page needs URGENT updating... Not only it says that the
> previous (and buggy) version 3.6.0 is "Our latest, feature rich version"
> which obviously is not true, but also that version 3.5.5 is the "Previous
> version" (although there is a link to version 3.5.6 further down...)
>
> Obviously this is none of my business, but I'm sure TDF can do better than
> this at promoting this office suite...
>
> Regards,
> Pedro
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: official forums

[Mas]

askbot would be good if the mailing list was not available.

I would definitely vote for a more standard type of forum.

Mas

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:05 AM, chimak111  wrote:
> Just wondering ... is there a time limit for deciding? Without meaning to
> sound hurtful, it's possible to "discuss all aspects" to the point that
> momentum is lost.
>
> My vote is for a bog-standard forum, not something exotic or technically
> innovative.
>
> phpBB should be enough. Keep in mind that
> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum uses phpBB. Imagine getting
> people from there, users, volunteers, moderators willing to help out here.
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: official forums

[Mas Walls]

I would be interested in creating the wiki page for the proposals.

After we decide on a platform we can then discuss the hosting options ..

Mas

On Nov 12, 2011 4:07 AM, "Florian Effenberger" <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Olivier R. wrote on 2011-11-12 10:02:
>
>> You should also have a look on bbPress :
>> http://bbpress.org/
>> http://bbpress.org/forums/
>>
>> With this forum, you can tag threads, which is very interesting to
classify
>> topics.
>
>
> let's move over the discussion to the website list. I prefer people
volunteering for having a look at systems and summing up what they can do
for TDF. We can only consider those systems someone investigated, so -
volunteers? ;-)
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Your mailing list thinks my subscription attempt is spam!

[Mas]

Jeremy,

We sent you a email regarding this. Please reply back to the email directly .


Mas

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Jeremy Morton  wrote:
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>
> I'd like to sign up from my ad...@game-point.net address to the
> LibreOffice users mailing list, but whenever I try to send en e-mail
> to users+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org, I get a bounceback from my
> server's Exim telling me that your server rejected my message as spam.
>  Could you investigate why?  The full bounceback, including the
> bounced message headers, is below:
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
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Re: [libreoffice-website] official forums

[Mas]

Another good Forum that should be considered  is YABB . Any forum that
is selected should be hosted on a VM.




Mas

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Fabian Rodriguez
 wrote:
> On 11/11/2011 03:28 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> Hello,
>> []
>> The next steps to me are:
>> 1. Determine which software to use. Some proposals and compilations
>> have come in, namely:
>> [...]
>>     c. http://stackoverflow.com (Alex will provide a VM to test that
>> soon.)
>> [...]
>
> Why is this preferred to Shapado, and why isn't Shapado considered at all ?
> 
>
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> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab
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Re: [libreoffice-website] web site download install type error

[Mas/_gemini]

Sound very simple. But how would you determine if their system uses
rpm or Deb? This information is not transmitted in the request header
of http.


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:43 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions  wrote:
>
> As I said, if you determine that the viewer is using Linux, then display on
> the page below the detected type - ie. 64-bit DEB English - a list of Linux
> distros that their proper type of install.  Maybe state that some system do
> not show their type withing the browser and that you can use this list to
> make sure you choose the correct install version.  You display this message
> every time you detect the viewer is using a Linux OS for their system.  Then
> you have only one detection variable to use.  If Linux display the text,
> otherwise do not.  Simple, right?
>
>
> On 11/11/2011 10:17 AM, Mas/_gemini wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Under Ubuntu 11.04 , you can set the default login on the login screen
>> to ubuntu classic. This will disable unity for that user.  In regards
>> to the download page, I really do not see a way to determine the
>> Distro via the browser unless the code accesses the user system. The
>> distro data is normally included in a file under /etc for example
>> under centos the distro info is in /etc/redhat-release and under
>> ubuntu /etc/lsb-release
>>
>> cat lsb-release
>> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
>> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
>> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
>> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
>>
>>
>> The browser only shows the core kernel data build which is Linux 1386
>> or x64 . Same for windows and Apple.
>>
>> Mas
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press
>> Productions  wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder is there could be some "hint" given on the download page.  It it
>>> detects Linux as the OS, then a text could be displayed with the type of
>>> Linux and its known file type need.  That would help some people who might
>>> get the choice wrong.  I know that would be just a matter of making a list
>>> of the known, or most common, distros of Linux and then matching up whether
>>> it uses DEBs or RPMs for the download.  That should be easy to make the
>>> "case statement" in Javascript, and easy to add more distros as they come to
>>> the forefront of the popular Linux versions.
>>>
>>> As I stated somewhere, Mint is gathering a lot of users [according to an
>>> article] who want Debian/Ubuntu based OS, but do not want to deal with
>>> Unity.  I just tried Unity yesterday and I hate it.  When I end up taking my
>>> Ubuntu 10.xx desktop to a newer Ubuntu-based OS, I will have to go to Mint
>>> if I want to avoid Unity.  I could not find a place to default that Ubuntu
>>> 11.10 system to GNOME that 11.04 defaulted to when it when to from 10.10 to
>>> 11.04 on the upgrade.  The 11.04 to 11.10 decided that it had the resources
>>> that 11.04 stated my system did not have, and defaulted to Unity.  Since
>>> this was a clean install, with no data on the computer, I went to Mint.
>>>  Actually I used Mint's OEM install to see how it was used to set up a
>>> system by a company before it was shipped to the user for them to setup
>>> their own account info.
>>>
>>> On 11/11/2011 09:08 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
>>>> Productions    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/2011 06:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> You can check on this page what the values your browser reports are:
>>>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/ZZRSk/embedded/result/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think that any info can be used to derive "ah, this is a
>>>>>> deb-user", then please share the results :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>  It just was when I went to that page with OSs that were Ubuntu
>>>>> 11.xx based.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if Firefox 4.x and up could be the issue?  I use 3.x.x with
>>>>> Ubuntu
>>>>> 10.xx and the same for Windows.  I do not like the new look for FF and
>>>>> I
>>>>> avoid it if possible.  Ubuntu/Mint 11.xx used FF 4.x.x as its default.
>>>>
>>>> Once again: The info is queried using javascript, and what you get of
>>>> course depends on the browser, as the browser is who gives

[libreoffice-website] Email Block check

[Mas/_gemini]

Can someone with Server access check and determine why this users
email was bounced back?

I did some preliminary checks and the users ip or server ip does not
seem to be blacklisted .

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] web site download install type error

[Mas/_gemini]

Hello,

Under Ubuntu 11.04 , you can set the default login on the login screen
to ubuntu classic. This will disable unity for that user.  In regards
to the download page, I really do not see a way to determine the
Distro via the browser unless the code accesses the user system. The
distro data is normally included in a file under /etc for example
under centos the distro info is in /etc/redhat-release and under
ubuntu /etc/lsb-release

cat lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"


The browser only shows the core kernel data build which is Linux 1386
or x64 . Same for windows and Apple.

Mas

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions  wrote:
>
> I wonder is there could be some "hint" given on the download page.  It it 
> detects Linux as the OS, then a text could be displayed with the type of 
> Linux and its known file type need.  That would help some people who might 
> get the choice wrong.  I know that would be just a matter of making a list of 
> the known, or most common, distros of Linux and then matching up whether it 
> uses DEBs or RPMs for the download.  That should be easy to make the "case 
> statement" in Javascript, and easy to add more distros as they come to the 
> forefront of the popular Linux versions.
>
> As I stated somewhere, Mint is gathering a lot of users [according to an 
> article] who want Debian/Ubuntu based OS, but do not want to deal with Unity. 
>  I just tried Unity yesterday and I hate it.  When I end up taking my Ubuntu 
> 10.xx desktop to a newer Ubuntu-based OS, I will have to go to Mint if I want 
> to avoid Unity.  I could not find a place to default that Ubuntu 11.10 system 
> to GNOME that 11.04 defaulted to when it when to from 10.10 to 11.04 on the 
> upgrade.  The 11.04 to 11.10 decided that it had the resources that 11.04 
> stated my system did not have, and defaulted to Unity.  Since this was a 
> clean install, with no data on the computer, I went to Mint.  Actually I used 
> Mint's OEM install to see how it was used to set up a system by a company 
> before it was shipped to the user for them to setup their own account info.
>
> On 11/11/2011 09:08 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
>> Productions  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/11/2011 06:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>> You can check on this page what the values your browser reports are:
>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/ZZRSk/embedded/result/
>>>>
>>>> If you think that any info can be used to derive "ah, this is a
>>>> deb-user", then please share the results :-)
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>  It just was when I went to that page with OSs that were Ubuntu
>>> 11.xx based.
>>>
>>> I wonder if Firefox 4.x and up could be the issue?  I use 3.x.x with Ubuntu
>>> 10.xx and the same for Windows.  I do not like the new look for FF and I
>>> avoid it if possible.  Ubuntu/Mint 11.xx used FF 4.x.x as its default.
>>
>> Once again: The info is queried using javascript, and what you get of
>> course depends on the browser, as the browser is who gives the reply.
>> And the distribution can be obtained/guessed from the userAgent string
>> at best. But if it is a vanilla, unmodified string, you cannot have
>> any informatin to judge, and hence you need to choose a default.
>>
>>> Could you add to the list Linux Mint as a detected value for DEBs?
>>
>> Does the information shown on the jsfiddle page allow to derive that
>> it is linux Mint that is being used?
>>
>>> Also, I ran that browser detail link and it only showed that the OS was
>>> Linux, not Ubuntu, Mint, DEB or RPM based.
>>
>> So - how would you determine that it is linux mint? If you know a way, share 
>> it.
>> Once it is know that mint is used, the debs can be chosen.
>>
>> But the problem is that you cannot tell whether the user is running
>> mint, fedora, debian, mandriva, mageia,  unless there is a hint in
>> the useragent string. And historically only debian and ubuntu who
>> copied many things from debian did have a modified useragent string.
>>
>> Again: If you know a way to derive information about the
>> distro/deb/rpm by means of javascript, then please share it and it
>> will be added.
>>
>> ciao
>> Christian
>>
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[libreoffice-website] PDF Importer

[Mas/_gemini]

Does anyone know if there are plans to add the pdf importer to the website
extensions page?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: web help

[Mas/_gemini]

Thanks Erich, Christian

The areas I can possibly help with would be Server Maintenance, Site
maintenance(php,html,css) and Bug triage(QA).  I am familiar with Graphics
but its not something I really enjoy doing. I have not used silverstrip but
I downloaded it and will be reviewing their code. I mostly code using the
Code Igniter . Helping with documentation could be a option also.

Let me know your thoughts.


Mas

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Christian Lohmaier <
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi *,
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Mas/_gemini 
> wrote:
> > I am looking to get involved with this project.  what areas are needed?
>
> Hard to tell as you don't specify what your "area of expertise"
> is/what you would like to work on.
>
> But currently we're looking for someone to implement the downloadpage
> proposal into html+css so it can be added to silverstripe.
>
> See the mockups here:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Download_Page
>
> For this, you'd know html and css.
>
> If you're more the graphics type of person and would like to create
> something like a webbanner, we could use one that promotes the various
> native-lang sites.
>
> If you're more confident with working with words, then feel free to
> suggest any additional page you want, don't be shy to point to any
> errors or missing information.
>
> If you know php, then one could work in extending the CMS to make it
> more comfortable for the native-lang admins. What they keep requesting
> (and where I always reply that I'm going to add it - sorry for still
> not bringing my ass up to it) would be a way for them to at least see
> the list of members on their subsite (and then as extension of that to
> be able to add members themselves, instead of having to post here and
> have site-admins add them). (we use silverstripe as CMS, so if you're
> willing to dig into creating this management view, then you're more
> than welcome)
>
> Another php and page-templated related item is to add the possibility
> for the NL-sites to include their own twitter and planet feeds on the
> homepage.
>
> We're currently not looking for general server maintenance people though.
>
> So sum-up we could need:
> * css/html
> * banner/graphics
> * editorial stuff (review content/check whether pages are up-to-date,
> whether stuff is missing)
> * php/CMS work
>
> If you're interested in any of the above just pick one :-)
> If this reply is not what you had in mind, please tell us what area
> you were thinking of - the list above is not complete, just what came
> up to my mind right now...
>
> ciao
> Christian
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[libreoffice-website] Re: web help

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I am looking to get involved with this project.  what areas are needed?


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