Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-10-04 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Drew,

drew wrote on 2011-09-26 18:56:


Alight - well, I created 4 pages, the en base page and 3 translation
pages.
[none of which are currently published]


thanks a lot!


http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate
This is the base page in en-US language


My proposal would be to attach those pages to the local LibreOffice 
pages, i.e.


www.libreoffice.org/donate
de.libreoffice.org/spenden
fr.libreoffice.org/don
ru.libreoffice.org/жертвовать (Google translate ;-)

The challenge website and URL will vanish soon.


A couple of problems - first the paypal form. Not quite sure how to set
that up: I designated the page type for the new pages as user form,
then tried to copy the html for the form along with the rest of the
content, but the form stuff is simply stripped out...I suppose this is
simply a case of where you must do it via the CMS UI - so not a big
thing really.


IIRC, you need to create a page of the type DonatePage and then use 
$PayPalTDF as keyword/macro.



However when I created the RU and FR pages I am not able to edit
content, each page is read-only for me (in fact in the CMS the page is
listed as hidden]...I have no idea what is up with that really?


Erich: Maybe you can help? IMHO, it is about missing rights in CMS?


Anyway - I did notice that on the challenge site a few of the translated
pages are out of date, still showing OOoDev information for example...so
that is something that needs attention and I have no access to that area
so can't help with that.


Indeed, we have to work on these. I fixed a few of them, but probably 
didn't spot all.


Thanks, Drew!

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-10-03 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-09-27 15:27:


As soon as the paperwork is done, then somehow, somewhere, having items
to sell that will see money from it go into TDF/LO's accounts for
running the business and marketing the product will be helpful.  Can you
imagine what it would be like to go to a software convention, or other
type, with 10 or more people wearing logo shirts with some great phrase
about why you should switch to LO?  People see it and might wonder what
it is and then look it up at home, or come over to talk to one of the
people wearing the shirts.  It would be interesting to find a place that
offers good prices on placing a large logo on the back of a light jacket
or sweatshirt, with something on the front as well.  Walk down the
street, people follow and see the logo with a URL.


having merchandise for the team members and for externals to buy is 
definitely on the agenda. We have already been looking into shop 
options, and having local NGOs producing and selling merchandise 
materials is also on our agenda. :)


Just takes some time, but definitely is an important part of marketing.

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-10-03 Thread Leif Lodahl
2011/10/3 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hi,

 webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-09-27 15:27:


  ...10 or more people wearing logo shirts with some great phrase
 about why you should switch to LO?  People see it and might wonder what
 it is and then look it up at home, or come over to talk to one of the
 people wearing the shirts.  ..


 having merchandise for the team members and for externals to buy is
 definitely on the agenda. We have already been looking into shop options,
 and having local NGOs producing and selling merchandise materials is also on
 our agenda. :)


FYI I have been experimenting a little with
http://libreoffice.spreadshirt.dk  . The site is not public yet, but so far
all revinue goes to the Danish community.


 Just takes some time, but definitely is an important part of marketing.


 Florian


Cheers,
Leif

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-10-03 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Right now, I am looking into a company that is doing Polo shirts, with 
embroidered logos, for under $5 each.  I will be buying some for testing 
how good they are, but with a different organization's logo on it.  
These will be for hand-outs using an internal raffle, so the low price 
is good.  Hopefully the quality is good.


So, if someone like me would order a number of polo shirts, and other 
items with the LO logo on them, then sells some, WHO is the USA person 
who does the marketing for this region.  Who is in charge or tries to 
coordinate the shows that are in this region of the world?


If someone earns money for the USA region with the idea of some of it 
going to USA/Canada marketing, who would be the person that would get 
the money to distribute it towards the marketing costs for the shows and 
events of this region?


Now that there is a donation site being worked on for LO 
[International], I am wondering about regional marketing monies 
donations, when they come.



On 10/03/2011 02:51 AM, Leif Lodahl wrote:

2011/10/3 Florian Effenbergerflo...@documentfoundation.org


Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-09-27 15:27:


  ...10 or more people wearing logo shirts with some great phrase

about why you should switch to LO?  People see it and might wonder what
it is and then look it up at home, or come over to talk to one of the
people wearing the shirts.  ..


having merchandise for the team members and for externals to buy is
definitely on the agenda. We have already been looking into shop options,
and having local NGOs producing and selling merchandise materials is also on
our agenda. :)


FYI I have been experimenting a little with
http://libreoffice.spreadshirt.dk  . The site is not public yet, but so far
all revinue goes to the Danish community.



Just takes some time, but definitely is an important part of marketing.


Florian



Cheers,
Leif




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-10-03 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-10-03 14:41:


So, if someone like me would order a number of polo shirts, and other
items with the LO logo on them, then sells some, WHO is the USA person
who does the marketing for this region.  Who is in charge or tries to
coordinate the shows that are in this region of the world?


the topic of local NGOs and money collection is one of the topics for 
the Paris conference. For coordinating on events, we have a dedicated 
marketing@us mailing list where many US marketeers are subscribed to ;)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-10-03 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Leif Lodahl wrote on 2011-10-03 08:51:

FYI I have been experimenting a little with
http://libreoffice.spreadshirt.dk   . The site is not public yet, but so far
all revinue goes to the Danish community.


thanks! Maybe you can share your experience with us, how things went, if 
you'd recommend Spreadshirt? Thorsten Behrens IMHO is looking into 
various options, and we could benefit from your experience ;)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-27 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-09-26 16:21:


Since I was told that the donations was for the German location, server,
marketing, etc., I was wondering if that was true? To be honest, I know
there is a need to pay for the running of servers and other things that
the TDF/LO needs as an organization it is currently. Things cost money
and it should not be required for individuals to foot the bills for a
professional organization. Bandwidth and electricity are two monthly
bills that everyone can agree on that needs money to keep things going.
Then there are fees involved with the government paperwork for setting
up and running an organization.


I agree, we didn't point our the latest spendings to the lists - I am 
sorry for that, and that surely will be done.


The main investments currently have been for trademarks, professional 
law services, the crosscompiling development work we've been discussing 
on steering-discuss@, the LibOCon (dito) and some infrastructure.



For me personally, I would like to see some donations go into regional
marketing, if possible.

I know that there were many shows that LO people were at in the
USA/Canada region and they really could have used some marking dollars
to print up banners, print up brochures, make give aways [CDs/DVDs,
key-chains, shirts, etc.], and any other item needed for having a good
looking table at a show.


Definitely, we need to find a way to provide money for community 
activities. Right now, it is easy: We simply don't have enough money. I 
plan a second round of fundraising, but I want the foundation to be 
established for that, because the foundation is what we promised for the 
first round, and I first like to make that happen before asking for 
money again. :-) (BTW, a status update on the foundation will be blogged 
soon. Thinks do look good.)


In parallel, we should evaluate how to cooperate with local NGOs and 
teams, how to collect and distribute money. This is something on the 
agenda for the Paris conference.


Hope that helps a bit ;)
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-26 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

drew wrote on 2011-09-25 17:11:


I read over the challenge site again last night (early this morning) and
it really does rather make it sound like there is not much need for more
$$$ when we all know reality is always closer to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOidHfvOCs


;-)


I could put a temporary English page, for now, on the LibreOffice site -
set to _not_ display a menu.


Ok, sounds good. How about you set-up such a page at 
www.libreoffice.org/donate and we use this as a translateable basis for 
all other language projects? We could e.g. translate this to 
de.libreoffice.org/spenden and the like.


The basic information needed is at 
http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate/


I would then, as soon as the translated pages are ready, redirect the 
challenge website there.


Does that sound sensible?

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-26 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:14 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 drew wrote on 2011-09-25 17:11:
 
  I read over the challenge site again last night (early this morning) and
  it really does rather make it sound like there is not much need for more
  $$$ when we all know reality is always closer to:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOidHfvOCs
 
 ;-)
 
  I could put a temporary English page, for now, on the LibreOffice site -
  set to _not_ display a menu.
 
 Ok, sounds good. How about you set-up such a page at 
 www.libreoffice.org/donate and we use this as a translateable basis for 
 all other language projects? We could e.g. translate this to 
 de.libreoffice.org/spenden and the like.
 
 The basic information needed is at 
 http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate/
 
 I would then, as soon as the translated pages are ready, redirect the 
 challenge website there.
 
 Does that sound sensible?


Sure, will do that this morning then.




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-26 Thread Florian Effenberger

Thanks a lot, much appreciated!

drew wrote on 2011-09-26 13:52:

Sure, will do that this morning then.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-26 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 07:52 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:14 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  Hi,
  
  drew wrote on 2011-09-25 17:11:
  
   I read over the challenge site again last night (early this morning) and
   it really does rather make it sound like there is not much need for more
   $$$ when we all know reality is always closer to:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOidHfvOCs
  
  ;-)
  
   I could put a temporary English page, for now, on the LibreOffice site -
   set to _not_ display a menu.
  
  Ok, sounds good. How about you set-up such a page at 
  www.libreoffice.org/donate and we use this as a translateable basis for 
  all other language projects? We could e.g. translate this to 
  de.libreoffice.org/spenden and the like.
  
  The basic information needed is at 
  http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate/
  

Alight - well, I created 4 pages, the en base page and 3 translation
pages.
[none of which are currently published]

http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate
This is the base page in en-US language

http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate-de
the de translation page

http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate-fr
the fr translation page

http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/donate-ru
the ru translation page

A couple of problems - first the paypal form. Not quite sure how to set
that up: I designated the page type for the new pages as user form,
then tried to copy the html for the form along with the rest of the
content, but the form stuff is simply stripped out...I suppose this is
simply a case of where you must do it via the CMS UI - so not a big
thing really.

Second, the translation pages, I thought to just give others a little
head start - but:

When I created the DE page no problem, I was able to edit content and
brought the DE text over, changed the page display name, etc.

However when I created the RU and FR pages I am not able to edit
content, each page is read-only for me (in fact in the CMS the page is
listed as hidden]...I have no idea what is up with that really?

Anyway - I did notice that on the challenge site a few of the translated
pages are out of date, still showing OOoDev information for example...so
that is something that needs attention and I have no access to that area
so can't help with that.

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote (26-09-11 16:21)


For me personally, I would like to see some donations go into regional
marketing, if possible.


You are not alone in that.
Ideas to make that happen are on the steering discuss list :-)



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[libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-25 Thread drew
Hi,

Taking a little proactive step here in response to some recent
discussion regarding the continued use of the challenge site for
soliciting donations.

I've taken the liberty of changing the LibreOffice home page,
specifically the URL used for the right hand banner link to:

http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/

as a short term (maybe longer?) fix.

I have saved the change in the CMS but have not published the page - if
there are no objections I'll plan on doing that later today. 

Thanks,

//drew




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Drew,

drew wrote on 2011-09-25 08:46:


I've taken the liberty of changing the LibreOffice home page,
specifically the URL used for the right hand banner link to:

http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/

as a short term (maybe longer?) fix.


thanks a lot for the initiative - the donations topic really is 
something we need to work on, but I personally miss time. :/


A while ago, Bernhard or Christoph (I think the latter one, but I don't 
recall exactly) asked me to set up donate.documentfoundation.org to be 
used as future donations page. It exists, but points to the challenge 
site at the moment.


So, the question is, whether we want to have a subdomain or a path name. 
I think indeed it might be easier to have www.tdf/donate as global 
donations page, and lang-code.libreoffice.org/local-donate-translation 
(like de.libreoffice.org/spenden or fr.libreoffice.org/donner) as local 
donations addresses.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Changing donation URL on LibO homepage

2011-09-25 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 12:25 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote:
 Hi Florian, Drew, all!
 
 Am Sonntag, den 25.09.2011, 12:05 +0200 schrieb Florian Effenberger:
  Hi Drew,
  
  drew wrote on 2011-09-25 08:46:
  
   I've taken the liberty of changing the LibreOffice home page,
   specifically the URL used for the right hand banner link to:
  
   http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/
  
   as a short term (maybe longer?) fix.
  
  thanks a lot for the initiative - the donations topic really is 
  something we need to work on, but I personally miss time. :/

Hi Florian, Christoph

Yup - well, I read all those same, earlier, emails about this and
promptly sat on my hands.

I read over the challenge site again last night (early this morning) and
it really does rather make it sound like there is not much need for more
$$$ when we all know reality is always closer to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOidHfvOCs

 
 Same on my side ... but just the small comment that contribution (in
 terms of donating) might be misleading within a FLOSS project.

Perhaps, but I would like to apply a band aid for today :-/

Although I think there is merit in again reminding people that sweat
equity is rather important also.

 
  A while ago, Bernhard or Christoph (I think the latter one, but I don't 
  recall exactly) asked me to set up donate.documentfoundation.org to be 
  used as future donations page. It exists, but points to the challenge 
  site at the moment.
 
 Yep, we discussed that ... the idea was to simply replace the outdated
 challenge-site link.
 
  So, the question is, whether we want to have a subdomain or a path name. 
  I think indeed it might be easier to have www.tdf/donate as global 
  donations page, and lang-code.libreoffice.org/local-donate-translation 
  (like de.libreoffice.org/spenden or fr.libreoffice.org/donner) as local 
  donations addresses.

I could put a temporary English page, for now, on the LibreOffice site -
set to _not_ display a menu.

This morning I perused a few other sites going over their well thought
out pitches...putting a draft together and copying the paypal link
(stuff) form one of the existing pages on tdf.org should not take very
long - if that is more pleasing to folks. 

//drew


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