Re: [weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Liz
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 22:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Robin  wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> This just compounds my confusion. How does WeeWX get from Davis local
> time to UTC? Can't WeeWX take DST into account during the conversion? 


My solution is to leave the weather station on standard time. 
If I read the console I want to know "right now" or "how much rain to
now"
Then my server, which runs weewx, looks after all the time changes for
the display. 
This is also the laziest solution.


Liz

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Robin
Tom,

This just compounds my confusion. How does WeeWX get from Davis local time 
to UTC? Can't WeeWX take DST into account during the conversion? 

On Friday, 28 October 2016 18:43:03 UTC+3, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Robin > 
> wrote:
>
>> That bit I understand Tom. The bit that confuses me is, I thought that 
>> WeeWX stored the data using UTC. 
>>
>>
> ​It does. But, first it has to get the data off the logger.
>
> ​One thing you could try is to set record_generation=software for the 
> transition night. Then set it back to hardware in the morning. I haven't 
> tried this, but it might work.
>
> -tk​
>  
>

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Re: [weewx-user] How to use humidex, apparent temperature, evapotranspiration, cloud base and maximum solar radiation?

2016-10-28 Thread gjr80
Hi,

You will find the formula use for Apparent Temperature here 
. If you 
understand python you will find the weewx implementation of this formula in 
the file wxformulas.py which, depending on your install, you will most 
likely find in the /home/weewx/bin/weewx or /usr/share/weewx directory. You 
can easily include the calculations in your template. weewx does calculate 
Apparent Temperature and inlcudes it in each archive record and loop packet 
but if you wish to use these values (ie without calculating them yourself) 
you will need to alter your setup to save appTemp to your weewx archive, in 
effect you would need to do most of the steps here 
 (you 
can skip the first, weewx already does this). If you search the forums you 
may find further info, I seem to remember this has been asked (or something 
similar) before.

Gary

On Saturday, 29 October 2016 06:32:04 UTC+10, herve FRELAT wrote:
>
> Hello Tom
> I'm trying to use apparent temp on my site http://meteoguibeville.free.fr 
> but I can't find algorithm for calculate it and link of sourceforge is 
> inactive .
> Can you help me ?
> Thanks for help and sorry for my Englis (I'french)
>
> H.frelat
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Weewx to weatherdisplay

2016-10-28 Thread gjr80
If you do get WD to import a weewx-wd generated clientraw.txt just keep in 
the back of your mind that the clientraw.txt file is only generated each 
report cycle ie every archive interval, whereas traditionally clientraw.txt 
is generated much more frequently by the likes of WD and other programs. 
Consider it a bit like archive records and loop packets. Without knowing 
anything about how WD accepts clientraw.txt in client mode this may or may 
not cause an issue. Suck it and see I guess, but like I said keep it in the 
back of your mind.

Gary

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Re: [weewx-user] How to use humidex, apparent temperature, evapotranspiration, cloud base and maximum solar radiation?

2016-10-28 Thread herve FRELAT
Hello Tom
I'm trying to use apparent temp on my site http://meteoguibeville.free.fr but I 
can't find algorithm for calculate it and link of sourceforge is inactive .
Can you help me ?
Thanks for help and sorry for my Englis (I'french)

H.frelat

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[weewx-user] Re: Weewx to weatherdisplay

2016-10-28 Thread Andy
use smbclient in cron on the raspberrypi to put the file on the windows 
machine every so many minutes

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 10:49:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Whimick wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Has any one managed to conect Weatherdisplay windows version to weewx, so 
> WD recieves it's data from weewx through a home network.
>
> I have installed and have running the weewxwd-1.0.0 extention, but so fare 
> not been able to work how to connect WD to the clientraw.txt in my 
> Raspberry Pi
>
> If you can please can please can you explain how to do it.
> Regards Whimick
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Weewx to weatherdisplay

2016-10-28 Thread Andrew Milner
Maybe this would help:
http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php?topic=11225.0

describes how to use the clientraw.txt file as an input I believe - so if 
weewx produces that file (which I can do) then weatherdisplay should be 
able to use it according to the linkpage

Mike - there is an outstanding question on the weather display forum which 
you have not answered asking if you have a webserver running on the rpi.







On Friday, 28 October 2016 20:39:15 UTC+3, Tom Keffer wrote:

> Easy there dude. If he wants to keep his old WD display, that's his 
> business. 
>
> As for posting to weewx-user, his query was whether anyone had done such a 
> thing, not on the programming to do so.
>
> -tk
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Andrew Milner  > wrote:
>
>> Why on earth would anyone want to export data to weatherdisplay - instead 
>> of to a more universal site such as WU??
>>
>> What is the benefit and purpose for exporting to weaherdisplay which 
>> cannot be achieved by other more generic means??
>>
>> What exactly are you trying to achieve - apart from just trying to see if 
>> something is possible .
>>
>> As I keep on saying to you Mike - the development forum may be more 
>> suitable for your somewhat esoteric/'ideas'/thoughts/developments rather 
>> than the users forum which is more geared towards day-to-day issues and 
>> problems which people have from the normal running of weewx.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> IF you want to see the data from a 
>> On Friday, 28 October 2016 19:24:35 UTC+3, Mike Whimick wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thankyou Gary for your reply.
>>>
>>> I lke Weewx sinse its runs on a Raspberry Pi, something that the full 
>>> version of WeatherDisplay does not.
>>>
>>> For the past 10 years I have been using a Oregon Scientific WMR200 
>>> weather station connected to my PC, which has verved me well.   Sadly many 
>>> of its sensors are coming the the end of their of lfe, so I had a needed to 
>>> decide whether to replace it with another shop bought station or try and 
>>> make one.
>>>
>>> I chose the latter, and have almost finished writing a python weewx 
>>> driver which is being used with a GrovePI+ board , Switchdoc labs 
>>> weatherboard and Raspberry Pi3 and various sensors.   
>>>
>>> Since both the station are Weewx are worthing well, I would now like 
>>> Weewx to send data from my Raspberry Pi to the PC that has WeatherDisplay 
>>> running on it.  At this moment in time I have not been able to workout a 
>>> method that works.  I have tried weewxwd-1.0.0 extention, sadly it does not 
>>> seem to work with WD, so I need and alternative method.
>>>
>>> I would be interested hearing form anyone who may have mannaged to get 
>>> Weewx to export data to WD.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Weewx to weatherdisplay

2016-10-28 Thread Thomas Keffer
Easy there dude. If he wants to keep his old WD display, that's his
business.

As for posting to weewx-user, his query was whether anyone had done such a
thing, not on the programming to do so.

-tk

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Andrew Milner  wrote:

> Why on earth would anyone want to export data to weatherdisplay - instead
> of to a more universal site such as WU??
>
> What is the benefit and purpose for exporting to weaherdisplay which
> cannot be achieved by other more generic means??
>
> What exactly are you trying to achieve - apart from just trying to see if
> something is possible .
>
> As I keep on saying to you Mike - the development forum may be more
> suitable for your somewhat esoteric/'ideas'/thoughts/developments rather
> than the users forum which is more geared towards day-to-day issues and
> problems which people have from the normal running of weewx.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> IF you want to see the data from a
> On Friday, 28 October 2016 19:24:35 UTC+3, Mike Whimick wrote:
>
>>
>> Thankyou Gary for your reply.
>>
>> I lke Weewx sinse its runs on a Raspberry Pi, something that the full
>> version of WeatherDisplay does not.
>>
>> For the past 10 years I have been using a Oregon Scientific WMR200
>> weather station connected to my PC, which has verved me well.   Sadly many
>> of its sensors are coming the the end of their of lfe, so I had a needed to
>> decide whether to replace it with another shop bought station or try and
>> make one.
>>
>> I chose the latter, and have almost finished writing a python weewx
>> driver which is being used with a GrovePI+ board , Switchdoc labs
>> weatherboard and Raspberry Pi3 and various sensors.
>>
>> Since both the station are Weewx are worthing well, I would now like
>> Weewx to send data from my Raspberry Pi to the PC that has WeatherDisplay
>> running on it.  At this moment in time I have not been able to workout a
>> method that works.  I have tried weewxwd-1.0.0 extention, sadly it does not
>> seem to work with WD, so I need and alternative method.
>>
>> I would be interested hearing form anyone who may have mannaged to get
>> Weewx to export data to WD.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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[weewx-user] Re: Weewx to weatherdisplay

2016-10-28 Thread Andrew Milner
Why on earth would anyone want to export data to weatherdisplay - instead 
of to a more universal site such as WU??

What is the benefit and purpose for exporting to weaherdisplay which cannot 
be achieved by other more generic means??

What exactly are you trying to achieve - apart from just trying to see if 
something is possible .

As I keep on saying to you Mike - the development forum may be more 
suitable for your somewhat esoteric/'ideas'/thoughts/developments rather 
than the users forum which is more geared towards day-to-day issues and 
problems which people have from the normal running of weewx.






IF you want to see the data from a 
On Friday, 28 October 2016 19:24:35 UTC+3, Mike Whimick wrote:

>
> Thankyou Gary for your reply.
>
> I lke Weewx sinse its runs on a Raspberry Pi, something that the full 
> version of WeatherDisplay does not.
>
> For the past 10 years I have been using a Oregon Scientific WMR200 weather 
> station connected to my PC, which has verved me well.   Sadly many of its 
> sensors are coming the the end of their of lfe, so I had a needed to decide 
> whether to replace it with another shop bought station or try and make one.
>
> I chose the latter, and have almost finished writing a python weewx driver 
> which is being used with a GrovePI+ board , Switchdoc labs weatherboard and 
> Raspberry Pi3 and various sensors.   
>
> Since both the station are Weewx are worthing well, I would now like Weewx 
> to send data from my Raspberry Pi to the PC that has WeatherDisplay running 
> on it.  At this moment in time I have not been able to workout a method 
> that works.  I have tried weewxwd-1.0.0 extention, sadly it does not seem 
> to work with WD, so I need and alternative method.
>
> I would be interested hearing form anyone who may have mannaged to get 
> Weewx to export data to WD.
>
> Michael
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Weewx to weatherdisplay

2016-10-28 Thread 'Mike Whimick' via weewx-user

Thankyou Gary for your reply.

I lke Weewx sinse its runs on a Raspberry Pi, something that the full 
version of WeatherDisplay does not.

For the past 10 years I have been using a Oregon Scientific WMR200 weather 
station connected to my PC, which has verved me well.   Sadly many of its 
sensors are coming the the end of their of lfe, so I had a needed to decide 
whether to replace it with another shop bought station or try and make one.

I chose the latter, and have almost finished writing a python weewx driver 
which is being used with a GrovePI+ board , Switchdoc labs weatherboard and 
Raspberry Pi3 and various sensors.   

Since both the station are Weewx are worthing well, I would now like Weewx 
to send data from my Raspberry Pi to the PC that has WeatherDisplay running 
on it.  At this moment in time I have not been able to workout a method 
that works.  I have tried weewxwd-1.0.0 extention, sadly it does not seem 
to work with WD, so I need and alternative method.

I would be interested hearing form anyone who may have mannaged to get 
Weewx to export data to WD.

Michael

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Andrew Milner
Tom - out of curiosity (as I can only aspire to and dream of a Davis) - 
what would be lost by Davis stations using software generation instead of 
hardware?  I know that on \FineOffset I have always used software 
generation and ignored the archived records on the station.  One can always 
revert to the logged records when/if in a recovery mode of some kind, but 
for general useage surely software generation makes sense - doesn't it??


On Friday, 28 October 2016 18:43:03 UTC+3, Tom Keffer wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Robin > 
> wrote:
>
>> That bit I understand Tom. The bit that confuses me is, I thought that 
>> WeeWX stored the data using UTC. 
>>
>>
> ​It does. But, first it has to get the data off the logger.
>
> ​One thing you could try is to set record_generation=software for the 
> transition night. Then set it back to hardware in the morning. I haven't 
> tried this, but it might work.
>
> -tk​
>  
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Thomas Keffer
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Robin  wrote:

> That bit I understand Tom. The bit that confuses me is, I thought that
> WeeWX stored the data using UTC.
>
>
​It does. But, first it has to get the data off the logger.

​One thing you could try is to set record_generation=software for the
transition night. Then set it back to hardware in the morning. I haven't
tried this, but it might work.

-tk​

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Robin
That bit I understand Tom. The bit that confuses me is, I thought that 
WeeWX stored the data using UTC. 

On Friday, 28 October 2016 18:32:43 UTC+3, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Robin > 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a Davis Vantage Pro 2.
>>
>> As pointed out in the link you posted, the issue is the time stamp. Last 
>> year I seem to recall an hours worth of errors as WeeWX tried to write 
>> records to a time stamp that already existed and therefore 'lost' the data. 
>> I like an easy life so was hoping that somebody had figured out a way to 
>> avoid this lost data. It might be insignificant, but if we get a major 
>> weather event at that time
>>
>>
> ​If there is a way around this limitation, I haven't figured it out 
> without either adding a ton of complexity, or giving something else up.
>  
>
>> To be honest I still get a headache trying to understand the local 
>> time/UTC problem, but I am easily confused.
>>
>>
> ​Pretty simple: when DST goes away, your logger will store two records 
> with identical time stamps and no way to tell them apart. ​
>  
> ​This is because the logger stores records in *local* time.
>
> -tk​
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Thomas Keffer
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Robin  wrote:

> I have a Davis Vantage Pro 2.
>
> As pointed out in the link you posted, the issue is the time stamp. Last
> year I seem to recall an hours worth of errors as WeeWX tried to write
> records to a time stamp that already existed and therefore 'lost' the data.
> I like an easy life so was hoping that somebody had figured out a way to
> avoid this lost data. It might be insignificant, but if we get a major
> weather event at that time
>
>
​If there is a way around this limitation, I haven't figured it out without
either adding a ton of complexity, or giving something else up.


> To be honest I still get a headache trying to understand the local
> time/UTC problem, but I am easily confused.
>
>
​Pretty simple: when DST goes away, your logger will store two records with
identical time stamps and no way to tell them apart. ​

​This is because the logger stores records in *local* time.

-tk​

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[weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Robin
I have a Davis Vantage Pro 2.

As pointed out in the link you posted, the issue is the time stamp. Last 
year I seem to recall an hours worth of errors as WeeWX tried to write 
records to a time stamp that already existed and therefore 'lost' the data. 
I like an easy life so was hoping that somebody had figured out a way to 
avoid this lost data. It might be insignificant, but if we get a major 
weather event at that time

To be honest I still get a headache trying to understand the local time/UTC 
problem, but I am easily confused.



On Friday, 28 October 2016 08:20:34 UTC+3, Robin wrote:
>
> Daylight savings time ends this weekend. I recall experiencing problems 
> last year.
>
> What is the current 'best practice'and advice?
>
> Thank you.
> Robin
>
>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread Andrew Milner
Robin . what does the user guide say - or perhaps the hardware guide 
since any issues will be weather station specific.

On Friday, 28 October 2016 17:34:38 UTC+3, vince wrote:
>
> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 10:20:34 PM UTC-7, Robin wrote:
>>
>> Daylight savings time ends this weekend. I recall experiencing problems 
>> last year.
>>
>> What is the current 'best practice'and advice?
>>
>>
> What do you recall experiencing ? 
>
> My best practice is to turn the clocks back one hour, and get one hour 
> more sleep :-)
>
> My recollection is that the problems people run into are more annoyances 
> than significant things.  One description I found was 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/weewx-user/dst%7Csort:date/weewx-user/5mNBQwKrWPI/4yUYdt44AgAJ
>  
> explaining how Davis does time and what it affects hypothetically.
>  
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Current wisdom on the end of DST

2016-10-28 Thread vince
On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 10:20:34 PM UTC-7, Robin wrote:
>
> Daylight savings time ends this weekend. I recall experiencing problems 
> last year.
>
> What is the current 'best practice'and advice?
>
>
What do you recall experiencing ? 

My best practice is to turn the clocks back one hour, and get one hour more 
sleep :-)

My recollection is that the problems people run into are more annoyances 
than significant things.  One description I found 
was 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/weewx-user/dst%7Csort:date/weewx-user/5mNBQwKrWPI/4yUYdt44AgAJ
 
explaining how Davis does time and what it affects hypothetically.
 

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[weewx-user] Re: Attempting to use a Pete Bros. Ultimeter2100 on a RPi3 with a serial to usb converter

2016-10-28 Thread Ralph Underwood
Thanks, that got me to a point where WeeWx is running and the log says it 
is ftp'ing. Nothing on the web page. 

Have to go to work for a while and then I will attack it again.

Thanks.


On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:06:50 PM UTC-7, mwall wrote:
>
> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 9:15:45 PM UTC-4, Ralph Underwood wrote:
>>
>> Oct 27 17:24:15 raspberrypi weewx[6672]: engine: Unable to load driver: 
>> could not open port /dev/ttyUSB0: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
>> '/dev/ttyUSB0'
>>
>
> hi ralph,
>
> it looks like your rpi does not have the kernel module installed for the 
> usb-serial converter that you are using.
>
> you could try updating your pi to the latest kernel with 'sudo rpi-update'
>
> otherwise you might have to build the kernel module yourself
>
> when the pi is working properly you should see /dev/ttyUSB0 when you plug 
> in the usb-serial converter
>
> m
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: No data from station

2016-10-28 Thread 'Roland Ehle' via weewx-user
Thank you Matthew. After some more digging and testing I came to the 
conclusion: It is not weewx itself that causes the issue, but the WMR300 
driver for some reason. I downgraded to weewx 3.5.0 and everything worked 
fine. After copying the WMR300 driver files I upgraded again to the latest 
version and the issue was present again until I copied the driver version 
0.10 to the location /usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers.

So, after all, I have a working configuration :-) Thanks for your support

Regards,
Roland

Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2016 23:32:09 UTC+2 schrieb vince:

> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 1:12:29 PM UTC-7, Roland Ehle wrote:
>>
>> Downgrade to python-usb 0.4.3 did not change the behavior. Clean install 
>> of Ubuntu 14.04.5 followed by a clean install of weewx 3.6.1 did not change 
>> the behavior. No I took a brand new Raspberry, put weewx on it, but I have 
>> exactly the same issue. In the past I was running my station on a Raspberry 
>> with weewx 3.5.0 successfully.
>>
>>
> At this point it's unclear to me if it's software or hardware, so I'd 
> suggest a clean Raspbian with weewx 3.5.0 on it to try to recreate the same 
> config you had when it last worked.
>

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