Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Doug Bo]

Tom,

Wow!  Thank you for the amazing resource.  Already found a couple of 
interesting tidbits.

And thank you for weewx - very happy with the software.  :)

Thanks again,
Doug B.


On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 4:37:55 PM UTC-8, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> Doug, the biggest incompatibility problem is actually between loggers. 
> Sometime in 2012, Davis changed the interface to the logger. Modern 
> consoles will not work with old loggers. The console looks for a key in the 
> logger and, if it doesn't find it, refuses to boot. This was to prevent 3rd 
> party loggers although, human nature being what it is, smart people have 
> found ways around the lock.
>
> New loggers will work with any console.
>
> Details here 
> 
> .
>
> -tk 
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Doug Bo > 
> wrote:
>
>> I agree, the 1.90 firmware is quite good.  Also very true, don't fix 
>> something that isn't broke.
>>
>> My deal is that I run multiple consoles with multiple ISS at multiple 
>> locations with repeaters, remote temp sensors and soil sensors.  I want 
>> everything to be interchangeable so that if something breaks or dies or 
>> gets weird I can swap out components quickly to keep the weather data 
>> flowing.  Thus I want matching firmware to minimize surprises down the 
>> road.  I'm a farmer so my weather stations have a direct impact on my 
>> wallet.  I guess I'm sort of fussy about my setup.  LOL
>>
>> I'll do a bit more digging on this to satisfy my own curiosity.
>>
>> Thanks for the input,
>> Doug B.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 1:37:59 PM UTC-8, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>
>>> Why update? 
>>>
>>> My console dates back to 2006 and runs fine. Take a look at the Davis 
>>> change logs and you'll see that the "fixes" are all very esoteric and 
>>> unlikely to be encountered. 
>>> https://www.davisnet.com/resources/weather-monitoring/#support (Then 
>>> select Software/Firmware, then select VantagePro 2)
>>>
>>> If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>>
>>> -tk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:10 PM, John  wrote:
>>>
 I have an old console, firmware date May 27 2005.

 It looks like I need a special firmware updater that is no longer 
 available.

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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Thomas Keffer]

Doug, the biggest incompatibility problem is actually between loggers.
Sometime in 2012, Davis changed the interface to the logger. Modern
consoles will not work with old loggers. The console looks for a key in the
logger and, if it doesn't find it, refuses to boot. This was to prevent 3rd
party loggers although, human nature being what it is, smart people have
found ways around the lock.

New loggers will work with any console.

Details here
.

-tk

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Doug Bo  wrote:

> I agree, the 1.90 firmware is quite good.  Also very true, don't fix
> something that isn't broke.
>
> My deal is that I run multiple consoles with multiple ISS at multiple
> locations with repeaters, remote temp sensors and soil sensors.  I want
> everything to be interchangeable so that if something breaks or dies or
> gets weird I can swap out components quickly to keep the weather data
> flowing.  Thus I want matching firmware to minimize surprises down the
> road.  I'm a farmer so my weather stations have a direct impact on my
> wallet.  I guess I'm sort of fussy about my setup.  LOL
>
> I'll do a bit more digging on this to satisfy my own curiosity.
>
> Thanks for the input,
> Doug B.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 1:37:59 PM UTC-8, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>
>> Why update?
>>
>> My console dates back to 2006 and runs fine. Take a look at the Davis
>> change logs and you'll see that the "fixes" are all very esoteric and
>> unlikely to be encountered. https://www.davisnet.com/resou
>> rces/weather-monitoring/#support (Then select Software/Firmware, then
>> select VantagePro 2)
>>
>> If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>
>> -tk
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:10 PM, John  wrote:
>>
>>> I have an old console, firmware date May 27 2005.
>>>
>>> It looks like I need a special firmware updater that is no longer
>>> available.
>>>
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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Doug Bo]

I agree, the 1.90 firmware is quite good.  Also very true, don't fix 
something that isn't broke.

My deal is that I run multiple consoles with multiple ISS at multiple 
locations with repeaters, remote temp sensors and soil sensors.  I want 
everything to be interchangeable so that if something breaks or dies or 
gets weird I can swap out components quickly to keep the weather data 
flowing.  Thus I want matching firmware to minimize surprises down the 
road.  I'm a farmer so my weather stations have a direct impact on my 
wallet.  I guess I'm sort of fussy about my setup.  LOL

I'll do a bit more digging on this to satisfy my own curiosity.

Thanks for the input,
Doug B.


On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 1:37:59 PM UTC-8, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> Why update? 
>
> My console dates back to 2006 and runs fine. Take a look at the Davis 
> change logs and you'll see that the "fixes" are all very esoteric and 
> unlikely to be encountered. 
> https://www.davisnet.com/resources/weather-monitoring/#support (Then 
> select Software/Firmware, then select VantagePro 2)
>
> If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>
> -tk
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:10 PM, John > 
> wrote:
>
>> I have an old console, firmware date May 27 2005.
>>
>> It looks like I need a special firmware updater that is no longer 
>> available.
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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[John]

good point.  

I guess in this age of internet connected devices and exploits I have 
gotten in the habit of trying to update whatever I can.

before weewx the console didn't change daylight savings on the correct 
dates but with weeex that isn't an issue anylonger.

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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Thomas Keffer]

Why update?

My console dates back to 2006 and runs fine. Take a look at the Davis
change logs and you'll see that the "fixes" are all very esoteric and
unlikely to be encountered.
https://www.davisnet.com/resources/weather-monitoring/#support (Then select
Software/Firmware, then select VantagePro 2)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

-tk


On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:10 PM, John  wrote:

> I have an old console, firmware date May 27 2005.
>
> It looks like I need a special firmware updater that is no longer
> available.
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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[John]

I have an old console, firmware date May 27 2005.

It looks like I need a special firmware updater that is no longer available.

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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Doug Bo]

Will do.  Today's chat: I was told 3.80 has "minor improvements", if 
current version of console firmware is working properly then don't worry 
about new version.

I'll see if I can get in touch with an engineer tomorrow.

Doug B.


On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 2:23:15 PM UTC-8, bgra...@umw.edu wrote:
>
> Doug,
> I too have an old and new console and have asked Davis about 3.80. Please 
> let me know if you hear from them. Thanks.
> Bob

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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[bgrattan]

Doug,
I too have an old and new console and have asked Davis about 3.80. Please let 
me know if you hear from them. Thanks.
Bob

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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Doug Bo]

Firmware updaters for console & WL IP:
https://www.davisnet.com/resources/weather-monitoring/#support

My console has old hardware so I was stuck at 1.90
I ended up purchasing a new console which has version 3.80 which you can't 
download from the web.  I'm going to ask Davis about this oddity.

Doug B.


On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 8:15:48 AM UTC-8, John wrote:
>
>
>> I upgraded my console to the latest and greatest firmware. 
>>
>
> My Vantage Pro2 console could use a firmware update as well.  How did you 
> manage to get the update installed? 
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[John]

>
>
> I upgraded my console to the latest and greatest firmware. 
>

My Vantage Pro2 console could use a firmware update as well.  How did you 
manage to get the update installed? 

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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Doug Bo]

Update:

I upgraded my console to the latest and greatest firmware.  Still seeing 
network issues so the problem isn't the console firmware.  I'm using an 
Ethernet to WiFi bridge between logger and network.  I think that is my 
issue.  Going to make some network changes to see if I can isolate my 
timeout problem.

Doug B.



> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 5:13:14 AM UTC-8, Tom Keffer wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Doug
>>
>> Could you put your comments in the Wiki? That way it will be easier for 
>> someone to find, rather than search through the nearly 5,000 topics in 
>> weewx-user.
>>
>> Perhaps something in the hardware 
>>  section?
>>
>> -tk
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Doug Bo  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running an older Vantage Pro2 console, vintage 2007, firmware 1.90  
>>> (can't update firmware due to console hardware changes)
>>> My WeatherlinkIP is running current firmware but console seems to be 
>>> very slow to respond.  I disabled the upload to weatherlink.
>>>
>>> I had to tweak the conf file to get it to run more than 24 hours.  The 
>>> parameter adjustments below are based on threads I found in this forum.  
>>> Hopefully my discoveries will help someone.  Although I doubt anyone (other 
>>> than me) is running old consoles.  LOL
>>>
>>> Any other tips are appreciated.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> I'm currently discussing my options with Davis on updating my consoles.  
>>> Maybe newer hardware.  :)
>>>
>>> Doug B.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> loop_on_init = True
>>>
>>>   
>>> # TCP send delay (when using the WeatherLinkIP):
>>> tcp_send_delay = 0.5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *# experimentcommand_delay = 1.0*
>>> # The id of your ISS station (usually 1). If you use a wind meter 
>>> connected
>>> # to a anemometer transmitter kit, use its id
>>> iss_id = 2
>>> 
>>> # How long to wait for a response from the station before giving up 
>>> (in
>>> # seconds; must be greater than 2)
>>> # timeout = 4
>>>
>>> *timeout = 8*
>>> # How long to wait before trying again (in seconds)
>>> # wait_before_retry = 1.2
>>>
>>> *wait_before_retry = 3.5*
>>> # How many times to try before giving up:
>>> max_tries = 4
>>> 
>>> # Vantage model Type: 1 = Vantage Pro; 2 = Vantage Pro2
>>> model_type = 2
>>> 
>>> # The driver to use:
>>> driver = weewx.drivers.vantage
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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Doug Bo]

Sounds good.  Will figure out how to add my comments to the Wiki.  :)

Doug B.


On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 5:13:14 AM UTC-8, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> Thanks, Doug
>
> Could you put your comments in the Wiki? That way it will be easier for 
> someone to find, rather than search through the nearly 5,000 topics in 
> weewx-user.
>
> Perhaps something in the hardware 
>  section?
>
> -tk
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Doug Bo > 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm running an older Vantage Pro2 console, vintage 2007, firmware 1.90  
>> (can't update firmware due to console hardware changes)
>> My WeatherlinkIP is running current firmware but console seems to be very 
>> slow to respond.  I disabled the upload to weatherlink.
>>
>> I had to tweak the conf file to get it to run more than 24 hours.  The 
>> parameter adjustments below are based on threads I found in this forum.  
>> Hopefully my discoveries will help someone.  Although I doubt anyone (other 
>> than me) is running old consoles.  LOL
>>
>> Any other tips are appreciated.  Thanks.
>>
>> I'm currently discussing my options with Davis on updating my consoles.  
>> Maybe newer hardware.  :)
>>
>> Doug B.
>>
>> 
>>
>> loop_on_init = True
>>
>>   
>> # TCP send delay (when using the WeatherLinkIP):
>> tcp_send_delay = 0.5
>>
>>
>>
>> *# experimentcommand_delay = 1.0*
>> # The id of your ISS station (usually 1). If you use a wind meter 
>> connected
>> # to a anemometer transmitter kit, use its id
>> iss_id = 2
>> 
>> # How long to wait for a response from the station before giving up 
>> (in
>> # seconds; must be greater than 2)
>> # timeout = 4
>>
>> *timeout = 8*
>> # How long to wait before trying again (in seconds)
>> # wait_before_retry = 1.2
>>
>> *wait_before_retry = 3.5*
>> # How many times to try before giving up:
>> max_tries = 4
>> 
>> # Vantage model Type: 1 = Vantage Pro; 2 = Vantage Pro2
>> model_type = 2
>> 
>> # The driver to use:
>> driver = weewx.drivers.vantage
>>
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Re: [weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Thomas Keffer]

Thanks, Doug

Could you put your comments in the Wiki? That way it will be easier for
someone to find, rather than search through the nearly 5,000 topics in
weewx-user.

Perhaps something in the hardware
 section?

-tk

On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Doug Bo  wrote:

> I'm running an older Vantage Pro2 console, vintage 2007, firmware 1.90
> (can't update firmware due to console hardware changes)
> My WeatherlinkIP is running current firmware but console seems to be very
> slow to respond.  I disabled the upload to weatherlink.
>
> I had to tweak the conf file to get it to run more than 24 hours.  The
> parameter adjustments below are based on threads I found in this forum.
> Hopefully my discoveries will help someone.  Although I doubt anyone (other
> than me) is running old consoles.  LOL
>
> Any other tips are appreciated.  Thanks.
>
> I'm currently discussing my options with Davis on updating my consoles.
> Maybe newer hardware.  :)
>
> Doug B.
>
> 
>
> loop_on_init = True
>
>
> # TCP send delay (when using the WeatherLinkIP):
> tcp_send_delay = 0.5
>
>
>
> *# experimentcommand_delay = 1.0*
> # The id of your ISS station (usually 1). If you use a wind meter
> connected
> # to a anemometer transmitter kit, use its id
> iss_id = 2
>
> # How long to wait for a response from the station before giving up (in
> # seconds; must be greater than 2)
> # timeout = 4
>
> *timeout = 8*
> # How long to wait before trying again (in seconds)
> # wait_before_retry = 1.2
>
> *wait_before_retry = 3.5*
> # How many times to try before giving up:
> max_tries = 4
>
> # Vantage model Type: 1 = Vantage Pro; 2 = Vantage Pro2
> model_type = 2
>
> # The driver to use:
> driver = weewx.drivers.vantage
>
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[weewx-user] Some possible helps for anyone running an old Davis Vantage Pro2 console

[Doug Bo]

I'm running an older Vantage Pro2 console, vintage 2007, firmware 1.90  
(can't update firmware due to console hardware changes)
My WeatherlinkIP is running current firmware but console seems to be very 
slow to respond.  I disabled the upload to weatherlink.

I had to tweak the conf file to get it to run more than 24 hours.  The 
parameter adjustments below are based on threads I found in this forum.  
Hopefully my discoveries will help someone.  Although I doubt anyone (other 
than me) is running old consoles.  LOL

Any other tips are appreciated.  Thanks.

I'm currently discussing my options with Davis on updating my consoles.  
Maybe newer hardware.  :)

Doug B.



loop_on_init = True

  
# TCP send delay (when using the WeatherLinkIP):
tcp_send_delay = 0.5



*# experimentcommand_delay = 1.0*
# The id of your ISS station (usually 1). If you use a wind meter 
connected
# to a anemometer transmitter kit, use its id
iss_id = 2

# How long to wait for a response from the station before giving up (in
# seconds; must be greater than 2)
# timeout = 4

*timeout = 8*
# How long to wait before trying again (in seconds)
# wait_before_retry = 1.2

*wait_before_retry = 3.5*
# How many times to try before giving up:
max_tries = 4

# Vantage model Type: 1 = Vantage Pro; 2 = Vantage Pro2
model_type = 2

# The driver to use:
driver = weewx.drivers.vantage

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