Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Rainer Lang]

1. the GW1000, GW1100, WH2650, GW2000, WN19x0 consoles all share the 
same APi - the Ecowitt Gateway API aka GW1000 API
the Wittboy = GW2001 station = GW2000 console/gateway + WS90 7-in-1 
sensor array
The WS90 outdoor array can be connected to any of the above mentioned 
consoles with Ecowitt Gateway API (latest firmware needed)


The haptic rain sensor of the WS90 can be calibrated on five tiers 
depending on rain rate.
It has also already undergone several firmware updates to fix issues of 
rain rate, rain+wind, dew, non-rainfall "touches" etc. and its accuracy 
is growing.
In my case the WS90 readings are between a WH40 and a WS69 rain gauge 
readings.
It will need a larger number of different rain events to fine tune the 
calibration. It's not out-of-the box accurate yet (for rain), but looks 
much better than the "children's diseases" of the Tempest. It doesn't 
need a permanent  AI based crowd calibration.
One of the strong features of the WS90 is its stability, robustness and 
it doesn't have any moveable parts.
The GW2000 console can be connected via WiFi or via Ethernet (LAN cable) 
while all other recent Ecowitt consoles are WiFi only.


The above mentioned consoles GWyx00, WN191x, WH2650 can receive all 
existing recent Ecowitt sensors/arrays.
My GW1000, GW1100, GW2000 etc. can all receive the WS90 - so can the 
HP25x0 consoles (only they don't have an API) - alone or in parallel
You can factually combine +/- all consoles with all sensors - for model 
limitations see https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0

Also beyond the offered packages/stations.

On 27.08.2022 12:29, Greg Troxel wrote:

vince  writes:


Agree - a wiki article on this would be great to see.

The one detail I can find is (here)
 which
mentions the URL to fake out, but my recollection from back then is there's
also a ntp server it needs to hit periodically to prove Internet
connectivity (or else the watchdog reboots it).  The original problem
report mentioning ntp is (here)
 as well
in that long thread on wxforum.net.

Thanks; that's useful.


Two questions for the list:


1) Have people used the Wittboy/GW2000 combination, and:

   does it work with the gw1000 driver?

   does it actualy work, in terms of accurate rain measurements?  (I
   dimly remember that the weatherflow tempest needed some cloud-based AI
   to get valid measurements.)

 From looking, it seems the GW1101 is the one to get for budget-conscious
people, as it doesn't have a separate rain gauge that needs new
batteries (no solar) as in the GW1102 and GW1103 and doesn't have the
ultrasonic anemometer that needs power to work in the winter
(freezeups).

2) It seems one could get a wifi weather station and also a GW1100, to
be able to have  a display and local access.  This seems to be the
sensor suite in the GW1101 and I don't see why the GW1100 wouldn't
receive it:

   https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/ws2910

has anyone used a WS-series station and added a GW1100?
Or is the interceptor easy enough to deal with that there's no real
reason?



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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Greg Troxel]

vince  writes:

> Agree - a wiki article on this would be great to see.
>
> The one detail I can find is (here) 
>  which 
> mentions the URL to fake out, but my recollection from back then is there's 
> also a ntp server it needs to hit periodically to prove Internet 
> connectivity (or else the watchdog reboots it).  The original problem 
> report mentioning ntp is (here) 
>  as well 
> in that long thread on wxforum.net.

Thanks; that's useful.


Two questions for the list:


1) Have people used the Wittboy/GW2000 combination, and:

  does it work with the gw1000 driver?

  does it actualy work, in terms of accurate rain measurements?  (I
  dimly remember that the weatherflow tempest needed some cloud-based AI
  to get valid measurements.)

>From looking, it seems the GW1101 is the one to get for budget-conscious
people, as it doesn't have a separate rain gauge that needs new
batteries (no solar) as in the GW1102 and GW1103 and doesn't have the
ultrasonic anemometer that needs power to work in the winter
(freezeups).

2) It seems one could get a wifi weather station and also a GW1100, to
be able to have  a display and local access.  This seems to be the
sensor suite in the GW1101 and I don't see why the GW1100 wouldn't
receive it:

  https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/ws2910

has anyone used a WS-series station and added a GW1100?
Or is the interceptor easy enough to deal with that there's no real
reason?

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[vince]

Agree - a wiki article on this would be great to see.

The one detail I can find is (here) 
 which 
mentions the URL to fake out, but my recollection from back then is there's 
also a ntp server it needs to hit periodically to prove Internet 
connectivity (or else the watchdog reboots it).  The original problem 
report mentioning ntp is (here) 
 as well 
in that long thread on wxforum.net.

Guessing Gary knows the short answer and has a two or three-liner to 
implement it already :-)

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Greg Troxel]

Bill Arthur  writes:

> I don't know about the HP2551, but I know a bit about the GW1100 phoning 
> home. 
> I first found it on a solar powered station with no internet.
> The GW1100 doesn't stop, but it resets it's WiFi every 10 minutes if it 
> can't touch home.
> The community was great with helping to find a solution. I spoofed it to 
> using a local server, 
> and I also had to provide a local time server in order to get rain 
> measurements.

Can you post details of what you spoofed?
If it's ok with gjr80, it would be great to have that explained in the
driver's wiki page.

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Invisible Man]

Okay :) So, then both options should work :)

   - HP25xx console + Interceptor
   - or GWxx00 console + gw1000 driver

I guess I'll experiment more closely when I receive the weather station :)
Thanks very much!
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:30:45 AM UTC+2 lang@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> the Ecowitt Gateway driver works on a pull procedure, i.e. requests the 
> data from the GWyx00 console, whereas the interceptor driver works with 
> data pushed by the console via the custom server functionality.
> In both cases the consoles communicate via WiFi/WLAN into the local 
> network, and weewx requests/pulls (GW1000 API) or  catches (interceptor) 
> via the network. (in case of a GW2000 this can be completely LAN based 
> without WLAN).
> For the Ecowitt Gateway driver the IP of the console is entered into 
> weewx.conf [GW1000]
> for the interceptor driver the IP of the weewx server is entered into the 
> console for the custom server.
>
> the interceptor doesn't need to be "placed" somewhere - that's a strange 
> wording imho. It's just installed with weewx.
> If you want to see a picture how this works - and get also some more 
> understanding of your EW console hardware,
> read through https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 (chapter 7. 
> data flow, but all chapters are worth reading)
>
> On 26.08.2022 09:12, Invisible Man wrote:
>
> From the GW-1000 weewx driver README.md, I read:  
> "*The Ecowitt Gateway driver utilises the Ecowitt LAN/Wi-Fi Gateway API 
> thus using a pull methodology for obtaining data from the gateway device 
> rather than the push methodology used by other drivers*". 
>
> So, if I understand correctly, the GWyx00 does not talk to the Weewx.* 
> It's the other way round: the Weewx communicates with the GWyx00 gateway*. 
> I suppose we configure in the weewx driver the IP address of the GWxy00 and 
> it questions it to get weather data.
>
> Later the README.md says:
> "*Note: If necessary you can specify the device IP address and port using 
> the --ip-address and --port command line options.*"
>
> Not sure whether this is the IP address of the GWyx00 console, or the IP 
> address of the Weewx host. The former, I think.
>
> If so, that answers the second question of my previous post :)
>
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 8:49:20 AM UTC+2 Invisible Man wrote:
>
>> Woaw, thanks this is extremely helpful! 
>>
>> The *interceptor* driver (
>> https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor) looks cool. Except 
>> that *I suppose the interceptor needs to be placed where it can read all 
>> wifi packets* (from the wifi the weather station uses), right? 
>> That's not very convenient in my case because the WiFi is created by the 
>> Internet box. The Internet box is from my ISP. I don't have any control on 
>> it, *can't install a weewx driver on it* for instance ;-)
>> Or can the interceptor be placed on *any machine on the same wifi as the 
>> weather station* ? 
>>
>> So, let's investigate the option where I get a *GWyx00* console:
>>
>> >The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi into the 
>> local LAN.
>>
>> Ok, so you said that the USB connector on the GWyx00 console was for 
>> power only. Then, the data from GWyx00 is emitted on WiFi. 
>> My weewx host (a Rapsberry Pi) is on the LAN. They can ping each other 
>> and communicate if they wish, no problem.
>> But will the GWyx00 directly send data to the weewx host: is that 
>> configurable? *Can I configure the GWxy00 console to communicate with a 
>> given IP address?* I fear that the GWyx00 console will rather directly 
>> send its data to an external Internet weather server. Then, same issue, my 
>> weewx host can't "intercept" the data.
>>
>> Thanks very much for your help!
>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 7:10:33 PM UTC+2 lang@googlemail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The HP25x0 consoles do not have an API and cannot be queried via the 
>>> GW1000 API/Ecowitt Gateway driver.
>>> You either use a GW1x00/GW2000 instead (receive the same sensors in 
>>> parallel) with the Ecowtt Gateway (GW1000) driver,
>>> or you will have to use the weewx Interceptor driver with the HP25x0 
>>> console custom server functionality
>>> The interceptor driver as available on GitHub from M. Wall covers only 
>>> the basic sensors (T/H indoor, outdoor, rain, wind, solar).
>>> If you have more sensors, you need to use a modified interceptor driver. 
>>> Some users here have developed an extended version which covers all recent 
>>> Ecowitt sensors.
>>>
>>> The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi into the 
>>> local LAN.
>>> Weewx will pick up the data via local LAN (LAN or WLAN) depending on the 
>>> server on which weewx runs and its network interfaces.
>>>
>>> There is no USB connection between consoles and weewx
>>> The USB port on the GW1x00 consoles/gateways is for power supply only. 
>>> The USB port of the HP25x0 consoles is for factory use initial device 
>>> firmware only.
>>>
>>> On 25.08.2022 1

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Rainer Lang]

the Ecowitt Gateway driver works on a pull procedure, i.e. requests the 
data from the GWyx00 console, whereas the interceptor driver works with 
data pushed by the console via the custom server functionality.
In both cases the consoles communicate via WiFi/WLAN into the local 
network, and weewx requests/pulls (GW1000 API) or  catches (interceptor) 
via the network. (in case of a GW2000 this can be completely LAN based 
without WLAN).
For the Ecowitt Gateway driver the IP of the console is entered into 
weewx.conf [GW1000]
for the interceptor driver the IP of the weewx server is entered into 
the console for the custom server.


the interceptor doesn't need to be "placed" somewhere - that's a strange 
wording imho. It's just installed with weewx.
If you want to see a picture how this works - and get also some more 
understanding of your EW console hardware,
read through https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 (chapter 7. 
data flow, but all chapters are worth reading)


On 26.08.2022 09:12, Invisible Man wrote:

From the GW-1000 weewx driver README.md, I read:
"/The Ecowitt Gateway driver utilises the Ecowitt LAN/Wi-Fi Gateway 
API thus using a pull methodology for obtaining data from the gateway 
device rather than the push methodology used by other drivers/".


So, if I understand correctly, the GWyx00 does not talk to the 
Weewx.*It's the other way round: the Weewx communicates with the 
GWyx00 gateway*. I suppose we configure in the weewx driver the IP 
address of the GWxy00 and it questions it to get weather data.


Later the README.md says:
"/Note: If necessary you can specify the device IP address and port 
using the --ip-address and --port command line options./"


Not sure whether this is the IP address of the GWyx00 console, or the 
IP address of the Weewx host. The former, I think.


If so, that answers the second question of my previous post :)

On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 8:49:20 AM UTC+2 Invisible Man wrote:

Woaw, thanks this is extremely helpful!

The *interceptor* driver
(https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor) looks cool.
Except that /I suppose the interceptor needs to be placed where it
can read all wifi packets/ (from the wifi the weather station
uses), right?
That's not very convenient in my case because the WiFi is created
by the Internet box. The Internet box is from my ISP. I don't have
any control on it, /can't install a weewx driver on it/ for
instance ;-)
Or can the interceptor be placed on *any machine on the same wifi
as the weather station* ?

So, let's investigate the option where I get a *GWyx00* console:

>The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi
into the local LAN.

Ok, so you said that the USB connector on the GWyx00 console was
for power only. Then, the data from GWyx00 is emitted on WiFi.
My weewx host (a Rapsberry Pi) is on the LAN. They can ping each
other and communicate if they wish, no problem.
But will the GWyx00 directly send data to the weewx host: is that
configurable? /Can I configure the GWxy00 console to communicate
with a given IP address?/ I fear that the GWyx00 console will
rather directly send its data to an external Internet weather
server. Then, same issue, my weewx host can't "intercept" the data.

Thanks very much for your help!
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 7:10:33 PM UTC+2
lang@googlemail.com wrote:

The HP25x0 consoles do not have an API and cannot be queried
via the GW1000 API/Ecowitt Gateway driver.
You either use a GW1x00/GW2000 instead (receive the same
sensors in parallel) with the Ecowtt Gateway (GW1000) driver,
or you will have to use the weewx Interceptor driver with the
HP25x0 console custom server functionality
The interceptor driver as available on GitHub from M. Wall
covers only the basic sensors (T/H indoor, outdoor, rain,
wind, solar).
If you have more sensors, you need to use a modified
interceptor driver. Some users here have developed an extended
version which covers all recent Ecowitt sensors.

The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi
into the local LAN.
Weewx will pick up the data via local LAN (LAN or WLAN)
depending on the server on which weewx runs and its network
interfaces.

There is no USB connection between consoles and weewx
The USB port on the GW1x00 consoles/gateways is for power
supply only. The USB port of the HP25x0 consoles is for
factory use initial device firmware only.

On 25.08.2022 19:00, ewhain...@gmail.com wrote:

The IS a USB port on the drawing. I found the manual here:
https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/1#

Manual & Software tab, Page 7 in the manual, however it also
states it is for firmware updates only...

On T

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Invisible Man]

>From the GW-1000 weewx driver README.md, I read: 
"*The Ecowitt Gateway driver utilises the Ecowitt LAN/Wi-Fi Gateway API 
thus using a pull methodology for obtaining data from the gateway device 
rather than the push methodology used by other drivers*".

So, if I understand correctly, the GWyx00 does not talk to the Weewx.* It's 
the other way round: the Weewx communicates with the GWyx00 gateway*. I 
suppose we configure in the weewx driver the IP address of the GWxy00 and 
it questions it to get weather data.

Later the README.md says:
"*Note: If necessary you can specify the device IP address and port using 
the --ip-address and --port command line options.*"

Not sure whether this is the IP address of the GWyx00 console, or the IP 
address of the Weewx host. The former, I think.

If so, that answers the second question of my previous post :)

On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 8:49:20 AM UTC+2 Invisible Man wrote:

> Woaw, thanks this is extremely helpful!
>
> The *interceptor* driver (https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor) 
> looks cool. Except that *I suppose the interceptor needs to be placed 
> where it can read all wifi packets* (from the wifi the weather station 
> uses), right? 
> That's not very convenient in my case because the WiFi is created by the 
> Internet box. The Internet box is from my ISP. I don't have any control on 
> it, *can't install a weewx driver on it* for instance ;-)
> Or can the interceptor be placed on *any machine on the same wifi as the 
> weather station* ? 
>
> So, let's investigate the option where I get a *GWyx00* console:
>
> >The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi into the 
> local LAN.
>
> Ok, so you said that the USB connector on the GWyx00 console was for power 
> only. Then, the data from GWyx00 is emitted on WiFi. 
> My weewx host (a Rapsberry Pi) is on the LAN. They can ping each other and 
> communicate if they wish, no problem.
> But will the GWyx00 directly send data to the weewx host: is that 
> configurable? *Can I configure the GWxy00 console to communicate with a 
> given IP address?* I fear that the GWyx00 console will rather directly 
> send its data to an external Internet weather server. Then, same issue, my 
> weewx host can't "intercept" the data.
>
> Thanks very much for your help!
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 7:10:33 PM UTC+2 lang@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The HP25x0 consoles do not have an API and cannot be queried via the 
>> GW1000 API/Ecowitt Gateway driver.
>> You either use a GW1x00/GW2000 instead (receive the same sensors in 
>> parallel) with the Ecowtt Gateway (GW1000) driver,
>> or you will have to use the weewx Interceptor driver with the HP25x0 
>> console custom server functionality
>> The interceptor driver as available on GitHub from M. Wall covers only 
>> the basic sensors (T/H indoor, outdoor, rain, wind, solar).
>> If you have more sensors, you need to use a modified interceptor driver. 
>> Some users here have developed an extended version which covers all recent 
>> Ecowitt sensors.
>>
>> The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi into the 
>> local LAN.
>> Weewx will pick up the data via local LAN (LAN or WLAN) depending on the 
>> server on which weewx runs and its network interfaces.
>>
>> There is no USB connection between consoles and weewx
>> The USB port on the GW1x00 consoles/gateways is for power supply only. 
>> The USB port of the HP25x0 consoles is for factory use initial device 
>> firmware only.
>>
>> On 25.08.2022 19:00, ewhain...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The IS a USB port on the drawing. I found the manual here: 
>> https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/1# 
>>
>> Manual & Software tab, Page 7 in the manual, however it also states it is 
>> for firmware updates only...
>>
>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:55:10 AM UTC-4 axelle@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> >The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I 
>>> >understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to 
>>> >that API and injecting to weewx.
>>>
>>> Right. And the GW1100 is plugged by USB to the weewx server, right? or 
>>> can weewx read GW1100 over wifi?
>>>
>>> >it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the console, 
>>> >because it says it uploads to similar places
>>>
>>> I have the feeling the protocol will be the same too. Same reason as 
>>> you. 
>>>
>>> The main issue that might occur is whether weewx GW1000 driver is able 
>>> to operate via wifi too or not? Looks like the HP2551 console does not have 
>>> a USB port (not sure though, couldn't find a photo). And I wasn't able to 
>>> find any info on Wifi connection on 
>>> https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000 nor about support for HP2551 or 
>>> HP2552 or HP2553.
>>>
>>> Anybody from GW1000 driver can answer?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:38:46 PM UTC+2 Greg Troxel wrote:
>>>

 Invisible Man  writes: 

 > I'm considering the p

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Invisible Man]

Woaw, thanks this is extremely helpful!

The *interceptor* driver (https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor) 
looks cool. Except that *I suppose the interceptor needs to be placed where 
it can read all wifi packets* (from the wifi the weather station uses), 
right? 
That's not very convenient in my case because the WiFi is created by the 
Internet box. The Internet box is from my ISP. I don't have any control on 
it, *can't install a weewx driver on it* for instance ;-)
Or can the interceptor be placed on *any machine on the same wifi as the 
weather station* ? 

So, let's investigate the option where I get a *GWyx00* console:

>The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi into the 
local LAN.

Ok, so you said that the USB connector on the GWyx00 console was for power 
only. Then, the data from GWyx00 is emitted on WiFi. 
My weewx host (a Rapsberry Pi) is on the LAN. They can ping each other and 
communicate if they wish, no problem.
But will the GWyx00 directly send data to the weewx host: is that 
configurable? *Can I configure the GWxy00 console to communicate with a 
given IP address?* I fear that the GWyx00 console will rather directly send 
its data to an external Internet weather server. Then, same issue, my weewx 
host can't "intercept" the data.

Thanks very much for your help!
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 7:10:33 PM UTC+2 lang@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> The HP25x0 consoles do not have an API and cannot be queried via the 
> GW1000 API/Ecowitt Gateway driver.
> You either use a GW1x00/GW2000 instead (receive the same sensors in 
> parallel) with the Ecowtt Gateway (GW1000) driver,
> or you will have to use the weewx Interceptor driver with the HP25x0 
> console custom server functionality
> The interceptor driver as available on GitHub from M. Wall covers only the 
> basic sensors (T/H indoor, outdoor, rain, wind, solar).
> If you have more sensors, you need to use a modified interceptor driver. 
> Some users here have developed an extended version which covers all recent 
> Ecowitt sensors.
>
> The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi into the 
> local LAN.
> Weewx will pick up the data via local LAN (LAN or WLAN) depending on the 
> server on which weewx runs and its network interfaces.
>
> There is no USB connection between consoles and weewx
> The USB port on the GW1x00 consoles/gateways is for power supply only. The 
> USB port of the HP25x0 consoles is for factory use initial device firmware 
> only.
>
> On 25.08.2022 19:00, ewhain...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The IS a USB port on the drawing. I found the manual here: 
> https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/1# 
>
> Manual & Software tab, Page 7 in the manual, however it also states it is 
> for firmware updates only...
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:55:10 AM UTC-4 axelle@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> >The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I 
>> >understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to 
>> >that API and injecting to weewx.
>>
>> Right. And the GW1100 is plugged by USB to the weewx server, right? or 
>> can weewx read GW1100 over wifi?
>>
>> >it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the console, 
>> >because it says it uploads to similar places
>>
>> I have the feeling the protocol will be the same too. Same reason as you. 
>>
>> The main issue that might occur is whether weewx GW1000 driver is able to 
>> operate via wifi too or not? Looks like the HP2551 console does not have a 
>> USB port (not sure though, couldn't find a photo). And I wasn't able to 
>> find any info on Wifi connection on https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000 
>> nor about support for HP2551 or HP2552 or HP2553.
>>
>> Anybody from GW1000 driver can answer?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:38:46 PM UTC+2 Greg Troxel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Invisible Man  writes: 
>>>
>>> > I'm considering the purchase of a EcoWitt HP2551 : it has a console + 
>>> a 
>>> > 7-in-1 sensor. Just not totally sure how to integrate it with Weewx. 
>>> > People said here to use the Ecowitt GW-1100 driver, right? But EcoWitt 
>>> > HP2551 does not have that GW1100 gateway. Will the driver work 
>>> > nevertheless? 
>>> > Basically, I'm not sure the EcoWitt HP2551 (or 2552, or 2553) has a 
>>> USB 
>>> > cable. So how would I connect it to the RPi on which Weewx runs? 
>>>
>>> I am unclear on details but am heading down the path of figuring out 
>>> which EcoWitt station someone else should get. I lean to EcoWitt 
>>> because it seems to be reasonable quality at very low prices and they 
>>> seem to be open-source and local-access no-cloud-required friendly. So 
>>> many things are cloud-only which I consider a total fail -- the 
>>> interceptor driver is an impressive hack but it's a bad situation that 
>>> it's necesary. 
>>>
>>> The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I 
>>> understand it, there's a local API and the driver is 

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Rainer Lang]

The HP25x0 consoles do not have an API and cannot be queried via the 
GW1000 API/Ecowitt Gateway driver.
You either use a GW1x00/GW2000 instead (receive the same sensors in 
parallel) with the Ecowtt Gateway (GW1000) driver,
or you will have to use the weewx Interceptor driver with the HP25x0 
console custom server functionality
The interceptor driver as available on GitHub from M. Wall covers only 
the basic sensors (T/H indoor, outdoor, rain, wind, solar).
If you have more sensors, you need to use a modified interceptor driver. 
Some users here have developed an extended version which covers all 
recent Ecowitt sensors.


The communiation from HP25x0 and GWyx00 console goes via WiFi into the 
local LAN.
Weewx will pick up the data via local LAN (LAN or WLAN) depending on the 
server on which weewx runs and its network interfaces.


There is no USB connection between consoles and weewx
The USB port on the GW1x00 consoles/gateways is for power supply only. 
The USB port of the HP25x0 consoles is for factory use initial device 
firmware only.


On 25.08.2022 19:00, ewhain...@gmail.com wrote:
The IS a USB port on the drawing. I found the manual here: 
https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/1#


Manual & Software tab, Page 7 in the manual, however it also states it 
is for firmware updates only...


On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:55:10 AM UTC-4 axelle@gmail.com 
wrote:


>The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I
>understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to
>that API and injecting to weewx.

Right. And the GW1100 is plugged by USB to the weewx server,
right? or can weewx read GW1100 over wifi?

>it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the
console,
>because it says it uploads to similar places

I have the feeling the protocol will be the same too. Same reason
as you.

The main issue that might occur is whether weewx GW1000 driver is
able to operate via wifi too or not? Looks like the HP2551 console
does not have a USB port (not sure though, couldn't find a photo).
And I wasn't able to find any info on Wifi connection on
https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000 nor about support for HP2551
or HP2552 or HP2553.

Anybody from GW1000 driver can answer?

Thanks,
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:38:46 PM UTC+2 Greg Troxel wrote:


Invisible Man  writes:

> I'm considering the purchase of a EcoWitt HP2551 : it has a
console + a
> 7-in-1 sensor. Just not totally sure how to integrate it
with Weewx.
> People said here to use the Ecowitt GW-1100 driver, right?
But EcoWitt
> HP2551 does not have that GW1100 gateway. Will the driver work
> nevertheless?
> Basically, I'm not sure the EcoWitt HP2551 (or 2552, or
2553) has a USB
> cable. So how would I connect it to the RPi on which Weewx
runs?

I am unclear on details but am heading down the path of
figuring out
which EcoWitt station someone else should get. I lean to EcoWitt
because it seems to be reasonable quality at very low prices
and they
seem to be open-source and local-access no-cloud-required
friendly. So
many things are cloud-only which I consider a total fail -- the
interceptor driver is an impressive hack but it's a bad
situation that
it's necesary.

The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations.
As I
understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just
talking to
that API and injecting to weewx. Thus it should work if the
internet is
down (or if the GW1100 is firewalled to keep the data from
being sent to
their cloud), but I'm not 100% sure as sometimes devices have
code that
phones home and stops if that doesn't work.

Reading

https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/hp2551

it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the
console,
because it says it uploads to similar places, and there is a
list of
optional sensors that seems to match. It would be sane to
offer the
same API and for them to reuse their code and circuit design,
just
sharing the case/etc. -- and doing so would be consistent with my
impression of EcoWitt's approach.

However, skimming the driver github site I don't see direct
confirmation
that the HP2551 is wire-protocol compatible. With any luck
someone will
post that they've used the driver.

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[ewhain...@gmail.com]

The IS a USB port on the drawing. I found the manual 
here: https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/1#

Manual & Software tab, Page 7 in the manual, however it also states it is 
for firmware updates only...

On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 9:55:10 AM UTC-4 axelle@gmail.com wrote:

> >The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I 
> >understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to 
> >that API and injecting to weewx.
>
> Right. And the GW1100 is plugged by USB to the weewx server, right? or can 
> weewx read GW1100 over wifi?
>
> >it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the console, 
> >because it says it uploads to similar places
>
> I have the feeling the protocol will be the same too. Same reason as you. 
>
> The main issue that might occur is whether weewx GW1000 driver is able to 
> operate via wifi too or not? Looks like the HP2551 console does not have a 
> USB port (not sure though, couldn't find a photo). And I wasn't able to 
> find any info on Wifi connection on https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000 
> nor about support for HP2551 or HP2552 or HP2553.
>
> Anybody from GW1000 driver can answer?
>
> Thanks,
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:38:46 PM UTC+2 Greg Troxel wrote:
>
>>
>> Invisible Man  writes:
>>
>> > I'm considering the purchase of a EcoWitt HP2551 : it has a console + a 
>> > 7-in-1 sensor. Just not totally sure how to integrate it with Weewx.
>> > People said here to use the Ecowitt GW-1100 driver, right? But EcoWitt 
>> > HP2551 does not have that GW1100 gateway. Will the driver work 
>> > nevertheless? 
>> > Basically, I'm not sure the EcoWitt HP2551 (or 2552, or 2553) has a USB 
>> > cable. So how would I connect it to the RPi on which Weewx runs?
>>
>> I am unclear on details but am heading down the path of figuring out
>> which EcoWitt station someone else should get. I lean to EcoWitt
>> because it seems to be reasonable quality at very low prices and they
>> seem to be open-source and local-access no-cloud-required friendly. So
>> many things are cloud-only which I consider a total fail -- the
>> interceptor driver is an impressive hack but it's a bad situation that
>> it's necesary.
>>
>> The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I
>> understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to
>> that API and injecting to weewx. Thus it should work if the internet is
>> down (or if the GW1100 is firewalled to keep the data from being sent to
>> their cloud), but I'm not 100% sure as sometimes devices have code that
>> phones home and stops if that doesn't work.
>>
>> Reading
>>
>> https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/hp2551
>>
>> it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the console,
>> because it says it uploads to similar places, and there is a list of
>> optional sensors that seems to match. It would be sane to offer the
>> same API and for them to reuse their code and circuit design, just
>> sharing the case/etc. -- and doing so would be consistent with my
>> impression of EcoWitt's approach.
>>
>> However, skimming the driver github site I don't see direct confirmation
>> that the HP2551 is wire-protocol compatible. With any luck someone will
>> post that they've used the driver.
>>
>>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Invisible Man]

>The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I 
>understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to 
>that API and injecting to weewx.

Right. And the GW1100 is plugged by USB to the weewx server, right? or can 
weewx read GW1100 over wifi?

>it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the console, 
>because it says it uploads to similar places

I have the feeling the protocol will be the same too. Same reason as you. 

The main issue that might occur is whether weewx GW1000 driver is able to 
operate via wifi too or not? Looks like the HP2551 console does not have a 
USB port (not sure though, couldn't find a photo). And I wasn't able to 
find any info on Wifi connection on https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000 
nor about support for HP2551 or HP2552 or HP2553.

Anybody from GW1000 driver can answer?

Thanks,
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:38:46 PM UTC+2 Greg Troxel wrote:

>
> Invisible Man  writes:
>
> > I'm considering the purchase of a EcoWitt HP2551 : it has a console + a 
> > 7-in-1 sensor. Just not totally sure how to integrate it with Weewx.
> > People said here to use the Ecowitt GW-1100 driver, right? But EcoWitt 
> > HP2551 does not have that GW1100 gateway. Will the driver work 
> > nevertheless? 
> > Basically, I'm not sure the EcoWitt HP2551 (or 2552, or 2553) has a USB 
> > cable. So how would I connect it to the RPi on which Weewx runs?
>
> I am unclear on details but am heading down the path of figuring out
> which EcoWitt station someone else should get. I lean to EcoWitt
> because it seems to be reasonable quality at very low prices and they
> seem to be open-source and local-access no-cloud-required friendly. So
> many things are cloud-only which I consider a total fail -- the
> interceptor driver is an impressive hack but it's a bad situation that
> it's necesary.
>
> The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations. As I
> understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to
> that API and injecting to weewx. Thus it should work if the internet is
> down (or if the GW1100 is firewalled to keep the data from being sent to
> their cloud), but I'm not 100% sure as sometimes devices have code that
> phones home and stops if that doesn't work.
>
> Reading
>
> https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/hp2551
>
> it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the console,
> because it says it uploads to similar places, and there is a list of
> optional sensors that seems to match. It would be sane to offer the
> same API and for them to reuse their code and circuit design, just
> sharing the case/etc. -- and doing so would be consistent with my
> impression of EcoWitt's approach.
>
> However, skimming the driver github site I don't see direct confirmation
> that the HP2551 is wire-protocol compatible. With any luck someone will
> post that they've used the driver.
>
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Bill Arthur]

I don't know about the HP2551, but I know a bit about the GW1100 phoning 
home. 
I first found it on a solar powered station with no internet.
The GW1100 doesn't stop, but it resets it's WiFi every 10 minutes if it 
can't touch home.
The community was great with helping to find a solution. I spoofed it to 
using a local server, 
and I also had to provide a local time server in order to get rain 
measurements.


On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 5:38:46 AM UTC-5 Greg Troxel wrote:

> As I 
> understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to 
> that API and injecting to weewx. Thus it should work if the internet is 
> down (or if the GW1100 is firewalled to keep the data from being sent to 
> their cloud), but I'm not 100% sure as sometimes devices have code that 
> phones home and stops if that doesn't work. 
>
>
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Recommends for new station under 300

[Greg Troxel]

Invisible Man  writes:

> I'm considering the purchase of a EcoWitt HP2551 : it has a console + a 
> 7-in-1 sensor. Just not totally sure how to integrate it with Weewx.
> People said here to use the Ecowitt GW-1100 driver, right? But EcoWitt 
> HP2551 does not have that GW1100 gateway. Will the driver work 
> nevertheless? 
> Basically, I'm not sure the EcoWitt HP2551 (or 2552, or 2553) has a USB 
> cable. So how would I connect it to the RPi on which Weewx runs?

I am unclear on details but am heading down the path of figuring out
which EcoWitt station someone else should get.  I lean to EcoWitt
because it seems to be reasonable quality at very low prices and they
seem to be open-source and local-access no-cloud-required friendly.  So
many things are cloud-only which I consider a total fail -- the
interceptor driver is an impressive hack but it's a bad situation that
it's necesary.

The GW1100 is included with a number of display-less stations.  As I
understand it, there's a local API and the driver is just talking to
that API and injecting to weewx.  Thus it should work if the internet is
down (or if the GW1100 is firewalled to keep the data from being sent to
their cloud), but I'm not 100% sure as sometimes devices have code that
phones home and stops if that doesn't work.

Reading

  https://shop.ecowitt.com/products/hp2551

it looks like there is the equivalent of the GW1100 inside the console,
because it says it uploads to similar places, and there is a list of
optional sensors that seems to match.  It would be sane to offer the
same API and for them to reuse their code and circuit design, just
sharing the case/etc. -- and doing so would be consistent with my
impression of EcoWitt's approach.

However, skimming the driver github site I don't see direct confirmation
that the HP2551 is wire-protocol compatible.  With any luck someone will
post that they've used the driver.

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