Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread Okuti Richard
Now some humor to crown this discussion,

 

Let's learn and let go personally I feel differently about the postings
especially after being one of the first people to caution the person who
posted. There has been increased advancement in media and technology that
everything you see, you must be careful to study and understand before you
reach conclusions or share.

 

Some of the questions that come to mind include;

 

1.   What was the motive of the photographer?

2.   Are these genuine original pictures? Were they taken in a public place
etc

3.   Would this then be the best way to package a warning to the minors or
parents?

4.   Many many more queries .

 

Personally I found them irrelevant for our group and indeed not in bad
faith, but because they were very mixed what if adults in love may have
thought they were private in some cases (Caught!)? And the story goes on and
on. Some of them were actually disgusting and poor, if they were meant for
warning or entertainment which ever way one looks at it.

 

I love romance on the beach, in gardens and many other places (of course I
do not make love in public places .) but with todays media it is difficult
to do this one has to watch out for spying information hangry hombres J. I
actually even write about romance eg read twisted spirit on my blog:
okuti.blogspot.com 

 

Anyway Men & Women of the forum life is a journey lets relax sometimes 

 

 

Richard

 

From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On
Behalf Of Robert Ejiku
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

 

Thanks Caleb,

Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these
pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly
taken from a park in Kisumu. 

Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their
publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we
see. 

This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its
propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become.

The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war
against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the
church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to
go.

My humble opinion.


Ejiku

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka  wrote:

Kefa,

 

This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest.
Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be
de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting.
I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your
de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble
opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent
views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may
buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal
interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy
that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that
it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those
who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual
person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that
their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we
say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African
traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the
same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers,
sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens
was about the female gender alone, ev

It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry
foul as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play
"Vagina Monologues" was banned by Government was it not the highly rated
female gender oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified
women who cried foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have
apologized after all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as
VS (violent and sex ..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of
Canterbury or the Supreme Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those
who want to pretend that it is the first time they have seen such should as
Jesus said be the first to hurl a stone on you.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa  wrote:


Dear all, 

Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to
split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the
posting tagged "Botanical garden." has caused. 

I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in
Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as
insinua

Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events

2012-07-23 Thread Christine Munduru
Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to
inform you.  you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that
means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the
disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be
handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when  a
number of people are  complaining  and deregistering themselves due to this
email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been
achieved.

This person has come from a family  and community which has morals, he
should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public
like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of
the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum.

 The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic  as  the
president of West Nile Foundation is a point to  note. I suggest that you
take a lead in organizing  the cafe you have suggested since you are the
president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending.

Christine

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka  wrote:

> Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided
> young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all
> humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without
> parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up.
> Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of
> saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru  wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> > This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe
> events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who
> watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it.
> We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical
> adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe  among others,  who
> requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are
> equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with
> the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds.
> >
> > Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it
> was a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was
> beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public
> demand, this is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the
> Month. Watch out for the next.
> >
> > We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another,
> specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for
> the meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with
> the community in the evening, the elders  present and all the community
> members who turned up. Please come again.
> > Grateful for all those who supported in spirit.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Christine
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Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread Eric Ezati
Having read all that has been said about these botanical beach pictures, allow 
me to still add my voice here once again. As Caled and Ejiku have  rightly 
said, Kefa did something good to expose how our dear society has rotten in 
moral habits. Personally I could not imagine such things can happen. I have 
sisters, daughters and friends who I directly take care of and the few I have 
shared this picture have expressed shock and promise to check on how and with 
whom they move out with. To me it really was a spot on and for sure for someone 
to believe that such things are out of order and yet we have children and 
relatives and friends in schools, I think we shall miss the point claiming not 
to know such and yet it is the true reason our society and culture is decaying. 
Kefa, take heart sometimes the truth hurts but has to be taken so. Parents and 
guardians we need not to think sex education is abomination and yet most of our 
children are left at the mercy of
 the peers in boarding schools and higher institutions of learning, we have not 
talked about HIV/AIDS here but how many youths are broken-hearted just to find 
they are HIV positive, die from abortion, are dumped after having been 
selfishly misused and having such wounds for the rest of their lives, clear 
tuition money in the name of pleasing a friend and are crying tears taking 
antiretroviral medications after such things only once when visiting a 
beach. Assuming they had such a talk with a parent or guardian, could 
they be in such situations? I believe we have single mothers increasing and 
one fact may be this among many if one is not aware of selfish intentions of 
their friends We either take it or leave it but there is a lot we need to 
do. Better accept there is a problem and fight to overcome it than run away but 
potspond the whole thing...

These are my humble thoughts belonging to me only

Eric




 From: Caleb Alaka 
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile  
Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012, 21:16
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw:  De-registration
 

Kefa,

This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. 
Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be 
de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I 
think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your 
de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion 
is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This 
fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others 
idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for 
determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting 
point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in 
its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and 
pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice 
to be heard on this forum, shall we say that
 their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say 
that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African 
traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the 
same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, 
daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens was about the 
female gender alone, ev
It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul 
as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play "Vagina 
Monologues" was banned by Government was it not the highly rated female gender 
oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified women who cried 
foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have apologized after 
all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as VS (violent and sex 
..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of Canterbury or the Supreme 
Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those who want to pretend that it 
is the first time they have seen such should as Jesus said be the first to hurl 
a stone on you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa  wrote:


Dear all, 
>Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to 
>split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the 
>posting tagged “Botanical garden…” has caused. 
>I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in 
>Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as 
>insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake. 
>Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can continue 
>discussing development as usual. 
>Kefa
>
>--- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel  wrote:
>
>
>>From: leku joel 
>>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
>>To: "A Virtual Network for fri

Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 47, Issue 38

2012-07-23 Thread anguyo milton
u joel  wrote:
> 
> From: leku joel 
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:43 AM
> 
> Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this 
> forum 
> 
> From: harriet alioru 
> To: westnilenet@kym.net 
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
> 
> 
> Please deregister me from this too.
> Thank you
> --- On Mon, 9/12/11, Pamela Paparu  wrote:
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> From: Pamela Paparu 
> Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration
> To: "Westnile Foundation" 
> Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM
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> Dear Kiggundu,
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Thanks Caleb,

Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these
pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago
supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu.

Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their
publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things
we see.

This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its
propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become.

The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war
against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the
church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to
go.

My humble opinion.


Ejiku

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka  wrote:

> Kefa,
>
> This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the
> rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided
> to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your
> posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To
> seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My
> humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of
> divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not
> every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or
> universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is
> noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or
> document is that it must be read in its e

Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread Susan Elizabeth Atim Afema
h


From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On 
Behalf Of Robert Ejiku
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

Thanks Caleb,

Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these pictures 
have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly taken from 
a park in Kisumu.

Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their 
publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we 
see.

This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its 
propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become.

The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war 
against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the 
church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to go.

My humble opinion.


Ejiku
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka 
mailto:calebal...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Kefa,

This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. 
Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be 
de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I 
think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your 
de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion 
is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This 
fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others 
idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for 
determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting 
point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in 
its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and 
pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice 
to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in 
the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, 
(what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several 
African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing 
else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting 
at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev
It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul 
as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play "Vagina 
Monologues" was banned by Government was it not the highly rated female gender 
oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified women who cried 
foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have apologized after 
all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as VS (violent and sex 
..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of Canterbury or the Supreme 
Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those who want to pretend that it 
is the first time they have seen such should as Jesus said be the first to hurl 
a stone on you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa 
mailto:atibu...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Dear all,
Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to 
split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the 
posting tagged "Botanical garden..." has caused.
I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in 
Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as 
insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake.
Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can continue 
discussing development as usual.
Kefa

--- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel mailto:lekuj...@yahoo.com>> 
wrote:

From: leku joel mailto:lekuj...@yahoo.com>>
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
mailto:westnilenet@kym.net>>
Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:43 AM
Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this 
forum


From: harriet alioru mailto:hartie...@yahoo.com>>
To: westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM
Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration


Please deregister me from this too.
Thank you
--- On Mon, 9/12/11, Pamela Paparu 
mailto:pamela.obe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

From: Pamela Paparu 
mailto:pamela.obe...@hotmail.com>>
Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration
To: "Westnile Foundation" mailto:westnilenet@kym.net>>
Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM
Dear Kiggundu,

Please kindly de-register me.

Regards.

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2012-07-23 Thread Susan Elizabeth Atim Afema
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-Original Message-
From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On 
Behalf Of Caleb Alaka
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:32 PM
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration of members

Dear all, I did not and will never condone nudity on this fora. Again to use 
that unfortunate once a life time incidence to cause a deregistration is Going 
over board. May be

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Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread Robert Ejiku
Thanks Caleb,

Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these
pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago
supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu.

Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their
publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things
we see.

This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its
propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become.

The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war
against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the
church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to
go.

My humble opinion.


Ejiku

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka  wrote:

> Kefa,
>
> This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the
> rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided
> to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your
> posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To
> seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My
> humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of
> divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not
> every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or
> universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is
> noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or
> document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the
> same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral
> crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this
> forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what
> of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will
> the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African
> communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else.
> Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting
> at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev
> It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry
> foul as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play
> "Vagina Monologues" was banned by Government was it not the highly rated
> female gender oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified
> women who cried foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have
> apologized after all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as
> VS (violent and sex ..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of
> Canterbury or the Supreme Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those
> who want to pretend that it is the first time they have seen such should as
> Jesus said be the first to hurl a stone on you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa  wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not
> to split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the
> posting tagged “Botanical garden…” has caused.
>
> I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in
> Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as
> insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake.
>
> Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can
> continue discussing development as usual.
>
> Kefa
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel * wrote:
>
>
> From: leku joel 
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:43 AM
>
>   Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on
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Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread Caleb Alaka
Kefa,

This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. 
Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be 
de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I 
think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your 
de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion 
is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This 
fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others 
idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for 
determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting 
point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in 
its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and 
pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice 
to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in 
the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, 
(what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several 
African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing 
else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting 
at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev
It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul 
as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play "Vagina 
Monologues" was banned by Government was it not the highly rated female gender 
oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified women who cried 
foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have apologized after 
all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as VS (violent and sex 
..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of Canterbury or the Supreme 
Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those who want to pretend that it 
is the first time they have seen such should as Jesus said be the first to hurl 
a stone on you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa  wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to 
> split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the 
> posting tagged “Botanical garden…” has caused.
> 
> I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in 
> Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as 
> insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake.
> 
> Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can 
> continue discussing development as usual.
> 
> Kefa
> 
> --- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel  wrote:
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> From: leku joel 
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:43 AM
> 
> Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this 
> forum 
> 
> From: harriet alioru 
> To: westnilenet@kym.net 
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
> 
> 
> Please deregister me from this too.
> Thank you
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> From: Pamela Paparu 
> Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration
> To: "Westnile Foundation" 
> Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM
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>  
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Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread Robert Ejiku
Kiggs,

DO NOT DEREGISTER ME. Mistakes have been made on this network before and we
joined for many reasons which I am sure can still be achieved.

High handedness to mistakes like the one of the pictures can best be
handled through consensus like many on this forum have agreed that such
material  be kept out of this network.

Thank you.

Aluta continua


Ejiku

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM, leku joel  wrote:

> Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on
> this forum
>
>   --
> *From:* harriet alioru 
> *To:* westnilenet@kym.net
> *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM
> *Subject:* [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
>
>
> Please deregister me from this too.
> Thank you
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>
> From: Pamela Paparu 
> Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration
> To: "Westnile Foundation" 
> Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM
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Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread atibuni kefa
Dear all,
Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to 
split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the 
posting tagged “Botanical garden…” has caused.
I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in 
Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as 
insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake.
Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can continue 
discussing development as usual.
Kefa

--- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel  wrote:


From: leku joel 
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" 
Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:43 AM





Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this 
forum 







From: harriet alioru 
To: westnilenet@kym.net 
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM
Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration








Please deregister me from this too.
Thank you
--- On Mon, 9/12/11, Pamela Paparu  wrote:


From: Pamela Paparu 
Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration
To: "Westnile Foundation" 
Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM






Dear Kiggundu,
 
Please kindly de-register me.
 
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Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events

2012-07-23 Thread Caleb Alaka
Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young 
ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans 
can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an 
eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good 
work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many 
Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers

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On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru  wrote:

> Dear all,
> This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. 
> First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm 
> UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world 
> bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO 
> who added on and the MP of Entebbe  among others,  who requested science cafe 
> to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence 
> decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe 
> Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. 
>  
> Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a 
> shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. 
> Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this 
> is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the Month. Watch out 
> for the next.
>  
> We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another, 
> specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for the 
> meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with the 
> community in the evening, the elders  present and all the community members 
> who turned up. Please come again.
> Grateful for all those who supported in spirit.
>  
> Thanks
> Christine
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Re: [WestNileNet] Kenyan Church robbery caught on cameras

2012-07-23 Thread Caleb Alaka
Ismail, 

The problem is not the safety of the Church, Mosque, or Cathedrals or any 
premises of worship. The problem is how humans have been transformed to dare 
God. We once were told as kids stories about persons stealing believers shoes 
from mosques and after duwa being read for them, that habit vanished. Believe 
me you. Those thugs will confess and return those things. The acts of these 
thugs indicates the class struggles, the fact that if you abandon a bright kid 
in the neighborhood and you do not extend a hand to that kid. It is that kid 
with a rotten gun who will kill your Harvard trained Doctor son on his way home 
while driving his posh Mercedes Benz . You remember Allan Patons Cry the 
Beloved Country

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On Jul 23, 2012, at 13:29, Caleb Alaka  wrote:

> This is the epitome of moral decadence. When society decays up to its moral 
> fibre, men and women in such societies cease being human. Like animals, they 
> are not ashamed of desecrating holly places, to rob church goers is a 
> reflection of a dead society
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 12:55, banduga ismail  wrote:
> 
>> Kiggs,
>> 
>> should we continue going to the churches and even mosques? Indeed nowhere is 
>> safe these days.
>> 
>> Ismail
>> --
>> 
>> From: Kiggundu Mukasa 
>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile  
>> Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012, 9:59
>> Subject: [WestNileNet] Kenyan Church robbery caught on cameras
>> 
>> 
>> Nowhere is safe anymore
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgi2RPaR0fU&feature=player_embedded
>> 
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[WestNileNet] De-registration of members

2012-07-23 Thread Caleb Alaka
Dear all, I did not and will never condone nudity on this fora. Again to use 
that unfortunate once a life time incidence to cause a deregistration is Going 
over board. May be 

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Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread leku joel
Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this 
forum 




 From: harriet alioru 
To: westnilenet@kym.net 
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM
Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw:  De-registration
 


Please deregister me from this too.
Thank you
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>From: Pamela Paparu 
>Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration
>To: "Westnile Foundation" 
>Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM
>
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>Dear Kiggundu,
> 
>Please kindly de-register me.
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[WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration

2012-07-23 Thread harriet alioru

Please deregister me from this too.
Thank you
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From: Pamela Paparu 
Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration
To: "Westnile Foundation" 
Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM






Dear Kiggundu,
 
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[WestNileNet] Meeting - Bishop Joel's Silver Jubilee marriage anniversary thanksgiving 28th July 2012

2012-07-23 Thread Acidri David Onzima
 
Dear all
 
I would like to invite you for the only preparatory meeting to support the 
Bishops Silver Jubilee marriage anniversary due on 28th July 2012.
 
The meeting will take place on Tuesday 24th July 2012 at BBQ (Centenary Park) 
commencing from 6.00pm prompt. 
 
The Bishop, Rt Rev Joel Obetia will also be in attendance.
 
We appreciate your presence and your contribution towards this call.
 
Can I request that you continue woth your contributions to either 
 
Sam Ejibua 0772 515648, 
Obizuyo Rosette 0772 511370, 
Rev. Stephen Gelenga - 0772 454523 or 
I (Acidri) - 0772 331786. 
 
All our mobile phones are MM regisered.
 
See you Tuesday
 
Regards
 
Acidri David Onzima
 


 From: Joel Obetia 
To: Acidri David Onzima ; WNF ; Ejibua 
Sam ; Rev. John Atiku ; Jackson 
Atria ; Adiga Jimmy ; 
Abati ; Apollo Odria ; 
Acidri Denis ; Josephine Alidri ; 
Georges Asea- Aswa ; Aderubo Samuel 
; Adutia Abindu Nelson ; 
Sanyu Clare ; Draecabo Charles ; 
Eunice D. Chiria ; "afe...@mtn.co.ug" 
; Erima Robert ; Eric D. Atalao 
; Inzima Lawrence ; Alaka Caleb 
; "angu...@gmail.com" ; Mundua Joel 
; Awule David  
Cc: Obizuyo Rosette Oyua ; Rev Can. Gelenga Stephen 
; Rev Can Isaac Chandia ; Koro 
Eddie  
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Contribution for Bishop Joels Silver Jubilee marriage anniversary 
thanksgiving 28th July 2012
  

I have no words to say thank you to you all. I know God is a rewarder of all 
good works. Nothing for him is done in vain. May he bless you abundantly. I 
want to see all of you in Mvara on that day and see what the Lord has done. 
More blessings
Joel


Rt Rev Dr Joel Samson Obetia (PhD)
Bishop of Madi and West Nile Diocese
P. O. Box 370,
Arua, Uganda.
Mobile +256 785 513 333
jobe...@yahoo.com
 


 From: Acidri David Onzima 
To: WNF ; Ejibua Sam ; Rev. John Atiku 
; Jackson Atria ; Adiga Jimmy 
; Abati ; Apollo Odria 
; Acidri Denis ; Josephine Alidri 
; Georges Asea- Aswa ; Aderubo Samuel 
; Adutia Abindu Nelson ; 
Sanyu Clare ; Draecabo Charles ; 
Eunice D. Chiria ; "afe...@mtn.co.ug" 
; Erima Robert ; Eric D. Atalao 
; Inzima Lawrence ; Alaka Caleb 
; "angu...@gmail.com" ; Josephine 
Alidri ; Mundua Joel ; Awule David 
 
Cc: Obizuyo Rosette Oyua ; Rev Can. Gelenga Stephen 
; Rev Can Isaac Chandia ; 'Joel 
Obetia' ; Koro Eddie  
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: Contribution for Bishop Joels Silver Jubilee marriage anniversary 
thanksgiving 28th July 2012
  

Dear all
 
I know many of you are aware while yet many of you may not be aware that Bishop 
Joel and Can Joy Obetia will celebrate their Silver Jubilee in marruage on 28th 
July 2012.

The CoC, chaired by Yikii Christopher Agatre is working very hard in Arua to 
ensure that what is needed is secured.

A couple of days ago, a few of us met to see how we can raise some money to 
support and be part of that function just as the Lord Bishops has been to 
functions for which we have requested him to officiate here in Kampala. During 
this meeting, I was asked to coordinate the fundraising campaign, which we hope 
will enable us to raise some money towards the function.

It is with the aforesaid that I write to you, to seek your support in 
this project within the remaining few days. You can send your contributions to 
the following persons by mobile money or call any of us to collect it

1. Rev Can Stephen Gelenga 0772 0454523 
2. Ejibua Sam  0772 515648
3. Obizuyo Rosette  0772511370 - Treasurer
4. Acidri David Onzima    07720331786

If you use mobile money, kindly type your names and BISHOP as the reason. This 
will enable us to keep track. Your contributions of any amount will 
significantly cause a change and is highly appreciated.

Finally, I request that you pass on this message to as as many of the persons 
from the West Nile region as you can, whose e-mail contacts I do not have.

Regards

Acidri David Onzima
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Re: [WestNileNet] Kenyan Church robbery caught on cameras

2012-07-23 Thread Caleb Alaka
This is the epitome of moral decadence. When society decays up to its moral 
fibre, men and women in such societies cease being human. Like animals, they 
are not ashamed of desecrating holly places, to rob church goers is a 
reflection of a dead society

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On Jul 23, 2012, at 12:55, banduga ismail  wrote:

> Kiggs,
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> should we continue going to the churches and even mosques? Indeed nowhere is 
> safe these days.
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> From: Kiggundu Mukasa 
> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile  
> Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012, 9:59
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Kenyan Church robbery caught on cameras
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Re: [WestNileNet] Kenyan Church robbery caught on cameras

2012-07-23 Thread banduga ismail
Kiggs,

should we continue going to the churches and even mosques? Indeed nowhere is 
safe these days.

Ismail
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 From: Kiggundu Mukasa 
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile  
Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012, 9:59
Subject: [WestNileNet] Kenyan Church robbery caught on cameras
 



Nowhere is safe anymore

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Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events

2012-07-23 Thread David Olema
Dear Christine, this was another plus. Remember I told you we get in touch when 
I get back home late August over the Lugazi girl. Am still in Germany writing 
my PhD thesis in Psychology (´Traumatology), now you are interesting with the 
science cafe and the Entebbe Kaikai. 
Good job my sister,
David Olema

--- On Mon, 23/7/12, Christine Munduru  wrote:

From: Christine Munduru 
Subject: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" , 
koboko...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 23 July, 2012, 12:03

Dear all,
This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. 
First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC 
news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank 
consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added 
on and the MP of Entebbe  among others,  who requested science cafe to create 
awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision 
making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall 
see how this proceeds. 

 
Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a 
shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. 
Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this 
is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the Month. Watch out 
for the next.

 
We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another, specifically 
we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for the meeting all the 
way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with the community in the 
evening, the elders  present and all the community members who turned up. 
Please come again.

Grateful for all those who supported in spirit.
 
Thanks
Christine

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[WestNileNet] successful science cafe events

2012-07-23 Thread Christine Munduru
Dear all,
This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events.
First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm
UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had
a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from
MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe  among others,  who requested
science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are
equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with
the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds.

Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was
a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was
beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public
demand, this is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the
Month. Watch out for the next.

We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another,
specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for
the meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with
the community in the evening, the elders  present and all the community
members who turned up. Please come again.
Grateful for all those who supported in spirit.

Thanks
Christine
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