Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Em Frank,
i cant download the Subversion Repo ! - the command doesnt
work, neither using NB5.5. or the SVN command direct - can u please tell methe
password for nobody to check it out??
C:\JEE5\nb55projects\woogle>svn
checkout --username nobody http://sf.billen.dk/svn/repos/woogleAnmeldebereich:
<http://sf.billen.dk:80>
Authorization RealmPasswort für 'nobody':Anmeldebereich: <http://sf.billen.dk:80> Authorization
RealmBenutzername: nobodyPasswort für 'nobody':Anmeldebereich:
<http://sf.billen.dk:80>
Authorization RealmBenutzername:Passwort für '': ^C
best
Regards
Korbinian
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Korbinian BachlGesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Oktober 2006
14:41An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re:
[Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Thank you for that link!
Best Regards
Von:
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Frank BilleGesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2006
13:36An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re:
[Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Try taking a look at Woogle and how the url looks when changing
page in the result.I have done this with Bookmarkable pages and did the
pagination myself. http://woogle.billen.dk/ (At
that website there is also a link to the svn
repository)Frank
On 10/11/06, Korbinian Bachl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi
Martijn,the problem is that urls like these http://127.0.0.1:8080/anyApp/app?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink::ILinkListenerwill
kill any spider coming the way - and so the products would never been
followed to, as the list itself wouldnt be browsed.The
products example itself is clear - the problem is that if i want to
havea part where this mustnt happen i cant use any of wickets
components as ihavent found one yet that supports nice URLs.
Regards> -Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag> von
Martijn Dashorst> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2006
12:46> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and
PagingNavigator>> I wouldn't worry about the paging
navigator and the links it> generates... It navigates
through your product catalog, but> doesn't affect the products
itself: each page will contain > different products next time you
add a new product to the list.>> You're after how can to
make the product items in my> datatable/listview generate
bookrmarkable urls.>> So you would do: >>
populateItem(Item item) {> .. creat
parameters> Link link = new
BookmarkablePageLink("link",> ProductPage.class,
parameters);> link.add(new Label("name",
... ); > item.add(link);>
}>> That is what you're after IMO.>>
Martijn>>> On 10/10/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:> > Furthermore, any page you want to have indexable and
bookmarkable> > should be bookmarkable pages anyway.>
>> > Using bookmarkable pages like that makes that you have a
much less > > nice programming paradigm. It's almost like model
2 then.> But without> > the XML files :)>
>> > Eelco> >> >> >>
> On 10/10/06, Matej Knopp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >
> Paging navigator is useful in situations, when you don't> care
that> > > much about url (e.g. intranet applications with
complex > user interface).> > >> > > For
internet applications, where you do care (at least for certain>
> > parts) about URLs, you have to make an effort to achieve>
the urls you need. > > >> > > The problem with
bookmarkable urls is that every time you> click on> >
> one, new page instance is created. So if you have e.g. a
member> > > variable in old page, the variable value won't be
> available in new page instance.> > >> >
> Therefore paging navigator doesn't use bookmarkable urls.>
> >> > > It should not be difficult to modify
PagingNavigator to use > > > bookmarkable urls.> >
>> > > -Matej> > >> > >
Korbinian Bachl wrote:> > > > Hi Matej,> > >
>> > > >> > > >> Well, for browsing
products i wouldn't use> PagingNavigator
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Thank you for that link!
Best Regards
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Frank
BilleGesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2006 13:36An:
wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL
and PagingNavigator
Try taking a look at Woogle and how the url looks when changing
page in the result.I have done this with Bookmarkable pages and did the
pagination myself. http://woogle.billen.dk/ (At that
website there is also a link to the svn repository)Frank
On 10/11/06, Korbinian
Bachl <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi
Martijn,the problem is that urls like these http://127.0.0.1:8080/anyApp/app?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink::ILinkListenerwill
kill any spider coming the way - and so the products would never been
followed to, as the list itself wouldnt be browsed.The products
example itself is clear - the problem is that if i want to havea part
where this mustnt happen i cant use any of wickets components as ihavent
found one yet that supports nice URLs. Regards>
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag> von
Martijn Dashorst> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2006 12:46>
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and
PagingNavigator>> I wouldn't worry about the paging navigator
and the links it> generates... It navigates through your
product catalog, but> doesn't affect the products itself: each page
will contain > different products next time you add a new product to
the list.>> You're after how can to make the product items in
my> datatable/listview generate bookrmarkable urls.>>
So you would do: >> populateItem(Item item)
{> .. creat
parameters> Link link = new
BookmarkablePageLink("link",> ProductPage.class,
parameters);> link.add(new Label("name", ...
); > item.add(link);>
}>> That is what you're after IMO.>>
Martijn>>> On 10/10/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote:> > Furthermore, any page you want to have indexable and
bookmarkable> > should be bookmarkable pages anyway.>
>> > Using bookmarkable pages like that makes that you have a
much less > > nice programming paradigm. It's almost like model 2
then.> But without> > the XML files :)> >>
> Eelco> >> >> >> > On 10/10/06,
Matej Knopp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> > > Paging navigator is useful in situations, when you
don't> care that> > > much about url (e.g. intranet
applications with complex > user interface).> >
>> > > For internet applications, where you do care (at
least for certain> > > parts) about URLs, you have to make an
effort to achieve> the urls you need. > > >> >
> The problem with bookmarkable urls is that every time you> click
on> > > one, new page instance is created. So if you have e.g.
a member> > > variable in old page, the variable value won't be
> available in new page instance.> > >> > >
Therefore paging navigator doesn't use bookmarkable urls.> >
>> > > It should not be difficult to modify PagingNavigator
to use > > > bookmarkable urls.> > >> >
> -Matej> > >> > > Korbinian Bachl
wrote:> > > > Hi Matej,> > > >> >
> >> > > >> Well, for browsing products i wouldn't
use> PagingNavigator in a> > > >> first
place.> > > >> > > > ok, what else would you
use? - i mean a PagingNavigator and a > > > > DataView seems
to me as its made for beeing a product-category> > > >
browser (as you have e.g. 30 toycars and want only 16 max items> >
> > per page)> > > > > > > >> Of
course it is prossible to have such product browser> in
wicket,> > > >> even with nice urls.> > >
>>> > > >> class ProductsPage extends WebPage {
> > > >> public
ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)> > >
>> {> > >
>> //
this is just an example, you'd probably> > >
>> //
need something bit more sophisticated :) > > >
>> int
currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");> > &
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
> > the problem is that urls like these > http://127.0.0.1:8080/anyApp/app?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1 > :pageLink::ILinkListener > will kill any spider coming the way - and so the products would never been > followed to, as the list itself wouldnt be browsed. And they should kill spiders, as these are internal URLs. What Martijn suggested is to use bookmarkable urls, which translate much nicer, and if you use that together with RequestParameters and page (or package) URL mounting, you'll have reasonably nice URLs. > The products example itself is clear - the problem is that if i want to have > a part where this mustnt happen i cant use any of wickets components as i > havent found one yet that supports nice URLs. Yeah, certainly at this time, any nice URL support has to be explicitly. In some future version, we might find a situation where we can push state of component so that they are part of links, but at this time, we can't. Eelco - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Try taking a look at Woogle and how the url looks when changing page in the result.I have done this with Bookmarkable pages and did the pagination myself. http://woogle.billen.dk/
(At that website there is also a link to the svn repository)FrankOn 10/11/06, Korbinian Bachl <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi Martijn,the problem is that urls like these
http://127.0.0.1:8080/anyApp/app?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink::ILinkListenerwill kill any spider coming the way - and so the products would never been
followed to, as the list itself wouldnt be browsed.The products example itself is clear - the problem is that if i want to havea part where this mustnt happen i cant use any of wickets components as ihavent found one yet that supports nice URLs.
Regards> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag> von Martijn Dashorst> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2006 12:46> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator>> I wouldn't worry about the paging navigator and the links it> generates... It navigates through your product catalog, but> doesn't affect the products itself: each page will contain
> different products next time you add a new product to the list.>> You're after how can to make the product items in my> datatable/listview generate bookrmarkable urls.>> So you would do:
>> populateItem(Item item) {> .. creat parameters> Link link = new BookmarkablePageLink("link",> ProductPage.class, parameters);> link.add(new Label("name", ... );
> item.add(link);> }>> That is what you're after IMO.>> Martijn>>> On 10/10/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> > Furthermore, any page you want to have indexable and bookmarkable> > should be bookmarkable pages anyway.> >> > Using bookmarkable pages like that makes that you have a much less
> > nice programming paradigm. It's almost like model 2 then.> But without> > the XML files :)> >> > Eelco> >> >> >> > On 10/10/06, Matej Knopp <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Paging navigator is useful in situations, when you don't> care that> > > much about url (e.g. intranet applications with complex
> user interface).> > >> > > For internet applications, where you do care (at least for certain> > > parts) about URLs, you have to make an effort to achieve> the urls you need.
> > >> > > The problem with bookmarkable urls is that every time you> click on> > > one, new page instance is created. So if you have e.g. a member> > > variable in old page, the variable value won't be
> available in new page instance.> > >> > > Therefore paging navigator doesn't use bookmarkable urls.> > >> > > It should not be difficult to modify PagingNavigator to use
> > > bookmarkable urls.> > >> > > -Matej> > >> > > Korbinian Bachl wrote:> > > > Hi Matej,> > > >> > > >
> > > >> Well, for browsing products i wouldn't use> PagingNavigator in a> > > >> first place.> > > >> > > > ok, what else would you use? - i mean a PagingNavigator and a
> > > > DataView seems to me as its made for beeing a product-category> > > > browser (as you have e.g. 30 toycars and want only 16 max items> > > > per page)> > > >
> > > >> Of course it is prossible to have such product browser> in wicket,> > > >> even with nice urls.> > > >>> > > >> class ProductsPage extends WebPage {
> > > >> public ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)> > > >> {> > > >> // this is just an example, you'd probably> > > >> // need something bit more sophisticated :)
> > > >> int currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");> > > >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("prev", new> > > >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage-1)));
> > > >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("next", new> > > >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage+1)));> > > >>> > > >> }
> > > >>> > > >> }> > > >>> > > >> so if you mount products page to "/products", you can get urls> > > >> like /products/page/1, products/page/2 ...
> > > >&
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Hi Martijn,
the problem is that urls like these
http://127.0.0.1:8080/anyApp/app?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1
:pageLink::ILinkListener
will kill any spider coming the way - and so the products would never been
followed to, as the list itself wouldnt be browsed.
The products example itself is clear - the problem is that if i want to have
a part where this mustnt happen i cant use any of wickets components as i
havent found one yet that supports nice URLs.
Regards
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
> von Martijn Dashorst
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2006 12:46
> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>
> I wouldn't worry about the paging navigator and the links it
> generates... It navigates through your product catalog, but
> doesn't affect the products itself: each page will contain
> different products next time you add a new product to the list.
>
> You're after how can to make the product items in my
> datatable/listview generate bookrmarkable urls.
>
> So you would do:
>
> populateItem(Item item) {
> .. creat parameters
> Link link = new BookmarkablePageLink("link",
> ProductPage.class, parameters);
> link.add(new Label("name", ... );
> item.add(link);
> }
>
> That is what you're after IMO.
>
> Martijn
>
>
> On 10/10/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Furthermore, any page you want to have indexable and bookmarkable
> > should be bookmarkable pages anyway.
> >
> > Using bookmarkable pages like that makes that you have a much less
> > nice programming paradigm. It's almost like model 2 then.
> But without
> > the XML files :)
> >
> > Eelco
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/10/06, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Paging navigator is useful in situations, when you don't
> care that
> > > much about url (e.g. intranet applications with complex
> user interface).
> > >
> > > For internet applications, where you do care (at least for certain
> > > parts) about URLs, you have to make an effort to achieve
> the urls you need.
> > >
> > > The problem with bookmarkable urls is that every time you
> click on
> > > one, new page instance is created. So if you have e.g. a member
> > > variable in old page, the variable value won't be
> available in new page instance.
> > >
> > > Therefore paging navigator doesn't use bookmarkable urls.
> > >
> > > It should not be difficult to modify PagingNavigator to use
> > > bookmarkable urls.
> > >
> > > -Matej
> > >
> > > Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> > > > Hi Matej,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Well, for browsing products i wouldn't use
> PagingNavigator in a
> > > >> first place.
> > > >
> > > > ok, what else would you use? - i mean a PagingNavigator and a
> > > > DataView seems to me as its made for beeing a product-category
> > > > browser (as you have e.g. 30 toycars and want only 16 max items
> > > > per page)
> > > >
> > > >> Of course it is prossible to have such product browser
> in wicket,
> > > >> even with nice urls.
> > > >>
> > > >> class ProductsPage extends WebPage {
> > > >> public ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)
> > > >> {
> > > >> // this is just an example, you'd probably
> > > >> // need something bit more sophisticated :)
> > > >> int currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");
> > > >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("prev", new
> > > >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage-1)));
> > > >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("next", new
> > > >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage+1)));
> > > >>
> > > >> }
> > > >>
> > > >> }
> > > >>
> > > >> so if you mount products page to "/products", you can get urls
> > > >> like /products/page/1, products/page/2 ...
> > > >
> > > > ok, so if I understand this right, it would be enough to modify
> > > > the PagingNavigator to use BookmarkablePageLink with the
> > > &g
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
I wouldn't worry about the paging navigator and the links it
generates... It navigates through your product catalog, but doesn't
affect the products itself: each page will contain different products
next time you add a new product to the list.
You're after how can to make the product items in my
datatable/listview generate bookrmarkable urls.
So you would do:
populateItem(Item item) {
.. creat parameters
Link link = new BookmarkablePageLink("link", ProductPage.class, parameters);
link.add(new Label("name", ... );
item.add(link);
}
That is what you're after IMO.
Martijn
On 10/10/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Furthermore, any page you want to have indexable and bookmarkable
> should be bookmarkable pages anyway.
>
> Using bookmarkable pages like that makes that you have a much less
> nice programming paradigm. It's almost like model 2 then. But without
> the XML files :)
>
> Eelco
>
>
>
> On 10/10/06, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Paging navigator is useful in situations, when you don't care that much
> > about url (e.g. intranet applications with complex user interface).
> >
> > For internet applications, where you do care (at least for certain
> > parts) about URLs, you have to make an effort to achieve the urls you need.
> >
> > The problem with bookmarkable urls is that every time you click on one,
> > new page instance is created. So if you have e.g. a member variable in
> > old page, the variable value won't be available in new page instance.
> >
> > Therefore paging navigator doesn't use bookmarkable urls.
> >
> > It should not be difficult to modify PagingNavigator to use bookmarkable
> > urls.
> >
> > -Matej
> >
> > Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> > > Hi Matej,
> > >
> > >
> > >> Well, for browsing products i wouldn't use PagingNavigator in
> > >> a first place.
> > >
> > > ok, what else would you use? - i mean a PagingNavigator and a DataView
> > > seems
> > > to me as its made for beeing a product-category browser (as you have e.g.
> > > 30
> > > toycars and want only 16 max items per page)
> > >
> > >> Of course it is prossible to have such product browser in
> > >> wicket, even with nice urls.
> > >>
> > >> class ProductsPage extends WebPage
> > >> {
> > >> public ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)
> > >> {
> > >> // this is just an example, you'd probably
> > >> // need something bit more sophisticated :)
> > >> int currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");
> > >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("prev", new
> > >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage-1)));
> > >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("next", new
> > >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage+1)));
> > >>
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> so if you mount products page to "/products", you can get
> > >> urls like /products/page/1, products/page/2 ...
> > >
> > > ok, so if I understand this right, it would be enough to modify the
> > > PagingNavigator to use BookmarkablePageLink with the parameters ? If this
> > > is
> > > so, why doesnt the PagingNavigator provide this functionality by itself?
> > > or
> > > might this run into other problems?
> > >
> > > Any help is really appreciated,
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Korbinian
> > >
> > >> -Matej
> > >>
> > >> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> > >>> Hi Matej,
> > >>>
> > >>> this is a big problem. I can live with not beeing able to
> > >> have Tabbed
> > >>> Panels but imagine a onlinestore where you can browse the
> > >> products but
> > >>> the url is not bookmarkable. That just wouldnt work for the
> > >> users as
> > >>> well as all search engines !
> > >>>
> > >>> Ajax is also not a solution as google & co dont care about that!
> > >>>
> > >>> Dont you know any (even theorethical) possibility to have URLs like
> > >>> /products/page/2 for pagination ? i mean that component must use a
> > >>> parameter to call it and this one ju
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Furthermore, any page you want to have indexable and bookmarkable
should be bookmarkable pages anyway.
Using bookmarkable pages like that makes that you have a much less
nice programming paradigm. It's almost like model 2 then. But without
the XML files :)
Eelco
On 10/10/06, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paging navigator is useful in situations, when you don't care that much
> about url (e.g. intranet applications with complex user interface).
>
> For internet applications, where you do care (at least for certain
> parts) about URLs, you have to make an effort to achieve the urls you need.
>
> The problem with bookmarkable urls is that every time you click on one,
> new page instance is created. So if you have e.g. a member variable in
> old page, the variable value won't be available in new page instance.
>
> Therefore paging navigator doesn't use bookmarkable urls.
>
> It should not be difficult to modify PagingNavigator to use bookmarkable
> urls.
>
> -Matej
>
> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> > Hi Matej,
> >
> >
> >> Well, for browsing products i wouldn't use PagingNavigator in
> >> a first place.
> >
> > ok, what else would you use? - i mean a PagingNavigator and a DataView seems
> > to me as its made for beeing a product-category browser (as you have e.g. 30
> > toycars and want only 16 max items per page)
> >
> >> Of course it is prossible to have such product browser in
> >> wicket, even with nice urls.
> >>
> >> class ProductsPage extends WebPage
> >> {
> >> public ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)
> >> {
> >> // this is just an example, you'd probably
> >> // need something bit more sophisticated :)
> >> int currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");
> >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("prev", new
> >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage-1)));
> >> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("next", new
> >> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage+1)));
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >> so if you mount products page to "/products", you can get
> >> urls like /products/page/1, products/page/2 ...
> >
> > ok, so if I understand this right, it would be enough to modify the
> > PagingNavigator to use BookmarkablePageLink with the parameters ? If this is
> > so, why doesnt the PagingNavigator provide this functionality by itself? or
> > might this run into other problems?
> >
> > Any help is really appreciated,
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Korbinian
> >
> >> -Matej
> >>
> >> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> >>> Hi Matej,
> >>>
> >>> this is a big problem. I can live with not beeing able to
> >> have Tabbed
> >>> Panels but imagine a onlinestore where you can browse the
> >> products but
> >>> the url is not bookmarkable. That just wouldnt work for the
> >> users as
> >>> well as all search engines !
> >>>
> >>> Ajax is also not a solution as google & co dont care about that!
> >>>
> >>> Dont you know any (even theorethical) possibility to have URLs like
> >>> /products/page/2 for pagination ? i mean that component must use a
> >>> parameter to call it and this one just has to be passed... is this
> >>> behaviour going to change in Wicket 2 ??? or are nice URLs
> >> there a half-done-feature, too ?
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
> >>>> Matej Knopp
> >>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 13:49
> >>>> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a simple answer for your question: You can't.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's due to how wicket works. Since Wicket manages your
> >> application
> >>>> state and takes care of the urls for you, you can't alter them
> >>>> significantly.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you need tabbed panel like functionality while having
> >> nice urls,
> >>>> you have to have different pages and simply use bookmarkable link
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> Hi Matej,
>
> this is a big problem. I can live with not beeing able to have Tabbed Panels
> but imagine a onlinestore where you can browse the products but the url is
> not bookmarkable. That just wouldnt work for the users as well as all search
> engines !
>
> Ajax is also not a solution as google & co dont care about that!
>
> Dont you know any (even theorethical) possibility to have URLs like
> /products/page/2 for pagination ? i mean that component must use a parameter
> to call it and this one just has to be passed... is this behaviour going to
> change in Wicket 2 ??? or are nice URLs there a half-done-feature, too ?
Sounds like you're after stateless pages.
But someone other than me is going to have to tell you about them,
because I've just told you everything I know :-(
Regards, Upayavira
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
>> von Matej Knopp
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 13:49
>> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>>
>> There is a simple answer for your question: You can't.
>>
>> It's due to how wicket works. Since Wicket manages your
>> application state and takes care of the urls for you, you
>> can't alter them significantly.
>>
>> If you need tabbed panel like functionality while having nice
>> urls, you have to have different pages and simply use
>> bookmarkable links for every page.
>>
>> Paging navigator's url could be little nicer if we didn't
>> disable redirect, e.g. ?wicket:interface=:2:: .
>>
>> Alternatively you can use ajax paging navigator (and ajax
>> tabbed panel), which would case the url to stay unchanged.
>>
>> -Matej
>>
>>
>> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
>>> I extend the question further: How can i have a nice URL and use a
>>> TabbedPanel component???
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------
>> --
>>> *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im
>> Auftrag von
>>> *Korbinian Bachl
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 12:01
>>> *An:* wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> *Betreff:* [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> i have a page, call it products, and i implement a
>> Paging Navigator
>>> there, as its not good to have mor than e.g. 10
>> products on page at
>>> same time.
>>>
>>> I then mount the products via
>> mountBookmarkablePage("/products",
>>> Product.class);
>>>
>>> by executing it all works at first, but when using a
>> link from the
>>> paging navigation the URL changes to
>>>
>> ?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink:1:ILinkListener
>>> instead of showing a nice /products/page/2 or sth like that.
>>>
>>> How can i achive this behavior?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Korbinian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Paging navigator is useful in situations, when you don't care that much
about url (e.g. intranet applications with complex user interface).
For internet applications, where you do care (at least for certain
parts) about URLs, you have to make an effort to achieve the urls you need.
The problem with bookmarkable urls is that every time you click on one,
new page instance is created. So if you have e.g. a member variable in
old page, the variable value won't be available in new page instance.
Therefore paging navigator doesn't use bookmarkable urls.
It should not be difficult to modify PagingNavigator to use bookmarkable
urls.
-Matej
Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> Hi Matej,
>
>
>> Well, for browsing products i wouldn't use PagingNavigator in
>> a first place.
>
> ok, what else would you use? - i mean a PagingNavigator and a DataView seems
> to me as its made for beeing a product-category browser (as you have e.g. 30
> toycars and want only 16 max items per page)
>
>> Of course it is prossible to have such product browser in
>> wicket, even with nice urls.
>>
>> class ProductsPage extends WebPage
>> {
>> public ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)
>> {
>> // this is just an example, you'd probably
>> // need something bit more sophisticated :)
>> int currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");
>> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("prev", new
>> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage-1)));
>> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("next", new
>> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage+1)));
>>
>> }
>>
>> }
>>
>> so if you mount products page to "/products", you can get
>> urls like /products/page/1, products/page/2 ...
>
> ok, so if I understand this right, it would be enough to modify the
> PagingNavigator to use BookmarkablePageLink with the parameters ? If this is
> so, why doesnt the PagingNavigator provide this functionality by itself? or
> might this run into other problems?
>
> Any help is really appreciated,
>
> Regards
>
> Korbinian
>
>> -Matej
>>
>> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
>>> Hi Matej,
>>>
>>> this is a big problem. I can live with not beeing able to
>> have Tabbed
>>> Panels but imagine a onlinestore where you can browse the
>> products but
>>> the url is not bookmarkable. That just wouldnt work for the
>> users as
>>> well as all search engines !
>>>
>>> Ajax is also not a solution as google & co dont care about that!
>>>
>>> Dont you know any (even theorethical) possibility to have URLs like
>>> /products/page/2 for pagination ? i mean that component must use a
>>> parameter to call it and this one just has to be passed... is this
>>> behaviour going to change in Wicket 2 ??? or are nice URLs
>> there a half-done-feature, too ?
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
>>>> Matej Knopp
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 13:49
>>>> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>>>>
>>>> There is a simple answer for your question: You can't.
>>>>
>>>> It's due to how wicket works. Since Wicket manages your
>> application
>>>> state and takes care of the urls for you, you can't alter them
>>>> significantly.
>>>>
>>>> If you need tabbed panel like functionality while having
>> nice urls,
>>>> you have to have different pages and simply use bookmarkable links
>>>> for every page.
>>>>
>>>> Paging navigator's url could be little nicer if we didn't disable
>>>> redirect, e.g. ?wicket:interface=:2:: .
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively you can use ajax paging navigator (and ajax tabbed
>>>> panel), which would case the url to stay unchanged.
>>>>
>>>> -Matej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
>>>>> I extend the question further: How can i have a nice URL
>> and use a
>>>>> TabbedPanel component???
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Hi Matej,
this is a big problem. I can live with not beeing able to have Tabbed Panels
but imagine a onlinestore where you can browse the products but the url is
not bookmarkable. That just wouldnt work for the users as well as all search
engines !
Ajax is also not a solution as google & co dont care about that!
Dont you know any (even theorethical) possibility to have URLs like
/products/page/2 for pagination ? i mean that component must use a parameter
to call it and this one just has to be passed... is this behaviour going to
change in Wicket 2 ??? or are nice URLs there a half-done-feature, too ?
Regards
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
> von Matej Knopp
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 13:49
> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>
> There is a simple answer for your question: You can't.
>
> It's due to how wicket works. Since Wicket manages your
> application state and takes care of the urls for you, you
> can't alter them significantly.
>
> If you need tabbed panel like functionality while having nice
> urls, you have to have different pages and simply use
> bookmarkable links for every page.
>
> Paging navigator's url could be little nicer if we didn't
> disable redirect, e.g. ?wicket:interface=:2:: .
>
> Alternatively you can use ajax paging navigator (and ajax
> tabbed panel), which would case the url to stay unchanged.
>
> -Matej
>
>
> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> > I extend the question further: How can i have a nice URL and use a
> > TabbedPanel component???
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> --
> --
> > *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im
> Auftrag von
> > *Korbinian Bachl
> > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 12:01
> > *An:* wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > *Betreff:* [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > i have a page, call it products, and i implement a
> Paging Navigator
> > there, as its not good to have mor than e.g. 10
> products on page at
> > same time.
> >
> > I then mount the products via
> mountBookmarkablePage("/products",
> > Product.class);
> >
> > by executing it all works at first, but when using a
> link from the
> > paging navigation the URL changes to
> >
> ?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink:1:ILinkListener
> > instead of showing a nice /products/page/2 or sth like that.
> >
> > How can i achive this behavior?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Korbinian
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Hi Matej,
> Well, for browsing products i wouldn't use PagingNavigator in
> a first place.
ok, what else would you use? - i mean a PagingNavigator and a DataView seems
to me as its made for beeing a product-category browser (as you have e.g. 30
toycars and want only 16 max items per page)
>
> Of course it is prossible to have such product browser in
> wicket, even with nice urls.
>
> class ProductsPage extends WebPage
> {
> public ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)
> {
> // this is just an example, you'd probably
> // need something bit more sophisticated :)
> int currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");
> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("prev", new
> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage-1)));
> add(new BookmarkablePageLink("next", new
> PageParameters("page=" + (currentPage+1)));
>
> }
>
> }
>
> so if you mount products page to "/products", you can get
> urls like /products/page/1, products/page/2 ...
ok, so if I understand this right, it would be enough to modify the
PagingNavigator to use BookmarkablePageLink with the parameters ? If this is
so, why doesnt the PagingNavigator provide this functionality by itself? or
might this run into other problems?
Any help is really appreciated,
Regards
Korbinian
>
> -Matej
>
> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> > Hi Matej,
> >
> > this is a big problem. I can live with not beeing able to
> have Tabbed
> > Panels but imagine a onlinestore where you can browse the
> products but
> > the url is not bookmarkable. That just wouldnt work for the
> users as
> > well as all search engines !
> >
> > Ajax is also not a solution as google & co dont care about that!
> >
> > Dont you know any (even theorethical) possibility to have URLs like
> > /products/page/2 for pagination ? i mean that component must use a
> > parameter to call it and this one just has to be passed... is this
> > behaviour going to change in Wicket 2 ??? or are nice URLs
> there a half-done-feature, too ?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
> >> Matej Knopp
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 13:49
> >> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
> >>
> >> There is a simple answer for your question: You can't.
> >>
> >> It's due to how wicket works. Since Wicket manages your
> application
> >> state and takes care of the urls for you, you can't alter them
> >> significantly.
> >>
> >> If you need tabbed panel like functionality while having
> nice urls,
> >> you have to have different pages and simply use bookmarkable links
> >> for every page.
> >>
> >> Paging navigator's url could be little nicer if we didn't disable
> >> redirect, e.g. ?wicket:interface=:2:: .
> >>
> >> Alternatively you can use ajax paging navigator (and ajax tabbed
> >> panel), which would case the url to stay unchanged.
> >>
> >> -Matej
> >>
> >>
> >> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> >>> I extend the question further: How can i have a nice URL
> and use a
> >>> TabbedPanel component???
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> --
> >>> *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im
> >> Auftrag von
> >>> *Korbinian Bachl
> >>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 12:01
> >>> *An:* wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> *Betreff:* [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> i have a page, call it products, and i implement a
> >> Paging Navigator
> >>> there, as its not good to have mor than e.g. 10
> >> products on page at
> >>> same time.
> >>>
> >>> I then mount the products via
> >> mountBookmarkablePage("/products",
> >>> Product.class);
> >>>
> >>> by executing it all works at first, but when
Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Well, for browsing products i wouldn't use PagingNavigator in a first place.
Of course it is prossible to have such product browser in wicket, even
with nice urls.
class ProductsPage extends WebPage
{
public ProductsPage(PageParameters parameters)
{
// this is just an example, you'd probably
// need something bit more sophisticated :)
int currentPage = parameters.getInt("page");
add(new BookmarkablePageLink("prev", new PageParameters("page="
+
(currentPage-1)));
add(new BookmarkablePageLink("next", new PageParameters("page="
+
(currentPage+1)));
}
}
so if you mount products page to "/products", you can get urls like
/products/page/1, products/page/2 ...
-Matej
Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> Hi Matej,
>
> this is a big problem. I can live with not beeing able to have Tabbed Panels
> but imagine a onlinestore where you can browse the products but the url is
> not bookmarkable. That just wouldnt work for the users as well as all search
> engines !
>
> Ajax is also not a solution as google & co dont care about that!
>
> Dont you know any (even theorethical) possibility to have URLs like
> /products/page/2 for pagination ? i mean that component must use a parameter
> to call it and this one just has to be passed... is this behaviour going to
> change in Wicket 2 ??? or are nice URLs there a half-done-feature, too ?
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
>> von Matej Knopp
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 13:49
>> An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>>
>> There is a simple answer for your question: You can't.
>>
>> It's due to how wicket works. Since Wicket manages your
>> application state and takes care of the urls for you, you
>> can't alter them significantly.
>>
>> If you need tabbed panel like functionality while having nice
>> urls, you have to have different pages and simply use
>> bookmarkable links for every page.
>>
>> Paging navigator's url could be little nicer if we didn't
>> disable redirect, e.g. ?wicket:interface=:2:: .
>>
>> Alternatively you can use ajax paging navigator (and ajax
>> tabbed panel), which would case the url to stay unchanged.
>>
>> -Matej
>>
>>
>> Korbinian Bachl wrote:
>>> I extend the question further: How can i have a nice URL and use a
>>> TabbedPanel component???
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> --
>>> *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im
>> Auftrag von
>>> *Korbinian Bachl
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 12:01
>>> *An:* wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> *Betreff:* [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> i have a page, call it products, and i implement a
>> Paging Navigator
>>> there, as its not good to have mor than e.g. 10
>> products on page at
>>> same time.
>>>
>>> I then mount the products via
>> mountBookmarkablePage("/products",
>>> Product.class);
>>>
>>> by executing it all works at first, but when using a
>> link from the
>>> paging navigation the URL changes to
>>>
>> ?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink:1:ILinkListener
>>> instead of showing a nice /products/page/2 or sth like that.
>>>
>>> How can i achive this behavior?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Korbinian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
There is a simple answer for your question: You can't.
It's due to how wicket works. Since Wicket manages your application
state and takes care of the urls for you, you can't alter them
significantly.
If you need tabbed panel like functionality while having nice urls, you
have to have different pages and simply use bookmarkable links for every
page.
Paging navigator's url could be little nicer if we didn't disable
redirect, e.g. ?wicket:interface=:2:: .
Alternatively you can use ajax paging navigator (and ajax tabbed panel),
which would case the url to stay unchanged.
-Matej
Korbinian Bachl wrote:
> I extend the question further: How can i have a nice URL and use a
> TabbedPanel component???
>
> Regards
>
>
> *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von
> *Korbinian Bachl
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 12:01
> *An:* wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Betreff:* [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
>
> Hi,
>
> i have a page, call it products, and i implement a Paging Navigator
> there, as its not good to have mor than e.g. 10 products on page at
> same time.
>
> I then mount the products via mountBookmarkablePage("/products",
> Product.class);
>
> by executing it all works at first, but when using a link from the
> paging navigation the URL changes to
> ?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink:1:ILinkListener
> instead of showing a nice /products/page/2 or sth like that.
>
> How can i achive this behavior?
>
> Regards,
>
> Korbinian
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
I extend the question further: How can i have a nice URL
and use a TabbedPanel component???
Regards
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
Korbinian BachlGesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006
12:01An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff:
[Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Hi,
i have a page,
call it products, and i implement a Paging Navigator there, as its not good to
have mor than e.g. 10 products on page at same time.
I then mount the
products via mountBookmarkablePage("/products",
Product.class);
by executing it
all works at first, but when using a link from the paging navigation the URL
changes to
?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink:1:ILinkListener
instead of showing
a nice /products/page/2 or sth like that.
How can i achive
this behavior?
Regards,
Korbinian
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[Wicket-user] NiceURL and PagingNavigator
Hi,
i have a page, call
it products, and i implement a Paging Navigator there, as its not good to have
mor than e.g. 10 products on page at same time.
I then mount the
products via mountBookmarkablePage("/products",
Product.class);
by executing it all
works at first, but when using a link from the paging navigation the URL changes
to
?wicket:interface=:2:pagination:navigation:1:pageLink:1:ILinkListener
instead of showing a
nice /products/page/2 or sth like that.
How can i achive
this behavior?
Regards,
Korbinian
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