[Wicket-user] Wicket book?
Hi, As a new comer, I was wondering if there was an existing text on Wicket, or one in the pipeline - "Wicket In Action" maybe? Or is Wicket considered to be so simple that there isn't a need? Cheers, Christopher. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Wicket book
Hello all, Is there a book on Wicket? If not – is there a plan for such a book? A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary J Thanks Rivka
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book?
Yep. Martijn and I are working on Wicket In Action. And as a spin off, we'd like to improve our normal documentation a bit too. Eelco On 12/20/05, Christopher Dodunski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > As a new comer, I was wondering if there was an existing text on Wicket, > or one in the pipeline - "Wicket In Action" maybe? Or is Wicket > considered to be so simple that there isn't a need? > > Cheers, > > Christopher. > > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > ___ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book?
And you can always look on the wiki, and on my blog (there are some chapters from the reference guide there). Also, don't miss the component reference in the wicket-examples project (see them here: http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/compref) MartijnOn 12/20/05, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yep. Martijn and I are working on Wicket In Action. And as a spin off,we'd like to improve our normal documentation a bit too.EelcoOn 12/20/05, Christopher Dodunski < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi,>> As a new comer, I was wondering if there was an existing text on Wicket,> or one in the pipeline - "Wicket In Action" maybe? Or is Wicket > considered to be so simple that there isn't a need?>> Cheers,>> Christopher. ---> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click> ___> Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user >---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&opclick___ Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life...Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorstWicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1
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Or is Wicket considered to be so simple that there isn't a need? Exactly! :)johan
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Afaik two of the main developers are currently working on a Wicket in Action book. I don't know anything about schedules, but I guess they were quite busy lately to push the 1.2 out the door. hth, ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p. On 5/1/06, Rivka Shisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all, Is there a book on Wicket? If not – is there a plan for such a book? A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary J Thanks Rivka --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
Yeah, Martijn and me are working on Wicket In Action (Manning). It'll be a few months; it's a lot of work and I found that you really have to have inspiration days for writing. Anyway, working on it. Until then, please use this list, the IRC channel, the WIKI and whatever other means we have for communicating when you have questions. Cheers, Eelco On 5/1/06, Alexandru Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Afaik two of the main developers are currently working on a Wicket in Action book. I don't know anything about schedules, but I guess they were quite busy lately to push the 1.2 out the door. hth, ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p. On 5/1/06, Rivka Shisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > Is there a book on Wicket? If not – is there a plan for such a book? > > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary J > > > > Thanks > > Rivka > > --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
Rivka Shisman schrieb: A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library Timo --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, to be perfectly honest. On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rivka Shisman schrieb: > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library Timo --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
Vincent Jenks schrieb: Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, to be perfectly honest. "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become damn useful!" Timo On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rivka Shisman schrieb: > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library Timo --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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It's very useful, however, it's also lacking quite a bit of information. The Wiki and the Javadoc doesn't get you as far as you'd hope, as a newbie. I use the Wiki, search the mailing list, and then post when I run out of options for info. Anyhow, everything is improving daily...including the wiki. On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vincent Jenks schrieb: > Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without > this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, > to be perfectly honest. "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become damn useful!" Timo > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Rivka Shisman schrieb: >> > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) >> >> Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk >> >> There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: >> http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide >> >> Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot >> of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library >> >> >> Timo >> >> >> --- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job >> easier >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache >> Geronimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >> ___ >> Wicket-user mailing list >> Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user >> > > > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 > ___ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
Due to the lack of time most of us have here, we need to make choices. I think the WIKI is great for getting the contributions from the community itself, though the core devs - especially Gwyn - regularly update it too. But it's really great to see more people are helping out and writing items on the WIKI. I try to focus on examples personally. Everyone has a different way of learning; I find examples always really useful, and it has the additional advantage of functioning as proof-of-concept/ test code a lot of times. Just my 2c, Eelco On 5/1/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's very useful, however, it's also lacking quite a bit of information. The Wiki and the Javadoc doesn't get you as far as you'd hope, as a newbie. I use the Wiki, search the mailing list, and then post when I run out of options for info. Anyhow, everything is improving daily...including the wiki. On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vincent Jenks schrieb: > > Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without > > this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, > > to be perfectly honest. > > "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have > better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become > damn useful!" > > > Timo > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Rivka Shisman schrieb: > >> > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) > >> > >> Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk > >> > >> There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: > >> http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide > >> > >> Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot > >> of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library > >> > >> > >> Timo > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > >> easier > >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > >> Geronimo > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > >> ___ > >> Wicket-user mailing list > >> Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > >> > > > > > > --- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 > > ___ > > Wicket-user mailing list > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > > > > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > ___ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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I have to agree. What would be nice, if possible, is a small example code snippet in the Javadoc for each object. However, some may feel that code doesn't belong in there at all and should be in the wiki instead. Personally, I like example code too but small examples don't always fully illustrate some conceptsthat's there the wiki comes in. On 5/1/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Due to the lack of time most of us have here, we need to make choices. I think the WIKI is great for getting the contributions from the community itself, though the core devs - especially Gwyn - regularly update it too. But it's really great to see more people are helping out and writing items on the WIKI. I try to focus on examples personally. Everyone has a different way of learning; I find examples always really useful, and it has the additional advantage of functioning as proof-of-concept/ test code a lot of times. Just my 2c, Eelco On 5/1/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's very useful, however, it's also lacking quite a bit of > information. The Wiki and the Javadoc doesn't get you as far as you'd > hope, as a newbie. > > I use the Wiki, search the mailing list, and then post when I run out > of options for info. > > Anyhow, everything is improving daily...including the wiki. > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vincent Jenks schrieb: > > > Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without > > > this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, > > > to be perfectly honest. > > > > "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have > > better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become > > damn useful!" > > > > > > Timo > > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Rivka Shisman schrieb: > > >> > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) > > >> > > >> Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk > > >> > > >> There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: > > >> http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide > > >> > > >> Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot > > >> of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library > > >> > > >> > > >> Timo > > >> > > >> > > >> --- > > >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > >> easier > > >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > >> Geronimo > > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > >> ___ > > >> Wicket-user mailing list > > >> Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > > easier > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 > > > ___ > > > Wicket-user mailing list > > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > ___ > > Wicket-user mailing list > > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > > > > > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 > ___ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
One thing that often gets overlooked is the wicket-examples module/project, which is either available as a download (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=119783&package_id=138752) or live at http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/, although the live is based on the last major release, rather than the 1.2 at the moment. It's got working examples of all sorts of things, though... /Gwyn On 01/05/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have to agree. What would be nice, if possible, is a small example code snippet in the Javadoc for each object. However, some may feel that code doesn't belong in there at all and should be in the wiki instead. Personally, I like example code too but small examples don't always fully illustrate some conceptsthat's there the wiki comes in. On 5/1/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Due to the lack of time most of us have here, we need to make choices. > I think the WIKI is great for getting the contributions from the > community itself, though the core devs - especially Gwyn - regularly > update it too. But it's really great to see more people are helping > out and writing items on the WIKI. > > I try to focus on examples personally. Everyone has a different way of > learning; I find examples always really useful, and it has the > additional advantage of functioning as proof-of-concept/ test code a > lot of times. > > Just my 2c, > > Eelco > > > On 5/1/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's very useful, however, it's also lacking quite a bit of > > information. The Wiki and the Javadoc doesn't get you as far as you'd > > hope, as a newbie. > > > > I use the Wiki, search the mailing list, and then post when I run out > > of options for info. > > > > Anyhow, everything is improving daily...including the wiki. > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Vincent Jenks schrieb: > > > > Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without > > > > this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, > > > > to be perfectly honest. > > > > > > "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have > > > better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become > > > damn useful!" > > > > > > > > > Timo > > > > > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Rivka Shisman schrieb: > > > >> > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) > > > >> > > > >> Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk > > > >> > > > >> There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: > > > >> http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide > > > >> > > > >> Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot > > > >> of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Timo > > > >> > > > >> --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
Yeah, especially the component reference should be helpfull. We all put a lot of effort in that! :) Eelco On 5/1/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that often gets overlooked is the wicket-examples module/project, which is either available as a download (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=119783&package_id=138752) or live at http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/, although the live is based on the last major release, rather than the 1.2 at the moment. It's got working examples of all sorts of things, though... /Gwyn On 01/05/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to agree. What would be nice, if possible, is a small example > code snippet in the Javadoc for each object. However, some may feel > that code doesn't belong in there at all and should be in the wiki > instead. > > Personally, I like example code too but small examples don't always > fully illustrate some conceptsthat's there the wiki comes in. > > On 5/1/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Due to the lack of time most of us have here, we need to make choices. > > I think the WIKI is great for getting the contributions from the > > community itself, though the core devs - especially Gwyn - regularly > > update it too. But it's really great to see more people are helping > > out and writing items on the WIKI. > > > > I try to focus on examples personally. Everyone has a different way of > > learning; I find examples always really useful, and it has the > > additional advantage of functioning as proof-of-concept/ test code a > > lot of times. > > > > Just my 2c, > > > > Eelco > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's very useful, however, it's also lacking quite a bit of > > > information. The Wiki and the Javadoc doesn't get you as far as you'd > > > hope, as a newbie. > > > > > > I use the Wiki, search the mailing list, and then post when I run out > > > of options for info. > > > > > > Anyhow, everything is improving daily...including the wiki. > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Vincent Jenks schrieb: > > > > > Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without > > > > > this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, > > > > > to be perfectly honest. > > > > > > > > "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have > > > > better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become > > > > damn useful!" > > > > > > > > > > > > Timo > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> Rivka Shisman schrieb: > > > > >> > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) > > > > >> > > > > >> Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk > > > > >> > > > > >> There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: > > > > >> http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide > > > > >> > > > > >> Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot > > > > >> of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Timo > > > > >> > > > > >> --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
Vincent Jenks schrieb: It's very useful, however, it's also lacking quite a bit of information. The Wiki and the Javadoc doesn't get you as far as you'd hope, as a newbie. That's bad. I think that Javadocs are perfect as a reference. In combination with various tutorials to get started, that's all I need to get things done. It should be the same with Wicket. The Javadocs are quite good, but maybe the tutorials aren't good enough. I can't speak for the wicket committers, but in my opinion users should be encouraged to write down as much as possible in the wiki, even if the quality is not perfect. Other people can (and will, in my experience) improve it and remove redundant or false information. Timo I use the Wiki, search the mailing list, and then post when I run out of options for info. Anyhow, everything is improving daily...including the wiki. On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vincent Jenks schrieb: > Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without > this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, > to be perfectly honest. "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become damn useful!" Timo > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Rivka Shisman schrieb: >> > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) >> >> Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk >> >> There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: >> http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide >> >> Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot >> of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library >> >> >> Timo >> >> >> --- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job >> easier >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache >> Geronimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >> ___ >> Wicket-user mailing list >> Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user >> > > > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 > ___ > Wicket-user mailing list > Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user > --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
Eelco Hillenius schrieb: Yeah, especially the component reference should be helpfull. We all put a lot of effort in that! :) Yes, I always look into the example project first to see how a component should be used. It's very helpful. Replacing these examples with tutorials in the wiki would be a lot of work, especially keeping them up to date. But they would certainly get more attention and it would be a lot easier to refer and link to them from other articles. Timo On 5/1/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that often gets overlooked is the wicket-examples module/project, which is either available as a download (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=119783&package_id=138752) or live at http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/, although the live is based on the last major release, rather than the 1.2 at the moment. It's got working examples of all sorts of things, though... /Gwyn On 01/05/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to agree. What would be nice, if possible, is a small example > code snippet in the Javadoc for each object. However, some may feel > that code doesn't belong in there at all and should be in the wiki > instead. > > Personally, I like example code too but small examples don't always > fully illustrate some conceptsthat's there the wiki comes in. > > On 5/1/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Due to the lack of time most of us have here, we need to make choices. > > I think the WIKI is great for getting the contributions from the > > community itself, though the core devs - especially Gwyn - regularly > > update it too. But it's really great to see more people are helping > > out and writing items on the WIKI. > > > > I try to focus on examples personally. Everyone has a different way of > > learning; I find examples always really useful, and it has the > > additional advantage of functioning as proof-of-concept/ test code a > > lot of times. > > > > Just my 2c, > > > > Eelco > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's very useful, however, it's also lacking quite a bit of > > > information. The Wiki and the Javadoc doesn't get you as far as you'd > > > hope, as a newbie. > > > > > > I use the Wiki, search the mailing list, and then post when I run out > > > of options for info. > > > > > > Anyhow, everything is improving daily...including the wiki. > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Vincent Jenks schrieb: > > > > > Yes, the developers are *insanely* helpful and patient. ;) Without > > > > > this list I'm not sure I would have been able to use Wicket for long, > > > > > to be perfectly honest. > > > > > > > > "Try the Wiki!" wasn't ment as "Try the Wiki because the devs have > > > > better things to do", it was ment as "Try the Wiki because it's become > > > > damn useful!" > > > > > > > > > > > > Timo > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Timo Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> Rivka Shisman schrieb: > > > > >> > A good book with examples and recipes is quite necessary :-) > > > > >> > > > > >> Try the Wiki! http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk > > > > >> > > > > >> There is nice guide for beginners that should get you started: > > > > >> http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide > > > > >> > > > > >> Then there is the reference library with information and howtos on a lot > > > > >> of topics: http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Reference_library > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Timo > > > > >> > > > > >> --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket book
I can't speak for the wicket committers, but in my opinion users should be encouraged to write down as much as possible in the wiki, even if the quality is not perfect. Other people can (and will, in my experience) improve it and remove redundant or false information. Exactly :) Eelco --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
