Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-20 Thread Scott Swank
> If you can, start testing early and use a profiler to find any
> bottlenecks. And if you find something, please report! :) For instance
> on http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-626
>
> Eelco

I definitely will.

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Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-20 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> That's all very helpful.  I just wanted to be sure that we aren't
> going to be pushing the envelope for Wicket's known performance
> signature.
>
> At this point my primary focus is on using models efficiently and
> determining whether we are otherwise structuring things in an
> inefficient manner.

If you can, start testing early and use a profiler to find any
bottlenecks. And if you find something, please report! :) For instance
on http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-626

Eelco

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Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-20 Thread Scott Swank
That's all very helpful.  I just wanted to be sure that we aren't
going to be pushing the envelope for Wicket's known performance
signature.

At this point my primary focus is on using models efficiently and
determining whether we are otherwise structuring things in an
inefficient manner.

Thank you again,
Scott

On 6/19/07, Peter Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/20/07, Jonathan Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > oh yeah, be sure you DO NOT test your wicket app's scalability with
> > wicket in development mode!
> >
> >
>
> Ah yes, I figured that out the hard way.  Big difference.
>
> Just thought I'd mention that if you need a realistic application built on
> Wicket + Spring + Hibernate to do some load testing, you can consider JTrac
> [ http://jtrac.info ].  There is a JMeter test in SVN and you can contact me
> if you need help setting up the application / JMeter test.  This should be
> really easy because by default, the app uses an embedded HSQLDB instance.
>
> In my profiling tests, the main bottleneck was Lucene writing to the file
> system for indexing stuff.  Hibernate comes second.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter.
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Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-19 Thread Peter Thomas

On 6/20/07, Jonathan Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




oh yeah, be sure you DO NOT test your wicket app's scalability with
wicket in development mode!



Ah yes, I figured that out the hard way.  Big difference.

Just thought I'd mention that if you need a realistic application built on
Wicket + Spring + Hibernate to do some load testing, you can consider JTrac
[ http://jtrac.info ].  There is a JMeter test in SVN and you can contact me
if you need help setting up the application / JMeter test.  This should be
really easy because by default, the app uses an embedded HSQLDB instance.

In my profiling tests, the main bottleneck was Lucene writing to the file
system for indexing stuff.  Hibernate comes second.

Thanks,

Peter.
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Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-19 Thread Jonathan Locke


oh yeah, be sure you DO NOT test your wicket app's scalability with
wicket in development mode!

wicket does a ton of really inefficient things in development mode.
just for example, every single component you construct on every page
will have a complete stack trace of the caller that constructed 
the component attached as metadata. needless to say, that is not
cheap (either in time or memory)!


Scott Swank wrote:
> 
> I have a quick question about server load, in particular I want to
> determine what sort of volume existing applications support.
> 
> We spread our load across 5 JBoss servers and need to support 200
> requests/second (40/second per server).  Are other Wicket applications
> handling this volume?
> 
> Thank you,
> Scott
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Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-19 Thread Jonathan Locke


with decent specs on your web nodes you can generally
expect to get better performance than that... unless
you're limited by non-wicket back-end bottlenecks like 
db access.


Scott Swank wrote:
> 
> I have a quick question about server load, in particular I want to
> determine what sort of volume existing applications support.
> 
> We spread our load across 5 JBoss servers and need to support 200
> requests/second (40/second per server).  Are other Wicket applications
> handling this volume?
> 
> Thank you,
> Scott
> 
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Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-19 Thread Igor Vaynberg

download wicket-threadtest and run it. i believe matej mentioned that he got
about 160 requests/second on his macbook pro.

-igor


On 6/19/07, Scott Swank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have a quick question about server load, in particular I want to
determine what sort of volume existing applications support.

We spread our load across 5 JBoss servers and need to support 200
requests/second (40/second per server).  Are other Wicket applications
handling this volume?

Thank you,
Scott

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Re: [Wicket-user] how busy a site is wicket known to support?

2007-06-19 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 6/19/07, Scott Swank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a quick question about server load, in particular I want to
> determine what sort of volume existing applications support.
>
> We spread our load across 5 JBoss servers and need to support 200
> requests/second (40/second per server).  Are other Wicket applications
> handling this volume?

That should be a piece of cake for Wicket I would say (depending on
your servers, what you do with your database, etc, etc). What kind of
figures are you getting when you test yourself?

The load testing we've been doing for the project I'm working on so
far has mainly been focussed on tracking bottlenecks, which always
turned out to have to do with Hibernate or the way we used Hibernate.
So, at this stage I wouldn't be able to provide your with any numbers
I'm afraid.

Eelco

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