[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-11-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34531

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||aklap...@wikimedia.org,
   ||nischay...@gmail.com
  Component|Site requests   |UploadWizard
Product|Wikimedia   |MediaWiki extensions

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|INVALID |

--- Comment #13 from Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de 2012-08-15 20:02:13 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
Huh? Please see in which categories this bug is...  Reopened. 
Anyway, do what you like Wikimedia - I do not care anymore.

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org 2012-08-15 
20:04:45 UTC ---
Oh, I'm sorry, that was a mistake. I ran through a bunch of bugs yesterday and
assumed this was still in UW.

OK, someone should revisit this again at some point. Saibo, you could make some
noise about it in the various communication media we use, that might be helpful
:)

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34531

Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|patch, patch-need-review|
 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 CC||benap...@gmail.com,
   ||wikimedia.b...@snowolf.eu
  Component|UploadWizard|Site configuration
 Resolution||INVALID
Product|MediaWiki extensions|Wikimedia

--- Comment #12 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org 2012-08-14 
17:31:37 UTC ---
Revisiting:

I'm sure there's some reason that PD in the US was chosen. I don't know what
it is. It's possible that a separate bug to remove it as a default would be
useful to someone. However, there's one thing I'd like to confirm: This is in
fact a site config question, since any license can be used in the software,
given sufficient configuration.

If you experience difficulty with the software's capacity for supporting this
license, please send it back to the UW component. If you simply have trouble
convincing the site admins to change the list of licenses, or want a different
configuration default, that's not a bug in the software.

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-06-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de 2012-06-13 23:02:46 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #10)
 Patch, for a different bug but still applicable here:
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9341

May be applicable somehow (did not dig into it) - however, using pd-old tags
via the custom field is possible since long.  The issue is that it is not
offered.  PD in the US is offered.  Seems someone from the US programmed that
part. ;-)

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org 2012-06-11 
18:42:11 UTC ---
Patch, for a different bug but still applicable here:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9341

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34531

Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||patch, patch-need-review

--- Comment #9 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org 2012-05-29 
21:53:46 UTC ---
Hi!

I'd like to come back and revisit this problem. First, there is an option to
include a Copyright Tag in your file upload, under This file is not my own
work  Another reason not mentioned above, so this isn't technically a valid
bug.

Furthermore, while PD-old appears to be a popular choice by the Public Domain
people, CC-BY-SA-3.0 has nearly 3 million files. CC-BY-3.0 has 600K, too. The
other versions of those licenses have still more.

While it makes sense to have the copyright tags available (and indeed, I just
patched UW to allow them for your own work), it's a matter of configuration and
administrative decision to make one choice easy and certain other ones slightly
more difficult. The UW developers don't really have any say as to what licenses
are the defaults.

I'll keep this around if someone else wants to comment, but it seems like a
resolved problem to me

Maybe try filing a bug under Wikimedia  Site configuration, if you're adamant
that the Commons admins should include pd-old-70 in the default license
choices. Let them know that the relevant config file (UploadWizard.config.php)
needs to have 'pd-old-70' added to the 'licenses' array, with the relevant
options, and then add the same to the 'licensesThirdPart' array under
'licensesGroups'. All of those should be straightforward. They'll also need to
add an i18n message for the license explanation, at least.

Those of you on the CC list, sorry for the long email!

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34531

Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|High|Low

--- Comment #8 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2012-05-28 
17:56:49 UTC ---
Lowering priority on high priority bugs that have a low severity

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de 2012-05-16 11:54:23 UTC ---
Currently the only option for PD works in UW is to add {{PD-US}}. Those files
would be categorized to here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:PD_US
(197895 files)  Over there
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_domain_due_to_copyright_expiration
are all the others. Most striking the general PD old block (946480 files).
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Author_died_more_than_70_years_ago_public_domain_images
those are the PD-old-70 files (55333 files).

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org 2012-05-16 
16:23:07 UTC ---
Point taken; I'll look into this very soon. Thanks for the help.

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WORKSFORME  |

--- Comment #4 from Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de 2012-05-15 10:00:17 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 I think this is why the copyright tag option exists, so you can add in 
 licenses
 that are on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_tags but not
 necessarily included in UW's default list. Try using {{PD-old-70}} in the
 second-to-last entry on the list, if you're on Commons. Anywhere else, I'm not
 sure it will work, but as long as your wiki's list of copyright tags has
 PD-old-70, it will.

PD-old-70 is no uncommon tag. It is as common (or even more) than the PD in
the US tags. You do not solve bugs by simply closing them without a
solution...

Add an option to enter the date of death of the author and insert
{{PD-old-auto|$the_entered_date}}. That would be best.

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|i18n|

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org 2012-05-15 
15:50:38 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
 PD-old-70 is no uncommon tag. It is as common (or even more) than the PD in
 the US tags. You do not solve bugs by simply closing them without a
 solution...
 
 Add an option to enter the date of death of the author and insert
 {{PD-old-auto|$the_entered_date}}. That would be best.

Point taken, sorry I jumped to a conclusion--would you mind finding to some
usage stats so we can get a better look at this? Maybe it could reveal some
other copyright tags that are worth including in UW by default.

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||mtrac...@member.fsf.org
 Resolution||WORKSFORME

--- Comment #3 from Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org 2012-05-14 
22:47:45 UTC ---
I think this is why the copyright tag option exists, so you can add in licenses
that are on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_tags but not
necessarily included in UW's default list. Try using {{PD-old-70}} in the
second-to-last entry on the list, if you're on Commons. Anywhere else, I'm not
sure it will work, but as long as your wiki's list of copyright tags has
PD-old-70, it will.

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-02-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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   Keywords||i18n

--- Comment #1 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net 2012-02-20 20:15:46 
UTC ---
Presumably this actually belongs under WikimediaMessages? Or does the license
appear for use elsewhere?

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-02-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |High
 CC||m...@everybody.org

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[Bug 34531] no choice for PD-old-70

2012-02-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Saibo saibotr...@arcor.de 2012-02-21 03:05:43 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #1)
 Presumably this actually belongs under WikimediaMessages? Or does the license
 appear for use elsewhere?

I don't know where it belongs - but since we are more or less intentionally
blocked from editing the code it goes to bugzilla. What do you mean with
elsewhere? Yes, it is in the old upload form. I do not know if UploadWizard
had this option at some time in the past - strange that I did not notice it in
case that was like this since ever.

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