Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Imre Samu]

>Easy, my user interface is English in all of them.

thanks,
- settings the "Global preferences" solved my problem. ( it was not set in
my case )

Imre








Gerard Meijssen  ezt írta (időpont: 2019. aug.
8., Cs, 17:19):

> Hoi,
> Easy, my user interface is English in all of them.
> Thanks,
>   GerardN
>
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 16:39, Imre Samu  wrote:
>
>> *> Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt
>> have to click the link to see the Q  number
>>
>> +1
>> And sometimes extreme hard to find the wikidata link,
>>
>> in my case:
>> - if you don't know the letters of different languages, and you want
>> cleaning the duplicated wikidata_id-s
>>
>> Quiz -  try to find the Wikidata id ( Link )  as fast as you can:
>> - https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B3%DA%AF%D8%AF
>> - https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%9E%E6%A0%BC%E5%BE%B7
>> -
>> https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%8B%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%81%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%94
>>
>> Regards,
>> Imre
>>
>> Magnus Sälgö  ezt írta (időpont: 2019. aug. 8., Cs,
>> 13:49):
>>
>>> *Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt have
>>> to click the link to see the Q  number
>>>
>>> *Motivation:* more and more institution start use the Wikidata Qnumber
>>> and as we today display VIAF numbers, LCCN, GND numbers etc. for authority
>>> data I think we should make it easier to see that this WIkipedia article
>>> has a specific Q number
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Magnus Sälgö
>>> Stockholm, Sweden
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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Denny Vrandečić]

Thank you for the message, Lea, this seems like a good step.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:19 AM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Easy, my user interface is English in all of them.
> Thanks,
>   GerardN
>
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 16:39, Imre Samu  wrote:
>
>> *> Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt
>> have to click the link to see the Q  number
>>
>> +1
>> And sometimes extreme hard to find the wikidata link,
>>
>> in my case:
>> - if you don't know the letters of different languages, and you want
>> cleaning the duplicated wikidata_id-s
>>
>> Quiz -  try to find the Wikidata id ( Link )  as fast as you can:
>> - https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B3%DA%AF%D8%AF
>> - https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%9E%E6%A0%BC%E5%BE%B7
>> -
>> https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%8B%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%81%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%94
>>
>> Regards,
>> Imre
>>
>> Magnus Sälgö  ezt írta (időpont: 2019. aug. 8., Cs,
>> 13:49):
>>
>>> *Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt have
>>> to click the link to see the Q  number
>>>
>>> *Motivation:* more and more institution start use the Wikidata Qnumber
>>> and as we today display VIAF numbers, LCCN, GND numbers etc. for authority
>>> data I think we should make it easier to see that this WIkipedia article
>>> has a specific Q number
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Magnus Sälgö
>>> Stockholm, Sweden
>>> ___
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>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Easy, my user interface is English in all of them.
Thanks,
  GerardN

On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 16:39, Imre Samu  wrote:

> *> Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt have
> to click the link to see the Q  number
>
> +1
> And sometimes extreme hard to find the wikidata link,
>
> in my case:
> - if you don't know the letters of different languages, and you want
> cleaning the duplicated wikidata_id-s
>
> Quiz -  try to find the Wikidata id ( Link )  as fast as you can:
> - https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B3%DA%AF%D8%AF
> - https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%9E%E6%A0%BC%E5%BE%B7
> -
> https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%8B%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%81%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%94
>
> Regards,
> Imre
>
> Magnus Sälgö  ezt írta (időpont: 2019. aug. 8., Cs,
> 13:49):
>
>> *Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt have
>> to click the link to see the Q  number
>>
>> *Motivation:* more and more institution start use the Wikidata Qnumber
>> and as we today display VIAF numbers, LCCN, GND numbers etc. for authority
>> data I think we should make it easier to see that this WIkipedia article
>> has a specific Q number
>>
>> Regards
>> Magnus Sälgö
>> Stockholm, Sweden
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Imre Samu]

*> Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt have
to click the link to see the Q  number

+1
And sometimes extreme hard to find the wikidata link,

in my case:
- if you don't know the letters of different languages, and you want
cleaning the duplicated wikidata_id-s

Quiz -  try to find the Wikidata id ( Link )  as fast as you can:
- https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B3%DA%AF%D8%AF
- https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%9E%E6%A0%BC%E5%BE%B7
-
https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%8B%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%81%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%94

Regards,
Imre

Magnus Sälgö  ezt írta (időpont: 2019. aug. 8., Cs, 13:49):

> *Suggestion* display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt have
> to click the link to see the Q  number
>
> *Motivation:* more and more institution start use the Wikidata Qnumber
> and as we today display VIAF numbers, LCCN, GND numbers etc. for authority
> data I think we should make it easier to see that this WIkipedia article
> has a specific Q number
>
> Regards
> Magnus Sälgö
> Stockholm, Sweden
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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Magnus Sälgö]

Suggestion display the Q number in the link i.e. the user doesnt have to click 
the link to see the Q  number

Motivation: more and more institution start use the Wikidata Qnumber and as we 
today display VIAF numbers, LCCN, GND numbers etc. for authority data I think 
we should make it easier to see that this WIkipedia article has a specific Q 
number

Regards
Magnus Sälgö
Stockholm, Sweden
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Re: [Wikidata] unsubscribing

[Ilario valdelli]

Like any mailman based mailing list, this is quite simple:

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

use the "Change your settings or unsubscribe" section.

Kind regards

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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Amir E. Aharoni]

‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 8 באוג׳ 2019 ב-13:17 מאת ‪Federico Leva (Nemo)‬‏ <‪
nemow...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬

> Nice! The "tools" section of the sidebar is an unrelated mess to avoid
> (ah, from the task it looks like 2014 me agrees).
>
> The overall crowdedness of the sidebar has only got worse in the last
> few years, so there's still more to do in the future to make sure it's
> not just a cemetery of unused links.
>

Hear, hear.

In fact, since Wikidata is quite special and universal, the link to it
should probably have some kind of a special location. But moving it to
other projects is a good first step in that direction.
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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Thomas Douillard]

Comparing to something very similar, the user interface of structured
metadatas associated to a file in commons, it seems to be far less visible
and accessible. Considering the Wikidata datas are possibly used in the
article, Wikidata is not « any » other project.

However it’s true that we put links to the datas in the infoboxes
themselves and the « edit links » link in the interwiki section so this
might not be a real issue.

Le jeu. 8 août 2019 à 11:47, Léa Lacroix  a
écrit :

> Hello all,
>
> Currently and since the Wikimedia projects pages and Wikidata items have
> been connected, the link "Wikidata item" appears on the menu column of the
> Wikimedia wikis, in the section "Tools".
>
> However, many editors from various projects told us that it would make
> more sense to have the link in the "In other projects" section, since
> Wikidata is one of the Wikimedia projects and the Wikidata item link
> doesn’t really belong to the list of special pages.
>
> This is why we are going to change the position of the link, on August
> 22nd for all Wikipedias and August 21st for all the other projects. After
> this date, *you will find the "Wikidata item" link in the "In other
> projects" section* of all Wikimedia projects.
>
> In some cases, for example on help and meta pages, the section may contain
> two links to Wikidata, for example on en:Help:Contents
>  where there will be the
> "Wikidata" link (linking to d:Help:Contents
> ) and the "Wikidata item"
> link (linking to d:Q914807 ).
>
> If you want to know more about the previous discussions or mention a bug
> or an issue, please add a comment to the related Phabricator task
> .
> Cheers,
> --
> Léa Lacroix
> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
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> 10963 Berlin
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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Nice! The "tools" section of the sidebar is an unrelated mess to avoid 
(ah, from the task it looks like 2014 me agrees).


The overall crowdedness of the sidebar has only got worse in the last 
few years, so there's still more to do in the future to make sure it's 
not just a cemetery of unused links.


Federico

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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Sad, there is a huge difference between all the other projects and
Wikidata. It defines the link with all these other projects and the
interwiki links. It will make it less easy to address the issues.
Thanks,
 Gerard

On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 11:47, Léa Lacroix  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Currently and since the Wikimedia projects pages and Wikidata items have
> been connected, the link "Wikidata item" appears on the menu column of the
> Wikimedia wikis, in the section "Tools".
>
> However, many editors from various projects told us that it would make
> more sense to have the link in the "In other projects" section, since
> Wikidata is one of the Wikimedia projects and the Wikidata item link
> doesn’t really belong to the list of special pages.
>
> This is why we are going to change the position of the link, on August
> 22nd for all Wikipedias and August 21st for all the other projects. After
> this date, *you will find the "Wikidata item" link in the "In other
> projects" section* of all Wikimedia projects.
>
> In some cases, for example on help and meta pages, the section may contain
> two links to Wikidata, for example on en:Help:Contents
>  where there will be the
> "Wikidata" link (linking to d:Help:Contents
> ) and the "Wikidata item"
> link (linking to d:Q914807 ).
>
> If you want to know more about the previous discussions or mention a bug
> or an issue, please add a comment to the related Phabricator task
> .
> Cheers,
> --
> Léa Lacroix
> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
> 10963 Berlin
> www.wikimedia.de
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
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Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Amir E. Aharoni]

Makes quite a lot of sense. Thank you!


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‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 8 באוג׳ 2019 ב-12:48 מאת ‪Léa Lacroix‬‏ <‪
lea.lacr...@wikimedia.de‬‏>:‬

> Hello all,
>
> Currently and since the Wikimedia projects pages and Wikidata items have
> been connected, the link "Wikidata item" appears on the menu column of the
> Wikimedia wikis, in the section "Tools".
>
> However, many editors from various projects told us that it would make
> more sense to have the link in the "In other projects" section, since
> Wikidata is one of the Wikimedia projects and the Wikidata item link
> doesn’t really belong to the list of special pages.
>
> This is why we are going to change the position of the link, on August
> 22nd for all Wikipedias and August 21st for all the other projects. After
> this date, *you will find the "Wikidata item" link in the "In other
> projects" section* of all Wikimedia projects.
>
> In some cases, for example on help and meta pages, the section may contain
> two links to Wikidata, for example on en:Help:Contents
>  where there will be the
> "Wikidata" link (linking to d:Help:Contents
> ) and the "Wikidata item"
> link (linking to d:Q914807 ).
>
> If you want to know more about the previous discussions or mention a bug
> or an issue, please add a comment to the related Phabricator task
> .
> Cheers,
> --
> Léa Lacroix
> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
> 10963 Berlin
> www.wikimedia.de
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
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[Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

[Léa Lacroix]

Hello all,

Currently and since the Wikimedia projects pages and Wikidata items have
been connected, the link "Wikidata item" appears on the menu column of the
Wikimedia wikis, in the section "Tools".

However, many editors from various projects told us that it would make more
sense to have the link in the "In other projects" section, since Wikidata
is one of the Wikimedia projects and the Wikidata item link doesn’t really
belong to the list of special pages.

This is why we are going to change the position of the link, on August 22nd
for all Wikipedias and August 21st for all the other projects. After this
date, *you will find the "Wikidata item" link in the "In other projects"
section* of all Wikimedia projects.

In some cases, for example on help and meta pages, the section may contain
two links to Wikidata, for example on en:Help:Contents
 where there will be the
"Wikidata" link (linking to d:Help:Contents
) and the "Wikidata item" link
(linking to d:Q914807 ).

If you want to know more about the previous discussions or mention a bug or
an issue, please add a comment to the related Phabricator task
.
Cheers,
-- 
Léa Lacroix
Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata

Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
10963 Berlin
www.wikimedia.de

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