[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić 
After reading both threads, my understanding is that Dr Lemaire does not
want to have the second last name attached to her identity.

The problem is not, given my reading, that she wants everything deleted. It
is fine if she does. But she certainly does not want the other last name in
any combination to appear with her name.

I acted accordingly and removed the other last name. As can be seen in Dr
Lemaire's papers, she has consistently used the name "Marie-Claude Lemaire"
and there is no reason not to respect that request.

What I didn't look into is the situation about the award and whether she is
a nuclear physicist or a particle physicist. Since there is no other person
in Wikidata with the name "Marie-Claude Lemaire", a simple physicist is
sufficient too.

Please everyone, remember to be kind, in particular when a person in
visible distress is reaching out to the community. I am not going to list
the instances of unkindness in our response to Dr Lemaire's plea, but I
think they are easy to find. It is easy the case for a person who is not
part of our community to misuse terminology, or not to clearly express
herself. It is our job to be extra kind in these cases, and try our best to
help.

I hope that the page now is in a state Dr Lemaire is content with.

I want to extend her an apology, although I am not sure she will read this
message.

Best regards,
Denny Vrandečić



On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 1:41 PM Vi to  wrote:

> This mailing list is public, so I suggest everybody to do not forget that
> public mailing lists shouldn't be used to deal with sensitive matters.
>
> Vito
>
> Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 22:09 Marie-Claude Lemaire <
> mclemai...@free.fr> ha scritto:
>
>> No I do not want it to be restored. I fight all my carrier to be only
>> Marie-Claude Lemaire. Now I am retired since 18 years at it very surprising
>> that after 18 years of retirement Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire reappears. I
>> am followed by a Physician for my psychological problems. I do not want to
>> be obliged to increase the number of pills I am obliged to swallow. I have
>> been hospitalized several time for this  stress .
>>
>> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 21:31, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :
>> >
>> > If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better
>> > off if the page is kept, with her preferred name.
>> >
>> > That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and
>> > update their records.
>> >
>> > If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the
>> name
>> > she doesn't like presumably will *never* be updated over on Google.
>> >
>> > Therefore Yaroslav I suggest you restore the page.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> >James
>> >
>> > If this is indeed the case this could be a good reason to restore the
>> page at least temporarily. Why do not we wait for a couple of days and see
>> what happens. (Again, any administrator may restore the page but this
>> likely will have consequences - not from my side).
>> >
>> > Best
>> > Yaroslav
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Vi to 
This mailing list is public, so I suggest everybody to do not forget that
public mailing lists shouldn't be used to deal with sensitive matters.

Vito

Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 22:09 Marie-Claude Lemaire <
mclemai...@free.fr> ha scritto:

> No I do not want it to be restored. I fight all my carrier to be only
> Marie-Claude Lemaire. Now I am retired since 18 years at it very surprising
> that after 18 years of retirement Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire reappears. I
> am followed by a Physician for my psychological problems. I do not want to
> be obliged to increase the number of pills I am obliged to swallow. I have
> been hospitalized several time for this  stress .
>
> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 21:31, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :
> >
> > If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better
> > off if the page is kept, with her preferred name.
> >
> > That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and
> > update their records.
> >
> > If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the name
> > she doesn't like presumably will *never* be updated over on Google.
> >
> > Therefore Yaroslav I suggest you restore the page.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >James
> >
> > If this is indeed the case this could be a good reason to restore the
> page at least temporarily. Why do not we wait for a couple of days and see
> what happens. (Again, any administrator may restore the page but this
> likely will have consequences - not from my side).
> >
> > Best
> > Yaroslav
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Marie-Claude Lemaire 
No I do not want it to be restored. I fight all my carrier to be only 
Marie-Claude Lemaire. Now I am retired since 18 years at it very surprising 
that after 18 years of retirement Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire reappears. I am 
followed by a Physician for my psychological problems. I do not want to be 
obliged to increase the number of pills I am obliged to swallow. I have been 
hospitalized several time for this  stress .

> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 21:31, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :
> 
> If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better 
> off if the page is kept, with her preferred name.
> 
> That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and 
> update their records.
> 
> If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the name 
> she doesn't like presumably will *never* be updated over on Google.
> 
> Therefore Yaroslav I suggest you restore the page.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>James
> 
> If this is indeed the case this could be a good reason to restore the page at 
> least temporarily. Why do not we wait for a couple of days and see what 
> happens. (Again, any administrator may restore the page but this likely will 
> have consequences - not from my side).
> 
> Best
> Yaroslav
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter 
If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better
off if the page is kept, with her preferred name.

That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and
update their records.

If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the name
she doesn't like presumably will *never* be updated over on Google.

Therefore Yaroslav I suggest you restore the page.

Best regards,

   James

If this is indeed the case this could be a good reason to restore the page
at least temporarily. Why do not we wait for a couple of days and see what
happens. (Again, any administrator may restore the page but this likely
will have consequences - not from my side).

Best
Yaroslav
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Marie-Claude Lemaire 
Thank you.

> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 20:27, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :
> 
> Good, I deleted the page as lacking notability. I wish you happy life without 
> stress.
> 
> Best
> Yaroslav
> 
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 8:25 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire  > wrote:
> I want to live normally without stress. Deleting the page will be good for my 
> mind for the future. As I already said it makes me sick.
> Best
> Marie-Claude
> 
>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 20:09, Yaroslav Blanter > > a écrit :
>> 
>> Do you actually realize that even if the page is deleted the information is 
>> still stored in Google until the Google robot gets to it? Deleting the page 
>> will not help your cause even for a second.
>> 
>> Best 
>> Yaroslav
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire > > wrote:
>> This fight make me sick! Please delete the wikidata page
>> 
>>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 19:28, Thomas Douillard >> > a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the 
>>> information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple 
>>> users just as you and not insiders there is not much possibility to reach 
>>> them and order them to speed things up. As they index the whole web it can 
>>> take some time I guess, there is a massive quantity of data to reach up. I 
>>> guess they also prioritize places with a lot of views to visit more 
>>> frequently, your Wikidata page is probably not visited or updated very much 
>>> compared to much more visited websites, so it’s not up in their automated 
>>> pile of work.
>>> 
>>> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:43, Marie-Claude Lemaire >> > a écrit :
>>> I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue 
>>> Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 
>>>  if you know how to do it. 
>>> 
 Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard >>> > a écrit :
 
 Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an 
 open project anyone can contribute to, and do their best. 
 
 Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with 
 one of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your 
 datas on this page to reference you as author of the reference. 
 
 Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender 
 biais on awards, for example see 
 https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 
  for such a study 
 using Wikidata data.
 
 Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire >>> > a écrit :
 No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes
 
 > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] 
 > mailto:martinellil...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
 > 
 > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
 > mailto:mclemai...@free.fr>> ha scritto:
 >> 
 >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in 
 >> particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire 
 >> https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606 
 >> . I do not want that 
 >> Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
 >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is 
 >> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that 
 >> Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
 >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear 
 >> in it.
 > 
 > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
 > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
 > information.
 > 
 > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
 > Google for a correction of the data.
 > 
 > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
 > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
 > 
 > Cheers,
 > 
 > L.
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter 
This is harassment. I am not comfortable with receiving such mails from the
mailing list.

Best
Yaroslav

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 9:07 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 19:27, Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:
> >
> > I deleted the page as lacking notability.
>
> You acted out of process, contrary to policy and in excess of your
> authority.
>
> You have also stated that you will not reverse your actions, even if
> community consensus is against them.  For shame.
>
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 19:27, Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:
>
> I deleted the page as lacking notability.

You acted out of process, contrary to policy and in excess of your authority.

You have also stated that you will not reverse your actions, even if
community consensus is against them.  For shame.

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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Ghislain ATEMEZING 
Hi James, all
Maybe the author is convinced that all star eyed with the wrong labeling of her 
name in the Wikidata URI.
Is it possible to know if before the creation of the page in Wikidata, there 
were know confusion in the Google results? If yes, then maybe that’s why she 
wants to delete the page. 
Do we have a way to see such evolution to be sure that the reason is not only 
with the Wikidata page?

Regarding your last statement, does that mean the Google indexing will 
never/ever consider at all the absence of the page after some time?

Best, 
Ghislain 

Sent from a mobile device, please excuse any brevity or typing errors


> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 20:42, James Heald  a écrit :
> 
> If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better off 
> if the page is kept, with her preferred name.
> 
> That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and update 
> their records.
> 
> If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the name she 
> doesn't like presumably will *never* be updated over on Google.
> 
> Therefore Yaroslav I suggest you restore the page.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>  James.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28/07/2023 19:27, Yaroslav Blanter wrote:
>> Good, I deleted the page as lacking notability. I wish you happy life 
>> without stress.
>> Best
>> Yaroslav
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread James Heald 
If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better 
off if the page is kept, with her preferred name.


That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and 
update their records.


If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the name 
she doesn't like presumably will *never* be updated over on Google.


Therefore Yaroslav I suggest you restore the page.

Best regards,

  James.



On 28/07/2023 19:27, Yaroslav Blanter wrote:
Good, I deleted the page as lacking notability. I wish you happy life 
without stress.


Best
Yaroslav


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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter 
Good, I deleted the page as lacking notability. I wish you happy life
without stress.

Best
Yaroslav

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 8:25 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire 
wrote:

> I want to live normally without stress. Deleting the page will be good for
> my mind for the future. As I already said it makes me sick.
> Best
> Marie-Claude
>
> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 20:09, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :
>
> Do you actually realize that even if the page is deleted the information
> is still stored in Google until the Google robot gets to it? Deleting the
> page will not help your cause even for a second.
>
> Best
> Yaroslav
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire 
> wrote:
>
>> This fight make me sick! Please delete the wikidata page
>>
>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 19:28, Thomas Douillard 
>> a écrit :
>>
>> Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the
>> information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple
>> users just as you and not insiders there is not much possibility to reach
>> them and order them to speed things up. As they index the whole web it can
>> take some time I guess, there is a massive quantity of data to reach up. I
>> guess they also prioritize places with a lot of views to visit more
>> frequently, your Wikidata page is probably not visited or updated very much
>> compared to much more visited websites, so it’s not up in their automated
>> pile of work.
>>
>> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:43, Marie-Claude Lemaire 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue
>>> Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 if you know how
>>> to do it.
>>>
>>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an
>>> open project anyone can contribute to, and do their best.
>>>
>>> Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with
>>> one of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your
>>> datas on this page to reference you as author of the reference.
>>>
>>> Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender
>>> biais on awards, for example see
>>> https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 for such a
>>> study using Wikidata data.
>>>
>>> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 No I do not understand that people publish informations against my
 wishes

 > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] <
 martinellil...@gmail.com> a écrit :
 >
 > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
 >  ha scritto:
 >>
 >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in
 particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire
 https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do not want that
 Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
 >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is
 Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude
 Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
 >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to
 appear in it.
 >
 > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
 > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
 > information.
 >
 > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
 > Google for a correction of the data.
 >
 > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
 > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > L.
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Marie-Claude Lemaire 
I want to live normally without stress. Deleting the page will be good for my 
mind for the future. As I already said it makes me sick.
Best
Marie-Claude

> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 20:09, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :
> 
> Do you actually realize that even if the page is deleted the information is 
> still stored in Google until the Google robot gets to it? Deleting the page 
> will not help your cause even for a second.
> 
> Best 
> Yaroslav
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire  > wrote:
> This fight make me sick! Please delete the wikidata page
> 
>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 19:28, Thomas Douillard > > a écrit :
>> 
>> Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the 
>> information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple 
>> users just as you and not insiders there is not much possibility to reach 
>> them and order them to speed things up. As they index the whole web it can 
>> take some time I guess, there is a massive quantity of data to reach up. I 
>> guess they also prioritize places with a lot of views to visit more 
>> frequently, your Wikidata page is probably not visited or updated very much 
>> compared to much more visited websites, so it’s not up in their automated 
>> pile of work.
>> 
>> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:43, Marie-Claude Lemaire > > a écrit :
>> I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue 
>> Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 
>>  if you know how to do it. 
>> 
>>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard >> > a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an open 
>>> project anyone can contribute to, and do their best. 
>>> 
>>> Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with 
>>> one of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your 
>>> datas on this page to reference you as author of the reference. 
>>> 
>>> Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender 
>>> biais on awards, for example see 
>>> https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 
>>>  for such a study 
>>> using Wikidata data.
>>> 
>>> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire >> > a écrit :
>>> No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes
>>> 
>>> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] 
>>> > mailto:martinellil...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>> > 
>>> > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
>>> > mailto:mclemai...@free.fr>> ha scritto:
>>> >> 
>>> >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in 
>>> >> particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire 
>>> >> https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606 
>>> >> . I do not want that 
>>> >> Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
>>> >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is 
>>> >> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that 
>>> >> Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
>>> >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear 
>>> >> in it.
>>> > 
>>> > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
>>> > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
>>> > information.
>>> > 
>>> > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
>>> > Google for a correction of the data.
>>> > 
>>> > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
>>> > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
>>> > 
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > 
>>> > L.
>>> > ___
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>>> > 
>>> > Public archives at 
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Yaroslav Blanter 
Do you actually realize that even if the page is deleted the information is
still stored in Google until the Google robot gets to it? Deleting the page
will not help your cause even for a second.

Best
Yaroslav



On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire 
wrote:

> This fight make me sick! Please delete the wikidata page
>
> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 19:28, Thomas Douillard  a
> écrit :
>
> Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the
> information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple
> users just as you and not insiders there is not much possibility to reach
> them and order them to speed things up. As they index the whole web it can
> take some time I guess, there is a massive quantity of data to reach up. I
> guess they also prioritize places with a lot of views to visit more
> frequently, your Wikidata page is probably not visited or updated very much
> compared to much more visited websites, so it’s not up in their automated
> pile of work.
>
> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:43, Marie-Claude Lemaire 
> a écrit :
>
>> I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue
>> Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 if you know how
>> to do it.
>>
>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard 
>> a écrit :
>>
>> Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an
>> open project anyone can contribute to, and do their best.
>>
>> Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with
>> one of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your
>> datas on this page to reference you as author of the reference.
>>
>> Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender
>> biais on awards, for example see
>> https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 for such a study
>> using Wikidata data.
>>
>> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes
>>>
>>> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] <
>>> martinellil...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> >
>>> > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
>>> >  ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in
>>> particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire
>>> https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do not want that Marie-Claude
>>> Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
>>> >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is
>>> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude
>>> Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
>>> >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to
>>> appear in it.
>>> >
>>> > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
>>> > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
>>> > information.
>>> >
>>> > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
>>> > Google for a correction of the data.
>>> >
>>> > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
>>> > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > L.
>>> > ___
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Marie-Claude Lemaire 
This fight make me sick! Please delete the wikidata page

> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 19:28, Thomas Douillard  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the 
> information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple 
> users just as you and not insiders there is not much possibility to reach 
> them and order them to speed things up. As they index the whole web it can 
> take some time I guess, there is a massive quantity of data to reach up. I 
> guess they also prioritize places with a lot of views to visit more 
> frequently, your Wikidata page is probably not visited or updated very much 
> compared to much more visited websites, so it’s not up in their automated 
> pile of work.
> 
> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:43, Marie-Claude Lemaire  > a écrit :
> I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue 
> Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 
>  if you know how to do it. 
> 
>> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard > > a écrit :
>> 
>> Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an open 
>> project anyone can contribute to, and do their best. 
>> 
>> Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with one 
>> of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your datas 
>> on this page to reference you as author of the reference. 
>> 
>> Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender biais 
>> on awards, for example see 
>> https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 
>>  for such a study 
>> using Wikidata data.
>> 
>> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire > > a écrit :
>> No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes
>> 
>> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] 
>> > mailto:martinellil...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>> > 
>> > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
>> > mailto:mclemai...@free.fr>> ha scritto:
>> >> 
>> >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in 
>> >> particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire 
>> >> https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606 
>> >> . I do not want that Marie-Claude 
>> >> Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
>> >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is 
>> >> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude 
>> >> Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
>> >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear in 
>> >> it.
>> > 
>> > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
>> > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
>> > information.
>> > 
>> > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
>> > Google for a correction of the data.
>> > 
>> > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
>> > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
>> > 
>> > Cheers,
>> > 
>> > L.
>> > ___
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>> > 
>> > Public archives at 
>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org/message/2QVVPPU5VJT7R76CKKGAGXLOGM452CJR/
>> >  
>> > 
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Thomas Douillard 
Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the
information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple
users just as you and not insiders there is not much possibility to reach
them and order them to speed things up. As they index the whole web it can
take some time I guess, there is a massive quantity of data to reach up. I
guess they also prioritize places with a lot of views to visit more
frequently, your Wikidata page is probably not visited or updated very much
compared to much more visited websites, so it’s not up in their automated
pile of work.

Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:43, Marie-Claude Lemaire  a
écrit :

> I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue
> Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 if you know how to
> do it.
>
> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard  a
> écrit :
>
> Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an
> open project anyone can contribute to, and do their best.
>
> Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with
> one of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your
> datas on this page to reference you as author of the reference.
>
> Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender
> biais on awards, for example see
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 for such a study
> using Wikidata data.
>
> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire 
> a écrit :
>
>> No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes
>>
>> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] <
>> martinellil...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> >
>> > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
>> >  ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in
>> particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire
>> https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do not want that Marie-Claude
>> Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
>> >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is
>> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude
>> Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
>> >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear
>> in it.
>> >
>> > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
>> > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
>> > information.
>> >
>> > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
>> > Google for a correction of the data.
>> >
>> > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
>> > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > L.
>> > ___
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Marie-Claude Lemaire 
I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue 
Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 
 if you know how to do it. 

> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an open 
> project anyone can contribute to, and do their best. 
> 
> Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with one 
> of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your datas 
> on this page to reference you as author of the reference. 
> 
> Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender biais 
> on awards, for example see 
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 
>  for such a study 
> using Wikidata data.
> 
> Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire  > a écrit :
> No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes
> 
> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] 
> > mailto:martinellil...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > 
> > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
> > mailto:mclemai...@free.fr>> ha scritto:
> >> 
> >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in 
> >> particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire 
> >> https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606 
> >> . I do not want that Marie-Claude 
> >> Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
> >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is 
> >> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude 
> >> Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
> >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear in 
> >> it.
> > 
> > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
> > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
> > information.
> > 
> > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
> > Google for a correction of the data.
> > 
> > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
> > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > L.
> > ___
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Thomas Douillard 
Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an open
project anyone can contribute to, and do their best.

Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with
one of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your
datas on this page to reference you as author of the reference.

Datas about awards are typically used to build statistics about gender
biais on awards, for example see
https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3479986.3479992 for such a study
using Wikidata data.

Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 18:24, Marie-Claude Lemaire  a
écrit :

> No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes
>
> > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] <
> martinellil...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
> >  ha scritto:
> >>
> >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in
> particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire
> https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do not want that Marie-Claude
> Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
> >> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is
> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude
> Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
> >> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear
> in it.
> >
> > As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
> > fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
> > information.
> >
> > You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
> > Google for a correction of the data.
> >
> > Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
> > particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > L.
> > ___
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Marie-Claude Lemaire 
No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes

> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
>  ha scritto:
>> 
>> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in particle 
>> physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do 
>> not want that Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
>> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is 
>> Marie-Claude Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude 
>> Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome;
>> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear in it.
> 
> As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
> fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
> information.
> 
> You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
> Google for a correction of the data.
> 
> Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
> particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> L.
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Luca Martinelli [Sannita] 
Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire
 ha scritto:
>
> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in particle 
> physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do 
> not want that Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome.
> My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is Marie-Claude 
> Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire 
> disappears from Google Chrome;
> The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear in it.

As people have already explained, the problem on Wikidata has been
fixed. We have no control over Google or the way they show
information.

You can either wait until Google updates their own information, or ask
Google for a correction of the data.

Please, understand that we did all that we could have done in this
particular situation, and that all that goes beyond it we cannot do.

Cheers,

L.
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Marie-Claude Lemaire 
I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in particle 
physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do 
not want that Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome. 
My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is Marie-Claude 
Lemaire. I am a woman an definitively want that Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire 
disappears from Google Chrome;
The best way is to suppress wikidata as it against my wishes to appear in it.

> Le 28 juil. 2023 à 12:44, marie...@gmail.com a écrit :
> 
> I have checked and it looks like the wikidata item has now been updated to 
> reflect the name "Marie-Claude Lemaire".
> 
> However, it still appears in Google because Google has not re-indexed the 
> page yet. For this you just have to wait, as it's unknown how long it will 
> take and Google does not respond to user requests for re-indexing. Hopefully 
> it will not take long.
> 
> Cheers,
> Marielle
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Thomas Douillard 
A little off topic but I’m curious. I assumed that the datas were shown as
the structured data knowledge graph but it appears they are not and the
page is shown as first result by Google. I don’t think I have ever seen a
Wikidata first result from a Google request ! I don’t even recall that a
Wikidata item page result in a regular request. I assume there are few
links to Wikidata page on the web …

Does that happen often ? What links Wikidata page so that they are on the
top results sometimes ?

Le ven. 28 juil. 2023 à 12:44,  a écrit :

> I have checked and it looks like the wikidata item has now been updated to
> reflect the name "Marie-Claude Lemaire".
>
> However, it still appears in Google because Google has not re-indexed the
> page yet. For this you just have to wait, as it's unknown how long it will
> take and Google does not respond to user requests for re-indexing.
> Hopefully it will not take long.
>
> Cheers,
> Marielle
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[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread marielle 
I have checked and it looks like the wikidata item has now been updated to 
reflect the name "Marie-Claude Lemaire".

However, it still appears in Google because Google has not re-indexed the page 
yet. For this you just have to wait, as it's unknown how long it will take and 
Google does not respond to user requests for re-indexing. Hopefully it will not 
take long.

Cheers,
Marielle
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