[Wikidata-l] Number of Articles
Hi, I wonder where the article-ids come from i.e. todays milestone Q40... when I look at: http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json&siprop=statistics I see "pages":392866 at this moment. Where is that gap comming from? LB ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Number of Articles
Hi, The gap is due to entries being deleted midway, which the system will not replace when new items gets created. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Lukas Benedix wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder where the article-ids come from > > i.e. todays milestone Q40... > > when I look at: > > > http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json&siprop=statistics > > I see "pages":392866 at this moment. > > Where is that gap comming from? > > > LB > > > ___ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > -- Regards, Hydriz We've created the greatest collection of shared knowledge in history. Help protect Wikipedia. Donate now: http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Number of Articles
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Lukas Benedix wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder where the article-ids come from > > i.e. todays milestone Q40... > > when I look at: > > http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json&siprop=statistics > > I see "pages":392866 at this moment. > > Where is that gap comming from? Hey :) Please see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42362 Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] dbpedialite
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Nicholas Humfrey wrote: > Hello, > > This appeared on Twitter but I thought I would email as well and introduce > myself. I am the author of http://dbpedialite.org/, which I created as an > experiment, to try exposing linked data as RDF using the Wikipedia API. > > > The things I was trying to improve were: > > 1) Stability of identifiers - using the pageid in the URL instead of the > page title. This was a bit problem for us at the BBC - particularly when > doing off-line comparisons in our own databases. > > 2) Speed of updates - dbpedia can take many months to update. > > 3) Reliability - we have had a lot of problems with dbpedia being offline. > > The main thing that the BBC needs is the stable identifiers - so that we can > link to other systems both internal and external. We don't actually use the > data from dbpedia (at the moment). > > > As such Wikidata already provides all the functionality that we need! I > think it is just a matter of time until the topic coverage is good enough. > We are currently working on adding all of the UK Members of Parliament and > Constituencies to Wikidata - which is something that we hope to use in a > prototype. > > I plan to change dbpedialite to use Wikidata identifiers in URLs in the not > too distant future: > > http://dbpedialite.org/things/Q192 > > And then if/when wikidata.org supports RDF formats, I will probably turn it > off. Thanks for the update and the work you put into this, Nicholas. Let me know if you need any help from the Wikidata-side. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] next Wikidata office hours
Heya :) On 18 December Denny and I will do the next round of Wikidata office hours. Everyone with questions about Wikidata is welcome. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events#IRC_office_hours Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata deployment schedule
Heya folks :) We'll do another attempt at updating today. I hope this time everything goes smoothly. The database will be locked again for the time of the update. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] Suggestions
Hello all, Wikidata has grown rapidly the past weeks, a community of users is active now, and we are just in the beginning of Wikidata, but still already tremendous work already has been done with all the items with interwiki's added. We all have picked up Wikidata enthusiastic, and I think we all want to get further with it very much. The project fits the needs of the communities very much. My personal background is to translate and explain the technical stuff to users on wiki's, and return the feedback to the developers, as most users consider bugzilla and technical things far far far away. The weekly summary is great to have, but for more transparency it would be nice to have a time line, or otherwise a clear (expected) date when the next big change will be (like with the deployment of new MediaWiki versions). Reading the e-mails and reading on meta, I almost only see the technical changes which are coming, but for the communities on Wikidata and Wikipedia's it would be great to know when the next step in content adding will be possible. Also it would be nice to have a list of those things that will be possible in the future, but have no date yet to be implemented. The reason for this is double: * On local communities I notice a lot of stories, fables and myths of how Wikidata will be in future, but often with no ground. * Also there are a lot of things that would have potential on Wikidata. Yes sure, I can add it to Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team but already my last comment is archived somewhere and out of sight. I think it would be good to make clear which specific content additions will be possible in future. I think we should have a list which states what content will be in next deployment and what content will be later on. I read somewhere about Link_FA, Link_GA, but also IMDb, IBDB, VIAF, but also of course Commons. A lot others are too on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control Currently VIAF is in discussion and willing to be added on some wiki's, but with Wikidata it can be done much easier. Any plans for it? Romaine ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Suggestions
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Romaine Wiki wrote: > Hello all, > > Wikidata has grown rapidly the past weeks, a community of users is active > now, and we are just in the beginning of Wikidata, but still already > tremendous work already has been done with all the items with interwiki's > added. We all have picked up Wikidata enthusiastic, and I think we all want > to get further with it very much. The project fits the needs of the > communities very much. > > My personal background is to translate and explain the technical stuff to > users on wiki's, and return the feedback to the developers, as most users > consider bugzilla and technical things far far far away. > > The weekly summary is great to have, but for more transparency it would be > nice to have a time line, or otherwise a clear (expected) date when the next > big change will be (like with the deployment of new MediaWiki versions). > Reading the e-mails and reading on meta, I almost only see the technical > changes which are coming, but for the communities on Wikidata and Wikipedia's > it would be great to know when the next step in content adding will be > possible. There are simply no fixed dates for that. That's the reason no dates are published ;-) It's basically done when it is done. I am sorry we can't be more specific about that. There are things influencing schedules that are out of our hand. > Also it would be nice to have a list of those things that will be possible in > the future, but have no date yet to be implemented. The reason for this is > double: > * On local communities I notice a lot of stories, fables and myths of how > Wikidata will be in future, but often with no ground. Please name them and I am happy to give a definitive answer. > * Also there are a lot of things that would have potential on Wikidata. Yes > sure, I can add it to Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team but already my > last comment is archived somewhere and out of sight. Everything there is looked at and handled by me. Things we will implement are moved to bugzilla. Nothing is lost. > I think it would be good to make clear which specific content additions will > be possible in future. I think we should have a list which states what > content will be in next deployment and what content will be later on. I read > somewhere about Link_FA, Link_GA, but also IMDb, IBDB, VIAF, but also of > course Commons. A lot others are too on > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control Neither of those will be in the next deployment. It is pretty certain that all of them will be possible at some point. > Currently VIAF is in discussion and willing to be added on some wiki's, but > with Wikidata it can be done much easier. Any plans for it? Linking to a VIAF id? That will be possible. I can't tell you when. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Suggestions
Hello Romaine, On 05/12/12 16:48, Romaine Wiki wrote: The weekly summary is great to have, but for more transparency it would be nice to have a time line, or otherwise a clear (expected) date when the next big change will be (like with the deployment of new MediaWiki versions). Reading the e-mails and reading on meta, I almost only see the technical changes which are coming, but for the communities on Wikidata and Wikipedia's it would be great to know when the next step in content adding will be possible. Also it would be nice to have a list of those things that will be possible in the future, but have no date yet to be implemented. The reason for this is double: * On local communities I notice a lot of stories, fables and myths of how Wikidata will be in future, but often with no ground. * Also there are a lot of things that would have potential on Wikidata. Yes sure, I can add it to Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team but already my last comment is archived somewhere and out of sight. So what you want is a diffent view on things like http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint or http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates ? More a table where all features of the single status updates are listed in a table with red, yellow or green background? They should also be divided into Categories, that it's a little easier to follow the development by watching one single view. Something similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox#Release_history ? Sorry, this will maybe be possible with phase III, and we still do not have it ;-) But in the meantime we could create such a table on our own, maybe on [[meta:Wikidata/Development]] Marco ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata deployment schedule
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Heya folks :) > > We'll do another attempt at updating today. I hope this time > everything goes smoothly. The database will be locked again for the > time of the update. Heya folks :) wikidata.org has been updated with lots of bugfixes and a new Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel. You can find all changes at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/mw1.21-wmf5 We'll still have to do some minor clean-ups tomorrow. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata deployment schedule
Hi Lydia, Is the API changed now? My pywiki bot still does not work. -- Bináris ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata deployment schedule
Sorry, Bináris, I'm not Lydia, but I have the answer for this question: Yes, as Denny described in http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2012-December/001346.html Marco On 05/12/12 22:01, Bináris wrote: Hi Lydia, Is the API changed now? My pywiki bot still does not work. -- Bináris ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage
Hi all, I'm curious what folks here think about making some noise about the two most recent additions to the Wikimedia family around January or February. Wikivoyage is still finishing up the beta phase (image transfers, logo import etc.) this month, and Wikidata isn't live as a repository yet -- but we could set a target date that would work for both projects. What I'm imagining is an actual banner on Wikimedia projects announcing the launch of both Wikivoyage and Wikidata, pointing to a landing page explaining what these projects are, how to participate, etc. That page could be drafted on Meta. Then interested folks would visit the projects to learn more and get involved. Wikimedia projects obviously have an enormous reach and I think this could help create awareness and build community -- but it could also be an unwelcome influx in the early stages. This could be regulated by running a banner only for logged in users, or x% of readers. Thoughts? Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikivoyage-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage
I think that is an excellent idea. It would also build readership. So as long as we have the image issue dealt with I would be happy to see the banner go out to everyone. James Heilman On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm curious what folks here think about making some noise about the > two most recent additions to the Wikimedia family around January or > February. Wikivoyage is still finishing up the beta phase (image > transfers, logo import etc.) this month, and Wikidata isn't live as a > repository yet -- but we could set a target date that would work for > both projects. > > What I'm imagining is an actual banner on Wikimedia projects > announcing the launch of both Wikivoyage and Wikidata, pointing to a > landing page explaining what these projects are, how to participate, > etc. That page could be drafted on Meta. Then interested folks would > visit the projects to learn more and get involved. > > Wikimedia projects obviously have an enormous reach and I think this > could help create awareness and build community -- but it could also > be an unwelcome influx in the early stages. This could be regulated by > running a banner only for logged in users, or x% of readers. > > Thoughts? > > Erik > > -- > Erik Möller > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > ___ > Wikivoyage-l mailing list > wikivoyag...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l > -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage
Assuming that the most recent rough timeline I've got is still accurate, Wikidata will have deployed Phase II of its features by, at the latest, early January. I'd prefer that we wait at least a week or two after that for the project to re-stabilize before we make the big announcement, as I do not want to have people coming in right as we're working out the bugs from the Phase II deployment. That would mean, ballpark, that I'd be most comfortable with us doing this early February. That is in the timeline you gave. I would also like to stress the importance of the WMF communicating with these two mailing lists and giving us at least a 48 hour warning before the banners go live. I want to make sure that the local admins (and everyone else) knows that we're going to potentially get a large wave of new users. Call me a cynic, but considering how drama-free and smooth Wikidata has been, I've kinda been waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'm not saying that the people there now would be hostile to the people that might be joining after the announcement, but I am saying that having people on hand in case there is trouble is going to be important. Okay, so yes, I am truly a cynic of epic proportions. On a more positive note, it would also give me time to make sure that all of the project's help pages are cleaned up and that we have a nice centralized location that lists said pages where we can point the new people to. Thanks for the idea, Sven On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm curious what folks here think about making some noise about the > two most recent additions to the Wikimedia family around January or > February. Wikivoyage is still finishing up the beta phase (image > transfers, logo import etc.) this month, and Wikidata isn't live as a > repository yet -- but we could set a target date that would work for > both projects. > > What I'm imagining is an actual banner on Wikimedia projects > announcing the launch of both Wikivoyage and Wikidata, pointing to a > landing page explaining what these projects are, how to participate, > etc. That page could be drafted on Meta. Then interested folks would > visit the projects to learn more and get involved. > > Wikimedia projects obviously have an enormous reach and I think this > could help create awareness and build community -- but it could also > be an unwelcome influx in the early stages. This could be regulated by > running a banner only for logged in users, or x% of readers. > > Thoughts? > > Erik > > -- > Erik Möller > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > ___ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage
Hi Erik, On 06/12/12 00:03, Erik Moeller wrote: I'm curious what folks here think about making some noise about the two most recent additions to the Wikimedia family around January or February. Great Idea! Wikivoyage is still finishing up the beta phase (image transfers, logo import etc.) this month, and Wikidata isn't live as a repository yet -- but we could set a target date that would work for both projects. I do not know the state of WikiVoyage but congratulations to the team of Wikivoyage. Form Wikidata I do not think that this will make much sense. Most of the people working on Wikipedia know about Wikidata, but the pure "consumers" do not know about it. At the moment those would probably think, "Nice way to combine articles across different Wikipedias". But they do not see the real potential of Wikidata. Having those centralized interlanguage-links is really great but most people do not see the difference. What I'm imagining is an actual banner on Wikimedia projects announcing the launch of both Wikivoyage and Wikidata, pointing to a landing page explaining what these projects are, how to participate, etc. That page could be drafted on Meta. Then interested folks would visit the projects to learn more and get involved. This will be great for Wikivoyage, but not for Wikidata. There the folk's job is testing of the software not participating data. Wikimedia projects obviously have an enormous reach and I think this could help create awareness and build community -- but it could also be an unwelcome influx in the early stages. This could be regulated by running a banner only for logged in users, or x% of readers. I assume most of the logged in users already know about the two projects. So the wikivoyage banner could be shown to a percentage of pure consumers by January or February. For Wikidata I would suggest to do that a bit later, maybe April/May? Thoughts? All in all: Great idea – for Wikidata maybe a bit to early? BTW: I never came to the idea mentioning Wikivoyage and Wikidata in on sentense. ;-) Marco ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage
Hi, 2012/12/6 Erik Moeller : > I'm curious what folks here think about making some noise about the > two most recent additions to the Wikimedia family around January or > February. Wikivoyage is still finishing up the beta phase (image > transfers, logo import etc.) this month, and Wikidata isn't live as a > repository yet -- but we could set a target date that would work for > both projects. > > > > Thoughts? Great idea, but isn't it a bit premature for Wikidata? Right now we only have interwiki links (and an awesome community :) ), which I fear isn't enough for newcomers to understand how critical this new project is. Once phase 2 is live, however, this would make sense without any doubt. Best regards, -- Jérémie ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage
Hi Erik, Sorry, to all others, I just sent the e-mail before but somehow – I really do not know how that could happen – Erik was not included as I clicked on the "Send"-Button. Sorry about that. :-( Many thanks to Sven for this information. So I'll try it once again. On 06/12/12 00:03, Erik Moeller wrote: Hi all, I'm curious what folks here think about making some noise about the two most recent additions to the Wikimedia family around January or February. Great Idea! Wikivoyage is still finishing up the beta phase (image transfers, logo import etc.) this month, and Wikidata isn't live as a repository yet -- but we could set a target date that would work for both projects. I do not know the state of WikiVoyage but congratulations to the team of Wikivoyage. Form Wikidata I do not think that this will make much sense. Most of the people working on Wikipedia know about Wikidata, but the pure "consumers" do not know about it. At the moment those would probably think, "Nice way to combine articles across different Wikipedias". But they do not see the real potential of Wikidata. Having those centralized interlanguage-links is really great but most people do not see the difference. What I'm imagining is an actual banner on Wikimedia projects announcing the launch of both Wikivoyage and Wikidata, pointing to a landing page explaining what these projects are, how to participate, etc. That page could be drafted on Meta. Then interested folks would visit the projects to learn more and get involved. This will be great for Wikivoyage, but not for Wikidata. There the folk's job is testing of the software not participating data. Wikimedia projects obviously have an enormous reach and I think this could help create awareness and build community -- but it could also be an unwelcome influx in the early stages. This could be regulated by running a banner only for logged in users, or x% of readers. I assume most of the logged in users already know about the two projects. So the wikivoyage banner could be shown to a percentage of pure consumers by January or February. For Wikidata I would suggest to do that a bit later, maybe April/May? Thoughts? All in all: Great idea – for Wikidata maybe a bit to early? BTW: I never came to the idea mentioning Wikivoyage and Wikidata in on sentense. Marco ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
