[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-16 Thread kirby urner

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Jan Visser jvis...@learndev.org wrote:
 Wayne and Kirby (others?),

 I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It’s a
 different use of the technology than what’s normally being done. Papert’s
 work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those
 alternative uses. It’s therefore different also from the underlying
 philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives.


Greetings Jan --

OLPC is a fairly esoteric and futuristic project, is helping drive
down the cost of laptops by turning them into netbooks.  The XO-2 has
an even smaller form factor.

The XO comes pre-loaded with some educational materials, otherwise has
a rather ordinary Mozilla-based web browser.  This idea of one laptop
per child (1:1 ratio) is not the development model in many ecosystems,
and can't be presumed by every curriculum writer.

As someone who works around the Python subculture, I'm linked to OLPC
in the sense that the default user interface is implemented in the
Python language, as are many of the activities.  The machine also
knows FORTH.

I just upgraded one of the XOs the other night, getting some expert
assistance.  My other one is still running a rather ancient version of
the RedHat system.

I was in a long meeting with Alan Kay fairly recently in London,
courtesy of Mark Shuttleworth.  Guido van Rossum, the inventor of
Python, was also at this meeting.  We agreed that many educational
initiatives are orthogonal to OLPC meaning great if there's a 1:1
ratio, but we're prepared for other contingencies.



 I took a look at the freedom toaster. I’m not sure if I understood the
 concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or
 acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading
 it with whatever you want to load it with? I’m thinking of places where I
 worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids
 to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board;
 teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic
 sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional
 portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported
 with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to
 upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet
 access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That
 may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small
 device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a
 photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized
 screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger
 devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job.


The idea of a Freedom Toaster is its a filling station for static
media such as CDs and DVDs.  You may not have easy Internet access but
if you go to a freedom toaster you can legally burn all manner of
digital assets to sharable media.

I don't know to what extent said Toasters are themselves self
updating.  Juke boxes (music players) in some public places now phone
home for the current music, don't sport any disks locally.



 Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If
 reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and
 printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility.
 Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information.
 Surprisingly or not, cell phones—shared by many—are in those circumstances
 often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable
 hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing
 songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning
 resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances
 vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local
 environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological
 resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of
 the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local
 level.



 Thoughts?


Freedom Toasters could easily contain copyleft audio books etc., not
sure to what extent they already do as we don't have any of said
toasters in my neck of the woods (Pacific Northwest near 45th
parallel, Seattle's longitude), think we ought to, maybe by the next
Open Source Conference (OSCON 2010)?

We do have a lot of XOs around, plus billboards for G1G1 (the give
one get one campaign, where you pay for two, donate one to the
program).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3224155740/sizes/l/
(example poster from a previous run)

Kirby



 Jan



 --

 Jan Visser, Ph.D.

 President  Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute

 E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org

 Check out: http://www.learndev.org and 

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-15 Thread Edward Cherlin

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:40, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote:

 My impression is there's a huge amount of free content if (a) you have
 access to the Internet and (b) you have enough education to know how
 to read and study the materials, find your peer groups, organize a
 learning experience resulting in credentials and opportunities.

 Both (a) and (b) cannot be taken for granted.

Indeed. This is part of the Earth Treasury mission, which adds to the
One Laptop Per Child (hardware), Sugar Labs (software), and various
Free content projects, including Creative Commons and others. Part of
the aim is to network up to a billion children together in a
collaborative education enterprise, creating the conditions in which
they can create Free Software and Free content to suit their needs,
and breaking free of the current barriers to education, collaboration,
and sharing. It will take a while to make the scope of the plan clear,
and longer to make it all happen.

 Even with the copyright problem removed completely, we still have few
 safe environments for concerted study.  Many schools and libraries
 curtail access, as much out of necessity and a need to share scarce
 bandwidth as out of a lust for censorship, although in the case of
 schools, many do practice various kinds of filtering, some more
 insidious than others.

Bandwidth is rapidly becoming less scarce, even in Africa, which has
lagged farthest behind in the past. Multiple fiber optic cables are
being laid along both East and West coasts of Africa, and joined to
the landlocked countries of the continent, starting with Rwanda and
soon continuing with all of the others.

I and others at FLOSS Manuals wrote How to Bypass Internet Censorship,
with methods to access blocked and filtered content, and to evade
surveillance. http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/CircumventionTools/WebHome

 In many cultures, young people have the best access through Wifi
 Cafes, either over the shoulder (under tutelage), renting time on a
 shop machine, or lucky enough to have their own laptop.  Some cafes
 also rent time on larger screens where more meetings and collaboration
 might occur.

 The second most frequent access site is from work, where performance
 may be monitored, but where furthering one's education, including
 through social networking sites, is increasingly seen as job-relevant
 in some lines of work.  Studying accounting in a slow moving hair
 salon, waiting for customers, can't be all bad, especially if the
 bandwidth is being paid for regardless, true of many service provider
 contracts.

Another need is prepaid e-commerce cards to be sold in cybercafes, so
that students can buy books online, and for other purposes. This is
because credit cards issued by banks in Africa cannot be used online,
since the banks are not integrated into the global banking network. As
fiber optic connections become available, this will change, but there
remains a great need in the meantime.

 In sum, whereas I see a need for more copylefted and license-free
 materials, I think the more pointed shortages revolve not around
 content, but around access and a shortage of study time except in
 formal school settings, to which many are unable to afford access.

The essential lacks are electricity, bandwidth, microfinance, and Free
replacements for printed textbooks. These support each other, so that
all can be expanded together, at a profit overall for all concerned.

 The rise of co-working studios, sometimes in working partnerships with
 the Wifi Cafes, is probably suggestive of how the younger generation
 is self-organizing to overcome these insidious barriers to its future
 productivity.

 Once on-line, contributing to Wikis is a great way to start
 establishing a track record as a free content provider, building a
 portfolio.  People need to see what it is that you contribute.  This
 is what social networking is all about and the evidence suggests
 intelligent use of these skills aids in finding collaborators and
 staffing companies.  Musicians tend to use Myspace.  Management
 consultants use LinkedIn, Plaxo and so on.  More teachers are starting
 to use Wikieducator.  These are promising signs.

 Kirby


 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Minhaaj ur Rehman minh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am pretty sure when Bob Dylan said 'mountain', he didnt only refer
 to copyrighted material, he used it for all 'licensed' material be it
 creative commons or FSF licenses. Freedom is freedom, it doesn't come
 with CC-BY-SA. I would be interested to see how long that mountain
 stands.

 On 14 Nov, 00:38, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely.

 So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and
 reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a
 free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and
 society? Why are the 

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-15 Thread Jan Visser
Wayne and Kirby (others?),

I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It's a
different use of the technology than what's normally being done. Papert's
work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those
alternative uses. It's therefore different also from the underlying
philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives.

 

I took a look at the freedom toaster. I'm not sure if I understood the
concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or
acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading
it with whatever you want to load it with? I'm thinking of places where I
worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids
to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board;
teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic
sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional
portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported
with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to
upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet
access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That
may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small
device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a
photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized
screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger
devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job.

 

Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If
reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and
printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility.
Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information.
Surprisingly or not, cell phones-shared by many-are in those circumstances
often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable
hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing
songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning
resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances
vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local
environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological
resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of
the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local
level.

 

Thoughts?  

 

Jan

 

--

Jan Visser, Ph.D.

President  Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute

E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org 

Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev

Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/

 

 

  _  

From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Wayne Mackintosh
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:05 AM
To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the
free content?

 

Hi Kirby,

Wow -- its a small world :-). I'm a South African by birth and very familiar
with both the Freedom Toaster and Tuxlabs projects -- both inspirational
projects. We can learn a lot from these projects and find ways to
collaborate.

I've always maintained that real ICT innovation in education will come from
the developing world. Africa launched a continental information society
initiative back in the mid 1990s, long before other regional collectives.
Designing within constraints results in real innovation :-).

I too have my reservations about the XO project -- however, the strength of
the OLPC initiative lies in the projects foresight to think differently
about ICTs in education -- namely starting from a pedagogic foundation
rather than attempting to replicate existing PC technology. 

Off to take look at the CS Unplugged' curriculum -- thanks for the link.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/11/15 kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com


On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh
mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kirby,

 You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital
 content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world
 where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt,
 modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the
differentiating
 feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content.

 For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New
 Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector
 (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which
can
 be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation
 (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ
Ministry
 of Education funded TKI project
 (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples there
is
 no cost associated with viewing or making copies for 

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS

2009-11-15 Thread Jan Visser
After further reading I think I understand the concept better. But it's
still the problem that even when carrying CD's around to places like the
ones I described, the assumption is that you'll find some minimal
infrastructure and equipment there that allows you to play them. But I
agree, it solves at least a significant part of existing problems. Regarding
the other part, read my post below. And I'm interested in additional
thoughts from others.

 

Jan

 

 

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From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jan Visser
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:06 PM
To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the
free content?

 

Wayne and Kirby (others?),

I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It's a
different use of the technology than what's normally being done. Papert's
work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those
alternative uses. It's therefore different also from the underlying
philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives.

 

I took a look at the freedom toaster. I'm not sure if I understood the
concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or
acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading
it with whatever you want to load it with? I'm thinking of places where I
worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids
to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board;
teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic
sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional
portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported
with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to
upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet
access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That
may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small
device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a
photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized
screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger
devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job.

 

Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If
reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and
printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility.
Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information.
Surprisingly or not, cell phones-shared by many-are in those circumstances
often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable
hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing
songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning
resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances
vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local
environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological
resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of
the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local
level.

 

Thoughts?  

 

Jan

 

--

Jan Visser, Ph.D.

President  Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute

E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org 

Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev

Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/

 

 

  _  

From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieduca...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Wayne Mackintosh
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:05 AM
To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the
free content?

 

Hi Kirby,

Wow -- its a small world :-). I'm a South African by birth and very familiar
with both the Freedom Toaster and Tuxlabs projects -- both inspirational
projects. We can learn a lot from these projects and find ways to
collaborate.

I've always maintained that real ICT innovation in education will come from
the developing world. Africa launched a continental information society
initiative back in the mid 1990s, long before other regional collectives.
Designing within constraints results in real innovation :-).

I too have my reservations about the XO project -- however, the strength of
the OLPC initiative lies in the projects foresight to think differently
about ICTs in education -- namely starting from a pedagogic foundation
rather than attempting to replicate existing PC technology. 

Off to take look at the CS Unplugged' curriculum -- thanks for the link.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/11/15 kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com


On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh
mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kirby,

 You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital
 content. However, in reality I think 

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-15 Thread Edward Cherlin

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 03:05, Jan Visser jvis...@learndev.org wrote:
 Wayne and Kirby (others?),

 I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It’s a
 different use of the technology than what’s normally being done. Papert’s
 work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those
 alternative uses. It’s therefore different also from the underlying
 philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives.

Seymour Papert, Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Jerome Bruner, and many
others, not only from their roots 40 years ago, but from work that
they have continued to do ever since. (In Seymour Papert's case, up
until the brain damage from being run down by a motorcycle during an
education conference in Vietnam.)

How do you see the difference in philosophies?

 I took a look at the freedom toaster. I’m not sure if I understood the
 concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or
 acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading
 it with whatever you want to load it with? I’m thinking of places where I
 worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids
 to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board;
 teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic
 sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional
 portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported
 with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to
 upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet
 access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That
 may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small
 device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a
 photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized
 screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger
 devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job.

The OLPC XO is currently the best and least expensive book reader for
such environments, when you include its revolutionary screen
technology, ruggedness, extremely low power requirements, and other
such design elements.

 Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If
 reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and
 printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility.
 Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information.

Sugar Labs is working on multi-language text-to-speech conversion.

 Surprisingly or not, cell phones—shared by many—are in those circumstances
 often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable
 hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing
 songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning
 resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances
 vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local
 environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological
 resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of
 the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local
 level.

Particularly when coupled with renewable electricity, broadband
Internet, and microfinance.

 Thoughts?



 Jan



 --

 Jan Visser, Ph.D.

 President  Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute

 E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org

 Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev

 Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/
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Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
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[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS

2009-11-15 Thread valerie

Hi Jan

You have reminded us of the range of learners to be helped. Expanding
mobile phones capabilities bypass many of the problems that you
describe and we are seeing amazing progress there.

We can be working to immediately benefit learners in less challenging
situations. There is an enormous opportunity to work with learners who
do have some connectivity and access to online content, although
perhaps this is shared or limited by time or location. Providing
content and pedagogy with multiple access and delivery options expands
the population that can benefit.  But, we need to keep the millions of
learners in the tail in mind as we go forward. Thanks

..Valerie


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 ones I described, the assumption is that you'll find some minimal
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[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS

2009-11-15 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Jan, in addition to carrying CD's around, there is a significant social
impact associated with the freedom toaster concept.

The freedom toaster alerts society to the fact that they do not need to
purchase a non-free software license in order to have a fully functional
computer system. It informs society about freedom of choice, especially that
there is no need to be tempted into using illegal copies of software for
lack of money. The freedom toaster is about emancipation with the added
benefit of saving considerable costs in bandwidth.

When you combine this with projects like Tuxlabs which put old computer
hardware to good use, widening access to ICTs in ways which were not
possible before -- that's a significant innovation. Moreover, with projects
like Wikipedia, it is possible also to provide remote rural schools running
open source thin client labs, access to a local version of the largest
encyclopaedia developed in the history of human kind.

There are innovative projects like MobileEd which harness the potential of
Mobile telophony combined with the amazing world of wikis.

This is qualitatively different from what has gone before all possible
because of a commitment to the essential freedoms :-)

Cheers
Wayne

2009/11/16 Jan Visser jvis...@learndev.org

  After further reading I think I understand the concept better. But it’s
 still the problem that even when carrying CD’s around to places like the
 ones I described, the assumption is that you’ll find some minimal
 infrastructure and equipment there that allows you to play them. But I
 agree, it solves at least a significant part of existing problems. Regarding
 the other part, read my post below. And I’m interested in additional
 thoughts from others.



 Jan




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 *From:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 wikieduca...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jan Visser
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:06 PM
 *To:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all
 the free content?



 Wayne and Kirby (others?),

 I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It’s a
 different use of the technology than what’s normally being done. Papert’s
 work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those
 alternative uses. It’s therefore different also from the underlying
 philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives.



 I took a look at the freedom toaster. I’m not sure if I understood the
 concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or
 acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading
 it with whatever you want to load it with? I’m thinking of places where I
 worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids
 to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board;
 teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic
 sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional
 portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported
 with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to
 upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet
 access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That
 may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small
 device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a
 photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized
 screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger
 devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job.



 Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If
 reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and
 printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility.
 Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information.
 Surprisingly or not, cell phones—shared by many—are in those circumstances
 often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable
 hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing
 songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning
 resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances
 vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local
 environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological
 resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of
 the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local
 level.



 Thoughts?



 Jan



 --

 Jan Visser, Ph.D.

 President  Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute

 E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org

 Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev

 Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/




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 *From:* 

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread Patricia

This is really impressive, Wayne. WikiEducator has grown into the most
active open source online platform there is globally and it has been a
privilege to have been part of this growing community and project from
the get go. It has been an exciting journey to this point and I am
looking forward to much more to come.

Cheers,
Patricia

On Nov 13, 3:38 pm, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely.

 So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and
 reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a
 free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and
 society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it
 comes to education?

 To paraphrase Bob Dylan:

  How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist
 Before it's washed to the sea?
 Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist
 Before they're allowed to be free?
 Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads],
 Pretending [we] just don't see?
 The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
 The answer is blowin' in the wind.

 The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a
 no-brainer.  Getting back to Dylan's refrain  The answer, my friend, is
 blowin' in the wind has been described as impenetrably ambiguous: either
 the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as
 intangible as the wind 
 (see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind)

 I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture
 movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national
 curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ).

    - Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa).
    - During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site
    with a full-time staff of two people.
    - WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more than
    110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share
    knowledge freely.
    - WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% of
    the number of the registered users compared to WV)
    - WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical
    constraints of the Commonwealth.

 WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an
 amazing story and you are making it happen!

 However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5 years
 away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in achieving our
 goal of free digital resources in support of all national curricula.

    - WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in
    becoming active contributors to our common goal
    - WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly easier
    to use)
    - WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any
    warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki
    skills
    - WE need to connect educators across international boundaries and
    - WE need to have fun while contributing to the social good of education.
    - What else do WE need to do?

 Is the answer so obvious or as intangible as the wind?

 Let's continue making OER futures happen for the world -- the wiki way.

 Cheers
 Wayne

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 Director,
 International Centre for Open Education,
 Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
 Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
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[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread eliza papajanis
Hi, there is one point to be added to the list;it`s to protect the victims (
teachers or educators) from the bad guys stiil conjacted to the old ways and
the archaic view of the education; some of them they do it for money and/or
security and they think there is not a better way. They should be encouraged
to think differently and it can not be done with the old board of
authorities hidden in the rooms of all sorts of administration bureau.You
know what I am speaking about - it is world wilde spret malady.My question
is: HOW IS IT TO BE DONE.?

2009/11/14 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com

 Hi Everyone,

 A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely.


 So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and
 reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a
 free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and
 society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it
 comes to education?

 To paraphrase Bob Dylan:

  How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist
 Before it's washed to the sea?
 Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist
 Before they're allowed to be free?
 Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads],
 Pretending [we] just don't see?
 The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
 The answer is blowin' in the wind.

 The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a
 no-brainer.  Getting back to Dylan's refrain  The answer, my friend, is
 blowin' in the wind has been described as impenetrably ambiguous: either
 the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as
 intangible as the wind (see:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind)

 I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture
 movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national
 curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ).


- Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa).
- During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site
with a full-time staff of two people.
- WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more than
110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share
knowledge freely.
- WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6%
of the number of the registered users compared to WV)
- WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical
constraints of the Commonwealth.

 WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an
 amazing story and you are making it happen!

 However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5
 years away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in
 achieving our goal of free digital resources in support of all national
 curricula.

- WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in
becoming active contributors to our common goal
- WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly
easier to use)
- WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any
warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki
skills
- WE need to connect educators across international boundaries and
- WE need to have fun while contributing to the social good of
education.
- What else do WE need to do?


 Is the answer so obvious or as intangible as the wind?

 Let's continue making OER futures happen for the world -- the wiki way.

 Cheers
 Wayne


 --
 Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
 Director,
 International Centre for Open Education,
 Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
 Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
 Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
 Mobile +64 21 2436 380
 Skype: WGMNZ1
 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg

 


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[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Eliza,

That's a good point. Self-organising, peer production communities are very
different from the traditional model, hence the fear of organisations to try
it out.

Administrators and decision-makers who don't have experience of the
effectiveness and agility of self-organising systems find it hard to take
decisions committing time and resources to this kind of approach. In some
respects, its like learning to swim -- you have got to get your feet wet.

One way that has worked well for us is the pilot project approach.  We
encourage and support organisations to test the waters with a small but
focused project. Once members of the project team see and experience the
benefits of the self-organising approach -- they're sold.  It takes time --
but authentic experience is a powerful approach in supporting organisations
with incremental transformation.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/11/15 eliza papajanis eliza.papaja...@gmail.com

 Hi, there is one point to be added to the list;it`s to protect the victims
 ( teachers or educators) from the bad guys stiil conjacted to the old ways
 and the archaic view of the education; some of them they do it for money
 and/or security and they think there is not a better way. They should be
 encouraged to think differently and it can not be done with the old board of
 authorities hidden in the rooms of all sorts of administration bureau.You
 know what I am speaking about - it is world wilde spret malady.My question
 is: HOW IS IT TO BE DONE.?

 2009/11/14 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com

 Hi Everyone,

 A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge
 freely.

 So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify
 and reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a
 free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and
 society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it
 comes to education?

 To paraphrase Bob Dylan:

  How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist
 Before it's washed to the sea?
 Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist
 Before they're allowed to be free?
 Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads],
 Pretending [we] just don't see?
 The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
 The answer is blowin' in the wind.

 The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a
 no-brainer.  Getting back to Dylan's refrain  The answer, my friend, is
 blowin' in the wind has been described as impenetrably ambiguous: either
 the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as
 intangible as the wind (see:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind)

 I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture
 movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national
 curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ).


- Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa).
- During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site
with a full-time staff of two people.
- WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more
than 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share
knowledge freely.
- WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6%
of the number of the registered users compared to WV)
- WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical
constraints of the Commonwealth.

 WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is an
 amazing story and you are making it happen!

 However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5
 years away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in
 achieving our goal of free digital resources in support of all national
 curricula.

- WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in
becoming active contributors to our common goal
- WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly
easier to use)
- WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any
warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki
skills
- WE need to connect educators across international boundaries and
- WE need to have fun while contributing to the social good of
education.
- What else do WE need to do?


 Is the answer so obvious or as intangible as the wind?

 Let's continue making OER futures happen for the world -- the wiki way.

 Cheers
 Wayne


 --
 Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
 Director,
 International Centre for Open Education,
 Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
 Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
 Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
 Mobile +64 21 2436 380
 Skype: WGMNZ1
 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg




 



-- 
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Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Kirby,

You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital
content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world
where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt,
modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the differentiating
feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content.

For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New
Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector (
http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which can
be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation (
http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ Ministry
of Education funded TKI project (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php)
--- In these examples there is no cost associated with viewing or making
copies for educational purposes. However, the most important freedom for
educators -- namely the right to adapt, modify and redistribute the content
to better meet the needs of the learners we serve are restricted :-(.

Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet access in
a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to basic
access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan Africa
of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system will
not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher. There
is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough
teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn.

How can OER help these children?  This is why we need to think creatively
about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who
will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of
creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning with
national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the traditional
models of educational provision.  This is a tough challenge -- but with
concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is part
of the solution.

That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these
challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER fits
into the bigger picture.

Cheers
Wayne




2009/11/15 kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com


 My impression is there's a huge amount of free content if (a) you have
 access to the Internet and (b) you have enough education to know how
 to read and study the materials, find your peer groups, organize a
 learning experience resulting in credentials and opportunities.

 Both (a) and (b) cannot be taken for granted.

 Even with the copyright problem removed completely, we still have few
 safe environments for concerted study.  Many schools and libraries
 curtail access, as much out of necessity and a need to share scarce
 bandwidth as out of a lust for censorship, although in the case of
 schools, many do practice various kinds of filtering, some more
 insidious than others.

 In many cultures, young people have the best access through Wifi
 Cafes, either over the shoulder (under tutelage), renting time on a
 shop machine, or lucky enough to have their own laptop.  Some cafes
 also rent time on larger screens where more meetings and collaboration
 might occur.

 The second most frequent access site is from work, where performance
 may be monitored, but where furthering one's education, including
 through social networking sites, is increasingly seen as job-relevant
 in some lines of work.  Studying accounting in a slow moving hair
 salon, waiting for customers, can't be all bad, especially if the
 bandwidth is being paid for regardless, true of many service provider
 contracts.

 In sum, whereas I see a need for more copylefted and license-free
 materials, I think the more pointed shortages revolve not around
 content, but around access and a shortage of study time except in
 formal school settings, to which many are unable to afford access.

 The rise of co-working studios, sometimes in working partnerships with
 the Wifi Cafes, is probably suggestive of how the younger generation
 is self-organizing to overcome these insidious barriers to its future
 productivity.

 Once on-line, contributing to Wikis is a great way to start
 establishing a track record as a free content provider, building a
 portfolio.  People need to see what it is that you contribute.  This
 is what social networking is all about and the evidence suggests
 intelligent use of these skills aids in finding collaborators and
 staffing companies.  Musicians tend to use Myspace.  Management
 consultants use LinkedIn, Plaxo and so on.  More teachers are starting
 to use Wikieducator.  These are promising signs.

 Kirby


 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Minhaaj ur Rehman minh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I am pretty sure when Bob Dylan said 'mountain', he didnt only refer
  to copyrighted material, he used it for all 'licensed' 

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread kirby urner

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh
mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Kirby,

 You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital
 content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world
 where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt,
 modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the differentiating
 feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content.

 For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New
 Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector
 (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which can
 be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation
 (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ Ministry
 of Education funded TKI project
 (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples there is
 no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational purposes.
 However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to
 adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of the
 learners we serve are restricted :-(.


We're applaud the 'CS Unplugged' curriculum, made a link to it from my
notes on one of our digital math meetings (a group of professional
educators, lobbying for State of Oregon to make 2010 a launch year for
some of our pilots):

http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html  (CS
Unplugged linked from 2nd paragraph FYI).

 Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet access in
 a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to basic
 access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan Africa
 of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system will
 not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher. There
 is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough
 teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn.

 How can OER help these children?  This is why we need to think creatively
 about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who
 will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of
 creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning with
 national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the traditional
 models of educational provision.  This is a tough challenge -- but with
 concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is part
 of the solution.


OER might want to consider Freedom Toaster as another way of
distributing content, perhaps a subset of WikiEducator site
specifically designed for off-line readers.

http://www.freedomtoaster.org/

In the South Africa ecosystem, there's this notion of TuxLabs (free
access to computer labs), though not all of them are branded this way.

One Laptop Per Child remains a relatively exotic approach, coupled
with its G1G1 marketing campaign (I have two XOs myself, which I loan
out to curious students -- there's a Python connection).

In addition to printed textbooks, sometimes blank notebooks and
writing implements are in even scarcer supply.

 That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these
 challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER fits
 into the bigger picture.

 Cheers
 Wayne


I'm glad this list is available for these sorts of discussions,
looking forward to more.

I'm pleased to discover OER is such a committed and creative organization.

Kirby

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[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Kirby,

Wow -- CS unplugged is very smart!!!

Any possibility of getting the course materials released under a license
that meets the requirements of the free cultural works definition?  A few
essential freedoms missing in the current license being used :-(. ND  NC
clauses restricting the potential here IMHO.

Next time I travel to ChristChurch -- I'm more than happy to have a chat
with the Computer Science department to see if we can get release of the
materials under a free content license.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/11/15 kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com


 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh
 mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Kirby,
 
  You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital
  content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world
  where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt,
  modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the
 differentiating
  feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content.
 
  For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New
  Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector
  (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material which
 can
  be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation
  (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ
 Ministry
  of Education funded TKI project
  (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples
 there is
  no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational
 purposes.
  However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to
  adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of
 the
  learners we serve are restricted :-(.
 

 We're applaud the 'CS Unplugged' curriculum, made a link to it from my
 notes on one of our digital math meetings (a group of professional
 educators, lobbying for State of Oregon to make 2010 a launch year for
 some of our pilots):

 http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html  (CS
 Unplugged linked from 2nd paragraph FYI).

  Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet access
 in
  a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to
 basic
  access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan
 Africa
  of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system
 will
  not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher.
 There
  is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough
  teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn.
 
  How can OER help these children?  This is why we need to think creatively
  about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who
  will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of
  creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning
 with
  national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the
 traditional
  models of educational provision.  This is a tough challenge -- but with
  concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is
 part
  of the solution.
 

 OER might want to consider Freedom Toaster as another way of
 distributing content, perhaps a subset of WikiEducator site
 specifically designed for off-line readers.

 http://www.freedomtoaster.org/

 In the South Africa ecosystem, there's this notion of TuxLabs (free
 access to computer labs), though not all of them are branded this way.

 One Laptop Per Child remains a relatively exotic approach, coupled
 with its G1G1 marketing campaign (I have two XOs myself, which I loan
 out to curious students -- there's a Python connection).

 In addition to printed textbooks, sometimes blank notebooks and
 writing implements are in even scarcer supply.

  That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these
  challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER fits
  into the bigger picture.
 
  Cheers
  Wayne
 

 I'm glad this list is available for these sorts of discussions,
 looking forward to more.

 I'm pleased to discover OER is such a committed and creative organization.

 Kirby

 



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Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
Mobile +64 21 2436 380
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[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread Randy Fisher
Hi Wayne  Kirby,

Please keep us informed of the developments here - this could be a great
leadership statement, and a challenge to other CS departments 'round the
world to follow...

- Randy

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Wayne Mackintosh 
mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kirby,

 Wow -- its a small world :-). I'm a South African by birth and very
 familiar with both the Freedom Toaster and Tuxlabs projects -- both
 inspirational projects. We can learn a lot from these projects and find ways
 to collaborate.

 I've always maintained that real ICT innovation in education will come from
 the developing world. Africa launched a continental information society
 initiative back in the mid 1990s, long before other regional collectives.
 Designing within constraints results in real innovation :-).

 I too have my reservations about the XO project -- however, the strength of
 the OLPC initiative lies in the projects foresight to think differently
 about ICTs in education -- namely starting from a pedagogic foundation
 rather than attempting to replicate existing PC technology.

 Off to take look at the CS Unplugged' curriculum -- thanks for the link.

 Cheers
 Wayne

 2009/11/15 kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com


 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Wayne Mackintosh
 mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Kirby,
 
  You make a good point about the potential abundance of access to digital
  content. However, in reality I think we are a long way off from a world
  where we have access to digital content PLUS the permissions to adapt,
  modify and redistribute without restriction. Herein lies the
 differentiating
  feature of OER -- namely a permission culture to remix content.
 
  For example, we're in the early phases of establishing a national New
  Zealand OER collaboration for the school sector
  (http://wikieducator.org/OERNZ). There is an abundance of material
 which can
  be accessed -- for example, the Learning Federation
  (http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/copyright.html) or the NZ
 Ministry
  of Education funded TKI project
  (http://www.tki.org.nz/e/tki/about/terms.php) --- In these examples
 there is
  no cost associated with viewing or making copies for educational
 purposes.
  However, the most important freedom for educators -- namely the right to
  adapt, modify and redistribute the content to better meet the needs of
 the
  learners we serve are restricted :-(.
 

 We're applaud the 'CS Unplugged' curriculum, made a link to it from my
 notes on one of our digital math meetings (a group of professional
 educators, lobbying for State of Oregon to make 2010 a launch year for
 some of our pilots):

 http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html  (CS
 Unplugged linked from 2nd paragraph FYI).

  Good points with reference to the challenges and costs of internet
 access in
  a wide variety of situations. A more perplexing challenge relates to
 basic
  access to a school. For example, 76% of the children in sub-Saharan
 Africa
  of the age for the last three years of the secondary schooling system
 will
  not have the privilege of attending school or contact with a teacher.
 There
  is simply not enough money to build enough classrooms or train enough
  teachers to satisfy the needs of the youth who are eager to learn.
 
  How can OER help these children?  This is why we need to think
 creatively
  about technologies that can generate printed text books for children who
  will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of
  creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning
 with
  national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the
 traditional
  models of educational provision.  This is a tough challenge -- but with
  concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is
 part
  of the solution.
 

 OER might want to consider Freedom Toaster as another way of
 distributing content, perhaps a subset of WikiEducator site
 specifically designed for off-line readers.

 http://www.freedomtoaster.org/

 In the South Africa ecosystem, there's this notion of TuxLabs (free
 access to computer labs), though not all of them are branded this way.

 One Laptop Per Child remains a relatively exotic approach, coupled
 with its G1G1 marketing campaign (I have two XOs myself, which I loan
 out to curious students -- there's a Python connection).

 In addition to printed textbooks, sometimes blank notebooks and
 writing implements are in even scarcer supply.

  That said, you allude and provide valuable insights into solving these
  challenges in that we need to think about the eco-system and how OER
 fits
  into the bigger picture.
 
  Cheers
  Wayne
 

 I'm glad this list is available for these sorts of discussions,
 looking forward to more.

 I'm pleased to discover OER is such a committed and creative organization.

 Kirby





 --
 Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
 Director,
 International Centre for Open Education,
 Otago 

[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread Wayne Mackintosh
Hi Valerie,

With thanks to dedicated WikiEducators like yourself (and hundreds of
others) -- WE, as a community, is now in a position to scale up our original
vision of developing digital OERs in support of all national curricula.

One advantage of open self organising systems is the ability to solve
problems in parallel. For example, we don't need to wait to solve all the
distribution challenges before we can start collaborating on high-demand
content areas. (That said -- we've made significant progress in tackling on
the wiki == pdf challenge, and pretty soon teachers around the world will
be able to download WikiEducator collections in open document format for
editing locally offline -- saving on expensive connectivity costs :-) )

In terms of getting a pilot started, we could for example:


   - Make contact with Vincent Kizza who is taking leadership in
   establishing an national OER portal for Uganda (See:
   http://www.wikieducator.org/OERUG ) -- Ask Vincent about high priority
   content areas.
   - Reuse ideas and concepts from the the OERNZ project (
   http://www.wikieducator.org/New_Zealand_Schools_OER_Portal ) which is
   starting to think about different types of OER that may be useful in the
   school sector (http://tinyurl.com/yld88n2)
   - Take Declan up on his offer for us to remix, collaborate and add value
   to the amazing set of lesson materials in Biology for Elementary Schools
   developed by his students (http://tinyurl.com/yg6wqut )

I'm sure there are many other ideas we could consider, but this would be a
good starting point for a proof-of-concept?

Other ideas?

Cheers
Wayne



2009/11/15 valerie vtay...@gmail.com


 Thanks Wayne

 Many of us would like to work on exactly this sort of project.

 What do we know about the content needs for this? Can we layout a
 foundation so we can collaborate on content creation and assembly, in
 parallel with resolving distribution issues? Is there some subject and
 grade level that could be used as a pilot program?

 It would be nice to find a specific high-demand content area to work
 through as a proof-of-concept.

 ..Valerie


 On Nov 14, 2:17 pm, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 How can OER help these children?  This is why we need to think
 creatively
 about technologies that can generate printed text books for children
 who
 will not have the privilege of attending school. WE need to think of
 creative solutions where we can combine the best of informal learning
 with
 national accreditation systems -- in other word rethinking the
 traditional
 models of educational provision.  This is a tough challenge -- but
 with
 concerted effort I think we can make a difference. I sense that OER is
 part
 of the solution.
 



-- 
Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg

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[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?

2009-11-14 Thread NELLIE DEUTSCH
Wayne, Eliza and others,
Here is what we are doing on WikiEducator to facilitate the process of
introducing educators to the use of technology one step at a time:
http://wikieducator.org/Integrating_Technology_for_Active_Learning
Everyone is invited to join.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Sharing is Caring!
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL)
http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd
Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/
Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops


On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Wayne Mackintosh 
mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Eliza,

 That's a good point. Self-organising, peer production communities are very
 different from the traditional model, hence the fear of organisations to try
 it out.

 Administrators and decision-makers who don't have experience of the
 effectiveness and agility of self-organising systems find it hard to take
 decisions committing time and resources to this kind of approach. In some
 respects, its like learning to swim -- you have got to get your feet wet.

 One way that has worked well for us is the pilot project approach.  We
 encourage and support organisations to test the waters with a small but
 focused project. Once members of the project team see and experience the
 benefits of the self-organising approach -- they're sold.  It takes time --
 but authentic experience is a powerful approach in supporting organisations
 with incremental transformation.

 Cheers
 Wayne

 2009/11/15 eliza papajanis eliza.papaja...@gmail.com

 Hi, there is one point to be added to the list;it`s to protect the victims
 ( teachers or educators) from the bad guys stiil conjacted to the old ways
 and the archaic view of the education; some of them they do it for money
 and/or security and they think there is not a better way. They should be
 encouraged to think differently and it can not be done with the old board of
 authorities hidden in the rooms of all sorts of administration bureau.You
 know what I am speaking about - it is world wilde spret malady.My question
 is: HOW IS IT TO BE DONE.?

 2009/11/14 Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com

 Hi Everyone,

 A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge
 freely.

 So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify
 and reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a
 free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and
 society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it
 comes to education?

 To paraphrase Bob Dylan:

  How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist
 Before it's washed to the sea?
 Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist
 Before they're allowed to be free?
 Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads],
 Pretending [we] just don't see?
 The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
 The answer is blowin' in the wind.

 The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a
 no-brainer.  Getting back to Dylan's refrain  The answer, my friend, is
 blowin' in the wind has been described as impenetrably ambiguous: either
 the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as
 intangible as the wind (see:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind)

 I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture
 movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national
 curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ).


- Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa).
- During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our
site with a full-time staff of two people.
- WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more
than 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who 
 share
knowledge freely.
- WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6%
of the number of the registered users compared to WV)
- WE can now work internationally, freed from the geographical
constraints of the Commonwealth.

 WE should take a moment and reflect on what WE have achieved -- this is
 an amazing story and you are making it happen!

 However, we shouldn't gloat for too long. 2015 is a little more than 5
 years away, but I sense an energy that WE have a fighting chance in
 achieving our goal of free digital resources in support of all national
 curricula.

- WE need to become more effective supporting new WikiEducators in
becoming active contributors to our common goal
- WE need our technology to become transparent (i.e. significantly
easier to use)
- WE need to continue our commitment to provide free training to any
warm-blooded (as in mammal) educator in the world who wants to learn wiki
skills
- WE need to connect educators