Re: [Wikimedia-l] Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open!

[Asaf Bartov]

for convenience, the correct link is of course without the "thanks" bit:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction

I've started voting, and I've had to stop to express my thanks and
admiration for the _fantastic_ experience provided this year.  I'm sure it
was a tremendous amount of work -- it's really appreciated!  Everything is
neat and responsive, the announcement comes when the information is already
localized to quite a few languages, and the whole thing is just
tremendously appealing.

So thank you, everyone involved with all aspects of making this the
awesomest POTY experience ever, right from the start.

Even if you've never participated in POTY before, or didn't like the
process previously, I encourage you to give it a shot this year!

(those who know my wiki ways will know I am very much a verbal rather than
visual kind of Wikimedian; I assure you some of my colleagues at WMF are
double-checking the From: line in disbelief.  I'm really that impressed!)

   Asaf




On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:11 PM, User Mono  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
> Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2013 Picture of the Year
> competition is now open. This year will be the eighth edition of the annual
> Wikimedia Commons photo competition, which recognizes exceptional
> contributions by users on Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia users are invited to
> vote for their favorite images featured on Commons during the last year
> (2013) to produce a single Picture of the Year.
> Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the
> international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered
> in this competition. These images include professional animal and plant
> shots, breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historical
> images, photographs portraying the world's best architecture, impressive
> human portraits, and so much more.
> For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topical categories.
> Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you may vote for as
> many images as you like. The top 30 overall and the most popular image in
> each category will continue to the final. In the final round, you may vote
> for just one image to become the Picture of the Year
> Round 1 will end on 7 February 2014. To vote, visit
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction
> Thanks,User:Mono
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] New Program Evaluation report: Wiki Loves Monuments

[Asaf Bartov]

Thanks!  The most interesting datum I've noticed so far is the rate of
active editor (5+ edits/month) retention among new contributors after six
months, which is about 0.4%.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_portal/Library/WLM#New_users

That (along with the easy-to-measure and already known sheer quanities of
photos generated) seems to me to be the most robust number to use in
evaluating WLM (and comparable) funding requests.  0.4% may be considered
worthwhile or not enough, depending on local contexts, so I'm not drawing a
universal conclusion from it, just noting it.

(just thinking out loud here.)

   A.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Samuel Klein  wrote:

> Thanks!  Great to see this summary.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:00 PM, LiAnna Davis wrote:
>
>> (please excuse cross-posting)
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I posted the latest in the string of program evaluation reports on Meta
>> today, on Wiki Loves Monuments:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_portal/Library/WLM
>>
>> Highlights of the report include:
>> * About 17% of the images uploaded through Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 are
>> in use on our projects.
>> * The majority of Wiki Loves Monuments participants are new users;
>> however, the survival rate of new users is low (1.7% of the 2012
>> participants made at least one edit and 1.4% uploaded at least one new file
>> to Commons six months after the event).
>> * Half of the existing editors who participated in Wiki Loves Monuments
>> 2012 also participated in Wiki Loves Monuments 2013, with new users making
>> up for the other half.
>> * The global Wiki Loves Monuments organizing team helps support Wiki
>> Loves Monuments organizers around the world, providing replication
>> opportunities via direct support. This makes it easier for someone to
>> organize their own Wiki Loves Monuments contest.
>>
>> Questions are welcomed and encouraged on the talk page.
>>
>> On behalf of the Program Evaluation team,
>>
>> LiAnna
>>
>> --
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[Wikimedia-l] Round 1 of Picture of the Year 2013 is open!

[User Mono]

Dear Wikimedians,
Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2013 Picture of the Year 
competition is now open. This year will be the eighth edition of the annual 
Wikimedia Commons photo competition, which recognizes exceptional contributions 
by users on Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia users are invited to vote for their 
favorite images featured on Commons during the last year (2013) to produce a 
single Picture of the Year.
Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international 
Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this 
competition. These images include professional animal and plant shots, 
breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historical images, 
photographs portraying the world's best architecture, impressive human 
portraits, and so much more.
For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topical categories. Two 
rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you may vote for as many 
images as you like. The top 30 overall and the most popular image in each 
category will continue to the final. In the final round, you may vote for just 
one image to become the Picture of the Year
Round 1 will end on 7 February 2014. To vote, visit 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2013/Introduction
Thanks,User:Mono
Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee 
  
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Special report: The few who write Wikipedia
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Featured content: Dr. Watson, I presume with the Tramp
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Traffic report: No show for the Globes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-01-22/Traffic_report

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[Wikimedia-l] New Program Evaluation report: Wiki Loves Monuments

[LiAnna Davis]

(please excuse cross-posting)

Hi everyone!

I posted the latest in the string of program evaluation reports on Meta
today, on Wiki Loves Monuments:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_portal/Library/WLM

Highlights of the report include:
* About 17% of the images uploaded through Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 are in
use on our projects.
* The majority of Wiki Loves Monuments participants are new users; however,
the survival rate of new users is low (1.7% of the 2012 participants made
at least one edit and 1.4% uploaded at least one new file to Commons six
months after the event).
* Half of the existing editors who participated in Wiki Loves Monuments
2012 also participated in Wiki Loves Monuments 2013, with new users making
up for the other half.
* The global Wiki Loves Monuments organizing team helps support Wiki Loves
Monuments organizers around the world, providing replication opportunities
via direct support. This makes it easier for someone to organize their own
Wiki Loves Monuments contest.

Questions are welcomed and encouraged on the talk page.

On behalf of the Program Evaluation team,

LiAnna

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

[Jane Darnell]

Sorry, missed the memo on WiDaR - looks *very* impressive - thanks Gerard!

2014/1/24, Gerard Meijssen :
> Hoi,
> As I recall it there is a category with Russian female painters.. Using
> "Widar" [1] and identifying them as a painter and a female takes all of 5
> minutes..
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
> [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html
>
>
> On 24 January 2014 13:40, Jane Darnell  wrote:
>
>> Magnus, you are magical as always, thanks!
>> What an odd list though - who has been working so diligently on
>> Russian paintresses? Whoever you are, great work!
>> meanwhile, sending more virtual kudos to Magnus while I dig into these
>> results,
>> Jane
>>
>> 2014/1/24, Magnus Manske :
>> > A list of female painters with no article on en.wp:
>> >
>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=claim%5B106%3A1028181%5D%20and%20claim%5B21%3A6581072%5D%20%20and%20nolink%5Benwiki%5D
>> >
>> > (might take a few seconds to load)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Magnus
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating
>> >> some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about
>> >> Art & Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I
>> >> could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects.
>> >> With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not
>> >> very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists.
>> >>
>> >> 2014/1/23, Risker :
>> >> > On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske > >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box
>> >> would
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> > the main "attraction"; but if infoboxes were to fall back on
>> wikidata
>> >> >> > information, which they could technically already do, all we'd
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > do
>> >> >> > is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with
>> the
>> >> >> > wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an
>> >> infobox
>> >> >> > with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ...
>> >> >> > low-tech
>> >> >> ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
>> >> >> single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that
>> >> might
>> >> > be affected, particularly as different projects have very different
>> >> > ideas
>> >> > about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language
>> links
>> >> is
>> >> > acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content,
>> >> > and
>> >> > this proposal is a close parallel.
>> >> >
>> >> > Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is
>> >> > hosted
>> >> > is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it
>> into
>> >> an
>> >> > actual page.
>> >> >
>> >> > Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer
>> >> > to
>> >> > participate would be a first step.
>> >> >
>> >> > Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
As I recall it there is a category with Russian female painters.. Using
"Widar" [1] and identifying them as a painter and a female takes all of 5
minutes..
Thanks,
 GerardM


[1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html


On 24 January 2014 13:40, Jane Darnell  wrote:

> Magnus, you are magical as always, thanks!
> What an odd list though - who has been working so diligently on
> Russian paintresses? Whoever you are, great work!
> meanwhile, sending more virtual kudos to Magnus while I dig into these
> results,
> Jane
>
> 2014/1/24, Magnus Manske :
> > A list of female painters with no article on en.wp:
> >
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=claim%5B106%3A1028181%5D%20and%20claim%5B21%3A6581072%5D%20%20and%20nolink%5Benwiki%5D
> >
> > (might take a few seconds to load)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Magnus
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
> >
> >> I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating
> >> some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about
> >> Art & Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I
> >> could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects.
> >> With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not
> >> very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists.
> >>
> >> 2014/1/23, Risker :
> >> > On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske  >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box
> >> would
> >> >> be
> >> >> > the main "attraction"; but if infoboxes were to fall back on
> wikidata
> >> >> > information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with
> the
> >> >> > wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an
> >> infobox
> >> >> > with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ...
> >> >> > low-tech
> >> >> ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.
> >> >>
> >> >> Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
> >> >> single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that
> >> might
> >> > be affected, particularly as different projects have very different
> >> > ideas
> >> > about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language
> links
> >> is
> >> > acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content,
> >> > and
> >> > this proposal is a close parallel.
> >> >
> >> > Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is
> >> > hosted
> >> > is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it
> into
> >> an
> >> > actual page.
> >> >
> >> > Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to
> >> > participate would be a first step.
> >> >
> >> > Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

[Jane Darnell]

Magnus, you are magical as always, thanks!
What an odd list though - who has been working so diligently on
Russian paintresses? Whoever you are, great work!
meanwhile, sending more virtual kudos to Magnus while I dig into these results,
Jane

2014/1/24, Magnus Manske :
> A list of female painters with no article on en.wp:
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=claim%5B106%3A1028181%5D%20and%20claim%5B21%3A6581072%5D%20%20and%20nolink%5Benwiki%5D
>
> (might take a few seconds to load)
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:
>
>> I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating
>> some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about
>> Art & Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I
>> could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects.
>> With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not
>> very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists.
>>
>> 2014/1/23, Risker :
>> > On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box
>> would
>> >> be
>> >> > the main "attraction"; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata
>> >> > information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have
>> >> > to
>> >> > do
>> >> > is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the
>> >> > wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an
>> infobox
>> >> > with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ...
>> >> > low-tech
>> >> ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
>> >> single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that
>> might
>> > be affected, particularly as different projects have very different
>> > ideas
>> > about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language links
>> is
>> > acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content,
>> > and
>> > this proposal is a close parallel.
>> >
>> > Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is
>> > hosted
>> > is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it into
>> an
>> > actual page.
>> >
>> > Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to
>> > participate would be a first step.
>> >
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[Wikimedia-l] Contribution to Visually impaired

[Klein Eduard]

Hi,
I came across this interesting thread and I would like to contribute with 
results of our recent TAO project (Third Age Online). We did R&D in the context 
of a joint EU project with respect to Wikipedia and Accessibility. A summary 
you can find here:
http://www.thirdageonline.eu/project-tao-2/software-development/mediawiki-accessibility-enhancements/
among others containing a link to a tracking list for developers: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Accessibility_Tracking

Some of the accessibility issues that have been identified in our study have 
already been fixed by the team of the German Chapter of Wikipedia, but there is 
still a lot to do in order to improve the situation.

Kind Regards,
Eduard

Eduard Klein
BUAS Bern University of Applied Sciences
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Yes, indeed.



Collaborating to get a well advertised clearing centre running would be a very 
good first step. But to get over the usual issue that nobody in the community 
comes forward to point out where the gaps are (which may not be surprising as 
the people we want to contact here are by definition already excluded from the 
community) we need outreach to the relevant impairment/disability groups to get 
their members involved. That is something that the Chapters would be good at, 
as many such groups/charities are national ones.   There are quite a few in the 
UK, and no doubt more in Germany and elsewhere.



Outreach is what the chapters do!



Best regards



Michael







Michael Maggs

Chair, Wikimedia UK





On 15 Jan 2014, at 11:44, rexx https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l>> 
wrote:



> The single biggest problem, Michael, is that when one talks in the abstract, 
> we end up chasing illusory problems that don't actually have any impact. It's 
> very difficult to create systems that are always 100% accessible by all if we 
> start by trying to second-guess what accessibility problems visitors might 
> encounter.

>

> What we need is a well-advertised "clearing centre" where anybody who 
> experiences an accessibility problem on one of our sites can register their 
> problem, which would then allow us to examine it and provide the most 
> effective solution.

>

> I'm quite happy to continue giving advice on the issues covered at

>

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility

>

> and I'd like to see it adopted as default on the WMUK Wiki, but I question 
> the value of volunteers re-inventing the wheel by chasing "gaps" that I'm not 
> at all sure actually exist.

>

> --

> Doug

>

>

>

>

> On 15 January 2014 11:08, Michael Maggs  maggs.name> wrote:

> Can WMUK collaborate with WMDE (and others) on this to push it forward?  
> Obviously a lot of good work has already been done, but perhaps it now needs 
> some long term commitment and leadership to ensure that what has been done is 
> made easily accessible,  and to work on filling gaps in functionality 
> (covering all aspects of disability).

>

> Michael

>

> WMUK Chair

>

> > On 15 Jan 2014, at 09:34, Jon Davies  > wikimedia.org.uk> 
> > wrote:

> >

> > How about starting with what a 'ULS' is? That would help :)

> >

> >

> >> On 15 January 2014 08:50, Gerard Meijssen  >> gmail.com> wrote:

> >>

> >> Hoi,

> >> One obvious point to start is the functionality of the ULS. It already

> >> serves one function for people who have a handicap with their perception.

> >> It has the OpenDyslexic font for people with dyslexia. There are multiple

> >> ways functionality can be provided who have a visual handicap. The size of

> >> the characters can be increased, the colour scheme can be changed (some

> >> people only see yellow on white..)

> >>

> >> If there is one thing wrong with the ULS, it is not in the functionality

> >> but by the utter lack of visibility. ULS is a major component of MediaWiki

> >> and it is not given prominence, Truly how are people going to find

> >> OpenDyslexic... (we are talking about 7 to 10% of a population)...

> >>

> >> Work is done to get more support for webfonts on mobile phones.. It is

> >> being developed.

> >> Thanks,

> >>  GerardM



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

[Magnus Manske]

A list of female painters with no article on en.wp:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=claim%5B106%3A1028181%5D%20and%20claim%5B21%3A6581072%5D%20%20and%20nolink%5Benwiki%5D

(might take a few seconds to load)

Cheers,
Magnus


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Jane Darnell  wrote:

> I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating
> some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about
> Art & Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I
> could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects.
> With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not
> very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists.
>
> 2014/1/23, Risker :
> > On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box
> would
> >> be
> >> > the main "attraction"; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata
> >> > information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have to
> >> > do
> >> > is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the
> >> > wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an
> infobox
> >> > with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ... low-tech
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
> >> single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that
> might
> > be affected, particularly as different projects have very different ideas
> > about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language links
> is
> > acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content, and
> > this proposal is a close parallel.
> >
> > Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is hosted
> > is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it into
> an
> > actual page.
> >
> > Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to
> > participate would be a first step.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
You are conflating two tools .. they are still quite distinct..

   - What you refer to is a query tool and IT provides you with the numbers
   you quote.
   - Reasonator provides you with a search functionality and a display
   functionality

So Reasonator gives you something like this [1]
Thanks,
  GerardM

[1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?lang=nl&q=3356848

[1]


On 24 January 2014 09:24, Jane Darnell  wrote:

> I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating
> some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about
> Art & Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I
> could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects.
> With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not
> very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists.
>
> 2014/1/23, Risker :
> > On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box
> would
> >> be
> >> > the main "attraction"; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata
> >> > information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have to
> >> > do
> >> > is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the
> >> > wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an
> infobox
> >> > with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ... low-tech
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
> >> single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that
> might
> > be affected, particularly as different projects have very different ideas
> > about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language links
> is
> > acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content, and
> > this proposal is a close parallel.
> >
> > Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is hosted
> > is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it into
> an
> > actual page.
> >
> > Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to
> > participate would be a first step.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

[Jane Darnell]

I am not convinced that this is useful (yet). I have been generating
some red-link lists for the upcoming international edit-a-thon about
Art & Feminism on February 1st, and I tried out this tool to see if I
could come with with lists of women artists already in other projects.
With Reasonator I see 503 female persons and 760 male persons. Not
very helpful (yet) for generating red-link lists.

2014/1/23, Risker :
> On 23 January 2014 15:42, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
>
>> On 23 January 2014 15:12, Magnus Manske 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I thought about that as well. Besides the intro text, the info box would
>> be
>> > the main "attraction"; but if infoboxes were to fall back on wikidata
>> > information, which they could technically already do, all we'd have to
>> > do
>> > is add a blank infobox, and it should automatically fill up with the
>> > wikidata information. In light of that, writing code to fill an infobox
>> > with values form wikidata to paste into the article seems ... low-tech
>> ;-)
>>
>> Indeed - but we have to work with what we have.
>>
>> Perhaps we could concentrate on one very narrow subject, and its
>> single corresponding infobox, as a pilot?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I suggest that this discussion should be on the various projects that might
> be affected, particularly as different projects have very different ideas
> about whether the use of Wikidata for anything more than language links is
> acceptable. Many projects do not permit bulk bot creation of content, and
> this proposal is a close parallel.
>
> Further, content that isn't editable on the project on which it is hosted
> is probably not a very effective way to persuade people to turn it into an
> actual page.
>
> Trialing the process on some small projects that actively volunteer to
> participate would be a first step.
>
> Risker/Anne
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