Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

2018-03-06 Thread Pine W
Hello,

I believe that unofficial groups are fairly common. There were unofficial
meetups for years in the City of Seattle.

Similar to how computer games, movies, and television shows may have
unofficial fan clubs and meetup groups, I believe that the same should be
true for Wikimedia.

I can understand how problems would arise if unofficial groups tried to use
Wikimedia trademarks, such as the name "Wikipedia", to sell merchandise, to
do political advocacy, or to request donations. For those types of
situations there are affiliation agreements, trademark agreements, and
other legal processes that happen between local organizations and WMF.

So long as a group is not misusing the trademarks, I think that people who
would like to meet or communicate with others who are interested in
Wikimedia should be free to do so.

Besides the benefits from allowing people to make informal connections,
another reason for being somewhat generous with allowing use of the
trademarks is that I think that most of us would not want the WMF Board to
use the trademarks to try to suppress dissent with WMF decisions from
Wikimedia affiliate organizations, online communities, and individuals.
Some of us have memories of WMF's use of Superprotect against the German
Wikipedia community

.

If you are interested in discussing this topic further or have concerns
about a specific group's use of trademarks, then I suggest that you contact
WMF Legal and/or the Affiliations Committee.

I hope that this information is helpful. Thank you for wanting to protect
the Wikipedia brand.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Dung Nguyen  wrote:

> The issue at hand here is that the linked-to Facebook page is not directly
> affiliated with the Wikipedia project.  It might share some members, but
> Wikipedia has no control over its content.  For a Wikipedia project that
> has had its share of misconceptions about its affiliations, I think it's
> inadvisable to link to a non-official page.  Preferably, the page should
> meet some minimum requirements to become an official page of the project
> and be "anointed" as such before it's linked to from the project front
> page.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] New Affiliations Committee appointments

2018-03-06 Thread Moheen Reeyad
 Congratulations to everyone!


*Moheen Reeyad*@moheenreeyad 
moheenreeyad.xyz

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:17 PM, Alangi Derick 
wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> With due respect Katherine Maher, Narunnaby Hasive and everyone else, thank
> you all very much for the warm welcome. I'm grateful to serve the Wikimedia
> movement as a member of the Affiliations Committee and beyond. :)
>
> *Kind regards,*
> *Derick N. Alangi*
>
> *V. Developer @ Wikimedia*
> *Co-founder & Technical Lead, Africa Wikimedia Developers (AWMD)*
>
> *More infos: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alangi_Derick
> *
>
> *[image: https://twitter.com/AlangiDerick]
> 
>   *
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <
> nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd>
> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations to all!
> >
> >
> > Hasive
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Congratulations to Sami, Derick, and Biplab on your new appointments,
> > Emna
> > > and Maor on your reappointments, and thank you Galileo for your many
> > years
> > > of service!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Lucas Teles 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Congratulations to the approved ones and thanks Galio for so many
> years
> > > of
> > > > work!
> > > >
> > > > Teles
> > > >
> > > > Em qua, 24 de jan de 2018 às 13:04, Bijay chaurasia <
> > > > bijaychaurasi...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > > >
> > > > > Congratulations.
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Bijay
> > > > >
> > > > > On 24 Jan 2018 8:59 a.m., "Rémy Gerbet" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Congratulations to you all !!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Gerbet Rémy*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Chargé de Mission Politique Territoriale**07 84 37 91 04*
> > > > > > *---**-*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*Association pour le libre partage de la
> > > connaissance
> > > > > > *www.wikimedia.fr  *
> > > > > > *40 rue de clery, **75002 Paris*
> > > > > >  > 86814/2.34683
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * 
> > > > > > *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-01-23 17:00 GMT+01:00 Galileo Vidoni :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks to Kirill and to the rest of the committee for their
> kind
> > > > words.
> > > > > > > I'm very fond of having served AffCom and I'm always available
> if
> > > you
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > my past experience could be useful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As to Stu's question —yes, there have been cases of outgoing
> > > > committee
> > > > > > > members not being re-appointed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Galileo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > El 23 ene. 2018 4:37 p. m., "Stuart Prior" <
> > > > > > stuart.pr...@wikimedia.org.uk>
> > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Congratulations to those re-selected and newly appointed, and
> > > > > > > commiserations to those unsuccessful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do have one question spurred on by the consistent
> re-selection
> > of
> > > > > > > existing members for the past two rounds which will might
> > require a
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > > collective institutional memory to answer.
> > > > > > > Has anyone putting themselves forward for re-selection ever not
> > > been
> > > > > > > re-appointed by the committee?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Stuart
> > > > > > > (User:Battleofalma)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 23 January 2018 at 13:52, Nabin K. Sapkota <
> > > > > > nboycreationne...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Congratulations to all newly appointed and reappointed
> members.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Nabin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 23 January 2018 at 19:33, Kirill Lokshin <
> > > > > kirill.loks...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm pleased to announce that Derick Ndimnain Alangi, Biplab
> > > > Anand,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > Sami
> > > > > > > > > Mlouhi have appointed to the Affiliations Committee as new
> > > > members.
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > addition, two incumbent members -- Maor Malul and Emna
> > Mizouni
> > > --
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > re-appointed for an additional term.  Please join me in
> > > welcoming
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > and returning members.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The committee extends its profound 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] #WeMissTurkey social media campaign

2018-03-06 Thread Zachary McCune
Hi Mathieu -

Wanted to share a quick response to your questions.

At present, neither Facebook nor Twitter are currently blocked within
Turkey. That does not mean that those platforms do not have (many) takedown
requests from Turkish authorities, but it does mean the platforms are
active and popular [1][2]. In our planning for this campaign, we've also
noted that YouTube and Instagram are popular sites for Turkish internet
users and may become more active parts of this campaign. In fact, the
Foundation's social media team has just shared the first Turkish
artist-made "We Miss Turkey" poster on the @Wikipedia instagram account
[3].

On the second point, I am not aware of any efforts to currently update the
documentation of censorship you've linked. It would be great to better map
and evaluate these blocks, as you describe.

- Zack


[1] Content removal requests from Twitter -
https://transparency.twitter.com/en/removal-requests.html
[2] e.g.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/570098/distribution-of-social-media-used-turkey/
[3] https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf_2JXQHgEa/



On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 3:47 AM, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> One proposal is that we add data and text about Turkey and its Ottoman
> Empire past. There is much information that is missing or needs expansion,
> at that a hat tip to the Catalan Wikipedia.. They are really good in what
> they report.
>
> I will add data information in Wikidata. In the past I added information
> for the Sultans, quite often about their wives and mothers (who were among
> the power brokers at the time). There is much data to add; one of them are
> the governors of the elayets. I would really welcome maps that show how the
> Ottoman Empire changed over time.. The technology needed is something we
> could also use of other countries.
>
> Just to consider, the Ottoman empire has a similar relevance to many other
> countries, arguably there is at least as much to say as there is for
> Germany, France or Britain.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> PS I will also add information depending on the time and my location.
>
> On 5 March 2018 at 20:44, Zachary McCune  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > For the last 10 months, several teams within the Wikimedia Foundation
> have
> > been working with the local Turkish community to lift the block of
> > Wikipedia in Turkey.
> >
> > Today, we have launched a social media campaign designed to help raise
> > international awareness of the block and send a positive message to our
> > friends in Turkey. We are asking individual volunteers, affiliates, and
> > anyone else who would like to participate to join us in one of several
> > ways. More details are below and on Meta-Wiki:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
> >
> > The campaign, based around the hashtag #WeMissTurkey, is an opportunity
> for
> > all of us to tell our friends in Turkey that we miss them and help inform
> > the world what impact their absence is having.
> >
> >
> > == An overview of the #WeMissTurkey campaign ==
> >
> > From March 5-12, we will be reminding the world about the Turkish block
> of
> > Wikipedia. We will communicate primarily on Twitter and Facebook-
> networks
> > where advocates for Wikipedia can increase the reach of messages about
> the
> > block.
> >
> > On Twitter, we will share a series of tweets about Turkish culture,
> > history, sports, etc. from @Wikipedia . We’ll also be sharing messages
> that
> > express sadness for missing the perspectives of Turkish people on our
> > projects, and our hopes that access to Wikipedia will be restored in
> > Turkey.
> >
> > On Facebook, we have developed a "photo frame" users can add to their
> > profile picture to show support for Wikipedia in Turkey.
> >
> > In addition to posting messages, we will also be sharing some posters
> from
> > Turkish artists which help visualize the culture and knowledge we are
> > missing. The posters will be released throughout the week and available
> for
> > you to utilize. We invite you to develop posters or graphics of your own.
> >
> > We hope that affiliates and volunteers around the world will join us! You
> > can get involved in a number of ways, including by creating, sharing, and
> > retweeting messages, sharing our posters and creating your own, and more!
> > More details on how to get involved are on the Meta-Wiki campaign page:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
> >
> >
> > == On tone ==
> >
> > The messages for this campaign are being directed to the people of
> Turkey,
> > and have a positive message and tone. We do not want to use this campaign
> > to directly confront authorities in Turkey. We are asking that others
> > managing Wikimedia social media accounts join us, and be respectful of
> the
> > positive goal and message. This messaging approach for the campaign is
> part
> > of a broader, ongoing strategy from the Wikimedia 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] #WeMissTurkey social media campaign

2018-03-06 Thread Isaac Olatunde
AFAIK, both Twitter and Facebook are banned by the Turkish government.

Regards,

Isaac

On Mar 6, 2018 8:50 AM, "mathieu stumpf guntz" <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Hello Zachary,
>
> First, thank you and all people involved for this great initiative.
>
> There are two points for which I would be happy to have more information
> about.
>
> The first one is about the state of censorship in Turkey, not only
> regarding each Wikimedia project, but also for the communication canal
> intended to diffuse this campaign, namely Facebook and Twitter. Are they
> free of any censorship from the Turkish government? Also, although I guess
> this was already taken into account, is there some some communication
> platform particularly praised among Turkish people outside this two
> platform?
>
> The second is more broad, on the Wikimedia effort regarding censorship.
> There are some resources I easily found [1][2][3], but nothing as an
> official up-to-date comprehensive overview of the state of censorship
> affecting Wikimedia projects in the world. Something like a page including
> a world map showing various degree of censorship and a description of how
> and why it's in place, as well as Wikimedia initiatives aiming at making
> cease this kind of practices.
>
> Thank you again for this initiative, and thank you in advance for any
> feedback on this points.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Censorship
> [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Notices_received_from_
> search_engines
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia
>
>
> Le 05/03/2018 à 20:44, Zachary McCune a écrit :
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> For the last 10 months, several teams within the Wikimedia Foundation have
>> been working with the local Turkish community to lift the block of
>> Wikipedia in Turkey.
>>
>> Today, we have launched a social media campaign designed to help raise
>> international awareness of the block and send a positive message to our
>> friends in Turkey. We are asking individual volunteers, affiliates, and
>> anyone else who would like to participate to join us in one of several
>> ways. More details are below and on Meta-Wiki:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/
>> wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
>>
>> The campaign, based around the hashtag #WeMissTurkey, is an opportunity
>> for
>> all of us to tell our friends in Turkey that we miss them and help inform
>> the world what impact their absence is having.
>>
>>
>> == An overview of the #WeMissTurkey campaign ==
>>
>>  From March 5-12, we will be reminding the world about the Turkish block
>> of
>> Wikipedia. We will communicate primarily on Twitter and Facebook- networks
>> where advocates for Wikipedia can increase the reach of messages about the
>> block.
>>
>> On Twitter, we will share a series of tweets about Turkish culture,
>> history, sports, etc. from @Wikipedia . We’ll also be sharing messages
>> that
>> express sadness for missing the perspectives of Turkish people on our
>> projects, and our hopes that access to Wikipedia will be restored in
>> Turkey.
>>
>> On Facebook, we have developed a "photo frame" users can add to their
>> profile picture to show support for Wikipedia in Turkey.
>>
>> In addition to posting messages, we will also be sharing some posters from
>> Turkish artists which help visualize the culture and knowledge we are
>> missing. The posters will be released throughout the week and available
>> for
>> you to utilize. We invite you to develop posters or graphics of your own.
>>
>> We hope that affiliates and volunteers around the world will join us! You
>> can get involved in a number of ways, including by creating, sharing, and
>> retweeting messages, sharing our posters and creating your own, and more!
>> More details on how to get involved are on the Meta-Wiki campaign page:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
>>
>>
>> == On tone ==
>>
>> The messages for this campaign are being directed to the people of Turkey,
>> and have a positive message and tone. We do not want to use this campaign
>> to directly confront authorities in Turkey. We are asking that others
>> managing Wikimedia social media accounts join us, and be respectful of the
>> positive goal and message. This messaging approach for the campaign is
>> part
>> of a broader, ongoing strategy from the Wikimedia Foundation to lift the
>> block of Wikipedia in Turkey.
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions, let us know!
>>
>>
>> Zack & the Comms team
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] #WeMissTurkey social media campaign

2018-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
One proposal is that we add data and text about Turkey and its Ottoman
Empire past. There is much information that is missing or needs expansion,
at that a hat tip to the Catalan Wikipedia.. They are really good in what
they report.

I will add data information in Wikidata. In the past I added information
for the Sultans, quite often about their wives and mothers (who were among
the power brokers at the time). There is much data to add; one of them are
the governors of the elayets. I would really welcome maps that show how the
Ottoman Empire changed over time.. The technology needed is something we
could also use of other countries.

Just to consider, the Ottoman empire has a similar relevance to many other
countries, arguably there is at least as much to say as there is for
Germany, France or Britain.
Thanks,
GerardM

PS I will also add information depending on the time and my location.

On 5 March 2018 at 20:44, Zachary McCune  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> For the last 10 months, several teams within the Wikimedia Foundation have
> been working with the local Turkish community to lift the block of
> Wikipedia in Turkey.
>
> Today, we have launched a social media campaign designed to help raise
> international awareness of the block and send a positive message to our
> friends in Turkey. We are asking individual volunteers, affiliates, and
> anyone else who would like to participate to join us in one of several
> ways. More details are below and on Meta-Wiki:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
>
> The campaign, based around the hashtag #WeMissTurkey, is an opportunity for
> all of us to tell our friends in Turkey that we miss them and help inform
> the world what impact their absence is having.
>
>
> == An overview of the #WeMissTurkey campaign ==
>
> From March 5-12, we will be reminding the world about the Turkish block of
> Wikipedia. We will communicate primarily on Twitter and Facebook- networks
> where advocates for Wikipedia can increase the reach of messages about the
> block.
>
> On Twitter, we will share a series of tweets about Turkish culture,
> history, sports, etc. from @Wikipedia . We’ll also be sharing messages that
> express sadness for missing the perspectives of Turkish people on our
> projects, and our hopes that access to Wikipedia will be restored in
> Turkey.
>
> On Facebook, we have developed a "photo frame" users can add to their
> profile picture to show support for Wikipedia in Turkey.
>
> In addition to posting messages, we will also be sharing some posters from
> Turkish artists which help visualize the culture and knowledge we are
> missing. The posters will be released throughout the week and available for
> you to utilize. We invite you to develop posters or graphics of your own.
>
> We hope that affiliates and volunteers around the world will join us! You
> can get involved in a number of ways, including by creating, sharing, and
> retweeting messages, sharing our posters and creating your own, and more!
> More details on how to get involved are on the Meta-Wiki campaign page:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WeMissTurkey
>
>
> == On tone ==
>
> The messages for this campaign are being directed to the people of Turkey,
> and have a positive message and tone. We do not want to use this campaign
> to directly confront authorities in Turkey. We are asking that others
> managing Wikimedia social media accounts join us, and be respectful of the
> positive goal and message. This messaging approach for the campaign is part
> of a broader, ongoing strategy from the Wikimedia Foundation to lift the
> block of Wikipedia in Turkey.
>
>
> If you have any questions, let us know!
>
>
> Zack & the Comms team
>
>
> --
> Zachary McCune
> Global Audiences
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> zmcc...@wikimedia.org
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-06 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:16 AM, WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The discussions about declining editor levels started to go quiet in mid
> 2015 after we noticed that numbers had started to rally at the end of 2014.
>

The numbers for English Wikipedia, you mean. For the next four largest
wikis, only French has improved recently; for German the decline got
slightly less steep around 2014 but still ongoing, Dutch has been in a
pretty much linear decline since 2007 and Russian actually started to
decline around 2014.
https://imgur.com/a/OISNg

Many other wikis show the same pattern of decline. Also if you look at
English Wikipedia new editor counts it's not hard to think that whatever
caused the stabilization was a one-off event:
https://imgur.com/a/SEN5e
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Posted - Wikimedia Foundation's 2017-18 Annual Plan Mid-Year Report

2018-03-06 Thread James Baldwin
Hello Everyone,

The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to present our Annual Plan Mid-Year
report for 2017-18
,
published on Meta-Wiki.

We would like to extend our appreciation to all of our teams for their hard
work through the first half of this fiscal year.  Also, thank you to the
staff, FDC, and community members for your feedback and support as we
continue to improve our planning and reporting practices.

Thank you,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-06 Thread Anders Wennersten
Are you aware of the huge difference in bureaucracy on the different 
language versions?


Of course a more elaborate set of written rules is needed where there 
are many users, then what is needed where the number of contributors are 
fewer.


But even on an smaller language version like "mine" svwp, it is tough to 
be a newbee. There is a lot or best practice being accumulated, and you 
must follow these even if i is more by being told of these then need for 
you to "know" or look into policiy documents etc. And there is a need to 
know more of techniques, like templates and Wikidata use.


So I agree the general complexity is increasing, but I disagree that 
there is in general increasing bureaucracy.


Anders

Den 2018-03-06 kl. 11:16, skrev WereSpielChequers:

Hi Zubin and welcome.

The discussions about declining editor levels started to go quiet in mid
2015 after we noticed that numbers had started to rally at the end of 2014.

Here is the signpost article that covered part of this in 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-08-26/In_focus
That focussed on the very active, but the raw edit count shows the same
pattern on English wikipedia, a decline from 2007 to 2014, then a rally and
the last couple of years being broadly stable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Time_Between_Edits

"Wikipedia in terminal decline" was an interesting story for journalists
and others, "maturing organisation is broadly stable on several measures"
sounds just a tad boring.

As for your concern about bureaucracy and philosophical rants. Many of the
policies are complex, and there are even examples of things that contradict
each other. But it is a very very complex system, and some of the
complexity comes from hard won compromises between people with very
different views. A commercial organisation could have done some things more
simply, but a volunteer organisation can't simply tell people to do what
they are paid to do. I suspect that many reforms are possible and may even
be necessary, but it really helps when you are changing something to
understand the different perspectives that lead to that compromise.


WereSpielChequers







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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Zubin and welcome.

The discussions about declining editor levels started to go quiet in mid
2015 after we noticed that numbers had started to rally at the end of 2014.

Here is the signpost article that covered part of this in 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-08-26/In_focus
That focussed on the very active, but the raw edit count shows the same
pattern on English wikipedia, a decline from 2007 to 2014, then a rally and
the last couple of years being broadly stable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Time_Between_Edits

"Wikipedia in terminal decline" was an interesting story for journalists
and others, "maturing organisation is broadly stable on several measures"
sounds just a tad boring.

As for your concern about bureaucracy and philosophical rants. Many of the
policies are complex, and there are even examples of things that contradict
each other. But it is a very very complex system, and some of the
complexity comes from hard won compromises between people with very
different views. A commercial organisation could have done some things more
simply, but a volunteer organisation can't simply tell people to do what
they are paid to do. I suspect that many reforms are possible and may even
be necessary, but it really helps when you are changing something to
understand the different perspectives that lead to that compromise.


WereSpielChequers






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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in the Wikimedia movement: Conversations with communities

2018-03-06 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz

Great, thank you Maria.

Will there also be some room for feedback from women who don't want to 
express with their faces bare?


I would also appreciate to know if any similar initiative is already in 
the pipe for other people that might face discremination issues such as 
LGBT+[1],  Asperger Syndrome[2]. I don't pretend this is an extensive 
list, of course, be bold about raising awareness about other 
discreminatory problems you might know.


Cheers

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT%2B/Portal
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Aspergian_Wikimedians


Le 05/03/2018 à 23:06, Maria Cruz a écrit :

*Hi all, In honour of Women’s History Month, the Community Engagement
department is hosting a series of conversations with community members
about Women in the Wikimedia movement
,
and what their experience is like contributing to our projects. Our
conversations will focus on women within three strategic areas of our work:
Programs, Technical Spaces, and Leadership positions. Each conversation
will have two community members presenting on their work, and 15-20 minutes
at the end for conversation, follow up questions, and discussion. The goal
of these discussions is to foster understanding of challenges and
inequalities that women face throughout our movement, and to engage with
our communities to help better address them.These conversations will be
online events, streamed on YouTube, and hosted on BlueJeans. If you would
like to participate in these events, please add the event to your calendar,
or sign up on wiki: - Women in Wikimedia programs: Thursday, March 8, 2018,
17:00 UTC (add to calendar
)
(sign up on wiki
)
Presenters: Monika Sengul-Jones (OCLC Wikipedian in Residence) and Luisina
Ferrante (Wikimedia Argentina education coordinator). - Women in
leadership: Wednesday, March 14, 2018, 19:00 UTC (add to calendar
)
(sign up on wiki
)
Presenters: Mervat Salman (Wiki Arabia 2015 organizer) and Natalia
Szafran-Kozakowska (CEE Spring coordinator, and Polish Wikipedia sysop) -
Women in technical spaces: Wednesday, March 21st, 15:00 UTC (add to
calendar
)
(sign up on wiki
)
Presenters: Josephine Lim (Mediawiki contributor) and Ciell (organizer of
all-women hackathon in the Netherlands).If you find this conversation
series interesting, I would greatly appreciate your support spreading the
word. Please feel free to invite anyone you think might have something to
add to the conversations, as well. I look forward to seeing many of you
online!Best, María*



*María Cruz * \\  Communications and Outreach project manager, L
Team \\ Wikimedia
Foundation, Inc.
mc...@wikimedia.org  |  Twitter:  @marianarra_

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Zubin,

not that I know of.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Zubin JAIN 
wrote:

> Hello,
> As a rare newcomer to the Wikimedia project, I've been thinking of some of
> the factors that seem to discourage me from contributing and one of the
> primary ones seem to be the fact that the way the administration is
> organized and rules enforced is often vague and unclear. The definition and
> the method of collection of the vague idea of "Consensus" aren't easily
> found and take a lot of digging to get out.
>
> A lot of the guideline is often mixed with philosophical rants that often
> seem to contradict each other and has grown in size to the point that it's
> unreasonable for any newcomer to have read through it all. The project
> designed to work on consensus and community often seems unresponsive and
> automated as anarchic communication structure impedes effective
> communication by forcing users to learn an obscure markup language just to
> communicate.
>
> I'm wondering if there have been any whitepapers on addressing these
> problems especialy the ones about bureaucracy, reading through the news I
> remember a lot of hay being made about a decline in Wikipedia editor from a
> few years back but that seems ot have faded. Is there any hard data on the
> future trajectory of the project?
>
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> Zubin Jain
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