Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
Hah! Of course, I pick the same day to rewrite WikiShootMe... https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/ On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: An answer would be appreciated... I know you've been in touch w/ the mobile web team since this thread, but just to close the loop for the record: Nearby (now re-implemented in native code and with a new UI) is part of today's stable release of the Android app. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-October/008144.html Please join the mobile list for feedback, questions suggestions. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: An answer would be appreciated... I know you've been in touch w/ the mobile web team since this thread, but just to close the loop for the record: Nearby (now re-implemented in native code and with a new UI) is part of today's stable release of the Android app. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-October/008144.html Please join the mobile list for feedback, questions suggestions. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
An answer would be appreciated... On Jul 12, 2014 1:38 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the nearby feature in v1's beta And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements I can't find the string near on that page. The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in further developing such geo-functionality. Is this a blocker for the return of the nearby feature to the app? In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience and behaviour. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
Until then... http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/ On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the nearby feature in v1's beta And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements I can't find the string near on that page. The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in further developing such geo-functionality. Is this a blocker for the return of the nearby feature to the app? In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience and behaviour. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
Magnus - another great tool, thanks! I just noticed that somewhere someone made an article for something just down the street from me. I guess I should go take a picture of it now! Jane On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Until then... http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/ On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the nearby feature in v1's beta And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements I can't find the string near on that page. The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in further developing such geo-functionality. Is this a blocker for the return of the nearby feature to the app? In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience and behaviour. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
2014-07-12 13:44 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: Until then... http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/ That would be great if there will by filtering by category. So it could be used to find nearby articles about monument without pictures - great tool for Wiki Loves Monuments.. -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content. In February 2012, I initiated discussions that resulted in both the mobile site and the Android app clearly stating in the footer that the content was written by volunteers like you, with a link to the page history, and thereby, the user accounts of all users. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34673 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35616 While a mere link to the desktop site's history screen was considered sufficient, by the WMF's then-general counsel, to meet the letter of the law (of the CC BY-SA license), what we discussed in those tickets was how the WMF could exceed what is legally required, in order to demonstrate to the world what it looks like to properly attribute the contributors of content who require attribution as part of their choice to create content for free. In those 2012 discussions, WMF staff also acknowledged that there were benefits to going even further in that direction, by pulling the page history into the mobile view/app itself. However, in 2014, both the mobile site and the Android app have footers that lack any mention of the authors of the article, merely inserting a link that says: Desktop (on the mobile site, which is still a click away from history) and Last updated June 29 (on the Android app). Is the WMF is serious about honoring the copyright licenses Wikipedia's contributors work under, which require attribution, both technically and in spirit? Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my aversion to the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the Android app [1]. (...) [1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/29/wikipedia-nearby-beta/ and widely reported in the press. Apologies for the thread-split, but this is OT from the original thread. This blog post actually referred to the Mobile Web, where the feature continues to be available (without a map view): http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code -- one which by all accounts has been extremely well received. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. We are in the lucky position to now have a team of three full-time developers working on the app to make it continually better. You can see the most recent code changes here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/apps/android,n,z And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements So you can expect a pretty fast pace of change. The team prioritized features that were highly requested and popular among users. The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in further developing such geo-functionality. CCing Dan (PM for Apps) in case he wants to weigh in on the roadmap. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content. In February 2012, I initiated discussions that resulted in both the mobile site and the Android app clearly stating in the footer that the content was written by volunteers like you, with a link to the page history, and thereby, the user accounts of all users. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34673 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35616 While a mere link to the desktop site's history screen was considered sufficient, by the WMF's then-general counsel, to meet the letter of the law (of the CC BY-SA license), what we discussed in those tickets was how the WMF could exceed what is legally required, in order to demonstrate to the world what it looks like to properly attribute the contributors of content who require attribution as part of their choice to create content for free. In those 2012 discussions, WMF staff also acknowledged that there were benefits to going even further in that direction, by pulling the page history into the mobile view/app itself. However, in 2014, both the mobile site and the Android app have footers that lack any mention of the authors of the article, merely inserting a link that says: Desktop (on the mobile site, which is still a click away from history) and Last updated June 29 (on the Android app). Pete, before making such strong public statements condemning our products, it might help to use them :) Both the new native apps and the mobile web site offer a mobile-friendly page history (like this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth). On the apps it's accessible from the footer, and on the web view the link is given an extremely prominent place in the UI, at the top of all articles (the Last edited by.. line). I'd recommend you follow the WMF blog to stay abreast of our work on this and other mobile features, since we wrote about this back in May: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/05/02/the-wikipedia-editors-behind-the-curtain/ Is the WMF is serious about honoring the copyright licenses Wikipedia's contributors work under, which require attribution, both technically and in spirit? Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my aversion to the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the Android app [1]. (...) [1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/29/wikipedia-nearby-beta/ and widely reported in the press. Apologies for the thread-split, but this is OT from the original thread. This blog post actually referred to the Mobile Web, where the feature continues to be available (without a map view): http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code -- one which by all accounts has been extremely well received. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. We are in the lucky position to now have a team of three full-time developers working on the app to make it continually better. You can see the most recent code changes here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/apps/android,n,z And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements So you can expect a pretty fast pace of change. The team prioritized features that were highly requested and popular among users. The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in further developing such geo-functionality. CCing Dan (PM for Apps) in case he wants to weigh in on the roadmap. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content. Pete, before making such strong public statements condemning our products, it might help to use them I'm using the most recent Mobile Web via Chrome on a recent version of Android, and the most recent version of the Android app in the Google Play app store. Perhaps there are newer versions of both somewhere in a pipeline somewhere, that address these concerns. I hope so. I don't think I did anything wrong, though, to be ignorant that the stuff currently being talked about is not yet live. And even if that is the case, it is disheartening to know that this lapsed between 2012 and 2014 without any notifications to those of us who participated in the Bugzilla tickets. Maybe that's past stuff not worth dredging up, but it doesn't exactly make me feel like my contributions or my time were valued. The impression is that my concerns were managed, not incorporated. Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
To your specific points: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org wrote: (like this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth). Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a contributor's User Page, where they might state things like their name, and what they like to work on? I went through about 4 clicks and gave up. On the apps it's accessible from the footer, and on the web view the link is given an extremely prominent place in the UI, at the top of all articles (the Last edited by.. line). IMO Last edited by does not indicate that there will be a list of all contributors. Did you do any user testing to see if people make that association? It sounds like a stretch, but I'd be interested to see relevant data. -Pete ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: To your specific points: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org wrote: (like this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth). Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a contributor's User Page, where they might state things like their name, and what they like to work on? I went through about 4 clicks and gave up. Two clicks from the mobile history page. Click on a diff, and then the userpage is linked in bright blue in the bottom left. Underneath that link is the user's total number of live edits, and you can thank a user for the edit with a button on the right. -- Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Product Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: To your specific points: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk mpinc...@wikimedia.org wrote: (like this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth). Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a contributor's User Page, where they might state things like their name, and what they like to work on? I went through about 4 clicks and gave up. Two clicks from the mobile history page. Click on a diff, and then the userpage is linked in bright blue in the bottom left. Underneath that link is the user's total number of live edits, and you can thank a user for the edit with a button on the right. My apologies, I misread you Pete. It's three clicks to talk to the user, four to get to the user page. -- Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Product Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF colleagues.) I did, though, spend some time testing the nearby feature in v1's beta - and demonstrating it when promoting the app to audiences outside the Wikipedia community. In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience and behaviour. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)
On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was updated. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal wasn't mentioned when the revamped app was announced by your WMF colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the nearby feature in v1's beta And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements I can't find the string near on that page. The nearby feature in the old app also relied on third party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in further developing such geo-functionality. Is this a blocker for the return of the nearby feature to the app? In splitting this thread and describing it as off topic, you've overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response to - your comment about change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience and behaviour. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
