Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: CIS-A2K's Train The Trainer Program

2013-09-18 Thread Nitika Tandon
Hello everyone,

First of all extremely sorry for the delayed response. It took us a little 
while to put this together.

We understand there were a lot of questions about the agenda of train the 
trainer program. We have put together a rough draft which we wanted to share 
with you all. [1] Just want to mention that this the very first draft and is 
open to any kind of changes. We will also write to each of the participants to 
know what aspects they'd like to cover and incorporate those in our sessions. 

We are happy to share that so far we have received significant number of 
applications from most active Indian language Wikimedia communities including 
Odia, Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil, Hindi, Sanskrit, Gujarati, Assamese, Kannada 
and more. It's good to know that the community sees value in our work and we 
would like to thank each applicant for applying for the program. We'll soon 
write to the candidates to communicate about their selection and finalize 
logistics. 

As you would see from the schedule final dates for the program are from 3rd - 
6th October.

If you have any further suggestions, comments or questions please feel free to 
write to us at a...@cis-india.org or drop a note on the program's talk page. [2]

Thanks
Nitika Tandon
Program Manager
Access to Knowledge
The Centre for Internet  Society

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjHXxJd1jwTedDlFUldWaTlKMl9NTGh3czhXeUFkZ0E#gid=0
[2] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Train_the_Trainer_Program


On 08-Sep-2013, at 5:48 PM, Vishnu T wrote:

 Hi Shyamal,
 
 Thanks for sharing the deck and for stating the importance of Information 
 literacy and research techniques.  Could not agree any more about their 
 importance. However, as you have rightly noted the focus is more on doing a 
 successful outreach. Would try to incorporate some of these skill set into 
 the program design.
 
 Best,
 Vishnu  
 
 
 On 7 September 2013 08:43, Shyamal L. lshya...@gmail.com wrote:
 I see that core editing related matters are included only in point 5 and 6. I 
 was recently examining some statistics related to BSNL dynamic IP addresses 
 since I quite frequently see a new message for me when I log in in the 
 morning on the en.wiki and the message turns out to be in almost all cases 
 warnings against poor editing, vandalism and so on. On some IP ranges, about 
 1-6% of all IP talk pages have warnings and an analysis shows that the most 
 common problem is poor sourcing, self-promotion and other forms of 
 advertising. 
 
 In my (limited) experience working with advanced students (MS + levels) on 
 Wikipedia editing, I have found it very useful to cover Information Literacy 
 and research techniques. Information Literacy skills are taught in very few 
 higher learning centres in India (I may be wrong though since such courses 
 were available to me both at undergrad and postgrad levels) I would suggest 
 that it is vital that people know about what research is and how sources are 
 evaluated. I also think there needs to be coverage of technical writing  
 (which includes reviewing literature, structuring, brevity, balance, avoiding 
 closed paraphrasing and plagiarism, inline citation with templates, citation 
 styles - Harvard, MLA, APA, use of bibliographic tools like Zotero )
 
 best wishes
 Shyamal
 PS: will check if i can find the slides that i use, only able to find my 
 internet research slides at the moment  
 http://www.slideshare.net/muscicapa/information-literacy-and-internet-use-for-entomologists
 
 1) Public Speaking and Engaging the audience
 2) Presentation Skill and Body language
 3) Basic Video editing skills
 4) Leveraging mainstream and social media
 5) Basics of Copyright and Creative Commons for Content Donation and
 Digitization
 6) Technical session on complexities of Indian Languages on Computers (or
 based on majority participants need)
 7) Wikimedia India Chapter - History and Present
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: CIS-A2K's Train The Trainer Program

2013-09-18 Thread sankarshan
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Nitika Tandon nit...@cis-india.org wrote:
 We understand there were a lot of questions about the agenda of train the
 trainer program. We have put together a rough draft which we wanted to share
 with you all. [1] Just want to mention that this the very first draft and is
 open to any kind of changes. We will also write to each of the participants
 to know what aspects they'd like to cover and incorporate those in our
 sessions.

Thank you for the link to the draft schedule. I have a somewhat
tangential query. I notice that you recommend ScanTailor
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scantailor/ for the participants. I
was wondering if it would be possible to share (later, if not now) an
estimate of accuracy of the software in post processing and handling
digitized content in Indian languages. Perhaps using random samples
from archive.org

And, as a suggestion, I would request that you put up
pre-participation reading material wherever possible. For example, the
sessions on Introduction to Unicode or, Fonts and Rendering would
require some prior knowledge of the subject matter and help the
resource person calibrate the proceedings accordingly.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: CIS-A2K's Train The Trainer Program

2013-09-18 Thread Pavanaja U B
ScanTailor is not a OCR. It has got nothing to do with Indian Languages.

Regards,
Pavanaja

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Sent: 18 September 2013 13:09
To: Wikimedia India Community list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: CIS-A2K's Train The Trainer 
Program

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Nitika Tandon nit...@cis-india.org wrote:
 We understand there were a lot of questions about the agenda of train 
 the trainer program. We have put together a rough draft which we 
 wanted to share with you all. [1] Just want to mention that this the 
 very first draft and is open to any kind of changes. We will also 
 write to each of the participants to know what aspects they'd like to 
 cover and incorporate those in our sessions.

Thank you for the link to the draft schedule. I have a somewhat tangential 
query. I notice that you recommend ScanTailor 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scantailor/ for the participants. I was 
wondering if it would be possible to share (later, if not now) an estimate of 
accuracy of the software in post processing and handling digitized content in 
Indian languages. Perhaps using random samples from archive.org

And, as a suggestion, I would request that you put up pre-participation reading 
material wherever possible. For example, the sessions on Introduction to 
Unicode or, Fonts and Rendering would require some prior knowledge of the 
subject matter and help the resource person calibrate the proceedings 
accordingly.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: CIS-A2K's Train The Trainer Program

2013-09-18 Thread sankarshan
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Pavanaja U B
pavan...@vishvakannada.com wrote:
 ScanTailor is not a OCR. It has got nothing to do with Indian Languages.

Indeed. I realized that it clearly mentions that Scanning, optical
character recognition, and assembling multi-page documents are out of
scope of this project. And, in that context, what is the use case in
which ScanTailor would be handy? The website states further states
that It performs operations such as page splitting, deskewing,
adding/removing borders, and others. From which I understand that is
a necessary step in the flow of actual_document - photograph/scan -
re-alignment. But that generates a digitized text. You do have to
retrieve information/text from that to be able to use it. Is that
something to be tackled later?


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: CIS-A2K's Train The Trainer Program

2013-09-18 Thread Pavanaja U B
 You do have to retrieve information/text from that to be able to use it. Is 
 that something to be tackled later?
Yes

Regards,
Pavanaja

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Sent: 18 September 2013 13:41
To: Wikimedia India Community list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: CIS-A2K's Train The Trainer 
Program

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Pavanaja U B pavan...@vishvakannada.com 
wrote:
 ScanTailor is not a OCR. It has got nothing to do with Indian Languages.

Indeed. I realized that it clearly mentions that Scanning, optical character 
recognition, and assembling multi-page documents are out of scope of this 
project. And, in that context, what is the use case in which ScanTailor would 
be handy? The website states further states that It performs operations such 
as page splitting, deskewing, adding/removing borders, and others. From which 
I understand that is a necessary step in the flow of actual_document - 
photograph/scan - re-alignment. But that generates a digitized text. You do 
have to retrieve information/text from that to be able to use it. Is that 
something to be tackled later?


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https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] German University of Tubingen partners with Malayalam Wikipedians to digitize the works of Herman Gundert.

2013-09-18 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Hi,br/br/Per Shiju's post on his blog, the rest of the scans would be 
available only after the collection is scanned. This is expected to take 10 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] German University of Tubingen partners with Malayalam Wikipedians to digitize the works of Herman Gundert.

2013-09-18 Thread manoj k
This Programs is the Announcement Of the Gundert Legacy Digitization
Project of Tubingen university and Partnership With Malayalam Wikisource.

We just done a Prototype model model that what we are doing in this
project. Tubingen university Scaned the Book (Orayiram pazhamchol (1850) -
Hermann Gundert) and published as in public domain.

Check the index page സൂചിക:Orayiram pazhamchol CiXIV39 Tubingen Gundert
Collection.pdfhttps://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%82%E0%B4%9A%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95:Orayiram_pazhamchol_CiXIV39_Tubingen_Gundert_Collection.pdf
This book is typed by school students of some government public shcool
apart of their it@school Extracurricular activity. The Participants names
are in book's talk page
https://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%82%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A6%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%92%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%86%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82_%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%B4%E0%B4%9E%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9A%E0%B5%8A%E0%B5%BD.


After the Unicode encoding,next beautifully typesetted in Tex for generate
PDF and EPub Versions with the Help of Sayahna
Foundationhttp://sayahna.org/.The
output books  are available here
pdfhttp://books.sayahna.org/ml/pdf/orayiram.pdf
epub http://books.sayahna.org/ml/epub/orayiram.epub

The Press Meet Program related to this Project was held in Press Academy,
Ernakulam on Sept 12, 2013
Photos are available here
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Gundert_Legacy_Project

Shiju or Viswettan can Explain more :)

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Per Shiju's post on his blog, the rest of the scans would be available
 only after the collection is scanned. This is expected to take 10 months.

 Pradeep

 Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] German University of Tubingen partners with Malayalam Wikipedians to digitize the works of Herman Gundert.

2013-09-18 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Very good effort! Well worth the trouble taken! My congrats to all
concerned.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM, manoj k manojkmohanme03...@gmail.comwrote:

 This Programs is the Announcement Of the Gundert Legacy Digitization
 Project of Tubingen university and Partnership With Malayalam Wikisource.

 We just done a Prototype model model that what we are doing in this
 project. Tubingen university Scaned the Book (Orayiram pazhamchol (1850) -
 Hermann Gundert) and published as in public domain.

 Check the index page സൂചിക:Orayiram pazhamchol CiXIV39 Tubingen Gundert
 Collection.pdfhttps://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%82%E0%B4%9A%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95:Orayiram_pazhamchol_CiXIV39_Tubingen_Gundert_Collection.pdf
 This book is typed by school students of some government public shcool
 apart of their it@school Extracurricular activity. The Participants names
 are in book's talk page
 https://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%82%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A6%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%92%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%86%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82_%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%B4%E0%B4%9E%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9A%E0%B5%8A%E0%B5%BD.


 After the Unicode encoding,next beautifully typesetted in Tex for generate
 PDF and EPub Versions with the Help of Sayahna 
 Foundationhttp://sayahna.org/.The
 output books  are available here   
 pdfhttp://books.sayahna.org/ml/pdf/orayiram.pdf
 epub http://books.sayahna.org/ml/epub/orayiram.epub

 The Press Meet Program related to this Project was held in Press Academy,
 Ernakulam on Sept 12, 2013
 Photos are available here
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Gundert_Legacy_Project

 Shiju or Viswettan can Explain more :)

 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Pradeep Mohandas prad2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Per Shiju's post on his blog, the rest of the scans would be available
 only after the collection is scanned. This is expected to take 10 months.

 Pradeep

 Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone


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