[WikimediaIndia-l] Re: Community engagement request at WP:MOS/India-related articles

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Indian courts (and the laws) have clearly stated that names of such victims
are not to be displayed anywhere publicly.
If you think wikipedia is larger than the courts, please continue the
discussion.
Or else stop wasting everybody's time and resources on discussing this .
Just follow court orders/guidelines/whatever.

Regards


On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:49 PM iMahesh  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I wanted to follow up on the recent discussions regarding the consensus
> reached at Talk:2024_Kolkata_rape_and_murder#RfC:_Name_of_victim to avoid
> naming the victim
> .
> While the conversation began with promise, users on discussion page have
> noted a lack of participation from the Indian community. As pointed out by
> some, silence in discussions does not imply community consent, and your
> input is crucial for shaping guidelines that reflect our cultural and legal
> contexts.
>
> The consensus to avoid naming victims has already been established, and
> the guideline was furnished a month ago. Now, we simply need to incorporate
> it into the Manual of Style. For that to happen, we need to demonstrate our
> support in writing at the talk page linked. I encourage all interested
> users to share their thoughts on the Wikipedia talk page for Manual of
> Style/India-related articles
> .
> Your contributions will help create a comprehensive and culturally
> sensitive policy moving forward.
>
>
> Regards,
> *I.Mahesh*
> Architect I Photographer
> Wikipedia: User:I.Mahesh 
> Contact: +91 9000223847
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 3:06 PM iMahesh  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Regarding the recent discussions at
>> Talk:2024_Kolkata_rape_and_murder#RfC:_Name_of_victim
>> ,
>> a consensus has been reached to avoid naming the victim on the page.
>> Following this discussion, a new topic has been opened at Wikipedia talk
>> of Style/India-related articles
>> 
>> to create a guideline that rules out naming victims based on specified
>> criteria.
>>
>> However, progress cannot proceed further because there was no
>> participation from the Indian community, although the discussion was opened
>> on 21st september, and even after a request was made on the WikiProject
>> India Noticeboard
>> .
>> Inputs from interested users are encouraged so that rules and regulations
>> can be drafted in the WIkipedia's Manual of Style, considering cultural
>> norms within our country.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> *I.Mahesh*
>> Architect I Photographer
>> Wikipedia: User:I.Mahesh 
>> Contact: +91 9000223847
>>
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[WikimediaIndia-l] Re: Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] New updates to the Conference and Event Fund program

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

And I hope the secrecy level will be reduced considerably.

Whatever that last conference happened in Hyderabad, the venue was not
disclosed!!! Participants and other details remaining nowhere in the
picture!!


And obvious reasons, this message will not get any response from any of the
staffers!!   :-)

Keep wikiiing !!


On Thu, 19 Sept, 2024, 12:00 am Chinmayee Mishra, 
wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Chen Almog 
> Date: Wed, 18 Sept, 2024, 9:57 pm
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New updates to the Conference and Event Fund program
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Dear Wikimedians,
>
>
> In the past year we have witnessed some changes in the way we gather as a
> movement. We have also heard from communities about the growing needs and
> the desire for more in advance planning, flexibility and resources beyond
> funding.
>
> As a result, beginning in September 2024, *the Conference and Event Fund
> program will introduce 3 updates and changes* regarding:
>
>
>1.
>
>A more predictable cadence of conferences to allow for pPredetermined
>timeline and long term planning;
>2.
>
>The submission and planning process for Regional events, focusing on
>community led decision making process for Regional gatherings;
>3.
>
>And a new Wikimedia Foundation structured support system and
>additional offered areas of support.
>
>
>
> == Predictable cadence and 3 years pre-approved funding plan ==
>
>
> The Conference Fund program is now introducing a new funding pathway and
> allowing regional event organizers to submit their conference proposals up
> to 3 years in advance. We are now accepting submissions for the Fiscal
> Years 2025-2026; 2026-2027; 2027-2028. If you are interested in only
> applying for the coming year, please follow the standard timeline[1] and
> submission process.
>
> Interested communities do not necessarily need to have a venue selected,
> contracts drafted or sponsors lined up. The Wikimedia Foundation staff are
> here to help you!
>
> If a Wikimedia affiliate, group or community in a region [2] is
> interested in hosting the regional event, please express interest by
> submitting an entry [3] and placing it under the category.
>
> Please make sure to read carefully through the criteria and pay special
> attention to the requirement for a public evidence of a community
> agreement/alignment/decision on the hosting location/affiliate.
>
> == Community-led decision mechanism ==
>
> Continuing with our ambition to bring our regional communities closer to
> the regional decision making process, we would like to work more on
> enhancing regional connections and alignment, by asking that decisions on
> hosting countries/affiliates will be made collaboratively within regional
> communities. Starting September 2024, as part of the reviewing process, and
> in order to be eligible to a 3 year in advance approval, we will ask that
> as part of the proposal, you will submit a public evidence of a community
> agreement/alignment/decision on the hosting location/affiliate. This can be
> presented and facilitated as a public community discussion; a vote; a
> ‘bidding process’ ; a village pump discussion or steering committee/hub’s
> decision, and can be conducted in any language. If you do not currently
> have a regional hub, a steering committee or any other form of regional
> leadership structure, and would like our help in facilitating such a
> decision, please reach out to us.
>
>
> == Structured WMF support system with additional offerings ==
>
> We know that organizing a community led conference requires a lot of time,
> effort and resources – far beyond funding. That is why we will start
> incorporating a more holistic support system for organizers, by Wikimedia
> Foundation’s regional and programmatic teams.
>
> Some of the additional support offered to regional event organizers will
> include Communication support; Travel arrangements; Partnership support
> etc.
>
>
> Please review the full update and details here.[4]
>
> If you have any questions or need support in understanding the changes,
> please reach out to us at conferencegra...@wikimedia.org
>
>
> Chen Almog, on behalf of the Conference and Event Fund program team.
>
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference#Timeline
>
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Regions
>
> [3]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Expressions_of_Interests_for_Regional_Conferences#Create_expression_of_interest_for_regional_conferences
>
>
> [4]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Updates/September_2024
>
> --
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[WikimediaIndia-l] Re: Court Verdict on Wikipedia

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Subhashish,


Good to see your declaration about writing in personal capacity and not as
any wmf person. Earlier, that disclaimer used to the first line in any mail
by any wmf person.

I have just one line about you in my earlier message and that too about the
unusual contradictory behaviour as a wikipedian. Not sure why you take it
so personally.


Well, as of now,  I have not read any article that you have mentioned. ANI
or opindia or other reports you mentioned.

If the quote about ANI is there in the article, I think it's not online
with the Wikipedia policy of remaining unbiased and not giving opinions.
Not sure why other senior editors has kept it in the article and not
objected about it.

And if that line is still there in the article, I suppose ANI has every
right to go to the court and file a case against Wikipedia.

And if the court has accepted the case, that means it makes some sense.

The main discussion here is about the court case and response (rather lack
of it) by Wikipedia/wmf/whoever is representing them.

Earlier, we have seen so many responses on simple, non relevant topics by
wmf staffers. Why in this important case, there is no stand taken or there
is no public response by any staffer? That's the main point and Wikipedians
are worried about it. Others are in a confused state and taking the left
winger/right winger kind of opinions personally and getting hurt by it.


So, let's keep the discussion to the court case and response by wmf
staffers. More it goes in other direction, more harmful to everyone here.


Regards
Sudhanwa


On Tue, 10 Sept, 2024, 5:07 pm Subhashish,  wrote:

> Thank you, Tasleemah!
>
> Jayantilal, please refrain from assuming that I have taken asylum in
> Canada. Please stop attacking personally another Wikimedian and digging up
> their personal lives. Stay on the subject, not people you don't agree with.
> People ought to disagree on their stands on a subject. That neither makes
> them enemies or requires personal attack.
>
> Everything I'm writing here is in my personal capacity and is purely about
> this issue, rather than any individual. Sudhanwa, Yohann and you are
> members of this community, and I have nothing against you, though you and
> Sudhanwa have sadly chosen to personally attack me rather than discussing
> the issue at hand.
>
> I'm sure you've read the Wikipedia article lede about OpIndia that says,
> "OpIndia is an Indian right-wing news website known for frequently
> publishing misinformation.". And yet you choose to call their post a
> "report" and attack me personally.
>
> Secondly, the ANI Wikipedia entry says:
>
> 'Long-form reports by The Caravan and The Ken, along with reports by other
> media watchdogs have detailed how the agency has served as a propaganda
> tool of the incumbent government."
>
> What's very clear is that the Wikipedia entry merely cites prior reports
> published and available publicly. Wikipedia does is *NOT* a primary source
> of information. Anyone who has made any serious Wikipedia edits, would know
> that already.
>
> Mishi Choudhary, a renowned lawyer and free software advocate has written
> about this in her recent tweet:
>
>
> https://x.com/MishiChoudhary/status/1832527564541186071?t=rmQdJUUag5GK2NhYp3fwdA&s=19
>
>
> Lastly, the Wikimedia community is not responsible for what's published in
> the Ken and the Caravan reports. I haven't personally edited the ANI
> article, but would assume good faith that the Wikipedians who have
> contributed to the same have summarized news reports and cited those
> reports. That to me is how Wikipedia articles are written. Since Wikimedia
> Foundation manages the Wikipedia servers, the honourable court must have
> summoned them. Jayantilal, you chose to ignore the Trust and Safety contact
> I shared but it would valuable to reach out to them and inform about your
> worries. They are good people and are trained to handle community safety
> and security-related issues. In my last email I merely pointed out that WMF
> staffers that are not a part of the T&S team wouldn't know the best
> recourse. I don't know much what's happening with WCI but that's unrelated
> and I wouldn't assume that any professional doing their job is oblivious to
> a real issue and is focusing on an event.
>
>  That said, the issue is real and need WMF's attention. Ad hominem is the
> last way to solve it.
>
> Subhashish
> On Tue, 10 Sept, 2024, 2:35 am abdulkareem tesleemah, <
> abdulte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have also reached out to the chair of the WMF BoT, I don't know if it
>> that will help speed up the process from the legal end.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tesleemah.
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Sept 2024, 07:09 abdulkareem tesleemah, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This article released by opindia is flawed in all angles. Continually
>>> dragging editors is the highest of it and using the openness of the
>>> community against it, or how many community can you access that much
>>> information? This is a propaganda and a backla

[WikimediaIndia-l] Re: Court Verdict on Wikipedia

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

It seems that you have some information about the court case. Please share
the same with us. eg. who is representing WMF in the case.

Looks like you have a bias about the news site already !! Very much
contradictory to a normal Wiki editor !!
If the court has accepted the case and asked for details from WMF about it,
WMF should comply with it. I doubt that the court considers the applicant
as a propaganda news site. If there was some malicious interest in the
case, courts would have rejected it immediately.
I believe the court knows about individuals' privacy and their fundamental
rights and the constitution. We don't have to comment about it here.

If WMF can comply with the orders in Germany, what is the problem in
complying with courts in India?
Probably there is a bias by WMF between western developed countries  and
India!!

I suppose there was another case about the maps also. Not sure if that is
still going on or closed by now.
(And about the funding from India? Where does the money go and how?? Not
sure about this...)

This is yet another example when WMF (or the staff or the representative
organisations) does not speak up !!

Hoping to get some formal reply from WMF !!

Regards
Sudhanwa



On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 1:05 AM Subhashish  wrote:

> Dear Jayantilal,
>
> Let's call a spade a spade -- the court case is filed by a propaganda news
> site that wants names of Wikimedians when it's a clear violation of their
> privacy, a fundamental right guaranteed to every citizen by the
> constitution.
>
> Asking any staffer (there are over 700 of them) is never useful when WMF
> has a dedicated Trust and Safety team (
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Legal/Community_Resilience_and_Sustainability/Trust_and_Safety).
> *Have you written to them asking specific questions?*
>
> I'm going to assume that WMF's counsels are looking into this seriously as
> they constantly monitor such issues and this is discussed on many national
> media in India. I really wonder how writing to WMF via a bunch ot community
> mailing lists, that's completely managed by volunteer Wikimedians, would
> help. At best, this is sensationalist. Also, can any WMF staffer who is not
> directly a part of T&S or legal team know answers to legal and safety
> questions?
> Subhashish
>
> On Fri, 6 Sept, 2024, 3:09 pm Jayantilal Kothari, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am sure most of you have already read Delhi Court comments on
>> Wikipedia.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ani-wikipedia-defamation-case-if-you-dont-like-india-delhi-high-courts-tough-talk-for-wikipedia-6496462/amp/1
>>
>> As a long time editor most of us don't like such things. We do edits
>> based on referencing and not personal interest. There are pages on other
>> language Wikipedia which are biased but not English.
>>
>> Even if someone tries to do it some other editor gets it corrected. Now
>> as a Wikipedian I want to know what steps are staff members taking.
>> There are so many staff members in India never in history but no one is
>> replying.
>>
>> I have personally tried asking two of them. One person said he does not
>> look into it while others told me she is more interested in doing
>> WikiConference India 2025. Someone from staff please reply to this present
>> situation and inform the volunteers on what steps you are taking.
>>
>> Please don't treat Indian Courts lightly.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jayantilal
>>
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[WikimediaIndia-l] Re: Announcing Wiki Loves Muslim Academia 2024

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 3:35 PM Arvind Menon  wrote:

Religion Work on Wiki?
>

You might be considering this in this context.

Deoband Community is funded by CIS

https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deoband_Community_Wikimedia

:-(





> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 15:25, The Aafi  wrote:
>
>> Greetings everyone,
>>
>> I am delighted to announce the first edition of *"Wiki Loves Muslim
>> Academia ",*
>> a new Wiki Loves Campaign, which aims to help document knowledge related
>> to global Muslim academia across Wikipedia projects.
>>
>> For the first edition, *Wiki Loves Muslim Academia 2024*
>> , we
>> limit ourselves to organising the campaign on Indic-language Wikis and the
>> English Wikipedia only, to take better care of on-wiki policies subject to
>> absence of a lot of helping people and teams.
>>
>> We have compiled a set of instructions and other pages on the Meta-Wiki
>> and look forward to seeing Indian volunteers *contribute between 15
>> January and 16 February 2024! *The scope of the campaign has been
>> highlighted on this page
>> .
>>
>> Should you have any questions, please let me know.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Aafi
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[WikimediaIndia-l] Re: Invitation for Wiki contests and fellowship by The Heritage Lab

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

I am wondering what kind of heritage these people are building in heritage
labs!!

Even the theme says post colonial India!!

Looks like they have nothing to do with our history, culture, heritage of
thousands of years.

Probably, they still want to remain in the colonial India heritage. That
can't even say post independence  activities.


Shameful.
And Wikipedia is supporting it in the name of spreading knowledge!!





On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 8:22 AM Satdeep Gill  wrote:

> *Forwarding the following message on behalf of Arunesh Varade, The
> Heritage Lab*
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> The Heritage Lab  is
> organizing two Wiki contests
> 
>  in
> the month of November on the occasion of World Heritage Week and Wiki Asian
> Month.
>
> First contest is an edit-a-thon where open access content from GLAMs would
> be uploaded on Wikimedia Commons with relevant data to improve the
> accessibility of these images.
>
> The second contest is where people can share the stories of visiting
> museums. It can be a photo essay, illustration, etc. The submissions in
> this contest will be uploaded on Commons and the best entries from them
> will be rewarded.
>
> We have exciting prizes for the winners so we look forward to your active
> participation in both these events.
>
> Further, we have also opened applications for the second edition of Open
> Knowledge Fellowship
>  where we
> host a cohort of fellows to research and create new knowledge about Indian
> art and cultural heritage and contribute the same to Wikimedia projects.
>
> Please pass on the word to the people who would be interested in being a
> part of this.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Arunesh Varade
> on behalf of The Heritage Lab
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Re: Wikiconference India 2023 -what's happening?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

WOW!!

I completely agree with Pavanja !!

Looks like this conference is some kind of secret mission!!

There is hardly any activity about it on the mailing list or even on wiki.

For no reason, secrecy is seen everywhere eg. Check the team page.


Asaf says, ad hoc attendance is discouraged. But without any disclosure of
the venue, such attendance is not going to happen at all !!

Where is the openness and trust that exist on Wikipedia reflected in the
conference??

Or possibly that 90+ lakhs budget amount is to be spent secretly !!

Ironically the theme of the conference is "Strengthening bonds" !! Looks
like there are very secret bonds to be developed there !!


Anyways, all the best wishes to the conference!!

Well, I was thinking of sending some press release to the media. Nothing
available about it on the conference website.

Regards
Sudhanwa



On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 12:29 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hi, Pavanaja.
>
> As the conference FAQ page[1] mentions, there will be no streaming, and
> walk-in ad hoc attendance is discouraged.
>
> Folks who have registered have received all the information.
>
> As for documentation by participants, I'm sure that will begin to show up
> once the conference proper begins (tomorrow morning).
>
>A.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2023/FAQ
>
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, 20:33  wrote:
>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>>
>> Wkiconference India 2023 starts tomorrow. The home page is here -
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2023
>>
>> I have many questions –
>>
>>- Where the event is happening?
>>- If someone just wants to walk-in, where he/she should go?
>>- Sessions are listed. But no details. There could have been link to
>>the submissions so that we can know what are the details
>>- No mention of links to online streaming. No live streaming?
>>
>>
>>
>> I just observed something peculiar about this event. Most details, for
>> ex., venue, are kept as secret. What is the necessity to do so? When I
>> travel to such events, I start posting in social media (FB, Insta, Twitter,
>> Whatsapp status) about the event, start posting photos from airport itself
>> till end of event. So far I did not see a single post about the event, the
>> venue, the goodies, the sessions, etc. What’s going on? Whether the
>> organisers have put a ban on such activities? If that is the case, then it
>> is totally against the philosophy of free knowledge and open society.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am just wondering. I am sure many more also will be wondering.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Pavanaja
>>
>>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Re: We are looking for Trainers to Conduct pre training sessions for Wikimedia Hackathon

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

All the tools/applications mentioned are free/open source softwares.
However, there is no mention of Foss concepts. I suppose it is very much
essential as there is lot of confusion in the concepts.

I can take up a session on Foss fundamentals, licensing etc.

Regards
Sudhanwa



On Wed, Jul 6, 2022, 9:22 AM Kaśyap కశ్యప్  wrote:

>
> *Hi,*
>
>
>
> Greetings from IndicWiki project by IIIT-H, We are happy to announce that
> the Wikimedia Technology Summit 2022, This conference is free and open to
> the public, event will be in a hybrid mode on 2nd and 3rd of December 2022.
>
>
>
> In this regard, we are planning to conduct a Hackathon before the summit,
> The challenge for this Hackathon is to find solutions to the Wikimedia
> Community Wishlist!
>
>
>
> We understand that most of the general technical communities in India are
> not familiar with Wikipedia technology, to address this issue and improve
> the effectiveness of Hackathon, we are planning to conduct a series of free
> WikiTech Training programs for technology enthusiasts, technical
> communities.
>
>
>
> *We would like to invite experts like you from the Wiki technology
> community to conduct the 90 min online Training sessions,  to train
> volunteers  on any Saturday from 7-8:30 pm on Zoom in August / September
> /October 2022. *
>
>
> If you are interested to conduct the training sessions to participants, we
> are requesting you to provide details at this form
>  to register as Trainer
> https://forms.gle/fNupuKbeBUfLxfJa8
>
>
> The object of these training programs is to promoting the use of various
> software resources that extend content contributors and consumers
> capabilities and insights beyond those provided by the core Wikimedia
> experience.For more details about this training sessions and tentative
> program, please visit: Hackathon Training Structure
> 
>
>
>
> Please feel free to contact me if you need any more information.
>
>
>
> Cordially
>
> Kasyap
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fundraising in India - Launched

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Here is some note by Amit Abhyankar on Facebook. There are similar comments
on this post.
-
I guess most of us have received this message when accessing Wikipedia.
While there is nothing wrong in asking for donations, I didn't like the
tone of this appeal.
The way it says 'reader in India' and 'This is the 6th appeal' doesn't
sound right to me... Not sure why... but it just doesn't.
I mean, we have not entered into a contract that says we will donate
whenever you need us to... Then what's with counting the number of times
this appeal has been shown?
I ofcourse support Wiki as a movement, have donated in the past and will
donate again in future... But how about telling us how much money you need
and a live tracker that shows how much of the goal has been achieved?
Transperency is the key to running a movement.


If a common person gets such feeling from the fundraiser banner, the
thought arises about what kind of survey/study is made by WMF before
pushing this to the users.

btw,

Someone pinged me to ask if I know anyone of mailing list admins as his/her
mails were not reaching to the mailing list. Dont know if there is any
problem. (was using a nickname)
More interesting was what he/she mentioned about the fundraiser. The QR
code mentions "to pay" some company from Delhi that is not so old and has
just Rs. 1 lakh capital !! I havent got time to get into these things but
if this is true, I suppose WMF study/research/selection of partner is
questionable.

I hope WMF people will respond to this.

Regards,
-Sudhanwa


On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:03 PM Joseph Seddon 
wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> It makes me very happy to announce we have at last launched our fundraiser
> in India :) This has been a huge effort and I want to thank the community
> members who have passed on feedback, tested our infrastructure, forwarded
> tweets and news stories, and just generally been amazingly supportive :)
>
> Like our other fundraising campaigns this will run for around 4 weeks. If
> you are regularly seeing banners, I recommend you log in to your wikimedia
> accounts on wiki. We don't show banners to logged in users so as to not
> disrupt their work.
>
> As before:
>
> * If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a
> phabricator ticket [https://phabricator.wikimedia
> .org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?template=118862].
> * If you see a donor on a talk page, OTRS or social media having
> difficulties in donating, please refer them to don...@wikimedia.org.
> * If you have specific ideas to share, please feel invited to add them to
> our fundraising ideas page [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki
> /Fundraising/2019-20_Fundraising_ideas].
>
> You can also contact me directly with my email address
> sed...@wikimedia.org and I can forward your feedback to the right person
> on the team.
>
> Thank you everyone!
>
> --
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>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Netha wins 2020 RedHat Women in Open Source Award!

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Congratulations Dr. Netha !!

And thanks Subha for the update !!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 8:48 PM Subhashish  wrote:

> Hope everyone is keeping safe and well in a difficult time like now. There
> is a good news - Netha Hussain has won the 2020 RedHat Women in Open Source
> Award. [1][2]
>
> Congratulations Netha - this is such a proud moment for all of us!
>
> Also, see WikiProject COVID-19, where Netha is a leader, for those who are
> interested to contribute on coronavirus-related articles:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_COVID-19
>
> 1. https://www.redhat.com/en/about/women-in-open-source
> 2. https://twitter.com/Wikimedia/status/1255513602951430145
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Making of a ScanBox - DIY Scanner

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Thats a nice design.
Reminded me of another one shared long time back by a senior wikipedian
Shymal. Here it is:
https://www.instructables.com/id/Copy-Stand-Cheap-and-easy-to-build/

That has a SLR camera. That can be easily replaced with a mobile phone.
Worth trying out.
Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:53 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Shrini,
>
> This is awesome and cost-effective. We will try to build one after the
> lockdown ends in West Bengal for our user group. Thanks for building this,
> thoroughly documenting and sharing.
>
> Take care,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 12:39, subodh kulkarni 
> wrote:
>
>> Great Innovation!
>> Congrats to Shrini and team.
>> This can be replicated on large scale using Fablabs like one at Vigyan
>> Ashram, Pabal -
>> http://vigyanashram.com/InnerPages/TechnologyByCategory.aspx?TCategory=FABLAB
>>
>> Vigyan Ashram is CIS-A2K's institutional partner involved in many
>> Wikimedia activities. Let us explore further collaboration regarding this.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Subodh Kulkarni
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:30 PM Tito Dutta  wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent Shrini, thanks for sharing step by step details. Regards.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 11:08 AM Shrinivasan T 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 Recently, we have built a custom scan box to scan books.


 With this box and a smartphone, we can scan books easily.

 Wrote about it here

 https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2020/04/20/making-of-kaniyam-scanbox-diy-scanner/


 Comment there If you are interested in volunteering for scanning or
 post processing using scantailor.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2020: Initial conversations

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

IRC date mentioned is 20 August. It should be October I suppose.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 10:32 PM pavan santhosh 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> We have a few updates regarding the WikiConference India 2020 proposal for
> Hyderabad. Firstly, we are happy to share the news that there has been a
> very good positive response from individual Wikimedians
> [1].
> Also there have community-wide discussions on local Village Pumps on
> various languages. Several of these discussions have reached consensus
> [2],
> and are supporting this idea.
>
> We will be engaging with more communities this week, and clear any
> concerns/doubts people may have during this week. Also to wrap up these
> discussions and conclude, we would like to call for IRC.
>
> Details of IRC:
>
> Timings and Date: 6:00 pm on 20 August 2019
>
> Website: https://webchat.freenode.net/
>
> Channel: #wci
>
> Looking forward for all your active participation. Hope you all have a
> great week ahead.
>
> Thanks & Rewards,
>
> Pavan.
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2020:_Initial_conversations#Individual_Wikimedians
>
> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2020:_Initial_conversations#Community_endorsements
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 11:45 PM pavan santhosh 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> We would like to thank everyone who have shown their interest by
>> providing support or initiating discussions on the Meta-Wiki page, or in
>> this thread.
>>
>> It is indeed thrilling to see a lot of support, interest and enthusiasm
>> in Indian Wikimedians about this proposal for Wiki Conference India 2020.
>> We will continue to engage in the talk page with the ideas and issues
>> floated about this proposal as we have already mentioned in initial mail:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2020:_Initial_conversations
>> .
>>
>> If any of the communities would like to endorse the proposal as a
>> community, it would be great to see such a support. Please do it at the
>> earliest possible, latest by 18th. This will help us to speed up the
>> process, if there are any other comments, please direct them to the talk
>> page[1]
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>>
>> Pavan Santhosh & Krishna Chaitanya
>>
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2020:_Initial_conversations
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 5:09 PM Ashwin Baindur 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is with regards to the suggestion that the proposed forthcoming
>>> WikiConference, be a SAARC event, which was given by Abhinav Shrivastava.
>>>
>>> That is definitely a good idea, but not now in place of a national level
>>> conference pertaining to and focussing primarily on our country.
>>>
>>> The foci of a national conference and an international conference are
>>> completely different. So, that conference definitely needs to be arranged
>>> but not here, not now.
>>>
>>> A second reason is that due to the geopolitics being such, there have
>>> been cases of candidates being invited to participate in the conferences in
>>> India and visas not being granted. There seems to be no way around this at
>>> present.
>>>
>>> Thirdly, Indian issues, by virtue of our numbers of communities, size
>>> and complexities, would totally drown out the regional combined interests
>>> and the individual interests of foreign communities. So, the SAARC
>>> Conference should have Indian representation but as a participant
>>> proportionally the same as each other SAARC country, not dominating vide
>>> our size, sophistication and reach.
>>>
>>> For that and other reasons, it may be appropriate for SAARC
>>> WikiConference to be held in another country or if it is to be held in
>>> India, then a year or two down the line after WikiConference India.
>>>
>>> Of course, Wikimedian representatives of SAARC communities are welcome
>>> to attend our proposed national conference as usual.
>>>
>>> Let that SAARC Conference be planned and worked on by Abhinav for
>>> subsequent implementation, since he has mooted this on behalf of Chapter.
>>>
>>> However, that idea needs to be sounded out first on the international
>>> list to give notice to the communities of those countries.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 2:39 PM Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
>>>
 Happy Gandhi Jayanti to you and all!

 Very pleased to see WCI being organised again, as they say, better late
 than never. Thanks Telugu wiki community for taking lead. I will love to
 help remotely as much as I can and will hope to be able to attend it as
 well.

 Kind Regards,
 Dhaval

 On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 05:06 pavan santhosh, 
 wrote:

> Dear Fellow Wikimedians, Happy Gandhi Jayanti!
>
>
> Hope all of you are doing well. I am writing this email t

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Santhosh Thottingal wins the President's Maharshi Badrayan Vyas Samman for 2019

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

That's a great news !! Santosh really deserves this !! Congratulations !!


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 10:27 PM manoj k  wrote:

> Santhosh Thottingal
> 
> has won the Maharshi Badrayan Vyas Samman by the Hon. President of India
> .
> This is in recognition of his substantial contribution in the field of
> Malayalam language. The award, instituted in 2016, is given to the
> substantial contributions to languages such as Sanskrit, Persian, Arabi,
> Pali and Classical Oriya, Classical Kannada, Classical Telugu, and
> Classical Malayalam. This is given to young scholars in the age group of
> 30 to 45 years
> .
> The Presidential award carries a certificate of honor, a memento and a
> one-time cash prize of Rs.1 lakh.
>
> Santhosh is one of the most active contributors of Swathanthra Malayalam
> Computing and a principal engineer in Wikipedia's language computing
> department. He has designed and released several algorithms and tools that
> serve computing needs in many Indian languages including Malayalam. He
> heads the maintenance of a dozen or so of the popular Malayalam fonts.
> Santhosh (along Kavya) designed two of these fonts, Chilanka and Manjari
> .
> He has contributed
> 
> tools that serve a broad range of language computing needs - input tools,
> layout tools, fonts, font rendering, text to speech, translation,
> localization are just a few of these areas. He has also contributed and
> presented papers at several international conferences.
>
> Dr. Rajeev R. R from the e-governance and training department of ICFOSS
> has also been selected for this award along with Santhosh.
>
> We hope this award inspires Santhosh and Rajeev to push the boundaries of
> Language computing.
>
>
> https://blog.smc.org.in/santhosh-thottingal-wins-the-presidents-maharshi-badrayan-vyas-samman-for-2019/
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Support for our communities across India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,
I have replied on the thread on meta. Copying that content here for
reference:
Anirudh has already mentioned most of the points I also wanted to say.
(Check here:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2019-July/014215.html)
I will add a few more things here. WMF is very very keen on all kinds of
legal compliance. The recent example is the "Germany court order".
Surprisingly, possibly for the first time in Wikipedia history, all the
relevent content was WIPED out from Wikipedia within a day of the court
order where only one person was affected by the content. Compared to that,
here in India, FCRA issue is affecting thousands of organisations in a
serious way and AFFCOM is still not able to understand the FCRA compliance
issue. (Maybe, compared to Indian languages, German language is better
understood by concerned people!!)By the way, What was the support given by
WMF/AFFCOM to WMIN in the FCRA matters? Have they provided any consultant
or legal help to WMIN. Or even some high level contacts in the concerned
Government office to put up our case further.It will also be interesting to
know if by any chance, CIS looses FCRA, (I sincerely wish that does not
happen anytime) AFFCOM/WMF will remove their affiliation? Read the WMF news
article here:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/04/11/a-german-court-forced-us-to-remove-part-of-a-wikipedia-articles-history-heres-what-that-means/
Indian
Wikipedian community is very very keen on expenditure, especially wherever
they feel that some wrong expenditure is made (not just by Indian
organisation but even when WMF money is spent) They become very very
concerned about it and become very vocal. Mail thread goes on for months
asking for justificaiton of such expenditure.(eg. check here:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2018-July/013400.html)
Hardly anyone from WMF/AFFCOM comment on it. Compared to that, when India
chapter is not spending any money and doing all zero budget activities,
what could be the problem with it for the community or AFFCOM or WMF.
Actually they should appriciate and should be happy about saving lots of
money and still doing activities. The closure of India chapter topic comes
up again and again and some lengthy discussions happen on it. I am
referring to one such mail thread a few years back and specificaly want WMF
people to read my comment that time in a reply to Gerard Meijssen. Please
check it out here:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-September/011563.html
Now
that AFFCOM is showing so much concern about the India activities, it will
be better if they can tell us (the stake holders in this- Indian
Wikipedians, volunteers, current and past WMIN EC members and general WMIN
members) the comparision of performance of affiliates in India namely WMIN
and CIS-A2K. What is the expenditure on various activities, paid staff etc
etc. And give us a clear understanding of where the real objection is. I
suppose this should be with reference to the contract between WMF and WMIN.
I read the contract document again some time back and could hardly see any
possible serious violation of the contract that AFFCOM is referring to.
Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 5:13 PM Anirudh S. Bhati 
wrote:

> For now I am not going to get into other issues, but would like to get
> clarification on the following:
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 6:20 PM Chris Koerner 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wikimedia India was first recognized as a chapter in 2011. In 2015, it
>> experienced difficulties meeting chapter agreement obligations.
>> Working with the Affiliations Committee and the Foundation, the
>> chapter developed a plan of action and returned to good standing by
>> 2017. However, between 2017 and 2019
>>
>>
>> *the chapter was unable to secure a license to act as a fiduciary
>> organization, and is not currently legally registered as a charity in India
>> to accept funding from the Foundation*. The Foundation and Affiliations
>> Committee both hope that
>> this licensing and registration can be secured, and that the chapter
>> will again be eligible for recognition.
>>
>
> AFAIK, the Wikimedia Chapter (Wikimedia India) *is* registered as a
> charitable society under the Karnataka Societies Registration Act.
> Therefore, it *is* a fiduciary organization acting in public interest.  I
> would like to hear a clarification on your claims above.
>
> Further, my understanding is that the Chapter has been unable to
> renew/secure its permissions under the Foreign Contribution (Regulation)
> Act, which prevents it from receiving funds from foreign sources, including
> the Foundation.  This is not a situation unique to Wikimedia India, as more
> than 20,000 NGOs nationally faced cancellations of their licenses last year
> due to reasons that have largely to do with politics rather than compliance
> related issues.
>
>
> https://www.firstpost.com/india/fcra-licences-of-2-ngos-cancelled-act-being-used-as-weapon-to-

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Co-option of New Executive Committee member to Wikimedia India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

There are many people like Ashwin (and myself) who were members right from
the beginning of WMIN.

However, later on they dropped out due to various reasons  (like tedious
renewal process etc.). We wish to continue further again. I suppose
reconnecting the old members could be a good initiative for the chapter.

Regards
Sudhanwa

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 8:17 AM Abhinav srivastava 
wrote:

> Dear Ashwin Sir,
>
> I find you are a very old member at Wikimedia India and there are also
> communication logs where you have been conversing on the Mailing List.
>
> However, I do not find your Mail ID in the subscriber's list.  Generally
> with membership renewal an invitation mail to join Member's Mailing is
> followed.
>
> I am reaching out to you on a personal thread to sort this out.
>
>
>
> Abhinav
>
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 23:27, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for answering my query.
>>
>> Another query. Would newly added members have to apply for the Chapter
>> mailing list or do they get added automatically?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 9:17 PM Subhashish Panigrahi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes yes, good times indeed! :)
>>>
>>> Thanks for clarifying - really appreciate it and also for your tireless
>>> contribution to the chapter's growth by taking these extra miles.
>>>
>>> Subha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 6:01 PM Abhinav srivastava 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Subhashish,

 Thanks for the wishes. I recollect my previous iteration with WMIN when
 you were with CIS-A2K and we had worked together :)

 By perks and benefits I mean no qualification for* serving WMIN *but
 only a qualification *on  merits of a volunteer*. Take an example,
 CIS-A2K invited WMIN as a resource person for a regional workshop or
 conference and decides to arrange for flights, hotel, food, airport
 transfers etc. I will not be accepting such* perks* since I am a
 co-opted EC. If I wish to attend the event, I would apply like an ordinary
 community member and be subject to the decision of the jury on the
 scholarship award.

 Similarly, volunteers can always avail for Taxi, Food etc even when
 undergoing administrative work for their affiliates. Although at WMIN, we
 never get such benefits, even if a miracle happens (we should believe in
 miracle or THE BATMAN)  no reimbursements would be taken or any overdraft
 cheque created so that when WMIN gets funding, my claims can be cleared.

 If ever I am compelled to go against the said statement, I would first
 put up a public request (including this mailing list) and based on
 community endorsement, I would proceed.

 Hope this helps.

 Abhinav


 On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 16:09, Subhashish Panigrahi <
 psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Congratulations Abinav - good to see you back again! :) All the best
> for the upcoming elections.
>
> BTW I have a question about this - "I would also like to make a public
> declaration, I will not take privilege of any perks or benefits while
> serving the office of WMIN as a co-opted EC". Isn't it given that the
> Chapter EC members are all volunteers?
>
> Subha
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 2:43 PM Yohann Thomas 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ashwin sir
>>
>> When EC members resign, the EC has an option to co-opt executive
>> committee members to fill the vacancy..
>>
>> As per Chapter bye laws, Article VII, point A, sub point f,
>>
>> *Any vacancy caused in the membership of the Executive Committee
>> shall be filled from within the membership of the Society, and the
>> incumbent shall hold the post/position till the next General Body 
>> Meeting.
>> Such members chosen to fill the said vacancy shall be decided by the
>> Executive Committee.*
>>
>> In this case, we have two vacancies of Krishna Chaitanya & Suyash
>> Dwivedi. For now.. We are filling only one of the vacancies..
>>
>> Regards,
>> Yohann Thomas
>> Wikimedia India
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Jun, 2019, 12:09 Ashwin Baindur, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shouldn't there be an election? Is co-opting permitted as per bye
>>> laws?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 10:56 AM Asaf Bartov 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's good to know, and thanks for the update. Best wishes to
 Abhinav!

 Is there any update on the state of the chapter, vis-a-vis its
 compliance difficulties? Or its activities? It would be good to keep 
 the
 wider communities informed.

 Cheers,

A.

 On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 07:11 Yohann Thomas 
 wrote:

> Dear Community members
>
> With a current board strength of only 5 members, Wikimedia India
> has 2 vacant board member seats. I am pleased to inform you that 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF complying to court orders.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

My point was not about the content or context of the court order but the
compliance of it by WMF.
For all these years, we have been told that WMF does not do anything on the
content on wikipedia. And here is a case where even the history is also
removed that too within a day to comply with a German court order which is
obviously out of jurisdiction of any US laws under which WMF is required to
be complaint.

>From the points mentioned by Anirudh, it is also clear that WMF probably
does some(may be considerably more)  discrimination depending on the
context. As such, it seems there is a bias within WMF and also on the
content of WMF projects.

For me, it is very much important that the Indian map issue IS a legal
matter and WMF does not address it properly. This issue is being
highlighted from the Wikiconference in Mumbai and it still continues.
Almost all my time after leaving from Pune till I came back from the
conference was completely eaten up by the maps issue (police, morcha and
what not. Obviously I am touchy about it.)

It is really saddening to know that all the people from the community, and
various WMF connected organisations and user groups etc are absolutey
silent on it. Otherwise, they make so much noise on any minor points
happening here and there. And WMF staff also gets into the discussions.
There is complete silence now on the maps topic and legal issue.

btw,
Have you noticed the change in Google maps of India? After the air strike
and F16 down, Google maps show the correct maps of India now (no Pakistan
or Chinese controlled areas etc)

Legal experts, please comment. Your opinions are very important for all of
us.
Regards
-Sudhanwa




On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:24 PM Anirudh S. Bhati 
wrote:

> The fact that the German court order had to do with a relatively private
> and low-profile individual could explain WMF's willingness to comply with
> the decision.  If, however, the ruling had to do with a high-profile
> individual in politics, or some political issue that raised substantial
> questions around free speech, then perhaps WMF's approach could have been
> different.
>
> At the same time, we should keep in mind that there are also strong
> financial reasons to comply with court rulings of the German courts, as WMF
> raises a significant amount of money from the German public.  If they had
> been facing a Laotian court order, for instance, their approach could have
> been very different.  I do think this had more to do with the fact that the
> court order dealt with a relatively private and low-profile person.
>
> How would WMF react to a situation like this in India?  I think it will be
> dealt on a case-by-case basis.
>
> Yours,
> Anirudh
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:15 AM Frederick Noronha <
> fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sudhanwa,
>>
>> This is a complex case, with legal (and perhaps technological)
>> implications, so I'm not surprised by the lack of response.
>>
>> Law and technology seem to be moving in different directions here.
>>
>> (1) I am familiar with the journalistic/legal argument that the
>> repetition of a defamatory statement is, in itself, defamation too.
>>
>> (2) On the other hand, the Wikipedia believes that all the edit histories
>> should be retained, for convincing and sound reasons.
>>
>> But what happens if some defamatory statement gets 'embedded' in those
>> histories?
>>
>> This is why I see a kind of conflict between law and the way technology
>> (Wikis, in this case) seem to be evolving
>>
>> In some cases at least, the Wikipedia should challenge the rulings of the
>> courts. (This one seemed to offer little time to do this.) I'm sure a
>> number of pro bono lawyers will support such an important cause. FN
>>
>> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 00:48, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Indian Wikimedians,
>>>
>>> I had sent this mail earlier also and was expecting some comments on it.
>>> Somehow not a single person has replied to this mail.
>>> We talk so much on the list on many insignificant things. Many times WMF
>>> people also add their comments/views in it. But for such an important
>>> topic, that too of national interest, there is complete silence !! I am
>>> surprised and saddened.
>>>
>>> This was the original mail I sent on April 12th.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Please check out this news from WMF.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/04/11/a-german-court-forced-us-to-remove-part-of-a-wikipedia-articles-history-heres-what-that-means/
>>>
>>> This means WMF accepts cour

[Wikimediaindia-l] WMF complying to court orders.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Indian Wikimedians,

I had sent this mail earlier also and was expecting some comments on it.
Somehow not a single person has replied to this mail.
We talk so much on the list on many insignificant things. Many times WMF
people also add their comments/views in it. But for such an important
topic, that too of national interest, there is complete silence !! I am
surprised and saddened.

This was the original mail I sent on April 12th.
---

Please check out this news from WMF.

https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/04/11/a-german-court-forced-us-to-remove-part-of-a-wikipedia-articles-history-heres-what-that-means/

This means WMF accepts court rulings across the world and take action
accordingly. What can happen in the case of India maps? Your views please.

Regards
---
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[Wikimediaindia-l] WMF complying to court orders.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Please check out this news from WMF.

https://wikimediafoundation.org/2019/04/11/a-german-court-forced-us-to-remove-part-of-a-wikipedia-articles-history-heres-what-that-means/

This means WMF accepts court rulings across the world and take action
accordingly. What can happen in the case of India maps? Your views please.

Regards
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Structured data on Commons: Multilingual captions beta testing

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Good initiative !!

Not sure if the categories are translated in various languages and/or cross
linked across languages. I suppose that will help more than putting
multilingual captions.

Regards
Sudhanwa


On Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 3:22 AM Tito Dutta  wrote:

>
> Might be of great interest.
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
> me over email or phone call.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Keegan Peterzell 
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 02:20
> Subject: [Wikidata] Structured data on Commons: Multilingual captions beta
> testing
> To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List , <
> wikid...@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> The Structured Data on Commons team has begun beta testing of the first
> feature, multilingual file captions, and all community members are invited
> to test it out. Captions is based on designs discussed with the community
> [1][2] and the team is looking forward to hearing about testing.
>
>
> ***If all goes well during testing, captions will be turned on for Commons
> around the second week of January, 2019.***
>
> Multilingual captions are plain text fields that provide brief, easily
> translatable details of a file in a way that is easy to create, edit, and
> curate. Captions are added during the upload process using the
> UploadWizard, or they can be added directly on any file page on Commons.
> Adding captions in multiple languages is a simple process that requires
> only a few steps.
>
> The details:
>
>
>-
>
>There is [[mw:Help:File_captions|a help page available on how to use
>multilingual file captions]]
>-
>
>Testing will take place on Beta Commons. If you don’t yet have an
>account set up there, you’ll need one. (direct link:
>https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page )
>-
>
>Beta Commons is a testbed, and not configured exactly like the real
>Commons site, so expect to see some discrepancies with UI elements like
>search
>-
>
>Structured Data introduces the potential for many important page
>changes to happen at once, which could flood the recent changes list.
>Because of this, Enhanced Recent Changes
> is
>enabled as it currently is at Commons, but with some user interface 
> changes.
>-
>
>Feedback and commentary on the file caption functionality are welcome
>and encouraged on the discussion page for this post:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data/Beta_captions_testing
>-
>
>Some testing has already taken place and the team are aware of some
>issues. A list of known issues can be seen below
>-
>
>If you discover a bug/issue that is not covered in the known issues,
>please file a ticket on Phabricator and tag it with the “Multimedia” tag.
>Use [
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projects=multimedia
>this link to file a new task] already tagged with "Multimedia."
>
>
> Known issues:
>
>
>-
>
>Search is not currently working on Beta Commons. Search is not needed
>for testing captions, but service should be restored soon.
>-
>
>Language name display inconsistencies in multilingual file captions -
>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209380
>-
>
>Language names for multilingual File captions can run into the caption
>value in the mobile view - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209333
>-
>
>Deleting a caption field that has text that exceeds the limit does not
>re-enable the "publish" button -
>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209329
>-
>
>"Edit" tab for past revisions should be "restore" -
>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209187
>-
>
>When using the back button, recently added captions sometimes don't
>display in Chrome - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208894
>-
>
>File Captions can't be edited on mobile browsers -
>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208993
>-
>
>Wrong font weight for some language labels on SDC captions box -
>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208902
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> 1.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/Get_involved/Feedback_requests/Multilingual_Captions
> 2.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/Get_involved/Feedback_requests/Multilingual_Captions_and_MediaInfo
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikisource OCR tool

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Many thanks Jay for your work. Will check out the code.

What is the Google terms and conditions for using their OCR services? A
link to that will also help.

Regards
Sudhanwa

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 9:05 PM Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> @Shrinivasan T,  You can find the source at GitHub.
>
> https://github.com/wikimedia/labs-tools-indic-ocr
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:25 PM Satdeep Gill 
> wrote:
>
>> Tito, Thank you for sharing the link here. This tool is really helpful.
>> Barnstars to Jay Prakash.
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Nov, 2018, 7:27 AM Tito Dutta >
>>> Hello,
>>> We just completed Indic Wikisource consultation 2018, and one of the
>>> most important part of the consultation was the Wikisource tech
>>> needs-assessment
>>> We have got a few tools and scripts suggestion which Indic TechCom may
>>> work on.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, please have a look at:
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Indic-TechCom/Tools/IndicOCR or the
>>> tool link directly https://tools.wmflabs.org/jayprakashbot/
>>> This is a web OCR tool. Currently Google OCR does not support the
>>> following languages and it will help there
>>>
>>>1. Malayalam Wikisource
>>>2. Telugu Wikisource
>>>3. Odiaa Wikisource
>>>4. Gujarati Wikisource
>>>5. Kannada Wikisource
>>>6. Punjabi Wikisource
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll keep the list informed about further development.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tito Dutta
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] South India Wikimedia Copyright workshop on 20-21 October 2018

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Even though I am very much interested, I wont be able to join there.
Can you please record this whole event and release it publicly so that
interested people like me can watch and gain some knowledge out of it.

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa


On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 2:21 PM Tito Dutta  wrote:

> Hello,
> Tonight 11:59 pm is the deadline to apply for this workshop. If you have
> not applied yet, please do so.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Events/Copyright_workshop:_South_India
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
> me over email or phone call.
>
>
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 20:17, Tito Dutta  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> A workshop on Wikimedia copyright-related topics will take place on 20-21
>> October in Bangalore or slightly around. Pre-event session is on 19 October
>> early evening.
>>
>> Any Wikimedian from South Indian states Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka,
>> Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Telangana, who are actively working, may apply to
>> participate in the workshop.
>>
>> The primary resource person of the workshop will be User:Yann
>>
>> Some of the topics to be discussed during the workshop are (more topics
>> may be added)
>>
>>- Different Creative Commons licenses (CC licences) and terminologies
>>such as CC, SA, BY, ND, NC, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0
>>- Public domain in general and Public domain in India
>>- Copyright of photos of different things such as painting,
>>sculpture, monument, coins, banknotes, book covers, etc.
>>- Freedom of Panorama
>>- Personality rights
>>- Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA, specially impact on Indian
>>works)
>>- Government Open Data License India (GODL)
>>- *topic may be added based on needs-assessment of the participants*
>>
>> Please see the event page here, and consider joining:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Events/Copyright_workshop:_South_India
>>
>> Partial participation is not allowed. In order to bridge gendergap,
>> female Wikimedians are encouraged to apply.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tito Dutta
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>> remind me over email or phone call.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania tour of Rahul Desmukh

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 3:47 PM Subhashish Panigrahi 
wrote:

> Just a technical clarification - Asaf copied Rahul in his first emai so he
> must have received the email. I have copied Rahul again. In worst case
> scenario (if he is not there in the mailing list), others from the chapter
> board would have informed him. It’s very hard to believe that the
> discussion has gone so far without Rahul not being aware Also, it’s
> important for movement partner reps to be on mailing lists of their own
> country.
>

My bad. Haven't noticed Rahul is also marked in the mails.


>
> Sorry, I don’t find the argument — that Rahul hasn’t replied back because
> he isn’t there in the mailing list — a strong one.
>

Completely agree that he should reply.

Regards
-Sudhanwa
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania tour of Rahul Desmukh

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

In spite of so many mails, if he(Rahul) is not responding, It is obvious
that he is not on this mailing list.

I found Bodhisattwa's initial query was in the right spirit but later on
tones got changed on the thread and it has almost become
scrutiny/interrogation !!
I completely understand/respect/agree that we are all volunteers and we do
have concerns about the activities happening around. But in this case,
things are probably not taken "In good faith" which is a base of a
Wikipedian.
Any volunteer is always free to apply/ask for scholarship for any reason
towards the cause of Wikipedia and no one can deny that freedom. In this
case, it happens to be a office bearer of the organisation. (I am not
taking any names here and making it generic) If a volunteer feels that the
reason for asking for scholarship is valid, he/she should ask for it.

It is the duty of the person/organisation sanctioning such
scholarships/funding to judge if the justification for the same is valid or
not. If the justification is not right, sponsorship can be easily rejected.
Nothing wrong in it. In this case, CIS-A2K has already replied to the
query. Somehow, people are still asking the sponsored volunteer for
justification and not the sponsoring authorities. It should be the other
way round as the sponsors have the authority to accept or reject any
proposal. I believe, in the past WMF has also spend money on similar
sponsorships without even informing the community. Lot of money has been
spent in various projects without much visibility and actual numbers in
achieving the target. But then very few people are raising alerts about it.

So, if at all people want to raise their concern, find the right target to
ask questions/get answers and not just another volunteer !!
Hope people will take up things in the right spirit.

Disclaimer: I have not met/talked to anyone from WMIN/WMF after this thread
has started. Just had a 1-2 minute casual discussion with Tito about the
mail thread itself.

Regards
-Sudhanwa



On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:15 AM Karthik Nadar  wrote:

> Dear WMIN EC/Rahul,
>
> I think the community is still waiting for an answer.
>
> My further points:
>
> 1. I appreciate Abhinav for defending the Chapter. Having been in the
> seat, I would personally incline to defend too, however it really has to
> make sense.
>
> 2. CIS has done it's role of helping WMIN as always. Perhaps request of
> support upto this scale should be available to public even before it is
> accepted. I think CIS should also have analysed that there were two members
> from WMIN EC were attending Wikimania.
>
> Would not like to deviate more. In complete sync with Asaf. WMIN is
> answerable to the community and to its members. No doubt here and it's been
> just too long, way too long.
>
> Dear WMIN, the only way to gain community confidence is to engage with
> them. Really surprised with activities like Wiki Loves Monuments which was
> always a Chapter supported activity is not supported by Chapter this year
> or correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Karthik Nadar
> Ignore types, sent using my OnePlus
>
> On Fri 24 Aug, 2018, 1:22 AM Asaf Bartov,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Rahul,
>>
>> It's been 10 days since I've explicitly invited you to respond yourself
>> and to take responsibility for this -- whether a mistake or a
>> misunderstanding.  It would be good if you could make time to do so.  If
>> you are unable to put in the time, please at least drop a line
>> acknowledging you intend to, and suggest a date by which you'd be able to
>> respond.
>>
>> It seems to me people have been trying to assume good faith despite
>> concerns about the way this was handled, but this assumption of good faith
>> should not be abused indefinitely.  WMIN's EC and its president should be
>> accountable to the membership and the broader communities it exists to
>> support.  You agreed with this statement when I made it in our meeting in
>> Mumbai last year.  Do please show you meant it.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:04 PM Asaf Bartov 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps also helpful would be to hear some response from Mr. Deshmukh
>>> himself.
>>>
>>> Rahul, I think the concerns raised here at least merit your attention,
>>> and it's been two weeks. I encourage you to show up and discuss the
>>> concerns -- ideally, with a forthright description of what did and didn't
>>> happen around your travel to Wikimania, and with a forward-looking
>>> perspective of what might change to prevent such concerns in the future.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>A.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 7:06 AM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Yohann,

 As I and Satdeep requested, it would be great if you share the
 invitation letter with all of us, so that we can know who invited WMIN
 president to attend the meeting.

 Thanks,
 Bodhisattwa


 On Wed, 8 Aug 2018, 14:58 Bodhisattwa Mandal, <
>>>

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India community mailing list admins

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Recently, there was a major subscription attack to all the mailing lists.
Email ids from aol and yahoo were used to subscribe in bulk.  Probably,
during the corrective measures, this kind of problem might have occurred.

In case of any posting issues, raising them to the list admins usually
solves them quickly.

Regards
-Sudhanwa



On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <
kcvel...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> The Indian community mailing list is arguably the most used mailing list
> by the Indian Wikimedia community. However, recently some users have
> reported problems with subscription and sending messages as
> non-subscribers. All these issues are need to be dealt by the list admins
> at the earliest possible. However, the issues remain unsolved.
>
> So I think more active community members must be added as mailing list
> admins so that these issues can be addressed in a timely manner.
>
> List info at: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/
> Wikimediaindia-l
>
> Looking forward for comments from other members.
>
> Regards,
> Krishna Chaitanya V.
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Just a gentle reminder about Gnunify 2018 !!

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Just a gentle reminder about Gnunify 2018 !! Just a few days remaining for
the conference now !! Delegate registration is already open !! Check out
http://gnunify.in/ for tracks, talks, schedule etc.

Regards
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] New Wikimedia India Executive Committee is Inducted

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Congratulations !!

That is a nice mix of new and old members !!

All the best wishes to the team !!!

Regrds
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:

> Dear One & all
>
> As you are aware, Wikimedia India (WMIN) recently in April had its
> election for all its 7 Executive Committee (EC) positions
> 
>
> At IIT Bombay, WMIN recently had an Induction meeting with the
> newly elected Executive committee members. This session was conducted from
> 30th June - 1st July 2017 in the IIT Bombay campus
>
> Since the new EC has a good mix of members from Past EC & new faces too,
> the Induction process was conducted in a very smooth & planned manner.
> Mr Ashwin Baindur also gave a session on the working of Community dynamics
> along with the expectations by the community from the new EC.
>
> On the last day of the Induction meeting, the EC members elected office
> bearers amongst themselves. Following are the new Office bearers
>
>- Mr Rahul Deshmukh : President
>- Mr Yohann Thomas : Secretary
>- Mr Sanket Oswal : Treasurer
>- Mr Viswa Prabha : Member
>- Mr Suyash Dwivedi : Member
>- Mr Santosh Shingare : Member
>- Mr Krishan Chaitanya Velaga : Member
>
> You can find the newly updated Board members page with their profiles here
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Executive_Committee_Members
>
> I would like to thank the community for their wholehearted support they
> have given to the chapter & hope to meet their expectations
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WMIN-Members] Verification and approval of candidates.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Vishwa,

>From whatever you have mentioned, my name should also be there. (Especially
considering that shantanu Mahajan's name is included . We send our money,
docs together).

Many more questions arise further.
How elections can happen for previous year with this year's voters? At
least the voters should be for the same year of voting.
If the current EC members tenure is over, who and how elections are being
held by them? That too for previous year.  What will be the tenure of
elected people of this 2016 elections? Till 2018 or till 2019?

I don't know if current EC has taken any advice on these matters.
They have not updated members about any regularity matters or financial
matters during there tenure. Whatever little bit  people know is from the
IRC logs and that is not a good picture.

Hope the current EC replies to these queries.

Regards
Sudhanwa





On Apr 13, 2017 12:23 AM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" 
wrote:

> Dear Sudhanwa,
>
> Greetings!
>
>
>
> From the WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf
>
> B. Voter’s List:
>> 1. The electorate shall consist of the members of the Society i.e.
>> i. Individual Members
>> ii. Institutional Members
>> 2. Provided:-
>> *a. Members who are on the rolls of the Chapter three months prior to the
>> AGM/Election day shall*
>> *form the eligible voters list.*
>> 3. Copy of Final Voters’ List shall be available at Registered office of
>> the Society at least
>> twenty one days ahead of the Election Day and in the Election premises
>> (if some other
>> Venue is selected as for conduct of Ballot) on the day of voting for
>> inspection of Voters
>> 4. Right to cast the vote shall be with the members only and is not
>> transferable. For Institutional
>> members/voters, the person duly authorized can vote in person.
>>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Verification and approval of candidates.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

I am not sure how the voter list is prepared. If the elections are for
2016, i feel that eligibility should be as per that year and not current
year.

Can elecom, EC give explanation on this.

Regards
Sudhanwa


On Mar 29, 2017 12:57 PM, "Abhijeet Safai"  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Greetings!
>
> Please find below the list of verified and approved candidates for the
> elections. Please feel free to call / mail for any query regarding this. As
> I am new to this process itself, I might not know all the answers to the
> questions, but I shall try my best to get the information and share. Also
> kindly let us know if any modification is needed.
>
> We would like to wish best of luck to all the candidates!
> Draft slate of candidates
>
> Election Committee deliberated the nominations and clarified the
> information on the nomination forms with the Chapter. More details here
> 
>
>- Dr Subas Chandra Rout
>
> 
>- Harish Satpute
>
>- Harvinder Chandigarh
>
>- Krishna Chaitanya Velaga
>
> 
>- Mourya Biswas
>
>- Rahul Deshmukh
>
>- Sanket Oswal
>
>- Santosh Shingare
>
>- Srikar Kashyap Pulipaka
>
> 
>- Subham Soni
>
>- Suyash Dwivedi
>
>- Viswanathan Prabhakaran
>
> 
>- Yohann Thomas
>
>- Priyanka Tiwari
>
>- Nikhil Kawale
>
>- Raju Jangid
>
>- Kiran Ravikumar
>
>- Jnanaranjan Sahu
>
>- Dr Ataullah Khan Kak Cenjary
>
> 
>- Ranjith Sanjeev
>
>- Sayli Salvi
>
>
> Last date for withdrawal of candidature is 1st April 2017, 2359 hrs IST. Any
> candidate withdrawing candidature may express the same on
> Talk:Elections_2016#Nominations
>  and wikisign
> before due date.
>
> Thanking you,
> Yours sincerely,
> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Mar 21, 2017 4:36 AM, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" <
i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Great initiative!

Is there any way to contribute to this initiative?
ex - I have additional devices and I would like to donate.



You can donate your pocket projector to me ;-)

Regards
Sudhanwa



Best,
Abhishek
(Sent via handheld device, pardon the brevity)



On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 10:37 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

> FYI.
>
>   A.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Asaf Bartov 
> Date: Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:06 PM
> Subject: Announcing the Hardware donation program
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new program called
> the Hardware Donation Program.  In a word, it is a program designed to
> donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from the WMF office to
> community members who would put it to good use.
>
> The program, including instructions on how to apply, is described on Meta,
> here:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
>
> Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage you to pay
> attention to the program's design considerations, which determine most of
> the decisions we'll be making.
>
> We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> Applications are welcome.
>
> The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks) would be
> an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in person to
> approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, I'd
> encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
>
> Please also help spread the word about this program, by forwarding this
> e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link to the
> program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) social media
> channels or other communication forms you use.
>
> Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had the idea
> of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, and inspired
> this program.
>
> Mini-FAQ:
>
> Q: Why are you doing this?
> A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and regularly
> replaces older machines.  This creates a stock of older, working machines,
> that are available for donation.  We can donate them locally to San
> Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost ways to
> deliver them to our own community members, that's so much better.
>
> Q: Am I eligible?
> A: Read the fine program documentation.
>
> Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> A: no.
>
> Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> A: yes, eventually.
>
> Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for Wikimedia purposes?
> A: We can't.  We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the likelihood
> of Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> Once donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, but
> can't enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
>
> Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get them through
> this program?
> A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
>
> Q: I'm really happy about this!
> A: So are we! :)
>
> Q: I'm really angry about this!
> A: So it goes.
>
> Q: I have more questions!
> A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
>Asaf
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: First IRC for Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee Elections-2016

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Thanks.
will check out.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:

> Dear Sudhanwaji
>
> As mentioned in my original email
>
> The link to the IRC is as below:

 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_19,_2017



>>>
> You can find the log here.. on the same link only..
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: First IRC for Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee Elections-2016

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Please update us on the happenings there.
Any IRC log available?


On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:

> IRC will be starting in 10 minutes.
> Request all potential candidates & members to join & clear all doubts
>
> Regards,
> Yohann
>
> Yohann Thomas
> yohan...@gmail.com
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:
>
>> Dear Member,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Subject: First IRC for Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee
>> Elections-2016*
>>
>>
>>
>> First IRC for Wikimedia Chapter Executive Committee Elections-2016 is
>> scheduled on 19-March-2017 9:00PM - 10:30PM.
>>
>> This session is for potential candidates and members to clarify election
>> rules and procedures with Election Committee and current EC.
>>
>> The announcement for the same can be found on
>>
>> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats#Upcoming_Planned_Session .
>>
>> The above link also provides details on how to participate.
>>
>>
>>
>> The link to the IRC is as below:
>>
>> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_19,_2017
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Following guidelines will help facilitate the smooth conduct of the *
>> *IRC**:*
>>
>>
>>
>> - Please be on-time, IRC starts at 9:00 PM.
>>
>> - If you have not participated in IRC earlier, it is recommended that
>> you go through the following in advance
>>
>>   http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats#How_to_participate
>>
>> - Participants to identify themselves on joining
>>
>> - Please go through the election rules and related documentation
>> available at
>>
>>   http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016#Related_documents
>>
>> - Questions may be posted on http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Ta
>> lk:Elections_2016#Questions_for_IRC in advance. These will be taken up
>> first.
>>
>> - Please await confirmation from facilitator before putting up new topics
>> during the IRC. Topics will be taken up one by one to allow everyone to
>> contribute.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Yohann Thomas
>>
>> Wikimedia India
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] does anybody have any of the kiwix CD/DVD images

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Apart from Kiwix, you can check out this wikitaxi. Not sure if it is older
than kiwix.

https://www.yunqa.de/delphi/products/wikitaxi/index

Their facebook page is from 2015. No activity further there.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Naveen Francis 
wrote:

> Hope this link will help.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Offline_
> Wikipedia_for_Indian_Schools#Related_links
>
> Thanks,
> Naveen Francis
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:47 PM, shirish शिरीष 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> About 10 days back, I along with few people from FOSS community India
>> and Mozilla Community were doing outreach program at GMRT, NCRA
>>
>> http://gmrt.ncra.tifr.res.in/~sciday/sciday/scienceday.htm
>>
>> This is the 4th year that we were able to do it successfully.
>>
>> During the outreach program, every year we get few students, kids who
>> ask us about offline wikipedia .
>>
>> I know and used to cut kiwix when it was young and I could work with
>> 3.4 GB (DVD image) but couple of years back and even today the torrent
>> size has ballooned to 25 GB (light) and 61 GB (full) .
>>
>> IIRC, wasn't there used to be ones for students which was a compiled
>> list readily usable/available with much shorter list ?
>>
>> Has anybody tried out either of these huge databases and can they
>> share if these come with images or not. The earlier ones I remember
>> perfectly did NOT have images .
>>
>> Looking forward to know.
>>
>> --
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[Wikimediaindia-l] "Marathi Bhasha Din" celebrated on 27 February

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Every year, Marathi Bhasha Din is celebrated on 27 February. This year also
it was celebrated across Maharashtra and also within the Marathi community
across the world.

Maharashtra Government took a great initiative this year to promote Marathi
Wikipedia. Government published many advertisements featuring various
celebrities who were asking to edit Marathi Wikipedia on the occasion of
"Marathi Bhasha Din" This is a major boost for raising awareness of Marathi
Wikipedia among the "aam janata". Marathi Wikipedia community is expecting
a considerable contribution to mrwp because of the Government support. Lets
see how things work out.

Please check out the Marathi Wikipedia (https://mr.wikipedia.org ) where
you can get most of the videos and other material related to this.

Warm regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Final draft of Conflict of Interest policy for Wikimedia India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Any updates on WMIN activities?
Especially considering the recent stopping of NGO operations related to
FCRA.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:

> Dear Community
>
> Wikimedia India has made a final draft for the Conflict of Interest
> policy(attached)
>
> We would invite the community to review it & give their inputs
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Nibhish Technologies :: Offline, Online and Form filling Data Processing

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Congratulations for becoming a spammer in your first introductory mail !!!
That IS some achievement !!!

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:07 PM, arun vm  wrote:

> This is a spam mail otherhand i dont want to recive such mails
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Sunil papaiah568 <
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>> Please find the company performa.
>>
>> Regards,
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>> Nibhish Technologies
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Sunil papaiah568 <
>> sunilpapaiah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Hope all of you are doing well.
>>>
>>> I have started the New firm called Nibhish Technologies primarily
>>> focusing on Offline, Online and Form filling Data Processing projects.
>>> Please advice if there is any opportunity where it will help all of us in
>>> sharing the work. Have fair and healthy business.
>>>
>>> *Over view of Nibhish Technologies:*
>>>
>>> This is pertaining to Data processing business opportunity in public and
>>> private sector departments. India is rapidly developing in Information
>>> technology by computerizing all the sectors and their sub departments under
>>> Digital India program. As a startup company, we are looking for a business
>>> opportunity to create an employment opportunity to our skilled resources
>>> and contribution to our economic growth.
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Public Domain Day coming: action needed

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

FYI
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Romaine Wiki" 
Date: Dec 12, 2016 7:29 AM
Subject: [Chapters] Public Domain Day coming: action needed
To: "Affiliates discussion list" ,
"Wikimedia Chapters general discussions" 
Cc: "Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration" 

Hi all,

Every year on the first of January it is Public Domain Day
 on what thousands of
works of authors that died 70 years ago enter the public domain. This
results in the restoration of many works on Wikimedia Commons, but this
slowly moves larger.

Besides the works that are restored on Wikimedia Commons, we actively ask
cultural institutions to look for works of artworks that died 70 years ago
(in most countries) and to upload images of those works (on/after 1
January) on Wikimedia Commons.

This year it concerns the works of authors who died in 1946.
(Of course it is also welcome to have them upload works from authors who
died in earlier years, but that is not the focus.)

As this is an event and/or new activity, this also can be interesting for
GLAMs as they get more attention for those works on Wikipedia, but also in
the press!

It would be great if we as Wikimedia movement could ask museums if they
have works of authors who died 70 years ago, s they can release them in the
public domain.

An incomplete list of authors that died in 1946 can be found at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_in_public_domain

If you are taking this up in your country/area, please let me know so I can
collect all results.

Thanks!

Romaine


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1194, Issue 1

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Usually, wikipedians start off with great enthusiasm but then get
disoriented and off target quickly. Volunteers could be great editors but
creating a conference requires altogether different skills. Doing some
activitiy online and running a conference or even an organisation is a
completely different ball game. Once we understand this fact, we will be
ready to conduct any kind of conferences-online or realworld !!

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:03 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I also thought that we should organize Wikimania in India but after
> organizing WCI i see that Indian community is not yet ready to even
> organize an annual WCI. It took one year to organize WCI 2016 and the work
> has not finished yet 3 months after the conference. It will take another 2
> months to finish everything as far as i see.
>
> So, No Wikimania until we are prepared enough to organize an annual
> conference.
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
>
>
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>> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 21:03:17 +0530
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>> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 23:17:56 +0530
>> > From: Srikant Kedia
>> > To: Wikimedia Chapter Membership ,  Wikimedia
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>> > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Should we organise Wikimania 2018/2019 in
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>> > Hello,
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>> > Since last 6 years we were planning to organise Wikimania in India. But we
>> > dropped it because of raw experience to organise such a big conference.
>> >
>> > But in the last 6 years, we have organised 3 conferences i.e.  in 2011 at
>> > Mumbai,  2015 at Kolkata &  2016 at Mohali. If we all communities and
>> > chapters collaborate then we can plan to organise an International
>> > conference at India in 2018/2019.
>> >
>> > Waiting for your opinion and suggestions.
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>> Hi,
>>
>> We organized the 2015 BN10 Conference in Kolkata and as far as I know,
>> Bengali community, including myself, is not at all interested in organizing
>> another conference, although I dont speak on behalf of all. Personally
>> speaking, to remain active online is more fruitful than organizing a
>> Wikimania.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Media of the day, 14 Oct 2016

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:

> Hi Sudhanwa,
>
> Please have a look at today's MOD , https://upload.wikimedia.org/
> wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Royal_Thai_Air_Force_Airbus_A340-
> 500_touch-and-go_at_Phuket_5Oct2016.webm
>
> May be you can add more questions here. Carry on...
>

I am interested in the answers. If you (and others)  can give them, it will
initiate a nice brainstorming discussion.
I know there are many senior wikipedians on the list (icluding yourself)
who can add their views in the discussion. Our ultimate objective is to
improve Wikipedia.

Regards
-Sudhanwa




>
>
> Regards,
> Jayanta Nath
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <
> sudhanwa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> With due respect to the videographer and his intentions, but then what is
>> that video about?
>> What is so great about the video to become video of the day? It shows
>> some people moving around across some pavilions, some dirty roads and stray
>> dogs.
>>
>> Are there any guidelines for a good video. Rather for any file uploaded
>> on commons. Can it show any association to the article where it is used? I
>> am seriously curious about the whole thing. Unfortunately, people do not
>> like any questions on such matters. Similar questions were/are applicable
>> to various photo contests too.
>>
>> Regards
>> -Sudhanwa
>>
>>
>> 2016-10-14 20:27 GMT+05:30 Kalyan Sarkar :
>>
>>> সুধী,
>>>
>>> আমি এই মাত্র লক্ষ করলাম যে বিশ্বরূপদার ২০১৬ কলকাতা পুস্তকমেলার ভিডিওটি
>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:40th_International_Kolkata_Book_Fair_-_Milan_Mela_Complex_-_Kolkata_2016-02-02_0612.ogv>
>>> আজকের দিনের মিডিয়া হিসেবে নির্বাচিত হয়েছে!
>>>
>>> বিশ্বরূপদাকে অভিনন্দন জানাই! আমরা বিশ্বরূপদার জন্য গর্বিত।
>>>
>>> ধন্যবাদ,
>>> কল্যাণ সরকার
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I just noticed that Biswarup da's video of 2016 Kolkata Book Fair
>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:40th_International_Kolkata_Book_Fair_-_Milan_Mela_Complex_-_Kolkata_2016-02-02_0612.ogv>
>>> has been chosen as the media of the day!
>>>
>>> Congratulations to Biswarup da! We are proud of you!
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Kalyan Sarkar
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Media of the day, 14 Oct 2016

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

With due respect to the videographer and his intentions, but then what is
that video about?
What is so great about the video to become video of the day? It shows some
people moving around across some pavilions, some dirty roads and stray dogs.

Are there any guidelines for a good video. Rather for any file uploaded on
commons. Can it show any association to the article where it is used? I am
seriously curious about the whole thing. Unfortunately, people do not like
any questions on such matters. Similar questions were/are applicable to
various photo contests too.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


2016-10-14 20:27 GMT+05:30 Kalyan Sarkar :

> সুধী,
>
> আমি এই মাত্র লক্ষ করলাম যে বিশ্বরূপদার ২০১৬ কলকাতা পুস্তকমেলার ভিডিওটি
> 
> আজকের দিনের মিডিয়া হিসেবে নির্বাচিত হয়েছে!
>
> বিশ্বরূপদাকে অভিনন্দন জানাই! আমরা বিশ্বরূপদার জন্য গর্বিত।
>
> ধন্যবাদ,
> কল্যাণ সরকার
>
>
> All,
>
> I just noticed that Biswarup da's video of 2016 Kolkata Book Fair
> 
> has been chosen as the media of the day!
>
> Congratulations to Biswarup da! We are proud of you!
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Kalyan Sarkar
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] seeking help with Hindi projects in Wikisource...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Google OCR for Devnagari (Languages like Hindi, Marathi etc) is used by
many. Accuracy is about 85-90% which is pretty good.
There is a paid OCR software available that gives better results. Can share
the name if you are interested.

I doubt if there is in-wikisource support for OCR in Indic languages.

If you can specify a bit more on your requirements, people can suggest a
possible solution.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:08 AM, Lane Rasberry 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Can anyone here refer me to someone who is active in making Hindi-language
> contributions to Wikisource? I wish to meet someone with experience in that
> language and project. Otherwise, can anyone suggest to me which Indic
> languages in Wikisource seem to be most active?
>
> Is anyone able to make a recommendation for any OCR software for
> converting scanned Hindi language documents to digital text? Does anyone
> know anything about in-Wikisource support for OCR in Hindi language? Does
> it exist? Is there documentation?
>
> Thanks for anything anyone can share.
>
> yours,
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Scholarship decision for WCI 2016 participation has been finalized

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Congrats to the scholarship recipients !!

Is there any regret mail sent to other applicants?

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ravishankar  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Scholarship decision for WCI 2016 participation has been finalized.
>
> We have offered 103 scholarships covering 20 language communities and five
> different Wikimedia projects. Among them, 25 recipients are women.
>
> The recipients have been informed about the decision through email. Please
> check your email inbox (or even spam folder) and respond to it. We will
> publish a final list of scholarship recipients on 16th July 2016.
>
> Please visit
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2016/Scholarships
> for more details.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ravi
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gujarati Wikisource completed - "Saraswatichandra".

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Congrats to the Gujarati Wikisource volunteers.

Please also mention the book details like author, publisher etc. Remember
cc-BY license ?

Regards
Sudhanwa
On May 31, 2016 7:34 AM, "sushant savla" 
wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
> We are pleased to announce that Gujarati Wikisource has uploaded one of
> the best known Gujarati piece of Literature, Saraswatichandra (Novel). This
> Novel has 4 volumes and more than 1770 Pages. It was written over a period
> of 15 years, with the first volume being published in 1887 and the fourth
> one in 1902. The Hindi film Saraswatichandra, released in 1968, was based
> on this novel and also 2013 television series of the same name which was
> broadcast on Star Plus in 2013–14.
>
> Volunteers of Gujarati Community has worked for 9 months, to bring this
> master piece of literature to the people. The work on this project started
> on 20.08.2015. This became the 79th book on the Gujarati Wikisource.
>
> The following wiki medians participated in the proejct : Ashok Vaishnav
> (User: Amvaishnav), Krishnakumar J Thakar (User:kjthaker), Vyom
> (User:Vyom25),Kabirdas Vankar (User:Kabirdas Vankar ), Vikas Kaila
> (User:વિકાસ કૈલા),Nizil Shah(User:Nizil Shah), Kartik Mistry
> (User:KartikMistry), Satishchandra Patel (User:સતિષચંદ્ર), Sushant Savla
> (User:Sushant savla).
>
> Ekatra Foundation and Forbes Gujarati Sabha also provided technical
> support.
>
>
> Link of the Novel on wiki source:
>
>
> https://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%B8%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%80%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%82%E0%AA%A6%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0
>
> Thanking you.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Sushant Savla
>
> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter - March 2016 Monthly Report

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
wrote:

> I second Sudhanwa's comments? Why the silence? If its bad news, let us all
> know!
>


Sharing a bad news (if it is there)  will help reduce stress. All of us can
then try to find some solution to it.
Moreover, there are many people like Ashwin, Arun, Arjuna, myself and many
more across the country who want to help out WMIN and take it further.
If nobody speaks up and tells us the current situation, their experience
and energies are not utilised at all.

Regards
-Sudhanwa




>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Except for "Wikimedian for the month", there is hardly anything on the
> > activities of WMIN.
> >
> > What is the current status of EC members, what is the fiancial situation,
> > what are the projects being worked out??   Absolutely nothing is coming
> out
> > from EC for the last few months.. rather for an year or so.
> >
> > Can EC send updates on these.
> >
> > Regards
> > -Sudhanwa
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Priyanka Tiwari <
> priyankatw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Greetings from Wikimedia India!
> >>
> >> Wikimedia India would like to share the monthly report of March 2016.
> >> Looking forward for your valuable feedback.
> >>
> >>
> >> EVENTS
> >>
> >>
> >> SETTING UP OF ADVISORY COUNCIL AT WIKIMEDIA INDIA:
> >>
> >>
> >> The primary objective of setting up an advisory board at Wikimedia India
> >> is to receive support, suggestions, guidance, advice and help in
> achieving
> >> chapter’s objective from distinguished individuals having excelled in
> their
> >> respective fields and mission. The advisory board members would provide
> a
> >> non-binding advice to the Executive Committee Members, Wikimedia India
> Staff
> >> and the community comprising of long list of editors across different
> >> language groups.
> >>
> >>
> >> The function of the advisory board would be to offer assistance to the
> >> chapter with anything from legal advice to management of finances to
> carry
> >> forward the goals of the chapter. Advisory board members would provide
> the
> >> chapter with new knowledge, development of strategic thinking and
> possible
> >> alternatives based on their expertise from different fields.
> >>
> >>
> >> The advisory board would in turn strengthen the executive committee and
> >> wikimedia staff to better execute their work, but does not interfere
> with
> >> either the executive committee or wikimedia india staff regarding the
> >> disclosure of confidential documents or forceful execution of their
> advices.
> >>
> >>
> >> Community members volunteered for Advisory Committee including Dhaval,
> >> Sripathy, Yann, Bodhisattwa Mandal, Satdeep Gill, Adethya, Karthik
> Nadar.
> >> The long discussion on the appointment process, views and opinions from
> >> various community members and Mr. Arun Ramarathnam made it a worth for
> >> inputs and amendments to be taken further.
> >>
> >>
> >> WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION AFFILIATE BOARD SELECTION:
> >>
> >>
> >> The Wikimedia chapters and thematic organizations select two members for
> >> the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. We, as the members of
> Wikimedia
> >> India have to accordingly vote for two members for the organisation.
> >>
> >>
> >> Community members poured in their views in the mailing list. Suggestions
> >> were rolling in for support to different candidates. Siska Doviana and
> Jan
> >> Ainali were the major names in support for from the community.
> >>
> >>
> >> We request the community members to kindly express their opinions and
> >> suggestions for the same. Please visit the links below to find more
> relevant
> >> details.
> >>
> >>  1.) About Affiliate Board
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
> >>
> >>  2.) Nominated Candidates
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations
> >>
> >> 3.) Timeline
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> FEATURED WIKIMEDIAN:
> >>
> >>
> >> Featured Wikimed

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter - March 2016 Monthly Report

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Except for "Wikimedian for the month", there is hardly anything on the
activities of WMIN.

What is the current status of EC members, what is the fiancial situation,
what are the projects being worked out??   Absolutely nothing is coming out
from EC for the last few months.. rather for an year or so.

Can EC send updates on these.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Priyanka Tiwari 
wrote:

> Greetings from Wikimedia India!
>
> Wikimedia India would like to share the monthly report of March 2016.
> Looking forward for your valuable feedback.
>
>
> *EVENTS*
>
>
> *SETTING UP OF ADVISORY COUNCIL AT WIKIMEDIA INDIA:*
>
>
> The primary objective of setting up an advisory board at Wikimedia India
> is to receive support, suggestions, guidance, advice and help in achieving
> chapter’s objective from distinguished individuals having excelled in their
> respective fields and mission. The advisory board members would provide a
> non-binding advice to the Executive Committee Members, Wikimedia India
> Staff and the community comprising of long list of editors across different
> language groups.
>
>
> The function of the advisory board would be to offer assistance to the
> chapter with anything from legal advice to management of finances to carry
> forward the goals of the chapter. Advisory board members would provide the
> chapter with new knowledge, development of strategic thinking and possible
> alternatives based on their expertise from different fields.
>
>
> The advisory board would in turn strengthen the executive committee and
> wikimedia staff to better execute their work, but does not interfere with
> either the executive committee or wikimedia india staff regarding the
> disclosure of confidential documents or forceful execution of their
> advices.
>
>
> Community members volunteered for Advisory Committee including Dhaval,
> Sripathy, Yann, Bodhisattwa Mandal, Satdeep Gill, Adethya, Karthik Nadar.
> The long discussion on the appointment process, views and opinions from
> various community members and Mr. Arun Ramarathnam made it a worth for
> inputs and amendments to be taken further.
>
>
> *WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION AFFILIATE BOARD SELECTION: *
>
>
> The Wikimedia chapters and thematic organizations select two members for
> the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. We, as the members of Wikimedia
> India have to accordingly vote for two members for the organisation.
>
>
> Community members poured in their views in the mailing list. Suggestions
> were rolling in for support to different candidates. Siska Doviana and Jan
> Ainali were the major names in support for from the community.
>
>
> We request the community members to kindly express their opinions and
> suggestions for the same. Please visit the links below to find more
> relevant details.
>
>  1.) About Affiliate Board
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
>
>  2.) Nominated Candidates
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations
>
> 3.) Timeline
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
>
>
>
>
>
> *FEATURED WIKIMEDIAN:*
>
>
> Featured Wikimedian for the month of March 2016 - *Baljeet Dhaliwal
> *
> .
>
>
> Baljeet Dhaliwal is a Punjabi Wikimedian currently studying in the ninth
> grade. Inspired by Charan Gill, father of another Wikimedian Satdeep Gill,
> Baljeet began editing in mid June 2015 and is now one of the youngest and
> most active editors of Punjabi Wikipedia. He mostly edits articles related
> to computers and has created the articles of almost all the basic
> components of computer in the Punjabi Wikipedia.
>
>
> A source of inspiration for his fellow Wikimedians, he is often described
> as a quick learner. Baljeet was one of the most prolific contributors at
> the Wikipedia Asian Month drive with 42 articles and was honored as a
> Wikipedia Asian Ambassador. Baljeet says he feels proud to see his mother
> tongue grow on the internet and vows to contribute more for its growth.
>
> For more details, please visit -
>
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Featured_Wikimedian/Archive/2016
>
>
>
>
> *NEWS*
>
>
> 1. Scholarships for Wikimania 2016 have been announced. For more details,
> please visit -
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars#2016_WMF_Wikimania_Scholarships
>
>
> 2. Katherine Maher (https://goo.gl/QwRJTa) takes over as the Intermin
> Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation effective 14 March 2016
> (after Lila Tretikov resigned in Feb 2016). Full announcement can be found
> at https://goo.gl/42NfC8 and https://goo.gl/uFhAzk
>
>
> 3. The Wikimedia Foundation Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is
> accepting proposals from March 14th to April 12th for new ideas to improve
> Wikimedia projects (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG). Funds
> are available (up to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: Setting Up of the Advisory Council at Wikimedia India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,


On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Satdeep Gill  wrote:

> Hi Sudhanwa,
>
> Please check this for information regarding Infrastructure Support.
>
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Equipment_Lending_and_Community_Support
>

OK. Looks good.


>
> P.S. WMIN is going through a financial crisis as of now and will not be
> able to give support for some time.
>

Hmmm. How you get such info from WMIN. I am asking for updates for a long
time and there is nothing coming from there.

Please let me know the trick  :-)

Regards
-Sudhanwa





> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
> On 01-Apr-2016, at 11:09 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Bodhisattwa,
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks Satdeep for the nomination. I am really honored.
>>
>> But I am very sorry that I cannot accept the nomination, as I am being
>> provided infrastructure support from WMIN, which is essential for me to
>> continue my volunteer on-wiki activities as a community member, and it will
>> be a conflict of interest from my part to continue to get the support as
>> well as become a Advisory committee member.
>>
>
> Thanks for taking a clear stand on this.
>
> Just to take up things as a case study, I would like to get some
> information from you (as well as EC).
>
> What kind of infrastructure support you are getting from WMIN? Was any
> such proposal announced by WMIN earlier that you picked up and got selected
> for support.
> How the support has changed the way on your work on Wikipedia? eg. no of
> edits per month before the support and the change in same after getting the
> support.
>
> What is the process to get such support? Is it available only to
> individuals or available for organisations too? Please give details.
>
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
>
>
>
>
>> I am also happy to nominate the name of Satdeep Gill, as he is one of the
>> most active community members in India (both on-wiki and off-wiki) and also
>> the founder member of Punjabi Wikimedia User Group, the first user group
>> from India. He was also mentioned as Wikimedian of the Year in Wikimania
>> Mexico in 2015 by Jimbo Wales. In my opinion, his addition to the committee
>> will improve the communication gap between the community and the chapter.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> --
>> Bodhisattwa
>>
>> On 29 March 2016 at 14:44, Satdeep Gill  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I would like to nominate* Bodhisattwa Mandal *for the Advisory
>>> Committee. He has 73784 global edits on Wikimedia projects. I believe he
>>> will be in a good position to guide Wikimedia India to work along with the
>>> Wikimedia communities in India.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Satdeep Gill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1079, Issue 1

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

[snip]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I have gone through the nomination page and questions asked to the
> candidates. My choice would be* Nataliia Tymkiv* and *Kunal Mehta. *
> Other candidates, except few, are also active Wikipedians in their way and
> if I had another option, I would preferred Osmar Valdebenito.
>
> --
>
...


>
> P.S.
>
> Satdeep and Sudhanwa preferred Siska Doviana. With all due respect,
> personally I am not fond of those Wikimedians who are not/less active
> on-wiki and still are/were EC members of different Wikimedia chapters. I
> know, that global edit-count is not the best indicator for Wikimedia
> involvement, but on-wiki involvement helps Wikimedians know the dynamics of
> the community, realize common community problems by heart and look for
> solution collaboratively. To me, if you are an EC member, then you have
> more reason to edit on-wiki (not only meta), because that only makes you
> build the bond with community members.
>

On-wiki activities and off-wiki activities are a completely different ball
game. Connect to the community is also different in both. A great editor
may not be good in compliance like filling up various forms, sending all
kinds of bills/documents to the organisation (WMIN or WMF etc etc) There
you require a off-wiki person who can do followup to get all the documents,
interact with various organisations/agencies/consultants etc. Deciding on
various grants, giving infrastructure support to editors is an off-wiki
activity too.  Running an organisation is completely different than editing
wikipedia.

And of course your opinions are respected. WMIN will have its own opinion
on various issues.

Regards
-Sudhanwa





>
>
>
>
>
In this context, I will *NOT* recommend WMIN to support Siska Doviana from
> WMID, who has only around 3,300 global edits!!.
> (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth&target=Siska.Doviana)
>
> I also do not support her initiative, stated in her nomination talk page,
> about providing huge amount of money to winners of content competition. To
> me, its a way to trigger dangerous practice in wiki world.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations/Siska_Doviana#Content%20adding
>
> 
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: Setting Up of the Advisory Council at Wikimedia India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Bodhisattwa,



On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks Satdeep for the nomination. I am really honored.
>
> But I am very sorry that I cannot accept the nomination, as I am being
> provided infrastructure support from WMIN, which is essential for me to
> continue my volunteer on-wiki activities as a community member, and it will
> be a conflict of interest from my part to continue to get the support as
> well as become a Advisory committee member.
>

Thanks for taking a clear stand on this.

Just to take up things as a case study, I would like to get some
information from you (as well as EC).

What kind of infrastructure support you are getting from WMIN? Was any such
proposal announced by WMIN earlier that you picked up and got selected for
support.
How the support has changed the way on your work on Wikipedia? eg. no of
edits per month before the support and the change in same after getting the
support.

What is the process to get such support? Is it available only to
individuals or available for organisations too? Please give details.

Regards
-Sudhanwa




> I am also happy to nominate the name of Satdeep Gill, as he is one of the
> most active community members in India (both on-wiki and off-wiki) and also
> the founder member of Punjabi Wikimedia User Group, the first user group
> from India. He was also mentioned as Wikimedian of the Year in Wikimania
> Mexico in 2015 by Jimbo Wales. In my opinion, his addition to the committee
> will improve the communication gap between the community and the chapter.
>
> Best wishes,
> --
> Bodhisattwa
>
> On 29 March 2016 at 14:44, Satdeep Gill  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to nominate* Bodhisattwa Mandal *for the Advisory
>> Committee. He has 73784 global edits on Wikimedia projects. I believe he
>> will be in a good position to guide Wikimedia India to work along with the
>> Wikimedia communities in India.
>>
>> Regards
>> Satdeep Gill
>>
>>
>
> --
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> with no direct control over the Wikipedia project and other websites hosted
> by the Wikimedia Foundation, USA.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Setting Up of the Advisory Council at Wikimedia India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Abhinav Srivastava <
abhinav.srivast...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Hi Sankarshan,
>
> Please be assured, although your concerns are genuine but they do not hold
> any weight. The only people who are somewhat intimately associated with the
> Chapter are its founder members.
>


This is an interesting statement.
I am not aware of any activities EC is doing with the founding members.

I am trying to find out what is really happening in the chapter by asking
queries to EC but nobody responds. EC members are leaving without giving
any reasons, compliance status is unknown, financial position is unknown
and now one of the EC members say only the founding members are somewhat
intimately associated.. Thats a wrong statement for sure.

-Sudhanwa




>
> Thanks
>
> On 28 March 2016 at 17:31, sankarshan  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Abhinav Srivastava
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for raising out the concern. Yes, the Wikimedia India's prime
>> > objective is to seek individuals with individual expertise. Wikimedia
>> India
>> > is a growing organisation, hence, the individuals at the advisory
>> council
>> > could provide the precise guidance on how to step under bigger
>> institutional
>> > framework.
>> >
>>
>> That was not the concern raised. The (proposed?) composition of the
>> advisory board seems to be skewed in favor of individuals who have
>> been somewhat intimately associated with the Chapter. This in turn is
>> orthogonal to the stated approach of having a diverse set of
>> specialized inputs.
>>
>> [The snippet from the original post is kept intact below to highlight
>> the specific concern raised]
>>
>> > On 23 March 2016 at 13:13, sankarshan 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Abhinav Srivastava
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > Advisory council would be a panel of experts with different expertise
>> >> > and
>> >> > connections with whom WE the chapter could rely on to get specific
>> >> > advice.
>> >> > However, They are not a "committee" in the usual sense to discuss all
>> >> > issues
>> >> > together and provide consensus.
>> >>
>> >> From the document:
>> >>
>> >> "The advisory board would not have any fixed size , but it is prefered
>> >> that it consist of 4-8 members.One member
>> >> would be an individual having an international experience in working
>> >> with the Wikimedia organisation. The next
>> >> group of these members would be individuals who were the founding
>> >> members of the Chapter. The last group of
>> >> members would be individuals having experience across four different
>> >> fields such as legal, information
>> >> technology, government regulation, administrative experience, etc."
>> >>
>> >> The (proposed?) composition seems peculiarly skewed towards
>> >> individuals with institutional memory.
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Affiliate Board Selection

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

I will prefer Siska.
No idea about others.

-Sudhanwa

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Abhinav Srivastava <
abhinav.srivast...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
> The Wikimedia chapters and thematic organizations select two members for
> the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. We, as the members of Wikimedia
> India have to accordingly vote for two members for the organisation.
>
> We request the community members to kindly express their opinion and
> suggestions for the same. Visit the links below to find more relevant
> details regarding the same.
>
>
> 1.) About Affiliate Board
> 
>
> 2.) Nominated Candidates
> 
>
> 3.) Timeline
> 
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> Srivastava Abhinav
> Executive Committee Member|Wikimedia India
> Ph - +91-9711739003|Skype: abhinavsrivastava619
> Wiki Username - abhinav619
>
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter - February 2016 Monthly Report

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Thanks for the report Priyanka.

Can the EC reply to my previous mails.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Priyanka Tiwari 
wrote:

> Greetings from Wikimedia India!
>
> Wikimedia India would like to share the monthly report of February 2016.
> Looking forward for your valuable feedback.
>
>
> *News and Events*
>
> 1)  Recognition of Maithili Wikimedians User Group (
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Maithili_User_Group/)
>
> Quick Introduction -
>
> *Maithili* is an Indo-Aryan language spoken in Nepal and northern India by
> 34.7 million people as of 2000, of which 2.8 million were resident in
> Nepal. It is written in the Devanagari script. It is recognized as one of
> the largest languages in India and is the second most widely used language
> in Nepal.
>
> Maithili Wikimedians User Group is a group of Wikimedians who work on
> various wiki projects related to Maithili language. Their mission is to
> support Maithili Wikimedians in their Wikimedia-related endeavors and to
> partner with local organizations in their use of Wikimedia projects. For
> more details, please visit -
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Maithili_Wikimedians_User_Group
>
>
> 2)  Meeting between Yohann Thomas (WMIN) & Gaurav Jhammat in
> Chandigarh on planning of WCI 2016 (7th February 2016)
>
> Here are the key discussion points summarized -
>
> a.   Creation of new email for Organizers of WCI-
> wikiconferencein...@wikimedia.in
>
> b.  Discussions on possibility of hiring event manager to ease work load
> on Organizers.
>
> c.   Discussions on Schedule of the event & possible timeline to the
> event.
>
> d.  Team creation & management of the event.
>
> e.   The meeting ended on a positive note with WMIN promising to support
> the event wholeheartedly till the end.
>
>
>
> 3) IRC for planning of WCI 2016 to be held in Chandigarh (25th and 27th
> February 2016)
>
> Venue currently decided is CGC, Landran (Mohali). For more details, please
> visit -
>
> http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikiconferenceindia/
>
>
> 4)   Wikimedia India Executive Member Noopur Raval resigned with the
> following reason provided -
>
> *I have been caught up in other professional duties and the time
> difference makes it impossible for me to stay up*
>
>
> 5)  Wikimedia Foundation Stewards elections concluded on 28 February with
> two users getting elected – Masti
>  and NahidSultan
> .
>
>
> 6)  Team Roles for WikiConference India 2016 opens up. Please sign up
> here (https://goo.gl/6zxGTe)
>
>
> 7)  WMIN interns Rudra Pratap Sinha and Srikar Kashyap take charge
> effective 1 February.
>
>
> *In the Media... *
>
> 1."Wikipedia starts working on Google-like search engine project worth
> $2.5 million"
> .
> *IBN Live*. 15 February 2016.
>
> 2.*Rob Price *(26 February 2016). "The executive director of the
> organisation behind Wikipedia just resigned"
> .
> *Business Insider India*
>
> 3.*Anshuman U Shastry* (17 February 2016). "7 Lakh Users Keep Kannada
> Wiki Going"
> .
> *The* *New Indian Expressz*
>
> 4.TOI Tech (9 February 2016). "IAMAI suggests ways to spread internet
> across India"
> .
> *The Times of India*
>
> 5."India blocks Zuckerberg's free net app"
> .* BBC*. 8 February 2016
>
> 6.*Madhav Gadgil *(6 February 2016). "Why aren’t Indians using Wikipedia
> to hold the government to account?"
> *.
> Scroll*
>
>
>
> This report is also available at:
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Reports/Feb_2016
>
>
> Regards,
> Priyanka Tiwari
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Signing off as WMIN Program Director

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,


On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Only today I realised that Ravi is leaving WMIN as staff permanently. I
> had a feeling that after the crisis is over, he will resume his post, but
> looks like I was wrong.
>
Can you please elaborate on the "CRISIS". There is hardly any communication
from wmin EC/staff about it. They dont even respond to mails sent to them.

Regards
-Sudhanwa




> Ravi did a wonderful job for Wikimedia movement in India. User:Ravidreams
> had a dream to bring together all Indian communities to and project as a
> pan-Indian community and I was really hoping that it will happen in coming
> few years. He brought together like minded fellow Wikimedians from
> different parts of India in a simple Facebook chatgroup to execute
> different pan-Indian projects and I can say, it was highly effective.
> Important projects like WLF, OCR4Wikisource etc were completed this way and
> WCI 2016 is underway. He also tried to help any community members who
> sought for it even if there was financial constraints. He has a bad habit
> of saying yes to all demands all the time and that was good for us, at
> least me.
>
> I hope, we dont have to miss volunteer Ravidreams in Wikimedia movement.
>
> Best of luck,
> Bodhisattwa
> On Feb 7, 2016 12:39 PM, "Ravishankar Ayyakkannu" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Effective 01 February 2016, I have changed the nature of my engagement
>> with Wikimedia India (WMIN) from staff to volunteer.
>>
>> I joined WMIN when the overall scene in the Indian Wikimedia movement was
>> tumultuous. It wasn’t easy getting things back on track. In the last 16
>> months, I hope I have succeeded in restoring the trust of all stakeholders
>> including WMF, CIS-A2K, and the community. It was an honour to represent
>> the movement in India, and I thank all who have helped me shoulder this
>> responsibility. I know that I have played my part in empowering at least
>> one Wikimedian to contribute more actively and nurturing at least one
>> Wikimedia community. And that gives me immense satisfaction as I sign off
>> as WMIN’s Program Director.
>>
>> At the moment, WMIN cannot hire or retain any staff until it gets FCRA
>> permanent registration and succeeds in securing next grant. I hope to
>> continue serving WMIN as a volunteer to the best of my abilities while it
>> undergoes this transition.  I will also be contributing to various
>> Wikimedia projects and events as usual in my capacity as a volunteer.
>>
>> I wish WMIN all the best and look forward to it playing a bigger role in
>> the movement as it matures.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ravi
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter - January 2016 Monthly Report

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

You are missing out many more things.

I had replied earlier to Yohan's mail. He has not replied to it.

-Sudhanwa



On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Priyanka  wrote:

> Apologies for missing out a key news.
>
> Our Program Director Mr. Ravishankar Ayyakkannu resigned. We all
> appreciate his endeavours and wish him all the best for his future.
> --
> From: Priyanka Tiwari 
> Sent: ‎16-‎02-‎2016 10:53 PM
> To: Wikimedia India Community list 
> Subject: Wikimedia India Chapter - January 2016 Monthly Report
>
> Greetings from Wikimedia India!
>
> Wikimedia India would like to share the monthly report of January 2016.
> Looking forward for your valuable feedback.
>
> == EVENTS HELD ==
>
> EVENT – Wikipedia’s 15th Anniversary celebration in Hyderabad (
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/15th_Wikipedia_Anniversary_Celebration_Hyderabad
> )
> SYNOPSIS –
> Agenda of the event included the following keynote activities:
> - 'Introduction to Wikipedia, How to utilize & How to contribute' – by
> Wikipedia contributors.
> - Panel discussions on Wikipedia and the Wiki communities led by Wikipedia
> contributors and academicians.
>
> EVENT – Workshop organized by Osmania University (OU) on 11th January 2016
> at NERTU Conference Hall (
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/Librarians_Workshop)
> SYNOPSIS –
> Agenda of the event included the following activities:
> - Fifteen Library and Information Science Professionals were identified to
> participate who are serious researchers and proactive users of latest tools
> and technologies and are invited as resource persons as they are experts in
> their field.
> - Uploading Images/Photos, Copyright issues, Creative Commons were also
> discussed. Three Telugu Wikipedians also attended the event and lent their
> expertise to the event. It was a learning event as all the participants did
> a collaborative effort "List of LIS Journals in India" available at
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LIS_Journals_in_India.
>
> EVENT – Wikipedia Takes Kolkata (on January 24) (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Kolkata_V)
> SYNOPSIS –
> Wikipedia Takes Kolkata is a planned photo scavenger hunt in the spirit of
> Wikipedia Takes the City held in Kolkata. This event is aimed at increasing
> the coverage of free photographs involving the city of Kolkata so that they
> can be used in Wikipedia articles which need pictures, as well as promoting
> awareness of Wikipedia.
>
> == NEWS ==
>
> - IRC Discussions was held on 10th January 2016 for the bidders of
> WikiConference India to take questions from fellow Wikipedians on the
> organization of the event.
> (IRC Chat at http://goo.gl/5w7OZs ).
> - Hosting city for WikiConference India 2016 is Chandigarh as per IRC
> Discussions by 18 January.
> - Wikimedia India hires two admin interns – User:Jim Carter (Rudra Pratap
> Sinha) and User:Strike Eagle (Srikar Kashyap Pulipaka) to help in the
> functioning of the chapter.
> - Wikimedia India hires one HR Intern - Ms Ashmita Bose in an attempt to
> make the organization more robust and well structured.
>
> == IN THE MEDIA ==
> 1. Wikimedia Foundation distances itself from Free Basics, Hindustan Times
> (http://goo.gl/OIzqo7)
> 2. This multilingual edit-a-thon wants to improve Indian content on
> Wikipedia, DNA (http://goo.gl/uR49Kf)
> 3. Wiki turns 15, free libraries a bonanza, The Times of India (
> http://goo.gl/WVF2U4)
> 4. Wikipedia initiative Celebrating legacy of Bangalore Blue grapes online
> (http://goo.gl/FOAHKl)
> 5. Why It's Essential To Grow IndianLanguage Wikipedias, The Huffington
> Post (http://goo.gl/NviKKX)
> 6. Kannada Wikipedia not on top of the charts, The Hindu (
> http://goo.gl/xuQdmY)
>
> I would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Srikar Kashyap for all
> his endeavours.
>
> This report is also available at:
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Reports/Jan_2016
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] GNUnify 2016 on 12,13 Feb.... Join us there...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

GNUnify 2016 is very close by. Just a day left now  Join us to gain
more knowledge on IOT. Do some hands on on devices !! Understand what
Unicode is. Create fonts in lab !!! Understand your web presence using
Drupal !! Dont miss the BIG DATA !!! All this is happening at GNUnify !!!
And its all FRE !

Have you registered?

Not yet? H. Visit http://gnunify.in and register there.
See you there on 12, 13th !!!

Regards
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[Wikimediaindia-l] GNUnify 2016 delegate registraton

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi friends,

You must be aware of our annual FOSS conerence GNUnify.

This year, it is happening on 12,13 February.
Delegate registration is already open. Schedule will be published soon.

Please register on the website www.gnunify.in.

See you at the conference.
Regards
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: Open letter to the community

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi Yohann,

I am confused by your mail.

Not able to understand whether

a. you are trying to defend (/give their perspective of) EC or you are
blaming/bashing EC
b. talking about current office bearers and/or talking about previous
office bearers who left abruptly.
c. What is the paid employees role? Even when he is in Banglore, why things
are not happening in time.
d. why your mails get blocked?

many more things if I translate the read-between-the-lines.



Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:

> I am forwarding this email since my official wikimedia india email is
> still getting blocked.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Yohann Thomas 
> Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:45 PM
> Subject: Open letter to the community
> To: Wikimedia Chapter India Google group ,
> Wikimedia India Community list 
> Cc: EC Wikimedia India ,
> Ravishankar Ayyakkannu 
>
>
> Dear Community
>
> I regret to inform you that Wikimedia India has not been give periodic
> updates regarding the activities of the chapter. This is in spite of the
> fact that the last year, we have been doing many activities & making great
> strides in reaching out to the community.Apart from that,Wikimedia India
> has also not been open about the obstacles which currently our organization
> is facing.
>
> 1.) No Monthly Reports were being circulated by the Office Bearer’s at
> Wikimedia India. Major updates regarding to different activities were given
> to the community, but a periodic update was not given to the community The
> Executive Committee (EC) along with the Program Director recognize the
> negligence in this regard. An assurance regarding the same has been
> provided in this regard. On the first Monday of every month, we shall be
> submitting our monthly report to the community.
>
> 2.) Inability to Conduct Annual General Meeting for 2014-2015: The Office
> Bearers have already been apologetic in this regard. An assurance has been
> provided that efforts are being undertaken to process it as soon as
> possible.
>
> 3.) Current Financial obstacle faced by the Chapter: We are in Process of
> renewing our FCRA license , but due to this,the Chapter at present is
> facing financial challenges.
>
> To tackle these problems ,we are taking guidance from senior community
> members & founding members of the chapter. We hope to resolve these issues
> soon & continue with all the good work we have been doing so far.
>
> --
> Yohann Thomas
> Executive Committee Member
> Wikimedia India
> http://wikimedia.in/
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Requesting meetup at Pune and Mumbai -Dec 2015

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Pavanja,

In Pune, am available on 25 afternoon (and possibly on  24 evening)

Do let me know about your schedule so that we can meet.

Regards
Sudhanwa
On Dec 20, 2015 11:39 AM, "Dr. U.B. Pavanaja" 
wrote:

> I will be in Mumbai on 22 & 23, 2015 and at Pune on 24 & 25, 2015. I would
> like to meet Marathi Wikimedians during this trip. I would like to discuss
> the creation of resources needed for Marathi taking into consideration of
> available resources, their status, identifying the resources that have to
> be created and/or improved. Let us meet and discuss these things. Please
> send me an email at pavanaja AT cis-india DOT org and let us meet.
>
>
>
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>
> Pavanaja
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] English Wikipedia has 5 million articles!

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

WOW !!

Wish all the Indian language Wikipedia  also grow equally fast.

Logo is also nice !!

-Sudhanwa
On Nov 1, 2015 9:17 PM, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:

> English Wikipedia has 5 million articles! Yippee!
>
> 5,000,354 at this moment :)
>
> Kudos to the community of English Wikipedia editors for this major
> landmark.
>
> "Imagine if the sum of human knowledge were available to all mankind." :)
>
> See the amended logo... (under fair use)
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/2eBL7hTQzjqJDDK1A
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Phase 1 of Wiki Loves Food contest extended till May 7, 2015

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Looks like the pictures in this phase a slightly better.
I am still not convinced about the whole contest process and the prizes.

Just have a look at the food pictures here:
http://finedinelove.com/art-of-food-loving-food-through-photographs/?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=discovery&utm_campaign=Finedinelove

A single good food picture takes about at least 3-4 hours in a
professional studio.
Of course I am not expecting all the pictures of that quality but see
these clicks from the contest as examples of bad pictures:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/ABSOLUTELY_TRADITIONAL_ODIYA_DISH-FROM_STATE_ODISHA-INDIA.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Appe.jpg/1280px-Appe.jpg

-Sudhanwa


On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Ravishankar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Based on community feedback, phase 1 (pilot) of Wiki Loves Food contest is
> extended till May 7, 2015.
>
> There are few slots and community nominations available still .
>
> You can register at
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Food#Phase_1:_April_15_-_April_30_extended_till_May_7
>
> Phase 2 will start from May 15, 2015.
>
> Please help us spread this update and encourage food photographers and
> bloggers you know to participate.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ravi
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Phase 1 of Wiki Loves Food contest extended till May 7, 2015

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Looks like extending the date has not much impact on the number and
quality of pictures.

There are about 440 pictures uploaded and many of them are just fruit,
vegetable pictures. Could not understand what is "aesthetic" in those
pictures.

Considering the quantity as well as quality of pictures, my opinion is
not to go ahead with the contest further. Also, all of them are not
worth those thousands of rupees prize money.

I am curious to know the statistics of images posted by general public
and nominated people.


Regards
-Sudhanwa




On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Ravishankar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Based on community feedback, phase 1 (pilot) of Wiki Loves Food contest is
> extended till May 7, 2015.
>
> There are few slots and community nominations available still .
>
> You can register at
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Food#Phase_1:_April_15_-_April_30_extended_till_May_7
>
> Phase 2 will start from May 15, 2015.
>
> Please help us spread this update and encourage food photographers and
> bloggers you know to participate.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ravi
>
> --
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Hi

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

I got this message in my spam folder. Talks about paid wikipedia.
Anyone knows about this or any similar things?

/me curious...

-Sudhanwa


-- Forwarded message --
From: Svart Magikern 
Date: Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:35 PM
Subject: Hi
To: smagik...@hotmail.com


Good afternoon!


I want to introduce you to a new entity and startup - Paid Wikipedia
Here you will be able to create articles and get paid for new articles
and editing articles

http://t-biblioteca.com/


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Announcing Phase 1 of Wiki Loves Food

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Yohann,

After going through the links and the logs etc, I am having serious
doubts about this whole project.

This is what I feel:

1. Is this really a competition? Or just a photo upload event? How
come there are community nominations for a competition? Moreover, how
language is related to pictures? Do you mean a Marathi person can not
take/upload pictures of Rasgulla or Chole-Bhature or fafda or idly?

2. The time frame of just 15 days for the first phase is too small.
And comparatively, the prizes are BIG. What is the logic behind this?
How many pictures are expected? Are those prizes have any co-relation
to the number of pictures?

3. Phase two has even BIGGER prizes !! Again, what is the logic ?
From the IRC log, I have a feeling that just to finish off the
available money, these prizes are declared. I do not think this is a
good idea and a nice way of spending money.

4. What is the eligibility of the pictures? What is the minimum
picture size? Any photo taken from a half megapixel mobile camera is
acceptable? How you will compare it with a HD quality picture taken on
a full frame digital camera or even a high end medium format camera?

5. What is the eligibility of the pictures? WLF page tells about what
is not eligible and not the other way. It seems that all images should
be having commons license. But then the judging is considering the
license of the picture also..

6. Criteria fo judging is also difficult. You can not judge picture on
"originality". Technical quality can be a good criteria but it needs
some common base which is not defined in the rules. (see point 4
above)

7. With due respect to all the judges and their knowledge, let people
understand how the judges are selected/decided and what are their
credentials. This will help people to upgrade their skills so that
they can volunteer as a judge in any further contests.

8. The fine print is really amazing !!! *** " and the organizers
reserve the right to modify these rules or to cancel the contest at
their sole discretion, even after it has started."***   WOW !! The
rules can be changed at any time !! What kind of contest is this?

Overall, even though WLF is a great idea, I feel that this whole
project is not properly planned and executed. I think WMIN should
reconsider the whole project again.

//completely non-relevent info

btw,
apart from whatever little bit of contribution to WMIN activities I
have made, I have been a photographer myself and participated in photo
exhibitions, written articles in photography magazines, got my
pictures printed in magazines and worked for a photographic society.
Whatever knowledge/wisdom collected from my photographic activities is
the background for writing all these points. Hope you don't mind.

//

Regards
-Sudhanwa




On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:49 AM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> After Intense discussions we are finally rolling out the first phase of Wiki
> Loves Food.
>
> As an introduction, Wiki Loves Food (WLF) is a public photo competition on
> Wikimedia Commons for use on Wikipedia and other project websites of the
> Wikimedia Foundation. Wikimedia India Chapter will be running this contest.
> The aim of this project is to improve the quality of pictures of different
> cuisines of India & the world. This competition is to commemorate and unite
> our Passion we have so much for Food.
>
> In this Competition, all pictures related to Indian food & Indian cuisine
> will be allowed
>
> Phase 1 of WLF will be held between April 15th to April 30th. It is a pilot
> to understand the dynamics of Commons community before the contest is
> launched for the wider Wikimedia India community. 50 participants will be
> enrolled for this in a first come first register basis.
> To register please click here .
>
>  We are also inviting 2 nominations per language community besides these 50
> participants. These community nominated participants can be seen here
>
> Prizes for this Phase are
>
> 1st Prize - INR 12000
> 2nd Prize - INR 8000
> 3rd prize - INR 5000
> Community Award - INR 5000
>
> Please remember that for Phase 1 - entries close 30th April at 23:59pm.
>
> Also remember to Upload the Pictures under Category:Wiki Loves Food
>
> You can find all the details related to the event here
>
> Cheers!!!
> Yohann Thomas
> Executive Committee member
> Wikimedia India
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Call for Volunteers for the Pilot Project Wiki Loves Food

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Yohann,

My point is very simple.
If things are still in planning, it should not be announced as a
contest. It can be a nice community drive for uploading photos for a
specific domain. No issues with that.
However, if it is announced as a contest, rules and regulations are
necessary for a contest. And they should be published well in advance
before the contest begins.

Ultimately, it is your call being the project co-ordinator.
I was just trying to go out and reach to the photographers community
beyond Wikimedia.

Regards
-Sudhanwa



On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:
> Hi Sudhanwa
>
> Actually, there was a discussion on Rules going on the WLF discussion page.
> But since there were so many suggestions coming in, I thought of moving it
> to a new page which will only consist of discussion on Rules, Jury, Dates
> and Prizes. Please find this page here - WLF Planning .
> I had already mentioned about creation of this new page in the discussion
> page .
>
> So all important decisions regarding WLF will be discussed on the WLF
> planning page.
>
> Thanks for your Support to this event !!!
>
> Yohann Thomas
> yohan...@gmail.com
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The page says it is a contest.
>> I could not see any details like rules, prizes, time frame etc. of the
>> contest on that site. If it is a contest, these details should be
>> announced from the beginning.
>>
>> I want to forward this to some photography associations and magazines
>> but without those details, there is no point sending it.
>>
>> Can someone please update those details.
>> Regards
>> -Sudhanwa
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:
>> > Hello one & all
>> >
>> > I am Proud to announce that Wikimedia India will be starting a new
>> > Project
>> > called Wiki Loves Food (WLF).
>> >
>> > WLF is a Public Photo competition on Wikimedia Commons. The main idea
>> > behind
>> > starting this is to improve the quality of Pictures of different  Indian
>> > Cuisines.
>> >
>> > This will be a Community run initiative supported by WMIN.
>> >
>> > Currently we need Volunteers to help run this Project. I invite all the
>> > community members who are interested to volunteer, to sign up at this
>> > page
>> >
>> > https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Food
>> >
>> > The above link also contains necessary information related to the
>> > competition.
>> >
>> > Thank you
>> > Yohann Thomas
>> > yohan...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Call for Volunteers for the Pilot Project Wiki Loves Food

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

The page says it is a contest.
I could not see any details like rules, prizes, time frame etc. of the
contest on that site. If it is a contest, these details should be
announced from the beginning.

I want to forward this to some photography associations and magazines
but without those details, there is no point sending it.

Can someone please update those details.
Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Yohann Thomas  wrote:
> Hello one & all
>
> I am Proud to announce that Wikimedia India will be starting a new Project
> called Wiki Loves Food (WLF).
>
> WLF is a Public Photo competition on Wikimedia Commons. The main idea behind
> starting this is to improve the quality of Pictures of different  Indian
> Cuisines.
>
> This will be a Community run initiative supported by WMIN.
>
> Currently we need Volunteers to help run this Project. I invite all the
> community members who are interested to volunteer, to sign up at this page
>
> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Food
>
> The above link also contains necessary information related to the
> competition.
>
> Thank you
> Yohann Thomas
> yohan...@gmail.com
>
> --
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> no direct control over the Wikipedia project and other websites hosted by
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Train the Trainer Program

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Nice to see the participants across various language wikis. We will
now have good trainers available for languages and places.

All the best wishes for the program.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Vishnu  wrote:
> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> The Wikipedia TTT-2015, a four day residential training workshop to groom
> leadership skills among the Indian Wikimedia volunteer community, will begin
> tomorrow. This is curated and run by CIS-A2K with the help of Wikimedia
> volunteers.
>
> About 30 Wikimedians from across 12 Indian languages and from various part
> of the country will be taking part in this workshop in Bangalore. This time
> we also have some Wikimedians from Nepal joining the program.
>
> This is the second such event held in India, the first one was in 2013.
>
> For more details see the event page here [1].
>
> Best,
> Vishnu
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Train_the_Trainer_Program/2015
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter Announcements:Executive Committee for 2014-15 takes charge

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

I am sure the induction program must have given a good knowledge
transfer for the new EC.

Congrats and best wishes to the new EC and the new office bearers.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
> Dear Wikimedia India Chapter members and other interested stakeholders in
> the list,
>
> Dear members,
>
> At the outset, on behalf of Wikimedia India Executive Committee for 2013-14,
> I would like to thank you all for the support for the Chapter during the
> past year, as we strive hard to complete the difficult phase of the Chapter.
> I am glad to report that the huddle phase is now complete, as the Chapter is
> financially healthy, staffed and has conducted AGM and Elections for EC of
> six vacancies successfully. I would like to place on record my thanks to all
> co-founders and EC team members,volunteers from members and community, , WMF
> staff,WMF board members and partners and consultants for all the
> contributions and support towards reaching this important milestone.
>
> Last weekend we had inducted the newly elected EC members with an EC
> induction program at Bangalore. As part of it, we have completed the office
> bearer elections for the 2014-15. I would like to introduce the new team
> that has taken charge.
>
> The results of the  office bearer elections are as follows:
>
> Dr. Abhiraj Suryawanshi : President
> Jayanta Nath : Secretary
> Sanket Oswal  : Treasurer
> Priyanka Tiwari  : Member
> Yohann Varun Thomas  : Member
> Dr. Ekbal Bappukunju  : Member
> Nikhil Kawale  : Member
>
> We are confident that under the new EC's leadership Wikimedia Movement and
> Chapter in India will grow to greater heights in the year to come. We
> request you all to extend the support and actively engage with Wikimedia
> India to achieve the vision of sharing free knowledge with every one for
> building a Knowledge Society.
>
> Please join me in wishing the new team all success.
>
> Cheers
> Jayanta Nath
> Secretary,Wikimedia India
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Induction Workshop of Wikimedia India chapter

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

All the best wishes to the new EC and for a fruitful induction program.

Sudhanwa
On Dec 13, 2014 7:05 PM, "Jayanta Nath"  wrote:

> Dear members and other concerned friends,
>
>
> As you all know, we recently completed the election process for Wikimedia
> India Chapter Executive Committee (EC) Elections for year 2014 and 6 new
> members were recently elected.
>
>
> As part of the Transition process, an Induction Workshop is going on for
> the newly elected members so that the new EC can take over from the
> outgoing members.
>
>
> With an agreement from all the EC members, the Workshop is being  held
> from the 13th – 15th Dec in Kothanur, Bangalore.
>
>
> As part of the Induction process past EC Arun Ramarathnam has agreed to
> help with the Induction. Among the outgoing EC members, Karthik Nadar and
> Nikita Belavate will be attending the Workshop to help with the Transition.
>
>
> Agendas for the Workshop Include –
>
>- · Background on Wikimedia  Globally
>
>
>- · Wikimedia in India – Past, Present and Future Path
>
>
>- · Community Interaction
>
>
>- · EC Roles & Responsibilities
>
>
> Thank you and regards,
>
> Jayanta Nath
> President
> Wikimedia India Chapter
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Participation in CMDA expo.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

PLUG (www.plug.org.in), Mozilla (mozilla.org) and Wikimedia
India(www.wikimedia.in) are participating in CMDA IT expo in Pune on
11-14 Dec 2014. Do visit the expo and our stall. We also need
volunteers. Please let us know if you are interested. Check out
http://www.cmdaitexpo.com for details.

Regards,
--Sudhanwa

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Updated Aksharyogini font release in Open Font License

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Last year, on 1st November, we released updated Aksharyogini font.
This was a revised and updated font from the earlier font family
release of Aksharyogini. Moreover, it was released under Open Font
License.

Today, on the ninth death anniversary of Yogini Joglekar while
remembering her, we wish to thank all the users for their love and
support. The total download count from the official release website
http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com has already crossed 16000 mark.

Please let us know about any websites who are
using/referring/cross-linking or just simply mentioning the fonts.
(eg. http://evimarsh.vmou.ac.in/hi) We encourage you to freely
use/share/distribute the same on your websites.

Thanks again,
-Sudhanwa Jogalekar

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
 wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> You may be aware that we (my family) have released a font family earlier.
> Here is some background if you are not aware of it.
>
> On the first death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar(my aunt), our family
> released AksharYogini (Normal) Font on 1st Nov. 2006. This font is primarily
> for Marathi language but can also be used for Hindi (for any language using
> Devanagari). It also has English support. Later on, on the occasion of
> Gudhipadwa (Chaitra Shuddha 1, 1931; that is 27th March 2009) , we released
> the additional fonts to complete the "AksharYogini font family". This font
> family was/is made available on the site http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com
> for free usage/distribution/sharing.
>
>
> Today, on the occasion of Eighth Death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar, we
> are now releasing an updated "AksharYogini font".  This font is also
> available on the same website http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com
>
> This is an updated font and has support for the new (MS Windows) operating
> systems where the internal mechanism for font rendering is changed. Also, it
> has additional characters for the current Unicode standard and the Rupee
> Sign is also included.
>
> Most important is the licensing. The new release is under the Open Font
> License. As such, all Linux distributions will be able to freely use it in
> their packaging.
>
> Please feel free to use, share, distribute the new font. You can download it
> from http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com .
>
> Give us feedback on my email id or the official id for the font "
> aksharyogini at sudhanwa.com " You can also comment on the guestbook on the
> website.
> Do share this news and also the font.
>
> Wishing you a Very Happy Diwali !!
>
> Thanks and regards
> -Sudhanwa
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Whenever there is  DD or MM format , there is a confusion. Month should be
mmm.
On Oct 10, 2014 11:23 AM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" 
wrote:

> +1 Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>
> The ISO 8601 format <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601> for date too
> corresponds to the same above (-MM-DD) format.
>
> Real advantages of this format are (1) Non-ambiguity, (2) Correct sort
> order even when data is processed as pure text and (3) international
> consistency
>
> Certainly, this is one of the subset of CLDR too.
>
> I suggest all Wikimedia projects should have this format as default, but
> again, customizable per user preferences.
>
> -Viswam
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sudhanwa, while I don't know about Indian language projects, I do know
>> that on the English Wikipedia, we have (or atleast used to) a standard date
>> format of -MM-DD. This is a reversed order which I assume would be
>> relatively easy to follow since even machines understand it.
>> Cheerio.
>>  On 09-Oct-2014 11:24 pm, "Sudhanwa Jogalekar" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised.
>>> In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside
>>> India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This
>>> cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A
>>> simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the
>>> pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone.
>>> This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time,
>>> logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings.
>>>
>>> Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier,
>>> could be taken up for implementation.
>>> Regards
>>> -Sudhanwa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined
>>> as
>>> > the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
>>> >
>>> http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
>>> >
>>> > Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects
>>> have
>>> > "Asia/Kolkata" as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati
>>> Wikipedia), but
>>> > some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is
>>> UTC. So
>>> > for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource,
>>> then
>>> > the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it
>>> will be
>>> > UTC.
>>> >
>>> > I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
>>> > timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to
>>> be
>>> > added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each
>>> site's
>>> > community.
>>> >
>>> > If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite
>>> Wikimedia uses
>>> > the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up
>>> for
>>> > community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to
>>> change
>>> > it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).
>>> >
>>> > If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no
>>> idea how
>>> > to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you!
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised.
In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside
India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This
cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A
simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the
pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone.
This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time,
logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings.

Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier,
could be taken up for implementation.
Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as
> the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
> http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
>
> Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have
> "Asia/Kolkata" as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia), but
> some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is UTC. So
> for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource, then
> the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it will be
> UTC.
>
> I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
> timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be
> added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's
> community.
>
> If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia uses
> the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up for
> community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to change
> it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).
>
> If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea how
> to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
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> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
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> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IMPORTANT: Future of work in India -- a community consultation in Bangalore

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

For Marathi, things are not much changed since WCI 2011. You can check
out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5dpA2LUTDU

If possible, lets discuss on those points in the meeting. (More or
less, similar situation is likely to be there for some other Indian
language Wikipedias too.)

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu
 wrote:
> Hi Sudhanwa,
>
> Based on
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-September/011672.html
>
> The agenda for the meeting is likely to cover these issues:
>
> *Introductions, expectations, ground rules
> *SWOT (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats) analysis and sharing
> stories of individual contributors, diverse language communities and
> projects
> *SWOT for India and Indic languages across South Asia
> *Visioning for the movement in India
> * Strategies and action plans for the movement going forward (next six
> months, next year, next two years)
> *  Roles, responsibilities and rules of engagement between the different
> actors in India
>
> To give few examples on how to approach this agenda, please see:
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/oligoglot/wmf-in-swot
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/oligoglot/wmf-biennial-prioritiesmemo
>
> and
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/oligoglot/wikimedia-foundation-in-india
>
> These slides are 3 years old but are relevant still.
>
> //It is not clear if we want to discuss on on-wiki topics(copy-pasted
> material, rules and regulations for admin activities etc.) //
>
> No. This is not a consultation about each wiki project's internal policies.
> They are best evolved over a period of time through direct discussions on
> wiki directly guided by
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars
>
> and based on precedents in other wikis and local community's vision.
>
> //off-wiki(real world events like seminars, academis, GLAM etc)
> activities or any other things beyond these eg. technical things like
> language support and WYSWYG editor etc.//
>
> Above are various strategies that answers the questions "HOW can we grow
> Wikimedia in India".
>
> In my understanding, this consultation will predominantly focus on "WHAT"
> questions.
>
> WHAT is the potential, weakness, threats and opportunities for Wikimedia
> movement in India.
>
> WHAT we should be doing and WHAT we should not be doing.
>
> WHO does WHAT and HOW is also an important question but that can only come
> after we define the WHAT.
>
> Ravi
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IMPORTANT: Future of work in India -- a community consultation in Bangalore

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

The communiyt consultation is just a few days from now.
Can we have an agenda published now so that people can think on it,
interact with others in the community and then come up with their
views at the meeting.

It is not clear if we want to discuss on on-wiki topics(copy-pasted
material, rules and regulations for admin activities etc.) or
off-wiki(real world events like seminars, academis, GLAM etc)
activities or any other things beyond these eg. technical things like
language support and WYSWYG editor etc.

The agenda can at least give us a direction to the thought process and
come up with right ideas. People have many points in all these
directions.

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa




On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>
> (this is important and a rare opportunity -- please do take a few moments to
> read.)
>
> I would like to draw your attention to a major piece of news:
>
> The Wikimedia Foundation is convening a community consultation on the future
> of Wikimedia work in India, to be held in October in Bangalore, with
> significant representation from across India, the different projects, and
> the different language communities.
>
> Please see the following page on Meta for details, context, and to begin
> discussion the delegates you would like to see participating.  All costs
> will be borne by the Foundation.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Community_Consultation_2014
>
> Let's try and keep discussion on the talk page of that page on Meta, so
> everyone can follow, even people not on this list.
>
> Also, your help in forward this widely, translating as necessary, etc.,
> would be MUCH appreciated.  Again, this is an important opportunity, and we
> need to ensure we get every community's attention.
>
> I look forward to this conversation very much!
>
>Asaf
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia Community Meet & Lunch Bangalore 21/Sep/2014 Sunday 1.00 PM

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Jayanta,

Can you please update us about the board meeting and other activities
that happened in Banglore.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> The Executive Committee of Wikimedia India Chapter is holding its Q2 Board
> Meeting and a two-day Board Camp  on 20th (Saturday) and 21st(Sunday) of
> September at Bangalore.
>
> As part of the board's induction and outreach, the EC is also arranging  an
> informal Wikimedia  Community Meet of all Wikimedians around Bangalore.
>
> The community meet is meant for general interaction and feedback among
> themselves as well as with the EC members and the A2K team of CIS.
> There will be no formal presentations or other formalities, perhaps for a
> short self-introduction session by each participant.
> Vishnu and his team from A2K has kindly agreed to join us for this meet.
> They are also helping us in conducting the board Camp efficiently.
>
> This is arranged along with a buffet lunch. You are encouraged to bring your
> spouse and/or children along with you.
>
> Event:
>
> Wikimedia Bangalore Community Lunch Meet with Chapter EC and A2K(CIS)
> Venue: CIS Office Premises, Indira Nagar, Bangalore
> Time: 1.00 PM
> Date: Sunday, 21/09/2014
>
> Any Wikimedians in and around Bangalore, (any Wikimedia contributor, not
> necessarily a chapter member) are welcome. You are also spread the word
> around to such among your friends.
>
> [However, to have a rough count of attendees, we request you to RSVP (inform
> us of your intention to participate in advance), preferably by Friday Night
> (19/9/2014) or at least by Saturday afternoon by way of email, SMS or phone
> or Chapter's wiki.]
>
> Contact & RSVP:
>
> Email: Jayanta@  / Nikita  @ wikimedia.in +  Vishnu @ cis
> Phone / SMS: Jayanta  (+91 9836294438)
>
> Thank you and regards,
>
> Jayanta Nath
> President
> Wikimedia India Chapter
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Viswam,

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:41 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Kindly see this page on the public wiki of Wikimedia India Chapter
> announcing the newly reconstituted Director Board.
>
> As a matter of self-discipline, Wikimedia India Chapter will try to abstain
> from discussions on its own internal affairs in this forum / mail list to
> the maximum possible extend.
> Everyone is welcome to inquire and discuss any topics related to the chapter
> on appropriate pages or talk pages within the public wiki of the chapter
> mentioned above. From the chapter, we assure you prompt and responsible
> responses there, abiding by the very culture of Wikimedia missions.

The current messup has happened because of absolutely no response from
the EC to any members and/or community on any of the
forums-wiki/mailing list etc. Whatever you are telling about abstaing
from discussions is just a continuation of the same.

The wiki page about the new members of the EC was created just
yesterday and as Pradeep rightly pointed out, new members were
mentioned as delegates on the consultation page much earlier. Are you
hiding something here?


IIRC, there was a resolution earlier stating that all kind of
decisions taken by EC are to be made public. That has not been
followed for quite a long time. At least from the time I have asking
for updates. Can you please check the internal wiki and find that
resolution and work accordingly.

Please note that even though this mail is addressed to you, it is
meant for all in the EC. In one of the mails you had mentioned that
you will not respond to any mails other than directing to you. Thats
why this communication is addressed to you in a hope that at least one
person will read and act on it.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

>
>
> With regards,
> Viswanathan Prabhakaran
> Treasurer,
> (On behalf of the Executive Committee)
> Wikimedia India Chapter
>
> viswapra...@wikimedia.in
> Wikimedia user:viswaprabha
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
>  wrote:
>>
>> Dear Srikanth,
>>
>> Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
>> wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
>> studying the MOA.
>>
>> From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
>> members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
>> it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
>> about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
>> by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
>> justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
>> reason.
>>
>> It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
>> mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
>> on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
>> EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
>> Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)
>>
>> Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
>> way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
>> you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
>> not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
>> for the chapter.
>>
>> Regards
>> -Sudhanwa
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>>  wrote:
>> > To the remaining EC members,
>> > This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
>> >
>> > 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal
>> > year,
>> > ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to
>> > reinstate
>> > membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her
>> > membership as
>> > on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was
>> > the
>> > first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week
>> > of
>> > July itself.
>> >
>> > 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
>> > second and third EC member loss out of seven.
>> >
>> > 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were
>> > passed
>> > regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
>> > However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
>> > July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
>> > Chair, thus making both the meetings and 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-l] Board Meeting Update

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

+ 1
 On Aug 18, 2014 9:04 PM, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:

> Bishakha, as one who benefitted from your advice and friendship, let me
> also add my word of thanks especially during the difficult days of
> WikiConference 2011. We trust we will find things to do in common so that
> we remain in touch! :)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Bishakha Datta 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this lovely email, Theo. It means a lot. Flashed me straight
>> back to all the fun we had together, all of which helped balance out the
>> tough debates. :)
>>
>> In case people are wondering, my term ends December 2014 - I'll be active
>> until then, but am not seeking re-appointment for another two-year term.
>> Being on the WMF board is extremely rewarding but a significant time
>> commitment - one that I'm finding increasingly hard to fulfil, which is why
>> I'm stepping down at the end of the year.
>>
>> But I'm going to continue to do other (less time-consuming) stuff in the
>> movement after my term ends, so this is nowhere near goodbye.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bishakha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>
>>> I am forwarding this update from the board below, in case this was
>>> overlooked. It seems relevant to the Indian community. It's sad to learn
>>> that Bishakha will not be seeking re-appointment to the board at the end of
>>> the year. The board, the community and the movement at large was always
>>> better for having her in it.
>>>
>>> I want to thank her for a lot of things, but I'm not sure if this is the
>>> right time or if I'll be online at the right time. In any case, I want to
>>> say I'm so grateful for her years of service and perseverance through many
>>> contentious topics. I'm the first to admit that we've certainly had our
>>> share of disagreements, and passionate debates over the year, but we also
>>> shared more than a few good laughs in person. I still remember when
>>> Bishakha was trying to tell me the correct pronunciation of "Entschuldigen
>>> sie bitte" over dinner, I'm sure my pronunciation didn't improve but she
>>> tried patiently and resiliently for more than an hour. Our disagreements
>>> stemmed mostly from relatively professional topics related to the board and
>>> the direction things were going, and I'm probably at fault for a lot of
>>> negativity during those times - I'm sorry about that Bishakha. She joined
>>> the board at a difficult time when the foundation was expanding and going
>>> through a lot of big changes, there weren't a lot of female Indian members
>>> around the board or the community back then but she always represented the
>>> Indian community with a smile, grace and resilience and tried to be as
>>> inclusive as possible along the way. I have nothing but the highest opinion
>>> of her personally, she was always warm and good-natured in all our personal
>>> interactions. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the Indian community who
>>> feels the same.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the hard-work Bishakha. You will be missed, Ma'am.
>>>
>>> Warm regards
>>> Theo
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Jan-Bart de Vreede 
>>> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:54 PM
>>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Board Meeting Update
>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone
>>>
>>> While the minutes of the Board of Trustees meeting will arrive in due
>>> time I wanted to update you on some internal matters at this point because
>>> there have been some changes in the board composition.
>>>
>>> Ana Toni joined our board last year but unfortunately the time demands
>>> placed upon a Wikimedia Board member were not compatible with her other
>>> commitments. This has given the board something to think about. We aim to
>>> be a board that is able to incorporate outside expertise to increase our
>>> effectiveness and possible candidates are often not able to commit the time
>>> which we currently require.. In the coming period we want to have a look at
>>> the time which is demanded of a board member (especially our in person
>>> meetings which require a lot of travel) and look at which activities we
>>> need to perform as a board. We want to thank Ana for her contributions. The
>>> insights gained from her position as Chair of Greenpeace International were
>>> especially useful to us as a board. We are sad to see her go, but we hope
>>> to keep her in “our space”.
>>>
>>> Bishakha Datta joined our board in March 2010 and has indicated to us
>>> that she is not available for re-appointment after her term runs out in
>>> December of this year. We will take the time to properly thank her for her
>>> great contributions when her term formally ends in December.
>>>
>>> While these things are part of of the normal turnover of the composition
>>> of the board (and are also an opportunity to attract new fields of
>>> expertise as needed) there is a matter of board stability during the first
>>> year of the tenure of our new Executive Director. In respons

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN EC in minority

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Srikanth,

Looks like people are really having thorough knowledge of the MOA. I
wish if they could spend more time in actual working instead of
studying the MOA.

From what ever you have said and considering the resignations of 3
members including the President in the recent past, on the face of it,
it seems to me that these 3 people were completely aware of the facts
about the number game and they wanted to stall the operations of WMIN
by deliberate resignations. None of the resignations have any strong
justifications given. In fact, Pranav has not uttered a word about any
reason.

It is a shame that EC members are fighting like this on a public
mailing list and not updating the members (and the community at large)
on what is happening behind the scenes. ( I am following up with the
EC for more than a few months and not getting any response from them.
Probably, all of them were actually trying to do a shutdown that time)

Whatever the current EC is doing, let them do the work in their own
way and instead of saying that their decisions are void, if you wish,
you can go to the authorities and file a complaint about it. If you do
not want to get into that, just keep quiet and do some positive work
for the chapter.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
 wrote:
> To the remaining EC members,
> This is with reference to recent changes in the chapter.
>
> 1. As Viswa pointed out in the MoA, membership runs during the fiscal year,
> ie April to March. Thereafter, a 3 month grace period is given to reinstate
> membership. It is noted that Nikita Belavate did not renew her membership as
> on 1st of July, hence ceasing to be a member of the chapter. This was the
> first EC member lost. Sowmyan notified the EC of this in the first week of
> July itself.
>
> 2. On 27th August, Pranav and Moksh resigned from the EC. This was the
> second and third EC member loss out of seven.
>
> 3. An EC meeting was held on 31st August. Certain resolutions were passed
> regarding coopting a new member and appointing new office bearers etc.
> However a non EC member, Nikita, who ceased to be an EC member as of 1st
> July due to non renewal of membership was allowed to participate by the
> Chair, thus making both the meetings and resolutions illegal, null and void.
>
> 4. I resigned on the 3rd of September, making it the loss of EC member
> number 4. As per the MoA, Article VII, 1c, the board needs to have a minimum
> quorum of 4 members to function, hence with only 3 EC members left (Jayanta,
> Karthik, Karthik), no meeting can be held and no resolution can be passed.
>
> 5. Since the chapter is now in a limbo, I suggest that the three EC members
> now contact the Registrar of Societies, Government of Karnataka and ask them
> to appoint an administrator to conduct the Annual General Meeting and
> elections As Soon As Possible and run the organisation in the interim.
>
> 6. WMF employees, please take note that the Chapter EC is in minority and
> cannot take any decision at the moment.
>
> P.S: I understand a few days after the renewal of membership, Nikita put in
> a fresh application for membership. However, it was not put up to the EC
> prior to my leaving. Since the EC is now in minority, it cannot approve hers
> or any other new applications until elections are held. If an administrator
> is appointed by the Registrar of Societies, the administrator would have the
> power to approve new applications.
>
>
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> Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
> What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
> back.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IMPORTANT: Future of work in India -- a community consultation in Bangalore

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:51 AM, Viswanathan Prabhakaran
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> For your information,
>
> (As recorded here: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Announcements/2014-2015)
>
> Wikimedia India Chapter Announcement
>
>
> The Board meeting conducted via telecon on 10th September night has decided
> to present their intention to participate in this discussion and nominate
> the following in their own personal capacity as well as representatives of
> the Wikimedia India Chapter.
>
> Delegates
>
> Jayata Nath, President (Kolkata)
> Viswanathan Prabhakaran, Treasurer (Thrissur, Kerala)
> Sowmyan Tirumurti, Executive Manager (Bangalore)
> Kartik Nadar, Board Member (Mumbai)
> Nikita Belavate, Board Member (Mumbai)
> Dr. B. Ekbal, Board Member (Kottayam, Kerala)
> Nikhil Kawle, Board Member ( Bangalore)

Can someone from the EC please tell us when the last two people in the
above list were added as board members? On what basis they were
selected? Was there any such announcement? May be I am seriously
missing something.

With so much of turbulence happening in the EC, people leaving without
giving reasons, new board members getting added etc etc, can the EC
please let us know on the work what is currently going on in the EC.
At least they can answer the queries raised by the election committee.

Regards
-Sudhanwa



>
> (It is expected that Radhakrishna Arvapally, Secretary, may not be able to
> take part in this meeting as he continues to be on an official trip abroad
> during these dates.)
>
> Venue
>
> The EC has further affirmed its preference to conduct the consultancy
> meeting at Bangalore,considering various logistic and infrastructural
> merits.
>
> Thank you.
>
> (For Execeutive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter),
> Viswanathan Prabhakaran
> Treasurer
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>>
>> We have confirmed the dates of the consultation: October 4th and 5th
>> (weekend).  If you haven't do so yet, please do give some thought to the
>> Delegates and Venue sections of the organization page:
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014
>>
>> I hope some community conversations about delegates are taking place.  As
>> I said 5 days ago, we'd rather have communities nominate delegates, than to
>> have to select people ourselves.
>>
>> For communities that do not come up with community nominations, we will be
>> selecting people on the basis of proxy measures such as levels of engagement
>> on wiki, on lists, and good standing (not banned etc.), but this may well
>> not be the optimal delegates from the community's standpoint.
>>
>>Asaf
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Asaf Bartov 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello again, everyone.
>>> (I would appreciate forwarding/translation, again)
>>>
>>> I hope discussions are underway about nominating delegates for this
>>> meeting, as we will need to begin arranging logistics in a couple of weeks.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, one of you anonymously offered comments on the talk
>>> page, and I have now addressed them, here:
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014
>>>
>>> I'm particularly calling out to your attention that the meeting is not
>>> expected to set the future of work in India, or to bind communities into
>>> accepting whatever is agreed upon at the meeting.  On the contrary, it is a
>>> joint visioning and strategizing meeting, whose final output, ideally, would
>>> be a roadmap, a set of proposals, and a shared understanding of different
>>> possible roles of organizations and informal structures in India, all of
>>> which would be offered back, on-wiki, to the communities to discuss and
>>> develop further, or not.
>>>
>>> Some communities may embrace some of the ideas, others may object or just
>>> choose not to adopt them for now, and others still may struggle to even have
>>> that kind of conversation.  All of these outcomes are valid, and we are
>>> decidedly not looking for (another) one-size-fits-all strategy for all of
>>> India.
>>>
>>> Please do visit the page and help us decide the venue and begin building
>>> the participant list.  We would much rather have communities nominate, as
>>> well as individuals self-nominate, to participate, than having to select
>>> whom to invite ourselves (though of course we would do that to ensure
>>> minimal representation, if we need to).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>Asaf
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Asaf Bartov 
>>> wrote:

 Dear fellow Wikimedians,

 (this is important and a rare opportunity -- please do take a few
 moments to read.)

 I would like to draw your attention to a major piece of news:

 The Wikimedia Foundation is convening a community consultation on the
 future of Wikimedia work in India, to be held in October in Bangalore, with
 significant representation from across India, the different projects, and
 the different language comm

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter: Current state of affairs

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Any further updates on the activities?

Looks like I am the only person asking questions to WMIN. Somehow, I
am getting more and more inputs and more questions from people from
the community.

Raising one such query that needs some serious answers.

It is understood that during the year, some 4-5 members of the EC went
for foreign tours for some Wikimedia related activities. There was no
consultation whatsoever with the community before going and there was
absolutely no report of any kind after they came back.

What was the purpose of their visits and what they achieved there? Who
funded for their tours?

Community would like to get answers to these questions. I will prefer
that the individual members who went abroad give their individual
briefing on the list publicly.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
> Dear Wikimedia India Chapter members and other interested stakeholders in
> the list,
>
> Dear members,
>
> The Executive committee of Wikimedia India has held an emergency
> teleconference on their official DSNL channel on 31 Aug 2014. As salient
> items on the agenda, the following topics were discussed and decided upon:
>
> 1. Earlier, Radhakrishna Arvapally, a senior chapter member and former Chair
> of Bangalore SIG, was co-opted by an emergency resolution. The resolution
> was passed unanimously. The resolution had also proposed another senior
> member. However, due to heavy personal engagements, the second nominee
> requested the EC to exempt from such considerations.
>
> Radhakrishna was invited to the telecon and was officially welcomed to be
> part of the EC.
>
> 2. Jayanta Nath, a senior Wikipedian from Kolkata and EC member, was
> unanimously elected as the new President of the Wikimedia India Chapter.
> Also, Radhakrishna Arvapally and Viswanathan Prabhakaran were elected as the
> new Secretary and Treasurer of the chapter respectively.
>
> 3. Any decision about hiring is kept on hold for now. The current EC agreed
> together that the opinion of the new EC (emerging through the upcoming
> general elections) should also be taken on-board for a major decision like
> this, since they are the ones to deal with the newly hired candidate(s)for a
> longer term.
>
> 4. Another extra ordinary EC Telecon was scheduled to be conducted
> tentatively on 02 September 2014, 9.00 PM to take up other urgent matters
> pending for decisions.
>
> This is for the general information for all chapter members and other
> interested stakeholders.
>
> Thank You,
>
> Jayanta Nath
>
> President
>
> Wikimedia India Chapter
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Anivar Aravind
 wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>>
>> I am also surprised to see no reply.  Arjuna, do you have any further
>> information?
>
>
> Update on Election commitee process on WMIN Elections is here
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014


Any further updates?

Regards
-Sudhanwa



>
> Anivar Aravind
> Member , Election Committee , WMIN Chapter
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Many user groups instead of One Chapter?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen
 wrote:
> Hoi,
> Ok.. so explain to me why the chapter is not able to provide funding for
> viable projects. Do remember that the qualifiers for funding are essentially
> the same; they have to pass the requirements of the WMF. When the chapter
> has its own independent funding, it can allocate as it sees fit.

Chapters own individual fund raising is negligible. As such WMIN needs
to be dependent on WMF. From whatever the money chapter has and can
allocate to various projects, they are doing it properly.

> I seriously do not understand what drives you. I only notice negative
> attitudes, I do not understand how you think a chapter should/could operate.
> The only thing I notice is how you blame others for the woes of the Indian
> chapter and as a consequence attack and thereby destroy opportunities that
> become lost for now for India,

There are ample opportunities everywhere. But because of multiple
presence of (support) authority(?), community gets split and confused.
Compared to other countries where people go directly to the chapter
for support and may be to WMF (through GAC or other mechanisms) if
that does not work out. In India, we have A2K also in picture where
people from community can get all kind of support without much of
asking or justification. Compared to this, being handled by volunteers
and not paid staff, WMIN has many restrictions and delays etc. As
such, the functioning itself may be felt as a deterrent to the
volunteers. Over and above this, for the volunteers, WMF option is
always there to do some projects. In this situation, it becomes very
difficult for the chapter to keep up the good work, build/maintain
community confidence and at the same time keep WMF happy by answering
all kinds of questions and justifications for funds.(Not to forget all
the regulatory compliances). All this is causing serious confusion and
conflict in community mind and they do not take the required
initiative to take up things further.

Please also understand that we have multiple language communities here
that too across various states and Governments and they are culturally
different in thinking and functioning. You can safely say it is
comparable to managing various chapters across all the European
countries whereas we have just one chapter for all of them.

Personally, I feel (and many more also feel the same way) that the
root cause of the problem was/is WMF's direct presence (currently
through CIS-A2K). and their decisions without taking any inputs from
the community or even understanding how communities in India work.

Hopefully, the community consultation that is coming up next month
will possibly help ease out the situation. From the replies on the
talk page, it is very clear that WMF is not committing anything about
the implementations from the outcome of this consultation. But I am
hopeful just like many many others who seriously want the activities
to grow in India.

I hope I have answered your queries.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Farewell

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Now that my name is already put up in the mail, this is just for some
clarification.

At the time of the telephonic interview, I was not aware of the salary
structure to be offered to the person. Also, I was not aware that the
offer was for probation period only.
My recommendations/comments were sent after the telecon.

The resignation episodes happened later on and I had sent my comments
about the hiring to be put on hold considering the resignations.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
 wrote:
> Dear EC, Members of the Chapter,
> I am not pleased with the way things are working out right now. The EC
> passed a resolution to appoint a senior Indic language Wikipedian as the
> Program Director on the recommendation of a four member committee consisting
> of Jayanta, Sudhanwa, Moksh, and Naveen for a probation period of three
> months, starting on the 1st of September 2014. Subsequently, the newly
> reorganised EC has done every bit to prevent the appointment of said person.
> It is with extreme displeasure that I have to state that this kind of
> nepotism at the hands of vested interests prevents me from working well. Due
> to this, I am resigning as an member of the Executive Committee with
> immediate effect.
>
> --
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> Treasurer,
> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WMIN-Members] Fwd: That's all folks!

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Pradeep Mohandas
 wrote:
> hi Sudhanwa,
>
> You should know. You were once President of the Indian Chapter as
> well. Sowmyan has replied to the mails today on the Members list.
> Better late than never?

What should I know?
Sowmyan has replied about the  membership. Even though it is
responding to one of my earlier mails (some 3 months old), that is
essentially a response to mail raising some points by Vishwa. In my
opinion, someone from EC should answer it and not Sowmyan.


> We can request people to respond to queries. There is not much we can
> do if they don't except to convene an Extraordinary General Body
> Meeting and request for the removal of the members of the Executive
> Committee with a 2/3rd majority backing you. Those are limitations
> placed on members by law. Fortunately or unfortunately.

I agree.

>
> Are you claiming that you do not have confidence in the members you
> have elected to the Executive Committee?

Considering the no resonse situation for months, two EC members
sending mails raising doubts in members mind and 2 EC members
including President resigning, frankly speaking, now I do not have any
confidence. I believe, it is the same case with most of the members.

>
> I am sorry but *I* have better work editing and contributing to
> Wikipedia than to follow up with your questions to the Executive
> Committee. I find that contributing on-wiki is a more satisfying
> experience than participating in conversations that seem to be loaded.
> I know understand why many Wikipedians stay off this list and don't
> want to come close to administration related work of the Chapter. They
> are screwed if they take action and they're screwed if they're not.

Wikipedia is a fair world. If you do good, you get appreciated. If you
do something bad, you get screwed. If you dont do anything for which
you are responsible and elected by people and blame others, you surely
get screwed.

>
> This is the last you will hear from me on this topic on this list
> since you insist on putting words in my mouth.

Your choice. Respected.
(I have seen many such responses from you in the past including
leaving the chapter, leaving mailing lists etc etc. This one is an
addition to it)

Regards
-Sudhanwa


>
> Thanks,
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep
>
> On 29 August 2014 23:47, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Ashwin Baindur
>>  wrote:
>>> The community deserves an explanation as to why the somnolence of recent
>>> months and a sudden unexplained resignation. You may have resigned but its
>>> definitely your & Moksh's responsibility to actively cooperate and hand over
>>> the baton which you did not carry to the finish line.
>>
>> +100
>>
>> I have been asking queries to the EC for many months now and nobody
>> has shown a courtesy even to acknowledge my mails. Apart from
>> answering queries, the members deserve and explanation of not
>> responding too.
>>
>> btw,
>> If Pradeep is confident of the other 5 people in the EC, may I request
>> him to followup with them to respond to the queries raised on the
>> lists.
>>
>> -Sudhanwa
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Pradeep Mohandas
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FYI. From the members list, I understand that Pranav has also quit from
>>>> the Executive Committee of the Chapter.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Pranav Curumsey 
>>>> Date: 27 August 2014 20:06:29 IST
>>>> To: Wikimedia Members List 
>>>> Subject: [WMIN-Members] Fwd: That's all folks!
>>>> Reply-To: wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com
>>>>
>>>> FYI
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>> From: Pranav Curumsey 
>>>> Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:03 PM
>>>> Subject: That's all folks!
>>>> To: Wikimedia India EC 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To,
>>>> Executive Committee
>>>> Wikimedia India
>>>>
>>>> I hereby resign from my position as member of the Executive Committee at
>>>> Wikimedia India Chapter with immediate effect. Kindly take note.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Pranav Curumsey
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WMIN-Members] Fwd: That's all folks!

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Ashwin Baindur
 wrote:
> The community deserves an explanation as to why the somnolence of recent
> months and a sudden unexplained resignation. You may have resigned but its
> definitely your & Moksh's responsibility to actively cooperate and hand over
> the baton which you did not carry to the finish line.

+100

I have been asking queries to the EC for many months now and nobody
has shown a courtesy even to acknowledge my mails. Apart from
answering queries, the members deserve and explanation of not
responding too.

btw,
If Pradeep is confident of the other 5 people in the EC, may I request
him to followup with them to respond to the queries raised on the
lists.

-Sudhanwa


>

>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Pradeep Mohandas
>  wrote:
>>
>> FYI. From the members list, I understand that Pranav has also quit from
>> the Executive Committee of the Chapter.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Pranav Curumsey 
>> Date: 27 August 2014 20:06:29 IST
>> To: Wikimedia Members List 
>> Subject: [WMIN-Members] Fwd: That's all folks!
>> Reply-To: wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Pranav Curumsey 
>> Date: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:03 PM
>> Subject: That's all folks!
>> To: Wikimedia India EC 
>>
>>
>> To,
>> Executive Committee
>> Wikimedia India
>>
>> I hereby resign from my position as member of the Executive Committee at
>> Wikimedia India Chapter with immediate effect. Kindly take note.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Pranav Curumsey
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] My resignation as President and EC member of Wikimedia India chapter

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Ashwin Baindur
 wrote:
> Sorry to hear that, Moksh. Please ensure a smooth transition to whomever is
> to take up the reins of this organisation. Wishing you all the very best in
> your private and professional life!

+1

I hope Moksh will not leave without closing the pending things
mentioned by Jayanta and he continues till the time a new EC takes
over.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your work toward our shared mission.  Enjoy the precious time
>> with the little one. :)
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2014 7:34 AM, "Moksh Juneja"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> It's with a heavy heart that I would like to announce my resignation from
>>> as the President and Executive Committee of the Wikimedia India Chapter with
>>> immediate effect. With this, my respect for all of your contributions to the
>>> Movement has only increased, knowing about all the sweat and blood that goes
>>> into the creation of the community that defines the Movement as we know it,
>>> today.
>>>
>>> The reasons for my silence on the public list are for the same reasons
>>> that I am quitting today. They are personal. As a Person grows, the
>>> responsibility also grows and a point comes where the personal becomes more
>>> important than the public.
>>>
>>> I've had a hard time balancing work, life and my interests. In the
>>> balancing act, it is my family that has missed out the most, especially now
>>> that I have become a father of a 3 month old girl. The demands on me have
>>> grown and I find that I can no longer contribute usefully to the Movement or
>>> that someone else can do more justice to the role.
>>>
>>> I thank you all for your love, help and support. I hope to keep
>>> contributing to the Movement when I can.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Wikimedia India
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter affairs

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

If I may add, current EC should stop making any major decisions like
hiring people.
Just focus on the regulatory matters and the pending deadlines like FDC etc.

-Sudhanwa

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
 wrote:
> Dear Jayanta,
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
>> As you may be aware, two members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia
>> Chapter India have submitted their resignations with immediate effect.
>> However, there has been not any internal action or response or a call notice
>> for an urgent Teleconference for further discussion on possible actions from
>> the remaining office bearers namely the Secretary and Treasurer.
>
> There is hardly any activity by EC in the last few months. Being EC
> member, you may be knowing this better and the reasons for it.
>
> At least I am not expecting anything to happen  from the secretary or
> treasurer. As an EC member, you can take up initiative.
>
>>
>> Wikimedia India Chapter is going through a critical phase with several
>> important and crucial decisions and deadlines pending. The surprising
>> resignations from two board members at this juncture has made this a complex
>> affair. We have very important timelines and deadlines to be complied with,
>> in the coming few days.
>
> The timelines and deadlines are known to EC for quite some time. Why
> no action has been taken so far?
>
>>
>> Due to the above critical situation, a resolution has been put forth within
>> the official Internal Wiki (board members' wiki) on whether to accept or
>> reject the resignations.
>>
>> One of us from the EC will be informing you of the decision output of this
>> resolution duly.
>
> Nothing much can be done about resignations. Moksh has some good
> reasons to quit. Pranav's resignation is a joke. In any case, he was
> going to be out of EC after the elections that are supposed to happen
> in just a few weeks. As such, his resignation does not make any sense.
> Probably, just an excuse to get away from the accountability and
> responsibilities.
>
> In any case, the current EC has the responsibility to face the members
> and give them a complete and clear picture.
>
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
>
>
>> This is for your general information.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayanta Nath
>> EC Member
>> Wikimedia India
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter affairs

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Jayanta,


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
> As you may be aware, two members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia
> Chapter India have submitted their resignations with immediate effect.
> However, there has been not any internal action or response or a call notice
> for an urgent Teleconference for further discussion on possible actions from
> the remaining office bearers namely the Secretary and Treasurer.

There is hardly any activity by EC in the last few months. Being EC
member, you may be knowing this better and the reasons for it.

At least I am not expecting anything to happen  from the secretary or
treasurer. As an EC member, you can take up initiative.

>
> Wikimedia India Chapter is going through a critical phase with several
> important and crucial decisions and deadlines pending. The surprising
> resignations from two board members at this juncture has made this a complex
> affair. We have very important timelines and deadlines to be complied with,
> in the coming few days.

The timelines and deadlines are known to EC for quite some time. Why
no action has been taken so far?

>
> Due to the above critical situation, a resolution has been put forth within
> the official Internal Wiki (board members' wiki) on whether to accept or
> reject the resignations.
>
> One of us from the EC will be informing you of the decision output of this
> resolution duly.

Nothing much can be done about resignations. Moksh has some good
reasons to quit. Pranav's resignation is a joke. In any case, he was
going to be out of EC after the elections that are supposed to happen
in just a few weeks. As such, his resignation does not make any sense.
Probably, just an excuse to get away from the accountability and
responsibilities.

In any case, the current EC has the responsibility to face the members
and give them a complete and clear picture.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


> This is for your general information.
>
> Regards,
> Jayanta Nath
> EC Member
> Wikimedia India
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

How many months are required to get some answers  from the EC to some
simple queries?

Modifying some statements from the light bulb series statements : "
How many EC members are required to answer members queries? "

Added Sowmyan inthe mail in a hope that he can help getting answers from EC.
All others are also welcome to help getting replies from EC.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
 wrote:
> Adding email ids of EC members in the mail.
> Anybody from the EC, please respond.
>
> At least inform us about the renewals.
> Should I send my renewal form to Moksh or Karthik or to CIS office or
> to some other place?
>
> As Arjuna rightly said, there is a regulatory obligation on the
> current EC. At least respond to the points related to the same.
>
> I can see at least some EC members posting on social networks. Can not
> understand the reasons for not responding here.
>
> If noone is interested in listening to the community, better shutdown WMIN.
>
> -Sudhanwa
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had sent following mail to the WMIN members list about 10 days back.
>> As there was no reply for 5 days, I sent the same again adding
>> individual ids of EC members.
>> There is not a single line of reply to the mail. Not even any
>> acknowledgment of receiving the mail.
>>
>> I am wondering if my email id is blacklisted by EC members or there is
>> no one in the current EC who is nominated/interested in responding OR
>> WMIN is completely shutdown.
>>
>> If any list members have any idea about the current status of WMIN,
>> please let others know.
>>
>> Regards
>> -Sudhanwa
>>
>> Here is the mail I sent to members list 10 days back.
>>
>>
>> Dear WMIN members,
>>
>> There are no updates of any kind from the EC in the last few months.
>> What is the current status of Sowmyan? Is he still there or really gone?
>>
>> There are not even membership renewal reminders now. Assuming that
>> Sowmyan is not there, where the forms are to be sent?
>>
>> What is the status of the grants-earlier ones and the new ones applied for..
>>
>> What are the current projects happening in/through WMIN?
>>
>> What is the current membership renewal status? What is the current count?
>>
>> WMIN website is not updated for quite some time. Who is looking into
>> those activities?
>>
>> Can someone from the EC enlighten the members please.
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>>
>> -- Sudhanwa
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Spoken Tutorials moved into CC-BY-SA 4.0 License

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

All projects under NME are supposed to be under FOSS license. (Some
open source/open knowledge license)

If you have contacts with the right people, please get them all
released under such license and make the source code available. Apart
from others, I am interested to know specifically about the AVIEW
project by Amrita University. That can be used for Audio-visual
conferencing/conducting AV lectures across remote classrooms.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Anivar Aravind
 wrote:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Anivar Aravind 
> Date: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:26 PM
> Subject: Spoken Tutorials moved into CC-BY-SA 4.0 License
> To: cc-in...@lists.ibiblio.org
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Just heard from Prof. Kannan Moudgalya that Spoken Tutorials
> (http://spoken-tutorial.org/) has moved to CC BY-SA 4.0 . It was using
> CC-BY-NC-ND 3.0 earlier which is non free
>
> Congrats Prof. Kannan and team for changing spoken tutorials as OER
> repository
>
> Now this opens room for many FOSS projects like us to prepare and host local
> language tutorials of FOSS packages under a free license in Spoken tutorials
>
> The Spoken Tutorial project is the initiative of the ‘Talk to a Teacher’
> activity of the National Mission on Education through Information and
> Communication Technology (ICT), launched by the Ministry of Human Resources
> and Development, Government of India.
>
>
> ~ regards
> Anivar Aravind
>
> Secretary
> Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
> jttp://smc.org.in
>
>
> Consultant
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Facilitating attending of Wikimania by Wikimedians from India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Nice to know that some activity is happening in the EC.

Now that Karthik and Pranav are posting on the list, I believe they
can also answer some concerns that I raised on the members list and
later on on the India list. Arjuna also seeks some response to the
same.

For quick reference of the EC, these are the points in the mail sent
to members list initially and then to other list as well as individual
ids.
Regards
-Sudhanwa


>
> There are no updates of any kind from the EC in the last few months.
> What is the current status of Sowmyan? Is he still there or really gone?
>
> There are not even membership renewal reminders now. Assuming that
> Sowmyan is not there, where the forms are to be sent?
>
> What is the status of the grants-earlier ones and the new ones applied for..
>
> What are the current projects happening in/through WMIN?
>
> What is the current membership renewal status? What is the current count?
>
> WMIN website is not updated for quite some time. Who is looking into
> those activities?
>
> Can someone from the EC enlighten the members please.
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> -- Sudhanwa

On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Pranav Curumsey  wrote:
> As with practice in previous years, please do add your details to this page
> if your attending Wikimania: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikimania2014
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Karthik Nadar 
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> There is a requirement of a letter from local organsation for Visa purpose
>> when applying for a UK visa for Wikimania. Moksh, Srikanth and I as office
>> bearers of Wikimedia India, would be happy to provide relevant letters to
>> felicitate this. Kindly contact us privately if you require any help!
>>
>>
>> Regards from Mumbai,
>> Karthik Nadar.
>> Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
>> Bangalore, India.
>> http://wiki.wikimedia.in
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Adding email ids of EC members in the mail.
Anybody from the EC, please respond.

At least inform us about the renewals.
Should I send my renewal form to Moksh or Karthik or to CIS office or
to some other place?

As Arjuna rightly said, there is a regulatory obligation on the
current EC. At least respond to the points related to the same.

I can see at least some EC members posting on social networks. Can not
understand the reasons for not responding here.

If noone is interested in listening to the community, better shutdown WMIN.

-Sudhanwa

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had sent following mail to the WMIN members list about 10 days back.
> As there was no reply for 5 days, I sent the same again adding
> individual ids of EC members.
> There is not a single line of reply to the mail. Not even any
> acknowledgment of receiving the mail.
>
> I am wondering if my email id is blacklisted by EC members or there is
> no one in the current EC who is nominated/interested in responding OR
> WMIN is completely shutdown.
>
> If any list members have any idea about the current status of WMIN,
> please let others know.
>
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
>
> Here is the mail I sent to members list 10 days back.
>
>
> Dear WMIN members,
>
> There are no updates of any kind from the EC in the last few months.
> What is the current status of Sowmyan? Is he still there or really gone?
>
> There are not even membership renewal reminders now. Assuming that
> Sowmyan is not there, where the forms are to be sent?
>
> What is the status of the grants-earlier ones and the new ones applied for..
>
> What are the current projects happening in/through WMIN?
>
> What is the current membership renewal status? What is the current count?
>
> WMIN website is not updated for quite some time. Who is looking into
> those activities?
>
> Can someone from the EC enlighten the members please.
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> -- Sudhanwa
>
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

I had sent following mail to the WMIN members list about 10 days back.
As there was no reply for 5 days, I sent the same again adding
individual ids of EC members.
There is not a single line of reply to the mail. Not even any
acknowledgment of receiving the mail.

I am wondering if my email id is blacklisted by EC members or there is
no one in the current EC who is nominated/interested in responding OR
WMIN is completely shutdown.

If any list members have any idea about the current status of WMIN,
please let others know.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

Here is the mail I sent to members list 10 days back.


Dear WMIN members,

There are no updates of any kind from the EC in the last few months.
What is the current status of Sowmyan? Is he still there or really gone?

There are not even membership renewal reminders now. Assuming that
Sowmyan is not there, where the forms are to be sent?

What is the status of the grants-earlier ones and the new ones applied for..

What are the current projects happening in/through WMIN?

What is the current membership renewal status? What is the current count?

WMIN website is not updated for quite some time. Who is looking into
those activities?

Can someone from the EC enlighten the members please.

Thanks and regards

-- Sudhanwa



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[Wikimediaindia-l] Gnunify 2014

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Gnunify, a major Free/Open Source conference in India is being held
this week on 14-15 Feb.

This time, we will be having sessions about Wikipedia related
activities on both the days.

On 14th, there will be a talk on Wikipedia and sister projects.
On 15th, There will be a hands on editing session for the newbies.
Also, there will be 2 more sessions on Wikipedia localisation and
Mediawiki related development.

Please check out the website www.gnunify.in for the conference details.

There is no entry fee and all are welcome to join the event.

Regards
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Updated Aksharyogini font release in Open Font License

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear friends,

You may be aware that we (my family) have released a font family earlier.
Here is some background if you are not aware of it.

On the first death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar(my aunt), our family
released AksharYogini (Normal) Font on 1st Nov. 2006. This font is
primarily for Marathi language but can also be used for Hindi (for any
language using Devanagari). It also has English support. Later on, on the
occasion of Gudhipadwa (Chaitra Shuddha 1, 1931; that is 27th March 2009) ,
we released the additional fonts to complete the "AksharYogini font
family". This font family was/is made available on the site
http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com for free usage/distribution/sharing.


Today, on the occasion of Eighth Death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar, we
are now releasing an updated "AksharYogini font".  This font is also
available on the same website http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com

This is an updated font and has support for the new (MS Windows) operating
systems where the internal mechanism for font rendering is changed. Also,
it has additional characters for the current Unicode standard and the Rupee
Sign is also included.

Most important is the licensing. The new release is under the Open Font
License. As such, all Linux distributions will be able to freely use it in
their packaging.

Please feel free to use, share, distribute the new font. You can download
it from http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com .

Give us feedback on my email id or the official id for the font "
aksharyogini at sudhanwa.com " You can also comment on the guestbook on the
website.
Do share this news and also the font.

Wishing you a Very Happy Diwali !!

Thanks and regards
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Requests for comment/Activity levels of advanced administrative rights holders

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Have you read this ?
Could be more relevant to Indian language Wikipedia.
~~

Requests for comment/Activity levels of advanced administrative rights holders

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Activity_levels_of_advanced_administrative_rights_holders

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: 10th Anniversary Marathi Wikipedia will be available in (free) DVD Format, Aimed to reach 10, 000 schools.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

I have asked for details of the project.
Will update you once I get it.

-Sudhanwa

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala
 wrote:
> {{Only to Wikimediaindia list}}
>
> Sudhanwa,
>
>
> 2013/5/1 Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> Media coverage in Sakal newspaper- Mumbai, Pune edition.
>> ~~~
>>
>> 10th Anniversary Special - Marathi Wikipedia will be available in
>> (free) DVD Format, Aimed to reach 10,000 schools.
>>
>> विकिपीडिया आता डीव्हीडीच्या रूपात
>> - मनीषा फाळके - सकाळ वृत्तसेवा
>> मंगळवार, 30 एप्रिल 2013
>>
>>
>> http://online3.esakal.com/NewsDetails.aspx?NewsId=4965158952679418726&SectionId=11&SectionName=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%88&NewsDate=20130430&NewsTitle=%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE+%E0%A4%86%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE+%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE+%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4
>
>
> Excellent! Congratulations to everyone involved with this!  Can you share
> the background story of how this is accomplished preferably in English as it
> will be a good learning  for fellow native language wikipedians?
>
> Cheers
> Arjuna
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: "दशकपूर्ती " मराठी विकिपीडियाची - सकाळ वृत्तसेवा (सुधारित)

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

There is a media coverage in Marathi newspaper "Sakal", Mumbai edition
about 10 years of Marathi Wikipedia. Please check out.

-Sudhanwa

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Date: 2013/3/31
Subject: "दशकपूर्ती " मराठी विकिपीडियाची - सकाळ वृत्तसेवा (सुधारित)
To:


मराठी विकिपिडीयाच्या १० वर्षाच्या वाटचालीचा सकाळ ने आजच्या पुरवणीत आढावा
घेवून दशकपूर्ती ची सुरुवात करून दिली आहे. आपल्या माहितीसाठी लिंक देत आहे.

 - मराठी विकिपीडिया

http://epaper.esakal.com/Sakal/31Mar2013/Normal/Mumbai/MumbaiToday/page4.htm




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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Status of membership applcation to Wikimedia India Chapter

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi Niraj,

I received membership forms along with the money (cash) through a
student in Symbiosis who got them from someone else and I believe
Abhishek  collected all the forms and money originally and passed it
to be given to me.

After I came back from Banglore, I carried 200 Rs. back for the 2
forms that had problems.
I tried to find the same student again to return the money but could
not locate him.

Finally, I had a chat with Abhishek some days back and I told him
about it. We were supposed to meet for the money handover but that
meeting has not yet happened.

As such, 200 Rs. for those 2 forms are with me and I can return it
directly to you, Yohann. Please co-ordinate with me *offlist* for the
same.

I hope this clarifies the money matters.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Niraj Suryawanshi
 wrote:
> Hello Bala Sir,
>
> A very good sunday morning,
>
>
> 1)
>
> Can I get a reference regarding "From your current mail I understand you
> have made a mistake while filling the form", which mail exactly to be
> precise?
>
> Or is it the case that the exec council inspects all the incoming
> applications and that is why Sir you are in a position to understand the
> mistake?
>
> Lets consider it sorted for a while and as stated by the mail I received
>
> " Hello Mr. Suryawanshi,
>
> We have received your membership application found it to be incomplete
> with the following field(s) missing:
>
> 1. Current membership no.
>
> We are therefore not in a position to accept this application and are
> unable to process it. This does not stop you from making a fresh fully
> completed application in the future.
>
> Thanking you,
> Wikimedia India Chapter "
>
> here I'm indicated to apply freshly for the same.
>
> Is there any way I can get a refund of the reg. fees which I had submitted
> with the form, in the given case where my form is denied?
> I would be more than glad if at all there is a way that I could get the
> same.
>
> please kindly revert me to the concerned email address.
>
>
> 2)
>
> Sir I wished the applicants would receive a email about their application
> status, since Mr. Yohann didn't get one and that's the exact reason why he
> was compelled to ask a question.
>
> In my case as I did get an email, and it would have been a case showing
> extreme proficiency if the finances were considered regarding refund.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards & Thanks,
>
> Niraj Suryawanshi
> Pune Institute of Computer Technology | Wikipedia Club Pune
> 8149920120 | [hidden email]
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Bala Jeyaraman [via Wikimedia] <[hidden
> email]> wrote:
>>
>> Niraj,
>>
>> 1) Your application had the option "renewal" checked and the member id
>> space left blank. That is the reason you received such a mail. And that mail
>> also clearly stated that you could send in another application. From your
>> current mail I understand you have made a mistake while filling the form. In
>> such cases WM IN cannot correct forms filled by members. Please send a fresh
>> application form.
>>
>> 2) We don't publish membership information in a public forum. Members are
>> free to self identify themselves, but we refrain from doing so unless they
>> wish us to. Yohann sent a mail to this list and Srikanth pointed him to the
>> correct avenue to address his query. This is not us being callow. This is us
>> being professional.
>>
>> 3) There are established channels of communication ([hidden email]) to
>> where you can direct your membership related queries. That is where WM IN EC
>> members or the Executive Manager can reply to you in an official capacity.
>> We would have been more than happy to clarify your queries. Please direct
>> any future queries there.
>>
>> regards
>> Bala Jeyaraman
>> Executive Council Member, Wikimedia India
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Anirudh Bhati <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Niraj Suryawanshi <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:

 We would be glad if anyone can help us over this and not by someone who
 is
 callow enough to say "The India mailing list isn't exactly a place to
 ask
 such questions as it'd be a privacy violation".
>>>
>>>
>>> Niraj, no personal attacks, please.
>>>
>>> Anirudh
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Appointment of new SIG chair

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Congrats Rohini!!

All the best wishes to you!!

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Rohini Lakshané
 wrote:
> Thank you everyone for giving me this opportunity -- those who voted for me,
> Krutikaa and Netha who nominated me, and the members of the EC who conducted
> the election process.
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
>>
>> Heya, this is inform you that Rohini Lakshane has been appointed as
>> the chair of the Gender-gap SIG. This was the first nomination for an
>> SIG chair where there were other candidates, in this case Pavithra H.
>> Rohini was nominated and seconded by Krutikaa Jawanjal and Netha
>> Hussain, and got 20 votes in her favour, the highest in any Wikimedia
>> India voting process, beating Karthik's record of 19 votes in
>> September 2012. Rohini can be contacted on roh...@wikimedia.in
>>
>> --
>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>> Treasurer,
>> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
>>
>> Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter
>> today
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Wikipedians,

In my previous mail in reply to Abhishek, I had requested you to send
in your intimations/proposals for various activities that you want to
do in the next year.

We will be finalising the 2013-14 budget in the upcoming EC meeting
this weekend.

Please send your event information with tentative budgets within 2-3
days to the EC so that we can incorporate them in the Chapter budgets.

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa Jogalekar



On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
 wrote:
> Dear Abhishek,
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
>  wrote:
>>
>> It will be unfair to call it cheating, however -
>
>
> Writing something baseless is completely unfair. That too you are
> hinting as cheating which is absolutely wrong and offending.
>
>>
>> 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account.
>
> I don't know from where you have these numbers. I assume if you know
> these numbers, you will be knowing the expenditures as well as
> provisions for some future events/activities. If you give that
> information too, then it will be a fair statement.
>
>
>> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS.
>
> Absolutely wrong information you have got.
> Looks like it is time you dump your info-providers (खबरी लोग ) :-)
>
>> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required
>> for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
>
> Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always
> open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the
> upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list.
>
> If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan
> the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes
> to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want
> to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not
> hesitate to ask for support.
>
>> Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India
>> Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters.
>
> The way you expect clarity and transparency from chapter, chapter also
> seeks the same thing from you. Please be open and transparent to the
> community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
> All the chapter reports are open. However, there could be some
> regulatory limitations/restrictions for the same. Compared to an
> informal club or group activities, chapter has far more regulatory
> compliances. Within that, we do our best to help various events and
> activities.
>
> Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and
> works for the community. All these activities are also done
> voluntarily- just like community does. If community shows trust and
> confidence in the chapter, it will become strong and in turn community
> becomes stronger.
>
> Regards,
> -Sudhanwa
>
> [snip]



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Abhishek,

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
 wrote:
>
> It will be unfair to call it cheating, however -


Writing something baseless is completely unfair. That too you are
hinting as cheating which is absolutely wrong and offending.

>
> 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account.

I don't know from where you have these numbers. I assume if you know
these numbers, you will be knowing the expenditures as well as
provisions for some future events/activities. If you give that
information too, then it will be a fair statement.


> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS.

Absolutely wrong information you have got.
Looks like it is time you dump your info-providers (खबरी लोग ) :-)

> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required
> for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?

Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always
open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the
upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list.

If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan
the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes
to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want
to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not
hesitate to ask for support.

> Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India
> Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters.

The way you expect clarity and transparency from chapter, chapter also
seeks the same thing from you. Please be open and transparent to the
community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
All the chapter reports are open. However, there could be some
regulatory limitations/restrictions for the same. Compared to an
informal club or group activities, chapter has far more regulatory
compliances. Within that, we do our best to help various events and
activities.

Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and
works for the community. All these activities are also done
voluntarily- just like community does. If community shows trust and
confidence in the chapter, it will become strong and in turn community
becomes stronger.

Regards,
-Sudhanwa

[snip]

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