Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/20 AndrewRT : > Jimbo unfortunately has turned his facebook reply from "accept" to > "decline" which I guess means he pressed the wrong button! Pity! Indeed, that is a pity. > Personally I'm most looking forward to the talks and the discussion on > the chapter's priorities. > > The hustings should also be interesting as it will continue the debate > on priorities. The election will almost certainly be contested, in > that we've got at least six prospective candidates already and > candidates after number 3 need to get more than 50% approval to be > elected. Hence even if we get only seven candidates, still every vote > will count. I wouldn't consider that contested. Contested means there is a contest between people - the 50% requirement isn't competitive. I can't see anyone voting against a candidate in an uncontested election based on their hustings. A "no" vote would require some specific reason to think that someone would be a bad trustee - hustings won't change that. At least, the speeches won't - the Q&A might. I think the speeches will be very dull unless we get more than 7 candidates, the Q&A could be interesting, though. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
Jimbo unfortunately has turned his facebook reply from "accept" to "decline" which I guess means he pressed the wrong button! Pity! Personally I'm most looking forward to the talks and the discussion on the chapter's priorities. The hustings should also be interesting as it will continue the debate on priorities. The election will almost certainly be contested, in that we've got at least six prospective candidates already and candidates after number 3 need to get more than 50% approval to be elected. Hence even if we get only seven candidates, still every vote will count. Andrew On Mar 20, 10:15 am, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/3/20 Gordon Joly : > > > > > So what are the interesting parts of the AGM? > > > The BBC / Jimbo / both? > > The hustings might be fairly interesting, I guess it depends on how > many people stand (if the election is uncontested, they will be pretty > boring, however eloquent the candidates may be!). I'm looking forward > to the BBC talk/discussion if it happens (which I very much hope it > does). If Jimbo gives a talk as well, that would probably be quite > good, although I think I already know Jimbo's views on most relevant > subjects, whereas I don't know the views of the BBC, so the BBC will > probably be more interesting. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/20 Gordon Joly : > > > So what are the interesting parts of the AGM? > > > The BBC / Jimbo / both? The hustings might be fairly interesting, I guess it depends on how many people stand (if the election is uncontested, they will be pretty boring, however eloquent the candidates may be!). I'm looking forward to the BBC talk/discussion if it happens (which I very much hope it does). If Jimbo gives a talk as well, that would probably be quite good, although I think I already know Jimbo's views on most relevant subjects, whereas I don't know the views of the BBC, so the BBC will probably be more interesting. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
So what are the interesting parts of the AGM? The BBC / Jimbo / both? Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.j...@pobox.com/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
At 12:51 -0700 18/3/09, Cary Bass wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Thomas Dalton wrote: >> 2009/3/18 Gordon Joly : >>> According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. >>> >>> Is this true? >> >> If it is, there is a minor issue - is he a member? If not, he's not >> actually welcome at the AGM without an official invite! (It's a >> minor formality, but the board should actually invite him if he's >> going to come.) > >Will you kick me out if I show up too? :-) > >Cary No, I will buy you a beer! Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.j...@pobox.com/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/19 Paul Williams : > My earlier comment was purely in jest Yeah, I got that from the emoticon - you're alright! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/3/18 Tom Holden : > > I know some people think I am being overly formal and strict about > this kind of stuff, but the AGM of a limited company, particularly a > charitable one, is a serious event and needs to be handled properly. > This isn't just a bunch of people from the internet getting together > for a pint and a chat about what we're going to do, it's an official > meeting of the membership if a charitable company. > > My earlier comment was purely in jest - this is of course a serious event for the company and we should follow all necessary procedures. This isn't a two-bit job or a meetup of Wikimedians, this is a legal event and should be treated as such. Regards, -- -- Paul "skenmy" Williams -- p...@skenmy.com ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
On 18 Mar 2009, at 19:51, Cary Bass wrote: >> >> If it is, there is a minor issue - is he a member? If not, he's not >> actually welcome at the AGM without an official invite! (It's a >> minor formality, but the board should actually invite him if he's >> going to come.) > > Will you kick me out if I show up too? :-) > > Cary I don't think there'll be any kicking out, unless anyone becomes disruptive. I think it'd be great if you could turn up, Cary. Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
I sent out a message telling everyone in the facebook group that the AGM was happening and inviting them to the facebook "event". Jimbo replied saying yes he was coming. I've messaged him to say did he really mean that or did he press the wrong button, and if he does, will he give us a talk. I'll let you know what he says in response! On Mar 18, 1:12 pm, "Brian McNeil" wrote: > Then ask Jimbo: jwa...@wikimedia.org > > Not so painful? > > Brian. > > -Original Message- > From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > > [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of joseph > seddon > Sent: 18 March 2009 14:03 > To: wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM > > This point I quickly mentioned on irc earlier in the week but noone could > confirm it. > > -Original Message- > From: Gordon Joly > Sent: 18 March 2009 12:58 > To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM > > According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. > > Is this true? > > Gordo > > -- > "Think Feynman"/http://pobox.com/~gordo/ > gordon.j...@pobox.com/// > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK:http://uk.wikimedia.org > > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/18 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/3/18 joseph seddon : >> I think having two areas is a good idea plus voting cards to avoid >> confusion. >> Discussion amoungst members should be as free flowing as possible but >> directed >> by the chair. If non-members wish to add to the discussion, they must be >> recognised >> by the chair to be able to make a comment. > We need to be careful with voting, but I think we can just make it up > as we go along with discussion. If some people are hogging the floor, > particularly non-members, then the chair can intervene and start > directing who can speak when, but if everything is going fine with > free-form discussion we might as well let non-members join in. I'd suggest getting the meeting bit over with expeditiously (as long as needed but not a moment longer), with someone saying "Non-members are welcome to observe, but please don't interrupt. Could members come over here please ..." - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/18 joseph seddon : > I think having two areas is a good idea plus voting cards to avoid > confusion. > Discussion amoungst members should be as free flowing as possible but > directed > by the chair. If non-members wish to add to the discussion, they must be > recognised > by the chair to be able to make a comment. We need to be careful with voting, but I think we can just make it up as we go along with discussion. If some people are hogging the floor, particularly non-members, then the chair can intervene and start directing who can speak when, but if everything is going fine with free-form discussion we might as well let non-members join in. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
I think having two areas is a good idea plus voting cards to avoid confusion. Discussion amoungst members should be as free flowing as possible but directed by the chair. If non-members wish to add to the discussion, they must be recognised by the chair to be able to make a comment. > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:19:23 + > From: thomas.dal...@gmail.com > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM > > 2009/3/18 Tom Holden : > > To clarify (if it needed it), this was discussed at the board meeting this > > week and we decided non-members are perfectly welcome to attend. > > Ok, a general invitation is fine (I've found the discussion in the IRC > log, but I can't see it in the minutes - all decisions need to be > minuted), but you'll need to give some thought to how you are going to > conduct the meeting. I can see two options - separate seating areas > for members and non-members, or voting cards. (If we have a very small > turnout we can just rely on the chair knowing who is and isn't a > member, but hopefully we'll get more people than that!) > > I know some people think I am being overly formal and strict about > this kind of stuff, but the AGM of a limited company, particularly a > charitable one, is a serious event and needs to be handled properly. > This isn't just a bunch of people from the internet getting together > for a pint and a chat about what we're going to do, it's an official > meeting of the membership if a charitable company. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _ Free photo editing software from Windows Live . Try it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665240/direct/01/___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/18 Tom Holden : > To clarify (if it needed it), this was discussed at the board meeting this > week and we decided non-members are perfectly welcome to attend. Ok, a general invitation is fine (I've found the discussion in the IRC log, but I can't see it in the minutes - all decisions need to be minuted), but you'll need to give some thought to how you are going to conduct the meeting. I can see two options - separate seating areas for members and non-members, or voting cards. (If we have a very small turnout we can just rely on the chair knowing who is and isn't a member, but hopefully we'll get more people than that!) I know some people think I am being overly formal and strict about this kind of stuff, but the AGM of a limited company, particularly a charitable one, is a serious event and needs to be handled properly. This isn't just a bunch of people from the internet getting together for a pint and a chat about what we're going to do, it's an official meeting of the membership if a charitable company. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Tom Holden wrote: > To clarify (if it needed it), this was discussed at the board meeting this > week and we decided non-members are perfectly welcome to attend. > > Tom > Good. I do intend to join at some point, just not at this moment :) I still maintain an interest in it nonetheless. -- Alex (User:Majorly) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
To clarify (if it needed it), this was discussed at the board meeting this week and we decided non-members are perfectly welcome to attend. Tom > -Original Message- > From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l- > boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton > Sent: 18 March 2009 19:55 > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM > > 2009/3/18 Thomas Dalton : > > 2009/3/18 Al Tally : > >> I'm not a member, but I intend to go. Will I get kicked out? > > > > Why aren't you a member? I can't see why anybody would be interested > > in going to the AGM without wanting to join... > > PS Other than people coming to give a talk, that is. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/3/18 Al Tally : > > I'm not a member, but I intend to go. Will I get kicked out? > > Why aren't you a member? I can't see why anybody would be interested > in going to the AGM without wanting to join... > I've simply been far too busy to think of things like this. I'm also not made of money! I'd really like a good reason to part with my money. I'm still totally uncertain as to what Wikimedia UK is actually for... The reason why I am interested is I think it would nice to be there, as I am so close anyway, and to see the board in person. If this is not acceptable, I can always save £3 bus fare and stay at home :) -- Alex (User:Majorly) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/18 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/3/18 Al Tally : >> I'm not a member, but I intend to go. Will I get kicked out? > > Why aren't you a member? I can't see why anybody would be interested > in going to the AGM without wanting to join... PS Other than people coming to give a talk, that is. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/18 Al Tally : > I'm not a member, but I intend to go. Will I get kicked out? Why aren't you a member? I can't see why anybody would be interested in going to the AGM without wanting to join... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/18 Cary Bass : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> 2009/3/18 Gordon Joly : >>> According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. >>> >>> Is this true? >> >> If it is, there is a minor issue - is he a member? If not, he's not >> actually welcome at the AGM without an official invite! (It's a >> minor formality, but the board should actually invite him if he's >> going to come.) > > Will you kick me out if I show up too? :-) There's a simple way to avoid that - just join! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Cary Bass wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thomas Dalton wrote: > > 2009/3/18 Gordon Joly : > >> According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. > >> > >> Is this true? > > > > If it is, there is a minor issue - is he a member? If not, he's not > > actually welcome at the AGM without an official invite! (It's a > > minor formality, but the board should actually invite him if he's > > going to come.) > > Will you kick me out if I show up too? :-) > > Cary > I'm not a member, but I intend to go. Will I get kicked out? -- Alex (User:Majorly) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/3/18 Gordon Joly : >> According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. >> >> Is this true? > > If it is, there is a minor issue - is he a member? If not, he's not > actually welcome at the AGM without an official invite! (It's a > minor formality, but the board should actually invite him if he's > going to come.) Will you kick me out if I show up too? :-) Cary -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJwVCuyQg4JSymDYkRAoaHAJ9374dnxoBbgdup6lpkK3qgOEQZswCgzlNc BssOcQrkPPB9SXXcJ0SbmZw= =ONZh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/3/18 Gordon Joly : > > > > According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. > > > > Is this true? > > If it is, there is a minor issue - is he a member? If not, he's not > actually welcome at the AGM without an official invite! (It's a minor > formality, but the board should actually invite him if he's going to > come.) Oh come on... :P -- -- Paul "skenmy" Williams -- p...@skenmy.com ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
2009/3/18 Gordon Joly : > > According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. > > Is this true? If it is, there is a minor issue - is he a member? If not, he's not actually welcome at the AGM without an official invite! (It's a minor formality, but the board should actually invite him if he's going to come.) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
Then ask Jimbo: jwa...@wikimedia.org Not so painful? Brian. -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of joseph seddon Sent: 18 March 2009 14:03 To: wikimediau...@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM This point I quickly mentioned on irc earlier in the week but noone could confirm it. -Original Message- From: Gordon Joly Sent: 18 March 2009 12:58 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. Is this true? Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.j...@pobox.com/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
This point I quickly mentioned on irc earlier in the week but noone could confirm it. -Original Message- From: Gordon Joly Sent: 18 March 2009 12:58 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. Is this true? Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.j...@pobox.com/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Jimbo at the AGM
According to Facebook, Jimbo will be at the AGM. Is this true? Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.j...@pobox.com/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
