Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009-03-04 Thread joseph seddon
If we hit £5000 in the next year (which is highly likely whether we get 
wikimania or not) I highly doubt we are going to be able hang on till CIO's 
become available. I imagine we will simply have to go through the registered 
charity route despite the increased paperwork.

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From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009/3/4 Tom Holden thomas.hol...@gmail.com:
  In any case, we almost certainly want to be a charitable incorporated
  organisation, not a registered charity, due to the lower paper-work
  requirements.
 
  We'll apply to be one as soon as they're accepting applications and we have
  the time to write one.

 I think a CIO would be a type of registered charity. I'm not sure of
 the technicalities of the definitions. Regardless, CIO's aren't likely
 to be available for another year or so yet - they keep putting it
 back.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009-03-03 Thread Gordon Joly
At 16:09 -0800 2/3/09, AndrewRT wrote:
We're hoping to make the business side of the AGM as quick as
possible, but does anyone have any resolutions they would like to be
put to the meeting?

At the moment the resolutions are:

1. Setting the maximum number of Directors to seven
2. Appointing those people elected under the Election Rules as
directors
3. Setting the Membership fee to £12 per year and £6 for concessions
4. Entrenchment of Election Rules
5. Adoption of Membership Rules
6. Entrenchment of the Chapter Agreement

(entrenchment is a legal term which means a future Board would be
unable to repeal or revise them without the permission of the
membership)

Members will be able to vote by email for these if they prefer, or in
person at the AGM. Full details are set out at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009_AGM/Resolutions.

Also, does anyone want to propose any amendment to any of these
resolutions?

Please let me know if you have anything you would like to raise.



Where does the registered charity status and hence the application fit?

At the AGM, or later?

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009-03-03 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/3 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:
 The Board has an action to register with the Charity Commission as
 soon as it's likely that our income will be more than £5,000 - which
 will be as soon were announced as the winning bid for Wikimania 2010 (-
 grin-), or, failing that, when our donations get to that level in I
 guess 1-2 years' time?

I reckon we'll get more than £5k in the annual fundraiser next winter.
If all the Wikimania sponsorship goes through us, we'll probably go
over the next threshold and have to do audited annual reports and
stuff...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009-03-03 Thread James Forrester
2009/3/3 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:
 The Board has an action to register with the Charity Commission as
 soon as it's likely that our income will be more than £5,000 - which
 will be as soon were announced as the winning bid for Wikimania 2010 (-
 grin-), or, failing that, when our donations get to that level in I
 guess 1-2 years' time?

Hmm. Frankly, I expect us to clear the £5000 threshold in a matter of
months - there have been lots of expressions of interest over the
years. We on the old Board considered full Charity status to be an
absolute priority, and our failure to achieve it was what led the
Board to close WMUK v.1 down in favour of re-starting.

Yours,
-- 
James D. Forrester
jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com
[[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]]

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions

2009-03-03 Thread AndrewRT
On Mar 3, 10:26 pm, James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.org wrote:
 2009/3/3 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:

  The Board has an action to register with the Charity Commission as
  soon as it's likely that our income will be more than £5,000 - which
  will be as soon were announced as the winning bid for Wikimania 2010 (-
  grin-), or, failing that, when our donations get to that level in I
  guess 1-2 years' time?

 Hmm. Frankly, I expect us to clear the £5000 threshold in a matter of
 months - there have been lots of expressions of interest over the
 years. We on the old Board considered full Charity status to be an
 absolute priority, and our failure to achieve it was what led the
 Board to close WMUK v.1 down in favour of re-starting.

 Yours,
 --
 James D. Forrester

Unfortunately, the Charities Commission are currently not considering
applications for charitable status from organisations with a turnover
of less than £5,000 per year unless there are exceptional
circumstances:

http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/publications/cc21.asp#32

65. We will only consider an application for registration from an
organisation below the minimum income in exceptional circumstances.

I'm afraid I think we have no choice but to wait until we're at that
level - which as you say, hopefully won't be too long.

regards,

Andrew

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