Re: [Wikisource-l] IA Upload tool — higher-quality DjVus

[Andrea Zanni]

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Sam Wilson  wrote:

> That's a great idea!
> I think we can use Wikidata to build the list:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zwdbzyq
>
>
Probably, en.source is the only one who has filled in all Wikisource data
inside Wikidata... Or other Wikisources did that? Do you have some workflow
to share?


> I had been erroneously thinking along the lines that we'd have to be
> uploading something to the items before making it part of a Wikisource
> collection, but of course that's not necessary. I think your hierarchy of
> wikisource collections sounds perfect.
>

perfect.



> It'd be cool if items with a page on a Wikisource could have a little
> footnote like they do for Open Library ones ("[image: [Open Library icon]]
> This book has an editable web page
>  on Open Library
> .).
>

We can try to convince them about that. It'd be only for a fraction of
books, few thousands over the millions they have.
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikistats 2.0 and Wikisource

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Also Phe can be requested to provide book based stats considering only NS0
basepages and no subpages.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
Dear all,
the WMF is creating a Wikistats 2.0, a new platform for visualizing stats
about project.
The idea is great, because better analytics means better knowledge of the
project and better insights for us the community.

For this week, until next Monday, they are accepting feedbacks:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikistats_2.0_Design_
Project/RequestforFeedback/Round1

I already wrote something about the fact that metrics are always
"wikipedia-centric" and for Wikisource we would need them to "aggregate"
edits at a "book level".
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikistats_2.0_Design_Project/
RequestforFeedback/Round1/Site_dashboard

If you agree, please say so in that page ;-)

Aubrey

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Re: [Wikisource-l] IA Upload tool — higher-quality DjVus

[Sam Wilson]

That's a great idea!

I think we can use Wikidata to build the list:
http://tinyurl.com/zwdbzyq


I had been erroneously thinking along the lines that we'd have to be
uploading something to the items before making it part of a Wikisource
collection, but of course that's not necessary. I think your hierarchy
of wikisource collections sounds perfect.


It'd be cool if items with a page on a Wikisource could have a little
footnote like they do for Open Library ones ("[Open Library icon]This
book has an editable web page[1] on Open Library[2].).


—sam



On Sun, 12 Feb 2017, at 08:17 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote:

> Hi everyone, 

> I made this, hopefully is helful:

> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/158GvBrPBW0KfREHRmLFK7EhuB-FQBkLbm9qxJBaJTUY/edit?usp=sharing
> 

> It's the list of the files on Commons uploaded from Internet Archive.
> The idea, right now, is that every language Wikisource would take care
> of their uploads,
> and when they are more than 50 they create a "Italian/German/Bengali
> Wikisource",
> collection on Internet Archive. 

> The whole set of collections will be inside one "Wikisource" global
> collection.
> Make sense? Do you agree?

> 

> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Sam Wilson
>  wrote:
>> __

>> 

>> 

>> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, at 03:13 PM, Alex Brollo wrote:

>>> Thanks Sam! 

>>> Now we should focus on  help about requisites of a good, wikisource-
>>> oriented IA upload: proper scan quality, good file names and useful
>>> metadata. IMHO it would be great to build a "wikisource collection"
>>> into IA, since collection admins can edit any item detail but its
>>> ID, and fix most mistakes.
>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> That sounds like a great idea! So it sounds like[3] we need to have
>> 50 items already uploaded before they'll create a collection for us.
>> Then, maybe we build it into ia-upload: a way of uploading and
>> setting metadata for a set of scan files? It would upload files to IA
>> and then do the DjVu-creating thing and upload just the DjVu to
>> Commons?
>> 

>> Or do people upload to Commons first? And then our tool takes a file
>> (or category of files), uploads it to IA, and then pulls the DjVu
>> back from there and adds it to the same category?
>> 

>> (I'm sort of thinking aloud...)

>> 

>> 

>> 

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Links:

  1. http://openlibrary.org/ia/thatremystre00gaut
  2. https://openlibrary.org/
  3. https://archive.org/about/faqs.php#Collections
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Re: [Wikisource-l] IA Upload tool — higher-quality DjVus

[Andrea Zanni]

Hi everyone,
I made this, hopefully is helful:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/158GvBrPBW0KfREHRmLFK7EhuB-FQBkLbm9qxJBaJTUY/edit?usp=sharing

It's the list of the files on Commons uploaded from Internet Archive.
The idea, right now, is that every language Wikisource would take care of
their uploads,
and when they are more than 50 they create a "Italian/German/Bengali
Wikisource",
collection on Internet Archive.
The whole set of collections will be inside one "Wikisource" global
collection.

Make sense? Do you agree?

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Sam Wilson  wrote:

>
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, at 03:13 PM, Alex Brollo wrote:
>
> Thanks Sam!
> Now we should focus on  help about requisites of a good,
> wikisource-oriented IA upload: proper scan quality, good file names and
> useful metadata. IMHO it would be great to build a "wikisource collection"
> into IA, since collection admins can edit any item detail but its ID, and
> fix most mistakes.
>
>
> That sounds like a great idea! So it sounds like
>  we need to have 50 items
> already uploaded before they'll create a collection for us. Then, maybe we
> build it into ia-upload: a way of uploading and setting metadata for a set
> of scan files? It would upload files to IA and then do the DjVu-creating
> thing and upload just the DjVu to Commons?
>
> Or do people upload to Commons first? And then our tool takes a file (or
> category of files), uploads it to IA, and then pulls the DjVu back from
> there and adds it to the same category?
>
> (I'm sort of thinking aloud...)
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource hangout next weekend

[Andrea Zanni]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm avalaible at 14:00 PM (UTC+1)
>

I'm available too. Let's do this.

Aubrey
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource hangout next weekend

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

2017-02-12 11:33 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni :

> There will be an hangout today?
>

Not that I know of. The next one is schedule in two weeks :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/February_2017_Hangout

But I'm avalaible at 14:00 PM (UTC+1), for instance to could talk
about the GLAMwiki
Coordinators meeting

;)

Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource hangout next weekend

[Andrea Zanni]

There will be an hangout today?

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:32 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Great, thank you for the report :)
>
> Le 29/01/2017 à 09:27, Sam Wilson a écrit :
>
> Thanks everyone for coming to the hangout!! It was great to talk about
> all this. :-)
>
> I've attempted to clean up the etherpad 
> notes:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/January_2017_Hangout#Notes
> Please feel free to clarify anything I've mungled.
>
> NEXT HANGOUT:
>
> Shall we aim for some day on or near Sunday February 26th? Anyone got a
> good suggestion of a time of day? Did 1400UTC work well enough?
>
> —sam
>
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, at 09:57 PM, Sam Wilson wrote:
>
> This is on now.
>
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2017, at 11:56 AM, Sam Wilson wrote:
>
> So it seems that most interested people can make it next Saturday at
> 1400UTC, so I've 
> createdhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/January_2017_Hangout
> with some info.
>
> —Sam
>
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