Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Self-registration for labsconsole/Gerrit + Labs is no longer beta

2012-12-14 Thread Erik Moeller
Congrats! This is a huge deal. :-)

Erik
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM

2012-12-14 Thread Sébastien Santoro
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:
> An update on this:
>
> Some people listed themselves at
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM - thank you! This is
> useful and will become more useful as the event approaches.
>
> I have started drafting the proposals for a lighting talk and a
> DevRoom session. If any of these gets accepted I will fly to Brussels.
> You can help with the drafts. Just edit and comment in the discussion
> pages as usual. I will submit both proposals on Monday, not to get too
> close to the deadline (Friday 21).
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM/2013_-_Lightning_-_Qgil

FOSDEM's lightning talk isn't a format really targeted to big projects.

There are to very small / personal projects, idea, new softwares and
general thoughts.

> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM/2013_-_DevRoom_-_Qgil

A lot better.

The FOSDEM is also populated by people (including CS or IT students)
to get involved in a project (outreach effort). They go to dev rooms
to assist to the talks who attract them (virtually only projects
contributors attend only once devroom, other visitors go from one to
another).

> If someone else is thinking about submitting a MediaWiki related
> proposal please share your plans in the wiki page.

We have one full day of talks to give.

When you send the proposal, as we're very short for delays please
already include the information asked by FOSDEM team:
* Your name
* The title of your talk (please be descriptive, as titles will be
listed with ~250 from other projects)
* A short abstract of one to two paragraphs
* A short biography introducing yourself
* Links to related websites/blogs etc.

Ideal duration: 1h

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM

2012-12-14 Thread Quim Gil
An update on this:

Some people listed themselves at
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM - thank you! This is
useful and will become more useful as the event approaches.

I have started drafting the proposals for a lighting talk and a
DevRoom session. If any of these gets accepted I will fly to Brussels.
You can help with the drafts. Just edit and comment in the discussion
pages as usual. I will submit both proposals on Monday, not to get too
close to the deadline (Friday 21).

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM/2013_-_Lightning_-_Qgil
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM/2013_-_DevRoom_-_Qgil

If someone else is thinking about submitting a MediaWiki related
proposal please share your plans in the wiki page.

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Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla upgrade [was: bugzilla.wikimedia.org downtime: Now.]

2012-12-14 Thread Krinkle
On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:53 PM, K. Peachey  wrote:

> 
> That is contrary [..]
> 

No, it isn't contradictory.

The bugzilla account for "wikibug...@lists.wikimedia.org" is either inexistent, 
or unused.
The *e-mail address* exists, but that's irrelevant.

Mails to this list are sent through the global configuration setting 
"globalwatchers" – not through the fact that it may or may not be on CC of a 
bug.

At least that's how it is supposed to work, and should work again if not.

This global configuration setting is afaik a core feature, what exactly does 
this "hack" entail?


On Dec 11, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:

> [..] virtual accounts, even with non-working email addresses. They
> are only created so you can add such accounts to your "User Watching"
> list. 
> 


That is an interesting technique, but that isn't what we're doing here afaik. 
Because if someone wants those mails, they can simply subscribe to the list. 
And moreover, subscribing to the list is semantically more correct since then 
you receive all activity though the globalwatchers setting, as opposed to only 
the activity on bugs the "Nobody" account is CCed on (which is often removed 
from bugs when someone assigns a bug or otherwise ends up removing it for some 
reason).

-- Krinkle


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla upgrade [was: bugzilla.wikimedia.org downtime: Now.]

2012-12-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 14:53 -0500, Chad wrote:
> Is there a reason for this? We had this hack in place to keep BZ
> from spamming IRC/wikibugs-l when only the CC list changes...

Anybody from ops is welcome to reapply the patch:
https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=4121
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43130

I don't have shell access myself.

andre
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Re: [Wikitech-l] "Navigation menu" title showing in side bar

2012-12-14 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
See bug 42452 [1]. I was hoping this was already fixed, eh.

[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42452

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

2012-12-14 Thread Marco Fleckinger

Hi Gabriel,

thank you for that information. Actually I already knew of the project. 
Therefore I could imagine a process as I described. This IMHO doesn't 
need much i18n, because there is an defined syntax for wt and for html.


On 2012-12-13 20:57, Gabriel Wicke wrote:

On 12/13/2012 06:43 AM, Marco Fleckinger wrote:

Implementing this is not very easy, but developers can may use some of
the old ideas. Parsing the other way around has to be realized really
from the scratch but is easier because everything is in a tree. not in a
single text-string.

Neither de- nor searalizing includes any surface, testing could be done
automatically really easy comparing the results of conventional and the
new parsing. The result of the serialization can be compared with the
original markup.


we (the Parsoid team) have been doing many of the things you describe in
the last year:


Ah, that was the project's name. ;-)


* We wrote a new bidirectional parser / serializer - see
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid. This includes a grammar-based
tokenizer, async/parallel token stream transformations and HTML5 DOM
building.

Thank you for pointing to that. Will also be interested for one of my 
private project.



* We developed a HTML5 / RDFa document model spec at
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/MediaWiki_DOM_spec.

* Our parserTests runner tests wt2html (wikitext to html), wt2wt,
html2html and html2wt modes with the same wikitext / HTML pairs as used
in the PHP parser tests. We have roughly doubled the number of such
pairs in the process.

* Automated and distributed round-trip tests are currently run over a
random selection of 100k English Wikipedia pages:
http://parsoid.wmflabs.org:8001/. This test infrastructure can easily be
pointed at a different set of pages or another wiki.

Once the top results in English are reached it should not be a big deal 
testing it on other wikis.



Parsoid is by no means complete, but we are very happy with how far we
already got since last October.


Congratulation for that results so far.

Cheers

Marco

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Video on mobile: Firefox works, way is paved for more browser support

2012-12-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 December 2012 10:26, Antoine Musso  wrote:
> Le 12/12/12 21:57, David Gerard a écrit :

>> If anyone owning a chunk of H.264 had a problem with Wikimedia doing
>> things with H.264 in the US, it could only be bad for them. I would
>> suggest this aspect isn't really a problem.

> Morally I must agree.  Legally I emit a huge doubt on this assumption.
> We had the SCO - Linux affair [1] a few years ago where some "unknown"
> company started sueing anyone using Unix based on copyright
> infringement.  It only takes one company and a bunch of lawyers to start
> being sued.
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO–Linux_controversies


I was thinking legally too, but yeah, danger of patent trolls on
serving - I was thinking only of the big guys. Definitely one for WMF
legal.

Ingestion should be feasible outside the US, though, if accepting
encumbered formats (e.g. anything a mobile phone records) is deemed a
legal hazard.


- d.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Video on mobile: Firefox works, way is paved for more browser support

2012-12-14 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 12/12/12 21:57, David Gerard a écrit :
> On 12 December 2012 11:44, Antoine Musso  wrote:
> 
>> Could we host h.264 videos and related transcoders in a country that
>> does not recognize software patents?
>> Hints:
>>  - I am not a lawyer
>>  - WMF has server in Netherlands, EU.
> 
> 
> If anyone owning a chunk of H.264 had a problem with Wikimedia doing
> things with H.264 in the US, it could only be bad for them. I would
> suggest this aspect isn't really a problem.

Morally I must agree.  Legally I emit a huge doubt on this assumption.

We had the SCO - Linux affair [1] a few years ago where some "unknown"
company started sueing anyone using Unix based on copyright
infringement.  It only takes one company and a bunch of lawyers to start
being sued.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO–Linux_controversies

-- 
Antoine "hashar" Musso


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[Wikitech-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2012-12-14 Thread Harsh Kothari
Dear friends, 

This is to inform you all about the creation of the first MediaWiki group in 
India. For the past several days, I’ve been speaking to Quim Gil, Sumana and 
Yuvi Panda. I was informed about the setting up of local groups in different 
countries for technical contributors. With encouragement from all of them and 
with help from Noopur I submitted a proposal for the formation of MediaWiki 
Group Ahmedabad. This proposal has been endorsed by 7 people so far. 

For those who might be interested in setting up similar groups, I think a 
Wikitech mailing list for India is being set up and personally, I would be 
happy to help you write a proposal for your community. I think it’s a great 
idea because with the help of this technical group we intend to make good 
technical infrastructure and editing environment for Gujarati Wikipedia easier 
to contribute to. 

I have already ported HotCat and Popups(on the way) on Gujarati Wikipedia. 
Please have a look at the areas we want to collaborate on: 

Areas of collaboration:
Localize Gadgets for Gujarati Wikipedia and Wikisource
Create New Gadgets and extensions
Bug solving for Gujarati Wikipedia and WikiSource and also other MediaWiki 
related Bug solving for all Indian languages
Translate into Gujarati Language, i.e http://translatewiki.net/
Wikidata


You can read the proposal here: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Ahmedabad

Your endorsements, improvements and feedback are welcome at the wiki
page. Thank you!

Harsh Kothari

PS: see also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals

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Harsh Kothari
Research Fellow, 
Physical Research Laboratory(PRL).
Ahmedabad.


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[Wikitech-l] "Navigation menu" title showing in side bar

2012-12-14 Thread Mohamed Ibrahim
Hello,

Only in vector skin, many Wikipedias are now displaying "Navigation Menu"
(different languages) at the end of the side bar after content ends.
First noticed that in Arabic Wikipedia and got it fixed by adding
#mw-navigation h2 { position: absolute; top: -px; }
to mediawiki:vector.css which I got by examining the pages which didn't
have this bug including my watchlist and mediawiki messages (but
not including its history)

The problem doesn't exist in some other Wikipedias, including English
and Spanish.
Any idea how did that happen and what can we do to make a global fix?

-- 
Mido
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