Re: [Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Huib Laurens
Aprils fool?

On Friday, 1 April 2016, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you give us some justification for this change? It's not like when
> downloading dumps you would actually leak some sensitive data...
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Ariel Glenn WMF <ar...@wikimedia.org
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> > We plan to make this change on April 4 (this coming Monday), redirecting
> > plain http access to https.
> >
> > A reminder that our dumps can also be found on our mirror sites, for
> those
> > who may have restricted https access.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread Huib Laurens
To suggestion 2:

It makes no difference at all for the discspace if a file gets deleted or
not. Since you are always able to restore it it will stay on the server.

Suggestion 3: Restore the file on en.wiki if it gets deleted on Commons...
No coding needed at all.

Huib


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:36 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have just had to deal with this - AGAIN - and would like to rail for a
 moment, hoping to provoke discussion to promote change.  I posit that this
 is big enough to deserve a Foundation-wide venue for initial discussion so
 am including Wikitech-L.

 Most of us are probably familiar with the cycle:

 Person A on en.wp (or, any project) uploads an image which is apparently
 public domain or free use by any reasonable standard.  It gets put on
 article X.  There is much rejoicing.

 Person B later thinks Oh, this is something other projects might use, and
 it's 'free', so... and uploads it to Commons.  It then gets deleted at
 en.wp by a helpful bot.

 Person C on Commons later identifies that it fails to be an entirely free
 piece under the much-stricter Commons rules, due to some factor that A and
 B were unaware of.  Person C nominates it for deletion there.  Poof.  Gone.

 Now, we have NO image, for something that is sufficiently legal under our
 rules and the law for use on en.wp (and likely, most of the rest of the
 projects).  A delinker bot helpfully comes along and nukes references to
 the image off the pages that used to have it.  Maintainers who miss the bot
 edit fail to notice that it's gone.  Many months or years go along and
 finally someone notices, and either is an admin and restores the image on
 en.wp or finds an admin who restores it on en.wp.


 Now, for someone who sees images as an integral part of the total
 READERSHIP value we present, in terms of helping people understand things
 by drawing their attention and expressing ideas and history in a visual
 manner, the long periods where we've lost all image are mind-numbingly
 counter to our core mission.  That we've evolved into this cycle due to
 bureaucratic friction does not make it acceptable.


 PROPOSED: This is not acceptable.  Something must be done.

 SUGGESTED FIX #1: Create a parallel Uncommons project, for shared images
 which meet minimum project legal non-copyvio standards but do not meet the
 threshold Commons is insisting on (or we have defined Commons to be).  This
 requires coding in the WMF to allow a parallel project as image source, and
 would require that Commons' deletion process be modified such that
 deletions for copyright niggles be a shift-to-Uncommons rather than an
 outright delete.

 SUGGESTED FIX #2: Stop deleting things from local projects when they're
 uploaded to commons.  This requires additional diskspace from the
 Foundation (by some as-yet unknown amount).  Ops team - Could you attempt
 to determine if this would be significant, troublesome, small enough to not
 be significant, etc?


 These are not the only two possible solutions, but they come to mind
 immediately (and have previously when I thought of this).  Additional fix
 concepts solicited and welcomed.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread Huib Laurens
Ehm, if a file gets deleted 16 months after the move there is still a log
entry from the change in the history of the article right?

But if CommonsDelinker should report a list of all deleted files on a
wikipage people would be able to check them and restore the local versions
when needed?

Secondly we should also learn people what can and what can't be moved to
Commons so we won't have the problem also.

Huib


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5 August 2013 08:43, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Suggestion 3: Restore the file on en.wiki if it gets deleted on
 Commons...
  No coding needed at all.

  This right here. It should be trivial to just have an admin restore the
  deleted file.


 Or, indeed, for the delinker bot to mark it for restoration.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread Huib Laurens
Not delink it when its in use on other projects will leave a lot of broken
links on projects. I can't believe that would be something what we want?


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Aug 5, 2013 9:58 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:54 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On 5 August 2013 08:43, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Suggestion 3: Restore the file on en.wiki if it gets deleted on
   Commons...
No coding needed at all.
  
This right here. It should be trivial to just have an admin restore
 the
deleted file.
  
  
   Or, indeed, for the delinker bot to mark it for restoration.
  
 
  ...if the same filename was used in Commons as in the source wiki.  That
  does not solve the now used on other wikis problem, however, for those
  other wikis.
 
  That is quite possibly a least-effort trajectory however...
 

 Maybe don't delink it in the first place when it is in use on any projects

 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] The Damned Commons Image Deletion Cycle

2013-08-05 Thread Huib Laurens
The bot alters a page and alerts people about it on the watchlist. By just
deleting the file it can take weeks before somebody even notice that there
is something wrong.

Besides that we have maybe 10 project that allow fair-use Why do we
need to break links at 600+ wiki's for 10 wiki's with a different policy?


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Aug 5, 2013 10:10 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Not delink it when its in use on other projects will leave a lot of
 broken
  links on projects. I can't believe that would be something what we want?
 

 Why not? It immediately alerts whoever looks at it that there  is something
 wrong with the image (which there is). Sure, it doesn't look pretty, but
 you can't have your cake and eat it too. Unless we would want to fork
 development and presentation on our projects, but that's a whole different
 discussion.

 
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Martijn Hoekstra 
 martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
   On Aug 5, 2013 9:58 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:54 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
 On 5 August 2013 08:43, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Huib Laurens 
 sterke...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Suggestion 3: Restore the file on en.wiki if it gets deleted on
 Commons...
  No coding needed at all.

  This right here. It should be trivial to just have an admin
 restore
   the
  deleted file.


 Or, indeed, for the delinker bot to mark it for restoration.

   
...if the same filename was used in Commons as in the source wiki.
  That
does not solve the now used on other wikis problem, however, for
 those
other wikis.
   
That is quite possibly a least-effort trajectory however...
   
  
   Maybe don't delink it in the first place when it is in use on any
 projects
  
   
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0 released

2013-05-28 Thread Huib Laurens
Just wondering:

Why do a release à go home? A error like this should be fixed right after
Discovery?

Huib

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volgende:

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 Today is my first full day back home since the release.  I'll put
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21 release delayed until May 18

2013-05-16 Thread Huib Laurens
What is the blocker?

Huib

Op woensdag 15 mei 2013 schreef Mark A. Hershberger (m...@everybody.org) het
volgende:

 Despite the my intention to release 1.21 today, I have to delay it until
 May 18.  Yesterday someone pointed out a blocker to me.

 While we have a work-around for this, I don't have time to integrate it
 right now, so the release needs to be delayed until Saturday.

 On 05/13/2013 03:12 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
  The final release candidate for MediaWiki 1.21 (rc5) is available for
  download.  See the end of this email for details.  There are a number of
  bug fixes in this release that were not in rc4.  Please test this
  version and report any problems.  Barring any show-stoppers, the final
  release will be on May 15 will be the same as this with just a change to
  the version number and updated release notes.
 
  Changes since rc4:
 
  * Changes to JS/JSON value encoding were backed out.
  * API: Fix parameter validation in setnotificationtimestamp
  commit 18eb39ecb5b89518c3d4a6cc79834a2c121477ff
  Author: Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org javascript:;
  Date:   Fri Mar 15 14:03:19 2013 -0400
 
  * (bug 47271) $wgContentHandlerUseDB should be set to false during the
  upgrade
  * (bug 47489) Installer now automatically selects the next-best database
  type if
   the PHP mysql extension is not loaded, preventing fatal errors in some
  cases.
  * (bug 47202) wikibits: FF2Fixes.css should not be loaded in Firefox 20.
  * (bug 46590) 'AbortChangePassword' hook added/documented (find bug)
  * (bug 46848) toggleLinkPremade added linksPassthru
  * (bug 47950) Fix IndexPager detection of is first state
  * (bug 47304) added safeXmlEncodings to UploadBase for svg uploads
  * (bug 46608) CoreParserFunctions::anchorencode should return a string
 
 
  * Full release notes:
  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21
 
 
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[Wikitech-l] Resign

2013-02-08 Thread Huib Laurens
Dear List(s),

Currently I'm inactive for Wikimedia after a lot of things changed. The
latest change is that I'm now working for a big datacentre and I do not
feel that I have enough time for other things.

I already got a few mails that I was collecting hats, so hereby I stop as:

LangCom member
Administrator for Mediawiki-l
Administrator for Wikitech

I thank you all.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] please send me my INF.

2013-01-08 Thread Huib Laurens
INF?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

2012-05-30 Thread Huib Laurens
I'm still intressted in running a mirror also, like noted on Meta and send
out earlier per mail also.

I'm just wondering, why is there no rsync possibility from the main server?
Its strange when we need to rsync from a mirror.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

2012-05-30 Thread Huib Laurens
Ok, cool.

And how will I get wikimedia to allow our IP to rsync?

Best,

Huib

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 Eh, mirrors rsync directly from dataset1001.wikimedia.org, see rsync
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 However, the system limits the rsyncers to only mirrors, to prevent others
 from rsyncing directly from Wikimedia.

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm still intressted in running a mirror also, like noted on Meta and
 send
  out earlier per mail also.
 
  I'm just wondering, why is there no rsync possibility from the main
 server?
  Its strange when we need to rsync from a mirror.
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

2012-05-30 Thread Huib Laurens
Ok.

I mailed Ariel about this, if all goes will I can have the mirror up and
running by Friday.

Best,
Huib

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia ad...@alphacorp.tkwrote:

 Ariel will do that :)

 BTW just dig around inside their puppet configuration repository on Gerrit
 and you can know more :)

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ok, cool.
 
  And how will I get wikimedia to allow our IP to rsync?
 
  Best,
 
  Huib
 
  On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia ad...@alphacorp.tk
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   Eh, mirrors rsync directly from dataset1001.wikimedia.org, see rsync
   dataset1001.wikimedia.org::
  
   However, the system limits the rsyncers to only mirrors, to prevent
  others
   from rsyncing directly from Wikimedia.
  
   On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
I'm still intressted in running a mirror also, like noted on Meta and
   send
out earlier per mail also.
   
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

2012-05-30 Thread Huib Laurens
Sure :)

http://mirror.fr.wickedway.nl

later on we will duplicate this mirror to a Dutch mirror also :)

Best,
Huib

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 Do you have a url that you can reveal so that some of us can have a sneak
 peak? :P

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ok.
 
  I mailed Ariel about this, if all goes will I can have the mirror up and
  running by Friday.
 
  Best,
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  On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia ad...@alphacorp.tk
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   Ariel will do that :)
  
   BTW just dig around inside their puppet configuration repository on
  Gerrit
   and you can know more :)
  
   On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Ok, cool.
   
And how will I get wikimedia to allow our IP to rsync?
   
Best,
   
Huib
   
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia 
 ad...@alphacorp.tk
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 Eh, mirrors rsync directly from dataset1001.wikimedia.org, see
 rsync
 dataset1001.wikimedia.org::

 However, the system limits the rsyncers to only mirrors, to prevent
others
 from rsyncing directly from Wikimedia.

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com
 
wrote:

  I'm still intressted in running a mirror also, like noted on Meta
  and
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  out earlier per mail also.
 
  I'm just wondering, why is there no rsync possibility from the
 main
 server?
  Its strange when we need to rsync from a mirror.
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does the wikimediaie list have a moderator?

2012-04-19 Thread Huib Laurens
The mod adres is:  wikimediaie-owner[image: at]lists.wikimedia.org

I guess somebody is behing it, did you try mailing it already?

Best,

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On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:55 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaie

 The only mod address is wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org ...

 The question came up because there was a message from Stevie Benton
 (media guy at Wikimedia UK) about a press call from Ireland, stuck in
 the mod queue. It occurs to me there might be all manner of things in
 the mod queue ... and having a moderator is probably good.

 (I'll happily be a mod of last resort, but someone actually in .ie
 would be better.)


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Re: [Wikitech-l] IIS Test Environment (Short URLs)

2012-02-27 Thread Huib Laurens
I have a iis server aivable that is currently not in use. You could
use that if it can be europe based,



2012/2/27, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org:
 On 02/27/2012 03:38 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote:
 I've finished Nginx and Lighttpd support for the short URL building tool
 (http://shorturls.redwerks.org/) and I also have unfinished support for
 thumbnail handlers on the alpha (http://shorturls.jade.redwerks.org/).

 I am wondering if anyone has spare resources they can use to give me a
 temporary test environment for IIS with administrator privileges.
 Essentially I want to setup IIS, install MediaWiki on it, and then
 configure short urls on it determining the best way to do it as I have
 done for both Nginx and Lighttpd. Then after that implement support for
 it into the short URL builder and then re-configure the server and wiki
 to make sure the config works.

 I have a couple of contacts at Microsoft who might be able to help you
 out.  Contacting them.  Grace, Doug, can you get this MediaWiki
 developer a test environment with IIS?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bump of minimum required PHP version to 5.3 for MediaWiki 1.20

2012-02-21 Thread Huib Laurens
Haha!

Its a fact that cPanel will make the upgrade easy to php 5.3 or CentOS 6.*

But I guess it will bring up a lot of questions when it would be bumped up
right now, it seems that PHP 5.2.x is still widly in use..

Best,

Huib

Just checked, but parrelels plesk gives me a PHP 5.3 version, so all
hosting companies should switch to Plesk :P


On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Please note that CentOS is still running PHP 5.2.x out of the box. The
 same
  goes for the cheap controlpanel DirectAdmin.
 
  With a test in cPanel users almost 90% is running CentOS 5.x with PHP
 5.2.x
 
  With changing the minimum version we would stop a lot of users from using
  mediawik...
 

 Maybe it would convince people to stop using cPanel.

 I know it won't happen...but I can dream, can't I? ;-)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bump of minimum required PHP version to 5.3 for MediaWiki 1.20

2012-02-20 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

Please note that CentOS is still running PHP 5.2.x out of the box. The same
goes for the cheap controlpanel DirectAdmin.

With a test in cPanel users almost 90% is running CentOS 5.x with PHP 5.2.x

With changing the minimum version we would stop a lot of users from using
mediawik...


Best,

Huib

On Tuesday, February 21, 2012, Antoine Musso wrote:

 Le 20/02/12 22:01, Sam Reed a écrit :
 

 Here we are again, looking at PHP version bumps. Our current minimum
 version
 is 5.2.3, released in June 2009 (5.2.0 was November 2006).

 I'm proposing to at least bump to version 5.3.0 (as the minimal), release
 back in June 2006. Though a higher point release would be acceptable


 Jeroen asked a few days ago too so there must be interest for PHP 5.3 new
 features.

 We should stick to 5.2.x for now, the main reason would be to keep
 compatibility with HipHop Virtual Machine for PHP [1]. I have no idea which
 5.3 features is/will be supported, Tim probably has more informations.

 Also, would be great to avoid code which do not backport to 1.19. I
 suspect the day we had 5.3.x, people will start rewriting everything to use
 closure and namespaces, making the code totally different again, breaking
 back compatibility with extensions etc...


 [1] 
 https://www.facebook.com/note.**php?note_id=10150415177928920https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150415177928920


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2011-12-31 Thread Huib Laurens
That we need to change in Wikimedia. Wikipedia is just a small part of
the projects.


2011/12/31, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
 Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as
 MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what
 MediaWiki is. I suggest it be changed to Wikipedia or Wikipedia
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Based Open Source Project - Help On Licencing

2011-12-30 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi,

I know that the software we use for our website is payed  (www.whmcs.com)
and you can add a wiki module. This module doesn't cost any extra money,
but you can grap a add-on that costs money what will tune the Wiki CSS into
your websites CSS (pretty cool do!)

But this is just MediaWiki: http://docs.whmcs.com/Special:Version
And the payed addon is a encrypte source code..

Best,

Huib

2011/12/30 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org

 On 30/12/11 08:30, Dan Collins wrote:
  On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  It doesn't need to be compatible or open-source right?
 
  GPL 2.0 section 2 b:
 
  b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
  whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part
  thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties
  under the terms of this License.

 You can modify GPL software for private use. That clause only kicks in
 when you distribute or publish the work, so you're generally OK if
 you're just using it within a single company. Maybe that's what Huib
 meant by closed source.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Mass changes to bugs by Jan Kucera (Kozuch)

2011-12-30 Thread Huib Laurens
+1 my mailbox just got spammed by him...


2011/12/30, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com:
 a user Jan Kucera (Kozuch) (with email of garba...@seznam.cz) has been mass
 changing the priority of bugs based on a very crude vote count. this is
 very disruptive and counter productive issue. I would ask that one of our
 devs mass revert this please.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Based Open Source Project - Help On Licencing

2011-12-29 Thread Huib Laurens
It doesn't need to be compatible or open-source right?

I know a lot of closed source projects that use MediaWiki and just leave a
note that part  is under license xxx by authors xxx.

Best,

Huib

2011/12/29 Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org

 MediaWiki is open source. The license is the GPL version 2. If you use
 the GPL or a compatible license for your project, then everything should
 be okay.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses


 On 12/28/11 10:31 PM, Sajith Vimukthi wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  I am planning to develop a new Open Source project keeping mediawiki as
 the
  baseline. I wonder how the  liciening  policy of mediawiki will affect my
  intention. Could somebody help me on whether it is possible to develop my
  own app using mediawiki and distribute it as an opensource project?
 
  Thanks,
  Regards,
  Sajith Vimukthi Weerakoon,
  T .P No : ++94-716102392
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-11-28 Thread Huib Laurens
I removed that guy also from this list.



2011/11/28 Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Hydriz Wikipedia ad...@wikisorg.tk
 wrote:

 
  Nice one, vandal topped the list of bug resolving...
 

 Remember, kids: cheaters never win!

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[Wikitech-l] Missing pages after upgrade from 1.5 to 1.17

2011-11-14 Thread Huib Laurens
-- Forwarded message --
From: Polaris x...@northerndragons.ca
Date: 2011/11/14
Subject: Trying to report a problem, not sure the right place
To: wikitech-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org


Subjects: Missing pages after upgrade from 1.5 to 1.17

Hi there,

I have a 1.5 site, that I had to evacuate from my current host to a new
hosting provider.  I stood up the old version here:
http://in4k.northerndragons.ca/.
It's running on PHP: 5.2.17 (cgi-fcgi), and MySQL 5.1.39.

I have tried to upgrade this site, using the following process.
1) Creating a replica of the site, by creating a new database / exporting
the old one via PHPmyAdmin, and importing
2) Copying all the data over.
3) Modifying localsettings.php to have the right paths.
4) Validating my site is working as expected.

This works.
Then I drop the files for MediaWiki 1.17, and run the maintenance script
upgrade.php (on the command line), which completes without errors.

The problem is that, I'm missing pages after the upgrade.  You can see it
from my old site (just migrated) vs the 1.17 site:
Most of the user pages are gone, and users for that matter too.

Examples:
Working old version:
http://in4k.northerndragons.ca/index.php?title=User:alrj
Missing new version:
http://beta.in4k.northerndragons.ca/index.php?title=User:Alrj
Says User account Alrj is not registered.

Another:
http://in4k.northerndragons.ca/index.php?title=User:auld
Missing version:
http://beta.in4k.northerndragons.ca/index.php?title=User:Auld
User account Auld is not registered.

What's really odd, is that this isn't true with all users.  For example:
http://in4k.northerndragons.ca/index.php?title=User:Blueberry
and http://beta.in4k.northerndragons.ca/index.php?title=User:Blueberry

Work in both.

I'd greatly appreciate some help here, as I'm totally stumped.
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[Wikitech-l] Another SVN error? (was: Re: [Ticket#2011091710005702] SVN Extension Access)

2011-11-05 Thread Huib Laurens
I have to say that I have the same expirance with the current process for
requesting commit access.

I currently have access to SVN, it was given to me 2 years ago by
TimStarling. But i changed my key(s) but it didn't change for Wikimedia. So
I requested Sumana to close my old account and give me a new account with a
better name.

This was her responds:

Hi Huib,

I apologize for the late response. After some discussion, we decided that
the best
way to proceed is for you to submit your proposed improvements as a patch in
bugzilla.wikimedia.org, or make your extension public on mediawiki.org
(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions). This gives us a much
better
idea of what your proposal is and makes it a lot easier to review.

Sincerely,
Priyanka Dhanda


So I was already given access, but by error I lost the key and now got
removed.

I don't really think the current proces is helping to get more volunteers...

Best,

Huib Laurens
2011/11/5 Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org

 Olivier, I'm truly sorry you had such a negative experience. This is not
 an acceptable situation. We have an inconsistent process, and one which
 is a bit heavyweight when our resourcing for it is rather lightweight.

 I wish you had found the patience to assume good faith. There is no
 reason for accusations that we don't want good developers. Of course we
 *want* them. If we are failing to act like it, it wasn't a personal slam
 at you.

 And, if I may be forgiven for white-knighting, Sumana's job is to needle
 the rest of us so we don't forget about concerns like yours and she
 generally does it very well. And she did sound an apologetic note into
 the email she sent you. So IMO she's not the problem here. Why she
 played a game of telephone here is a bit of a mystery to me though --
 maybe she just wanted to be sure that *someone* pinged you since it had
 been so long. IMO the developer who reviewed your code should have
 contacted you directly.

 I had a look at the module you wrote. I share some of the same concerns
 about scalability, but that's not really the issue.

 I have some experience with user-contributed module archives, having
 administered some shared community resources for Perl, Python, and so
 on. The cultural differences and relative successes were interesting.
 The Python people wanted to have a review process, and a GUI interface,
 and binary modules precompiled, and so on and so on, and their projects
 never really got off the ground. Perl's CPAN started off as a simple FTP
 site where almost anyone could upload code. Guess which one ultimately
 succeeded. The point is, IMO there's relatively little payoff for having
 *any* review process for modules. Just have a way to report and remove
 malware and be done with it. As long as it's clear that the Foundation
 doesn't endorse the software there, what is the problem? Maybe we can
 also have some kind of badge for reviewed or as seen on Wikipedia
 for the stuff we consider good enough to deploy on big sites.

 We already more or less do this -- for instance, there are modules by
 GSoC students that are clearly not ready for prime time, and they are
 marked accordingly.



 On 11/4/11 11:47 PM, MZMcBride wrote:

  The long and short of my advice is this: fuck MediaWiki. If they're
  unwilling to accept your contributions, there are a lot of other FOSS
  projects that would be happy to have you. Thrilled to have you, even. I'd
  strongly encourage finding one. :-)

 And why should he listen to you, when you are unwilling to follow your
 own advice?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Picture of the Year torrents

2011-09-12 Thread Huib Laurens
How big is the total .zip / .rar file? I could mirror that one.

Best,

Huib

2011/9/13 Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com

 Also, please repair the broken image by linking to :

 //

 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/PODY_barnstar.svg/95px-PODY_barnstar.svg.png

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 2011/9/12 emijrp emi...@gmail.com

  Hi all;
 
  I have created two torrent files for the PIcture of the Year dumps[1].
 They
  use Wikimedia server as webseed.[2][3] Can you add them to the page?
 
  Thanks,
  emijrp
 
  [1] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/poty/
  [2] http://burnbit.com/torrent/177023/poty2006_zip
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Reclaiming a lost account on a private wiki: impossible

2011-08-16 Thread Huib Laurens
make the wiki less private for a second, request the password and voila


2011/8/16 Svip svi...@gmail.com

 http://wiki.dikurevy.dk/Speciel:PasswordReset?uselang=en

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Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Huib Laurens
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Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Huib Laurens
We shouldn't focus on getting people away from IE. We should stay
neutral and advice people to upgrade.

2011/6/3, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com:
 Why not?

 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats completly not the point.

 2011/6/3, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com:
 We don't want to use Microsoft's, whatever we do, because it promotes
 their
 own borked browser IE9.

 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mark Dilley markwdil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 aside from main conversation

 Would it be a good community gesture to join Microsoft in trying to
 eradicate IE6?

 http://TheIE6Countdown.com

 or to not join them and put up a more general banner

 http://IE6NoMore.com

 and move on?

 /aside from main conversation


 On 03Jun2011, at 10:53 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:

  On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
 
  On 03/06/11 06:56, Brion Vibber wrote:
  For 1) I'm honestly a bit willing to sacrifice a few IE 6 users at
  this
  point; the vendor's dropped support, shipped three major versions,
  and
 is
  actively campaigning to get the remaining users to upgrade. :) But I
 get
  protecting, so if we can find a workaround that's ok.
 
  We can't really do this without sending Vary: User-Agent, which
  would completely destroy our cache hit ratio. For people who use
  Squid
  with our X-Vary-Options patch, it would be possible to use a very
  long
  X-Vary-Options header to single out IE 6 requests, but not everyone
  has that patch.
 
 
  I'm really thinking more along the lines of: if someone's an IE
 6-or-below
  user they have hundreds of other exploit vectors staring them in the
  face
  too, and we can't protect them against many of them -- or ANY of them
  if
  they're visiting other sites than just an up-to-date MediaWiki.
 
  The cost of this fix has been immense; several versions of the fix
  with
  varying levels of disruption on production sites, both for IE 6 users
  and
  non-IE 6 users, and several weeks of delay on the 1.17.0 release.
 
  I'd be willing to accept a few drive-by downloads for IE 6 users; it's
 not
  ideal but it's something that their antivirus tools etc will already
  be
  watching out for, that end-users already get trained to beware of, and
 that
  will probably *still* be exploitable on other web sites that they
  visit
  anyway.
 
 
  The main issue here is that we don't a wide variety of web servers set
  up for testing. We know that Apache lets you detect %2E versus dot
  via
  $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'], but we don't know if any other web servers
  do
  that.
 
  Note that checking for %2E alone is not sufficient, a lot of
  installations (including Wikimedia) have an alias /wiki -
  /w/index.php which can be used to exploit action=raw.
 
 
  Well that should be fine; as long as we can see the /wiki?/foo.bat
  then
 we
  can identify that it doesn't contain an unencoded dot in the path.
 
  It sounds like simply checking REQUEST_URI when available would
  eliminate
 a
  huge portion of our false positives that affect real-world situations.
  Apache is still the default web server in most situations for most
  folks,
  and of course runs our own production servers.
 
 
 
  Are there any additional exploit vectors for API output other than
  HTML
  tags
  mixed unescaped into JSON?
 
  Yes, all other content types, as I said above.
 
 
  Only as drive-by downloads, or as things that execute without
 interaction?
 
 
  I think the current solution in trunk, plus the redirect idea that
  I've been discussing with Roan, is our best bet for now, unless
  someone wants to investigate $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'].
 
 
  *nod* Checking REQUEST_URI is probably the first thing we should do
  when
  it's available.
 
 
  If there is an actual problem with ForeignAPIRepo then we can look at
  server-side special cases for it. But r89248 should allow all API
  requests that have a dotless value in their last GET parameter, and a
  quick review of ForeignAPIRepo in 1.16 and trunk indicates that it
  always sends such requests.
 
 
  Yay! That's one less thing to worry about. :D
 
 
  Since we're talking about discarded solutions for this, maybe it's
  worth noting that I also investigated using a Content-Disposition
  header. The vulnerability involves an incorrect cache filename, and
  it's possible to override the cache filename using a
  Content-Disposition filename parameter. The reason I gave up on it
  is because we already use Content-Disposition for wfStreamFile():
 
        header( Content-Disposition:
  inline;filename*=utf-8'$wgLanguageCode' . urlencode( basename(
  $fname
  ) ) );
 
  IE 6 doesn't understand the charset specification, so it ignores the
  header and goes back to detecting the extension.
 
 
  Good to know.
 
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[Wikitech-l] Renaming projects

2011-05-22 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

Last year there where a lot of discussions about projects inside wikimedia
that needed to be renamed. The last thing I can remember is that it wasn't
possible at that time. However I would like to know if something changed
since the last discussion?

There are like 5 or 6 projects under discussion that /could/ be renamed, so
the question remains: Is it possible?


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Re: [Wikitech-l] wiki/ prefix in URL

2011-05-17 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi,

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory is not
related right?

We aren't going to run the wiki in the root, that will stay in /w/ we are
only looking for a shorter url if I'm correct.



2011/5/18 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com

 Hoi,
 Does that mean that you want to have something else in stead of view in
 each language ?
 Thanks,
  GerardM

 On 18 May 2011 06:25, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

  John Vandenberg wrote:
   from foundation-l thread [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]
  
   On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org
  wrote:
   On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Lodewijk 
 lodew...@effeietsanders.org
   wrote:
   Of course
   unless someone finds a way to redirect en.wikipedia.org/Example to
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example .
  
   Did you mean to type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example? You will
   be automatically redirected there in five seconds.
  
   :-)
  
   It already redirects there, though we don't want to advertise that we
   have a link shortener because the 404 page redirects.
  
   Is there a good reason for us to always include the '/wiki/' in the
 URL?
   Removing the prefix would save five characters, and I'm guessing that
   it would also save a measurable amount of traffic serving 5KB 404
   pages.
  
   Is there something else on these virtual hosts other than a few
   regexes which are extremely unlikely to be used as page names (i.e.
   \/w\/.*\.php).
 
  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory
 
  Changing the URL structure is a big deal. There's been discussion about
  switching /wiki/ to /view/ if $wgActionPaths are implemented on
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Static HTML Dumps

2011-04-05 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

The HTML dump proces isn't running anymore according to the message on the
downloads page.
The most recent en.wiki dump is in XML and here:
http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20110317/

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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Peering

2011-03-14 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

The foundationsite says in the article peering that the foundation is
looking for free rack-space / routers.

What kind of facilities do they want? Is there a more detailed pages
with the wishes en needs for the foundation, or can that be geven here
on the list?

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[Wikitech-l] New List admin

2011-02-28 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi,

The last month(s) I'm starting to get more busy every day what kind of means
that I didn't have time to respond fast...

So I contacted Chad, and from this moment he is the second list admin for
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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-12 Thread Huib Laurens
I don't understand the email also... The secure site has been arround
for years...

2011/2/13, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com:
 jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
 Someone posted a link to
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hogtie_bondage

 Delving further, we find
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Main_Page says
 Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, when in fact the real site is
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page . Or is it?

 In fact on any page on either site, one cannot find any link to the
 corresponding page on the other site.

 So now everybody will be passing around two times the amount of links to
 what in fact is the same material.

 OK, I found the pattern for converting one to the other:
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hogtie_bondage
 _
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hogtie_bondage

 One would hope the owners of Wiki[pm]would redirect etc. one to the
 other, to stem the proliferation of non-canonical links.

 What in the Christ are you talking about?

 Reading with squinted eyes and a cocked head, it sounds like you've
 discovered the secure site. It's documented here:

 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Secure_server
 * http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/secure.wikimedia.org

 I have no idea what this has to do with hogtie bondage or why a post to this
 mailing list (or the gendergap mailing list, for that matter) was necessary.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does anybody have the 20080726 dump version?

2011-01-01 Thread Huib Laurens
I have been talking to Ariel about mirroring the dumps.

I guess that I know at the end of the month if we really are going to do
it... But sounds good to have some stable mirrors.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does anybody have the 20080726 dump version?

2010-12-31 Thread Huib Laurens
Ariel,

I have a few old nlwiki files, should I upload them also for you? I
can upload them next week when I am back, currently traveling in
germany.

Best,

Huib

2010/12/31, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org:
 Anthony:

 We would like to get copies of any of these dumps as well.  This
 includes any of the other files: stubs, tables, the lot.

 If you have them for other languages or other time periods, that would
 be great to know too.  I think we could ship you a disk, or two if
 needed. Contact me off list if you like.

 Ariel (looking to fill up dataset2's new arrays ;-) )

 Στις 31-12-2010, ημέρα Παρ, και ώρα 07:35 +0100, ο/η Huib Laurens
 έγραψε:
 You can place it on my server, will give you the details inn private

 2010/12/30, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
  On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
  I just asked Dreamhost if they would give me permission to violate
  their TOS for this one time one file.
 
  And the person who responded just told me that he's not authorized to
  give me permission to do that.
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does anybody have the 20080726 dump version?

2010-12-31 Thread Huib Laurens
I will check when I get home.

Be carefull with fireworks and speak to you all in 2011

Best,

Huib



2010/12/31, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org:
 Yes, we should arrange it; please let me know the  dates on them and I
 can doublecheck if we have them or not.

 Thanks!

 Ariel

 Στις 31-12-2010, ημέρα Παρ, και ώρα 10:34 +0100, ο/η Huib Laurens
 έγραψε:
 Ariel,

 I have a few old nlwiki files, should I upload them also for you? I
 can upload them next week when I am back, currently traveling in
 germany.

 Best,

 Huib

 2010/12/31, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org:
  Anthony:
 
  We would like to get copies of any of these dumps as well.  This
  includes any of the other files: stubs, tables, the lot.
 
  If you have them for other languages or other time periods, that would
  be great to know too.  I think we could ship you a disk, or two if
  needed. Contact me off list if you like.
 
  Ariel (looking to fill up dataset2's new arrays ;-) )
 
  Στις 31-12-2010, ημέρα Παρ, και ώρα 07:35 +0100, ο/η Huib Laurens
  έγραψε:
  You can place it on my server, will give you the details inn private
 
  2010/12/30, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
   On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
   I just asked Dreamhost if they would give me permission to violate
   their TOS for this one time one file.
  
   And the person who responded just told me that he's not authorized to
   give me permission to do that.
  
   So, any volunteers to host this would still be appreciated.
  
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does anybody have the 20080726 dump version?

2010-12-31 Thread Huib Laurens
If it fails i can give you access on others ways, its a dedicated
server that doesn't have a job right now...

2010/12/31, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, I emailed to Anthony how he can upload it.

 Transfer is in progress.  ETA about 10 hours.  md5sum is
 30c9b48de3ede527289bcdb810126723

 Hopefully there aren't any problems as I'm not quite sure how to
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does anybody have the 20080726 dump version?

2010-12-31 Thread Huib Laurens
I hope Ariel will take a copy offline for wikimedia, i'm going to
place it on a tape also... Hope it wont get lost anymore.


P.S ariel i can send a copy of the tape to you if you dont want to download it

2010/12/31, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Anthony:

 We would like to get copies of any of these dumps as well.  This
 includes any of the other files: stubs, tables, the lot.

 If you have them for other languages or other time periods, that would
 be great to know too.  I think we could ship you a disk, or two if
 needed. Contact me off list if you like.

 Ariel (looking to fill up dataset2's new arrays ;-) )

 I'll work on a list.  Are these going to be hosted somewhere?  It
 would be nice for me to have an offsite backup.  Then I'd feel more
 comfortable tossing the bz2 files once I've recompressed them to xz.

 I should mention that these were collected from all over the Internet,
 and while I've made some effort to make sure they are the same files
 originally distributed, it's possible that some of them are corrupted
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does anybody have the 20080726 dump version?

2010-12-30 Thread Huib Laurens
You can place it on my server, will give you the details inn private

2010/12/30, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
 On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
 I just asked Dreamhost if they would give me permission to violate
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Does anybody have the 20080726 dump version?

2010-12-30 Thread Huib Laurens
Okay, I emailed to Anthony how he can upload it.

after he is done the content will be at: http://dump.huiblaurens.nl

When the date is online I will make sure I have a copy of it somewhere else
on a server so it won't get lost.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Removing test suites from trunk

2010-12-06 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi!

MediaWiki is famous because its almost supported in all languages that's
something other wiki software don't have, lets not try to remove that. So I
think the main bundle should be mediawiki with *all* languages.

But a other option is to add a second download option where people can
download mediawiki with only EN and make tarballs for all languages
available so people can add the languages they want. Maybe something that
can be done on a mirror site.

Huib

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 On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Niklas Laxström wrote:

  On 6 December 2010 08:11, Q overlo...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think better time would be spent decoupling all the languages.  Out
  the 57 megs for an svn export, 41 is the languages directory. Distribute
  the Big $foo, where $foo is some reasonable number of major languages,
  and offer the rest as a seperate dl.

 Perhaps an option would be to remove them from phase3, and moving them to a
 separate directory. Then, if someone switches the wiki language to some
 obscure language, or does uselang=dfdjdkgj, or other activity that needs an
 obscure language, it would run a one-time download to the local filesystem.
 Might be too slow, but it's only a 1 time download.

 Just an idea.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] WinCache support review ?

2010-11-15 Thread Huib Laurens
I'm willing to test it this week when needed

2010/11/15, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr:
 Hello,

 Chad added support for the Microsoft Windows Cache (WINCACHE) with
 r66364 and r66369, thus fixing bug 22844.  This is obviously not going
 to be used for WikiMedia and I am not sure a lot of our developers are
 able to test it.

 Should we just mark both revisions as deferred or is there anyone
 willing to review this feature ?  =)


 Links:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/66364
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/66369
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Announce]: Mark Bergsma promotion to Operations Engineer Programs Manager

2010-09-15 Thread Huib Laurens
congrats!

2010/9/15 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com

 Hello,

  Please join me in congratulating Mark Bergsma on his promotion last week
  to Operations EPM.

 Congratulations with a long title (whatever it means, Enterprise?
 Executive? Project Manager?)
 What is the rationale for another Director of Operations? What will he
 direct? What is the future structure of 'ops'?
 Who participated in the discussion about ops leadership needs?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] On decentralized discussions

2010-09-08 Thread Huib Laurens
1 - 0 for Domas

2010/9/9, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com:

 Why decentralized discussions even more? And is there a reason you
 always seem to spilt your replies to the thread into new treads/topics
 instead of just replying to the original one?


 Innovation, maybe?

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[Wikitech-l] Error installing CentralAuth

2010-08-20 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

I hope somebody can help me, I'm trying to install CentralAuth on my
wikifarm but I get a strange error and I don't know what I'm missing...

My testsetup contains 4 databases so I made the conf:

$wgLocalDatabases = array(
'wikiweet',
'llamada_intern',
'wikiweet_intern',
'llamada',
'wikiweet_recepten',
);

$wgConf-wikis = $wgLocalDatabases;
$wgConf-suffixes = $wgLocalDatabases;
$wgConf-siteParamsCallback = 'efGetSiteParams';
$wgConf-extractAllGlobals( $wgDBname );

the last lines of my localsettings.php are;

require_once (/home/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.php);
$wgCentralAuthDatabase = 'shared';

When I try to run:
migratePass0.phphttp://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/migratePass0.phpor
migratePass1.phphttp://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/migratePass0.php

I get this error:

CentralAuth migration pass 1:
Finding accounts which can be migrated without interaction...
Er is een syntaxisfout in het databaseverzoek opgetreden.
Het laatste verzoek aan de database was:
âSELECT
user_id,user_email,user_email_authenticated,user_password,user_editcount
FROM `user`  WHERE user_name = 'A verspuy'  LIMIT 1  â
CentralAuthUser::localUserDataâ
   De database gaf de volgende foutmelding:
â1146: Table 'wikiweet.user' doesn't exist (localhost)â


When I try to use special:MergeAccount

I also got the error that Table wikiweet.user doesn't exist


All databases are localhost, and have the prefix mw_ and I'm sure all
databases contain a  user table.


I run the trunk version of mediawiki.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia says This wiki has a problem

2010-08-11 Thread Huib Laurens
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia says This wiki has a problem

2010-08-11 Thread Huib Laurens
Magnus,

Maybe this was just a test so we know for sure that we go down during the
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki security release: 1.16.0 and 1.15.5

2010-07-28 Thread Huib Laurens
This post returned 20 autorespond emails, why cant people fix there out of
office mesages and skip the mailinglists :S

And congrats with 1.16 :D I like it


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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Commons-l] InstantCommons serving up non-free files

2010-07-26 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi Casey.

I was thinking about a bot that also imports the history, but on the server
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Upload file size limit

2010-07-20 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello Lars,

I don´t think the problem is raising it to 200mb, or 150 mb but 500mb or 1
gb are a lot higher and can cause problems

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailman archives not being updated

2010-06-05 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi Fred,

Could this problem be announced somewhere? Techblog or a bug we could reffer
to, I have seen +5 questions about this so far and I wasn't online that
much...

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla cleanup

2010-05-15 Thread Huib Laurens
I can still mark as Fixed, Worksforme and all others..

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-14 Thread Huib Laurens
When visiting a vector site with a Nokia N-series (tested on N90,95and
96) viewing it on Opera Mini there are problems also.

Its impossible to click the buttons userpage, talkpage, watchlist ..
they are all in the same spot, trying to press will give the
prefences.

The Buttons with Edit Talk History are all in the same place and
pressing one isn't working at all.

Best,


2010/5/14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
 BTW, Vector is also breaking the PS3 browser, according to a couple of
 comments on the blog post.

 We seem not to be quite achieving that graceful degradation thing
 immaculately ...


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Re: [Wikitech-l] How to use wikipedia's images on my local mediawiki

2010-05-10 Thread Huib Laurens
Gerard,

When its a copy of the English Wikipedia it would be best to link te
en.wiki api.

Using Commons would make sure all fair use stuff that isn't on Commons
would return red links.

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2010/5/10, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
 Hoi,
 Would it not make more sense to refer to the Commons repository?
 Thanks,
GerardM

 On 10 May 2010 16:16, John Doe phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote:

 $wgForeignFileRepos[] = array(
   'class'   = 'ForeignAPIRepo',
   'name'= 'enwp',
   'apibase' = 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php',
   'fetchDescription'= true, // Optional
   'descriptionCacheExpiry'  = 43200, // 12 hours, optional
   'apiThumbCacheExpiry' = 43200, // 12 hours, optional, but required
 for local thumb caching
 );

 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:04 AM, 李琴 q...@ica.stc.sh.cn wrote:

 
   Hi all,
 
   I import all the data of wikipedia into my local mediawiki.And
  then
 I
  want to use the images of wikipedia on my wiki.
 
   How can I get the images?  And how to import the images into my local
  mediawiki?
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks a lot.
 
  vanessa lee
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Web server authentication (was New 1.15.3 install)

2010-05-06 Thread Huib Laurens
I think it would be good to have that in the core so people know the
auth is safe and up to date.

We have a lot of extensions, most of them are already broken, or will
be broken when 1.16 is released.

And the extensions that still work are really bad, they don't let ano
users edit, or they need to disable user registration. (LDAP works
good btw)

I think it would be very good to have a basic auth function in mediawiki.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Languages

2010-04-11 Thread Huib Laurens
I'm using the symlinks now and it works great.

Thank you :)

Huib

2010/4/11, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 There's no config var for that like there is for the skin, cache and
 upload paths, but you could always use symlinks for the
 /languages/messages/ directory (provided you're not on Windows).

 Symlinks theoretically exist in recent versions of Windows, although I
 don't know how bad compatibility problems are in practice.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Common.css not working

2010-03-24 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi,

I think you forgot to add the code.

Best,
Huib

2010/3/24, Makelesi Kora-Gonelevu makele...@gmail.com:
 Hi im trying to hide the [view source] tab from annonymous users to my wiki.

 i pasted the following code in the MediaWiki:Common.css page but nothing
 happens.

 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Auto Reply: Auto Reply: Transclude contemporary template states to page hisories?

2010-03-21 Thread Huib Laurens
Fail...

2010/3/21 leo.st-jacq...@hc-sc.gc.ca

 This is an auto-replied message. I am out of office right now and will
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Uploads on small wikis

2010-03-11 Thread Huib Laurens
2010/3/11 Conrad Irwin conrad.ir...@googlemail.com


 Instead, why not redirect people with no permissions straight to
 Commons? I think you can upload there when not auto-confirmed. Some
 projects (en.wiktionary for example) already redirect everyone to
 commons when they click upload.

 Yours
 Conrad


On Commons you can upload right away, but Commons doesn't have a good
support for small languages that can scare people away :(

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Re: [Wikitech-l] query data from Wikipedia dump?

2010-03-09 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi,

I think that that is done on the databases on the toolserver instead
of the dumps.

http://www.toolserver.org

Huib

2010/3/9, zh...@york.ac.uk zh...@york.ac.uk:
 I don't know if here is the space to ask this. I heard there are some web
 where people voluntarily help on querying data list from Wikipedia dump
 and solve statistic problem.

 May I ask is it still exist? If so, how can i find it?

 best,

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Newbie questions

2010-02-25 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi,

I don't know if there is a FAQ but the Wikimedia tech staff is on this
list for sure :-)

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[Wikitech-l] Central Auth

2010-02-12 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

I was trying to figure out how to work with Central Auth but the page
on the wiki is kind of small and not clear.

I have four wiki's all running on the same server with mediawiki
1.16alpha and mysql

All four wiki's have a own database
main
intern
llam
kook

Is it needed for me to merge them all in one database?

I also understand that I need to create a new database with the data
for the Central Auth and run the sql on that database, or should I run
that on all the databases?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-08-29 Thread Huib Laurens
How do you want it changed?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Special pages

2009-02-17 Thread Huib Laurens
Brion,

You Rock!!!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge from Another Server

2009-02-09 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

Is the other server still up? Because than you can export the pages
you want on the new server and import them there.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bring your language to Commons

2008-12-08 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi,

I never liked a bot to welcome new users. Isn't it much better to do
it by hand? So people also have a contact to go to with qeustions.

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