Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote:
I doubt the addition of overflow:hidden has this consequence since
that has been broadly tested
in all kinds of browsers and has been default on several wikis for a
long while.
IIRC, overflow: hidden does indeed cause this issue on at least one
very old browser, maybe IE5/Mac. I vaguely recall it being tried but
reverted sometime several years ago. If memory serves and IE5/Mac is
the issue, of course, we should just ignore it, because it would be
crazy to try supporting it.
He is indeed using IE5 for Mac.
I guess that adding
h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
overflow: visible;
}
to his monobook.css will fix it.
Do we have some CSS trick to target IE5 Mac?
Removing the headers isn't too friendly, so if there's an easy fix, I
would apply it.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
The fix is to stop using IE for Mac -- it's been unmaintained for almost a decade and is wildly broken in so many ways that it's pretty much useless for everyday web browsing. -- brion On Jan 3, 2011 9:58 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
On Jan 3, 2011 10:09 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: The fix is to stop using IE for Mac -- it's been unmaintained for almost a decade and is wildly broken in so many ways that it's pretty much useless for everyday web browsing. -- brion Fwiw, it still runs in Snow Leopard ;-) That's how I know it's so awful! ;) -- brion -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
The fix is to stop using IE for Mac -- it's been unmaintained for almost a decade and is wildly broken in so many ways that it's pretty much useless for everyday web browsing. -- brion On Jan 3, 2011 9:58 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it is quite useful for downloading .svg files as it gives a message that it doesn't know how to display them, and offers an option to save file. I'm apologize for referring Marc to this list. I could have caught that myself if I had tried my IE 5.2 for Mac on a Wikipedia page. Fred Bauder ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
Actually, it is quite useful for downloading .svg files as it gives a message that it doesn't know how to display them, and offers an option to save file. I'm apologize for referring Marc to this list. I could have caught that myself if I had tried my IE 5.2 for Mac on a Wikipedia page. Fred Bauder You can right click and choose Save as.. or something alike in any other browser that does support SVG files. No need for IE5 for Mac. -- Krinkle ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
He is indeed using IE5 for Mac.
I guess that adding
h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
overflow: visible;
}
to his monobook.css will fix it.
Do we have some CSS trick to target IE5 Mac?
Removing the headers isn't too friendly, so if there's an easy fix, I
would apply it.
There is some CSS conditional stuff for IE5/Mac, didn't we have a CSS
fix file especially for this browser?
Marco
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Marco Schuster ma...@harddisk.is-a-geek.org wrote: There is some CSS conditional stuff for IE5/Mac, didn't we have a CSS fix file especially for this browser? Yes there was such a file. I deleted it because it wasn't being used and it didn't actually fix anything. -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
On 12/31/2010 03:07 PM, Platonides wrote:
Marc Riddell wrote:
I have been a WP editor since 2006. I hope you can help me. For some reason
I no longer have Section Heading titles showing in the Articles. This is
true of all Headings including the one that carries the Article subject's
name. When there is a Table of Contents, it appears fine and, when I click
on a particular Section, it goes to that Section, but all that is there is a
straight line separating the Sections. There is also no button to edit a
Section. If I edit the page and remove the == == markers from the Section
Titles, the Title then shows up, but not as a Section Heading. Also, I don't
have any Date separators on my Want List. This started 2 days ago. Any
thoughts?
Thanks,
Marc Riddell
[[User:Michael David]]
You have something like
h1, h2, h3 { display: none }
inside your monobook.css / vector.css ?
Neither subpage seems to exist on en.wikipedia. Of course, he could
have something like that as a user style in his browser, but I find that
unlikely.
There wasn't any global update in the last days.
Given the long expiration times we set for our script and style pages, I
think any change within the last 30 days or so could be the cause.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt the addition of overflow:hidden has this consequence since that has been broadly tested in all kinds of browsers and has been default on several wikis for a long while. IIRC, overflow: hidden does indeed cause this issue on at least one very old browser, maybe IE5/Mac. I vaguely recall it being tried but reverted sometime several years ago. If memory serves and IE5/Mac is the issue, of course, we should just ignore it, because it would be crazy to try supporting it. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
Op 2 jan 2011, om 01:13 heeft Aryeh Gregor het volgende geschreven: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt the addition of overflow:hidden has this consequence since that has been broadly tested in all kinds of browsers and has been default on several wikis for a long while. IIRC, overflow: hidden does indeed cause this issue on at least one very old browser, maybe IE5/Mac. I vaguely recall it being tried but reverted sometime several years ago. If memory serves and IE5/Mac is the issue, of course, we should just ignore it, because it would be crazy to try supporting it. Indeed, if Marc Riddell is using IE5/Mac then we can't help but to say that you should switch to a more recent browser, because MediaWIki has dropped support for it. Which doesn't mean everything has to brake. There are plenty of people among the developers who know especially much about the behaviour of older browsers and will try to implement proper fallbacks where possible. But overflow:hidden fixes many issues, and shows no problems in any of the supported browsers (not even IE6). -- Krinkle ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
Marc Riddell wrote: I have been a WP editor since 2006. I hope you can help me. For some reason I no longer have Section Heading titles showing in the Articles. This is true of all Headings including the one that carries the Article subject's name. When there is a Table of Contents, it appears fine and, when I click on a particular Section, it goes to that Section, but all that is there is a straight line separating the Sections. There is also no button to edit a Section. If I edit the page and remove the == == markers from the Section Titles, the Title then shows up, but not as a Section Heading. Also, I don't have any Date separators on my Want List. This started 2 days ago. Any thoughts? Do you have the problem logged in and logged out? Do you have the problem in a specific web browser or in multiple web browsers? This mailing list (wikitech-l) isn't the best forum for debugging issues like this. IRC or a village pump are usually much better forums for this type of problem.[1][2] Please reply to me off-list or post to the village pump in order to keep traffic on this list more focused. :-) MZMcBride [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_on_IRC [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
Marc Riddell wrote:
Hello,
I have been a WP editor since 2006. I hope you can help me. For some reason
I no longer have Section Heading titles showing in the Articles. This is
true of all Headings including the one that carries the Article subject's
name. When there is a Table of Contents, it appears fine and, when I click
on a particular Section, it goes to that Section, but all that is there is a
straight line separating the Sections. There is also no button to edit a
Section. If I edit the page and remove the == == markers from the Section
Titles, the Title then shows up, but not as a Section Heading. Also, I don't
have any Date separators on my Want List. This started 2 days ago. Any
thoughts?
Thanks,
Marc Riddell
[[User:Michael David]]
You have something like
h1, h2, h3 { display: none }
inside your monobook.css / vector.css ?
There wasn't any global update in the last days.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 04:36:26AM -0500, MZMcBride wrote: Marc Riddell wrote: I have been a WP editor since 2006. I hope you can help me. For some reason I no longer have Section Heading titles showing in the Articles. This is true of all Headings including the one that carries the Article subject's name. When there is a Table of Contents, it appears fine and, when I click on a particular Section, it goes to that Section, but all that is there is a straight line separating the Sections. There is also no button to edit a Section. If I edit the page and remove the == == markers from the Section Titles, the Title then shows up, but not as a Section Heading. Also, I don't have any Date separators on my Want List. This started 2 days ago. Any thoughts? Do you have the problem logged in and logged out? Do you have the problem in a specific web browser or in multiple web browsers? This mailing list (wikitech-l) isn't the best forum for debugging issues like this. IRC or a village pump are usually much better forums for this type of problem.[1][2] This may be related to enwiki's recent addition of overflow:hidden to Common.css for header elements, which was also done to MediaWiki's stylesheets in r79087 and r79091. See also bug 26449. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing Section Headings
Marc Riddell wrote: I have been a WP editor since 2006. I hope you can help me. For some reason I no longer have Section Heading titles showing in the Articles. This is true of all Headings including the one that carries the Article subject's name. When there is a Table of Contents, it appears fine and, when I click on a particular Section, it goes to that Section, but all that is there is a straight line separating the Sections. There is also no button to edit a Section. If I edit the page and remove the == == markers from the Section Titles, the Title then shows up, but not as a Section Heading. Also, I don't have any Date separators on my Want List. This started 2 days ago. Any thoughts? Which browser are you using ? (ie. Mozilla Firefox, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome). And which version of that browser ? What kind of system do you run this browser on ? (ie. Apple Mac, Windows, Linux etc.) These details are important, without them it's impossible to solve your problem as many people don't have this problem. I doubt the addition of overflow:hidden has this consequence since that has been broadly tested in all kinds of browsers and has been default on several wikis for a long while. -- Krinkle ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
