Re: [Wikitech-l] Sorting out MediaWiki @ social media

2012-12-18 Thread Chad
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 * @wikimediatech is fine as a bot driven account. As soon as I find out who
 has access to that account I will propose a rename to something 'mediawiki'
 for naming consistency (privately, this is like discussing domain names).
 Followers will be unaffected.


This shouldn't be renamed imho, since it's not about MediaWiki--it's about
Wikimedia tech generally.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Sorting out MediaWiki @ social media

2012-12-18 Thread Quim Gil

On 12/18/2012 11:21 AM, Chad wrote:

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:

* @wikimediatech is fine as a bot driven account. As soon as I find out who
has access to that account I will propose a rename to something 'mediawiki'
for naming consistency (privately, this is like discussing domain names).
Followers will be unaffected.



This shouldn't be renamed imho, since it's not about MediaWiki--it's about
Wikimedia tech generally.


We agree on the meaning. Let's try to agree on the words.

This is a side effect of this ambiguous use of MediaWiki / 
Wikimedia-tech that we haven't resolved yet.


MediaWiki as in MediaWiki project, MediaWiki community, MediaWiki 
groups... Not just MediaWiki Core.


For outsiders, we can be found at mediawiki.org and therefore it's easy 
to identify us as MediaWiki. It's also easy to explain that MediaWiki 
powers Wikipedia. But explaining Wikimedia is more complex, and then 
making a cut to isolate Wikimedia tech is just too much for the casual 
reader.


Hence the idea of simplifying with MediaWiki as a general term.

For instance, the proposal says:

Description: News from the MediaWiki project. Powering Wikipedia and 
the Wikimedia movement.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Sorting out MediaWiki @ social media

2012-12-18 Thread Chad
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 On 12/18/2012 11:21 AM, Chad wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 * @wikimediatech is fine as a bot driven account. As soon as I find out
 who
 has access to that account I will propose a rename to something
 'mediawiki'
 for naming consistency (privately, this is like discussing domain names).
 Followers will be unaffected.


 This shouldn't be renamed imho, since it's not about MediaWiki--it's about
 Wikimedia tech generally.


 We agree on the meaning. Let's try to agree on the words.

 This is a side effect of this ambiguous use of MediaWiki /
 Wikimedia-tech that we haven't resolved yet.

 MediaWiki as in MediaWiki project, MediaWiki community, MediaWiki
 groups... Not just MediaWiki Core.

 For outsiders, we can be found at mediawiki.org and therefore it's easy to
 identify us as MediaWiki. It's also easy to explain that MediaWiki powers
 Wikipedia. But explaining Wikimedia is more complex, and then making a cut
 to isolate Wikimedia tech is just too much for the casual reader.

 Hence the idea of simplifying with MediaWiki as a general term.

 For instance, the proposal says:

 Description: News from the MediaWiki project. Powering Wikipedia and the
 Wikimedia movement.


But I don't think that description is accurate at all. The MediaWiki project
refers to MediaWiki--not other WMF sites.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Sorting out MediaWiki @ social media

2012-12-18 Thread Quim Gil

On 12/18/2012 11:56 AM, Chad wrote:

But I don't think that description is accurate at all. The MediaWiki project
refers to MediaWiki--not other WMF sites.


Ok, if @wikimediatech is only distributing updates about 
http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/ then you are right and let's just leave 
the username as it is.


Still, can the description be perhaps improved?

Wikimedia Tech Team (identi.ca) or Wikimedia Tech Staff (Twitter) 
can be confused by outsiders as a place to know about all tech related 
activities. I wonder how many of the 80 / 535 followers (our highest 
numbers in any tech related account) fell in this confusion.


What about something more descriptive?

Wikimedia technical infrastructure updates.

Pointing to the MediaWiki account from the description would be also useful.

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Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
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