Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
2011/6/8 Strainu : > Yes, it does depend on the project, but I'm pretty sure that in most > projects there are some chunks of js in Common.js that simply should > not be disabled. In my opinion any custom ui feature should be optional, because it will never satisfy all users. It will also simplify developing and testing new versions of a gadget, by giving users an ability to turn off old version and turn on the new one. User having trouble with interfering scripts will be able to find out which ones by selectively disabling gadgets. Getting rid of MediaWiki:Common.js may not be feasible for all projects, in the end it is all up to sysops how much freedom they are willing to grant to contributors and viewers. Regards, Ildefons Stułbia ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
2011/6/8 Ildefons Stułbia : > 2011/6/7 Leo Koppelkamm : >> There's usually some code (general utility fn's, some legacy remappings >> etc.) in common.js that could break a lot of stuff if missing. +1 on moving >> optional stuff to gadgets > > It depends on project. General utility functions should be available > as modules, which can be loaded when there is such need (as a > dependency to a gadget or by user/script explicitly). It makes easier > to port gadget to other projects and maintain them, when its > dependencies are well defined, so all changes can be easily tracked. > Separate modules can be directly imported, which is impossible with > overbloated MediaWiki:Common.js. > Yes, it does depend on the project, but I'm pretty sure that in most projects there are some chunks of js in Common.js that simply should not be disabled. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
2011/6/7 Leo Koppelkamm : > There's usually some code (general utility fn's, some legacy remappings etc.) > in common.js that could break a lot of stuff if missing. +1 on moving > optional stuff to gadgets It depends on project. General utility functions should be available as modules, which can be loaded when there is such need (as a dependency to a gadget or by user/script explicitly). It makes easier to port gadget to other projects and maintain them, when its dependencies are well defined, so all changes can be easily tracked. Separate modules can be directly imported, which is impossible with overbloated MediaWiki:Common.js. Regards, Ildefons Stułbia ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
Default gadgets would solve an issue I am facing at the moment :) So +1 to deployment of updates. Tom On 7 June 2011 22:25, Leo Koppelkamm wrote: > There's usually some code (general utility fn's, some legacy remappings > etc.) in common.js that could break a lot of stuff if missing. +1 on moving > optional stuff to gadgets > > Leo > On Tuesday, June 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Chad wrote: > > 2011/6/7 Ildefons Stułbia : > > > I would like to ask for deployment of new version of Gadgets > > > extension. It would be great to get rid of MediaWiki:Common.js by > > > splitting it into separate gadgets, enabled for everyone by default. > > > > Well I'm not sure getting rid of Common.js is a good idea. But moving > > optional features to Gadgets isn't a bad idea. > > > > -Chad > > > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
There's usually some code (general utility fn's, some legacy remappings etc.) in common.js that could break a lot of stuff if missing. +1 on moving optional stuff to gadgets Leo On Tuesday, June 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Chad wrote: > 2011/6/7 Ildefons Stułbia : > > I would like to ask for deployment of new version of Gadgets > > extension. It would be great to get rid of MediaWiki:Common.js by > > splitting it into separate gadgets, enabled for everyone by default. > > Well I'm not sure getting rid of Common.js is a good idea. But moving > optional features to Gadgets isn't a bad idea. > > -Chad > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
2011/6/7 Ildefons Stułbia : > I would like to ask for deployment of new version of Gadgets > extension. It would be great to get rid of MediaWiki:Common.js by > splitting it into separate gadgets, enabled for everyone by default. > Well I'm not sure getting rid of Common.js is a good idea. But moving optional features to Gadgets isn't a bad idea. -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
On 07.06.2011, 17:52 Roan wrote: > 2011/6/7 Ildefons Stułbia : >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to ask for deployment of new version of Gadgets >> extension. It would be great to get rid of MediaWiki:Common.js by >> splitting it into separate gadgets, enabled for everyone by default. >> Any registered user will be able to disable functionality he/she does >> not like. What is more, it will simplify loading additional >> dependencies - now it is done by importScript etc. and allow to take >> advantage of Resource Loader. >> > As far as I know, some version of Gadgets with ResourceLoader support > is already live, although more recent fixes may not be included. Max > or Krinkle can probably shed more light on this. Restrictions by permission, gadgets by default and API module aren't deployed yet. There is some unreviewed stuff at [1], I believe that trunk is sane enough for deployment once someone reviewed it. [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FGadgets -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]]) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis
2011/6/7 Ildefons Stułbia : > Hi all, > > I would like to ask for deployment of new version of Gadgets > extension. It would be great to get rid of MediaWiki:Common.js by > splitting it into separate gadgets, enabled for everyone by default. > Any registered user will be able to disable functionality he/she does > not like. What is more, it will simplify loading additional > dependencies - now it is done by importScript etc. and allow to take > advantage of Resource Loader. > As far as I know, some version of Gadgets with ResourceLoader support is already live, although more recent fixes may not be included. Max or Krinkle can probably shed more light on this. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l