[WISPA] service in gulfport
Does anybody provide service in Gulfport? Thanks Dan 1 Factory Shops Blvd Suite #450 Gulfport, Mississippi 39503 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/09/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
If teh cell companies can do it, anyone can. On 11/9/05, A. Huppenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its true, Internet is an option.There are lots of people in the valley here that never want it. As to billing, paying per bit won't happen except for the Cellular companys who have per minute everything in place as it is. You'd think that since telephone service was flat rate some time ago, you couldn't reverse the trend, but ah ha! If you have something like cellular for Internet you can. The demand needs to overcome the view that you are being screwed if you pay per bit. If its obvious you are being screwed something needs to be done.. Suspending that belief that's the result of compelling applications and great marketing and some peer pressure. Do you think 8 to 18 year olds really give a damn if Dad is paying per bit or flat rate.. no way. IM just has to be there, all the time, and so does picture and video transfer.. ;-) The core sales center for cellular isn't you any longer, its 8 to 18 year olds. Its a bit different for fixed wireless. Tom DeReggi wrote: Without electricity, you are blind or get heat stroke. Without gas (propaine /natural), you freeze to death. Without water, you dehydrate or get desease (no bathing). All above things considered necessities, up there with food. People could die without them. TV, Phone, Internet on the other hand are luxeries, things that people rely on, but would survive if they did without. I've never seen someone die from TV/Phone/Internet with drawal, although you never know it could happen. There is however financial benefits of having those luxeries, and there are general safety benefits of having the above. The way to tell the difference is to see how much someone will pay for something. Leave someone in the desert heat for a week, and then see how much they'll pay you for the last bottle of water. If its a matter of life or death they'd pay thousands. When someones electricity goes out in the winter, they won't even flinch at going to a hotel for a night or two at $150 a night. But then tell a consumer you have a $300 setup fee for their residential Broadband wireless service and see how quick they hang up the phone on you! If a consumer doesn't put a high value on a service, then it is NOT a necessity. NObody has ever refused to pay $150 a month for an electric bill, why are they so resistent to pay $50 a month for a residential Internet service? Because it is NOT a necessity. There is a big difference, it may however become a COMMODITY. Something that someone expects to have cheap and widely available. But a commodity is in no way a necessity. So I in know believe INternet/phone/and TV should be in the same catagory as necessities like utilities.. But I do believe that the world increases its standards as life and technology progresses. Why settle for the minimum? People WILL demand things basic communication rights, like TV/Phone/Internet. Not because its a necessity, but becaues its a luxury that no one should be without based on the high standard of living that the US life has made possible. A simple question is asked, why shouldn't every person in America have complete communications? What barrier could possibly justify not being able to accomplish it? Withholding something that is easilly deliverable is just plain evil. The technology is here today to offer universal broadband and communications, so people will not except not having it. So yes Charles I agree, in 5-10 years, people will expect to have it as a commodity, wether it is a necessity such as heat,water,electric, is irrelevant. My answer is the battle to to prove to the world it is NOT a commodity. It is a service that has value and a service worth paying for. I still remember when I paid $500 a month for my ISDN for a two man office. I believe broadband is worth as much if not more than a phone or a television service. Even if someone is poor or on welfare, they are likely to have a phone, cell phone, or TV, and they are finding a way to justify paying for it, even though it costs substantially more than Broadband for residential consumers. Why should broadband be less valuable? Because there was competition at one time, that drove the price down. Something there wasn't much of in local phone or Cable TV services. So my view is if governement want to fight for universal broadband for the rich/poor, urban/ rural, no problem, just don't devalue the service that has value. I remember when my wife was on bed rest and she had to wear a monitor. There was no problem for the world to justify (insurance approved) why a remote monitoring system, was allowed to charge several hundred dollars a day, for the monitor service. How would that person be able to do the monitoring without a phone or an internet connection? Wouldn't you argue
Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
True, they are too separate points but are related in that it will take both commodity status and total necessity before it can be treated as such. On 11/9/05, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, RickG wrote: I agree with George. Internet access is practically a necessity now, especially for businesses. It wont be much longer and broadband will be expected in order to do any kind of business. It may not be for survival of your life, but certainly it will hurt you financially. Sounds like you agree with what I said, too. However, whether it is a necessity or not does not make it a commodity item that has to be available in ALL locations like water/gas/electricity. (Sewer services do not extend into the county areas in most cases, for example.) -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, George wrote: Ok Butch. Lets take a test. Go to your office and your home and unplug all your landlines and turn off all the cell phones for 1 week and lets see what happens. OUCH! I am cold and hungry. Turning pale. My hair is falling out (prolly not related. :-) ). Any rate, If I did this, I would not be happy and I couldn't work, but I WOULD NOT die. Not sure what this test would prove... It is not really a fair test anyway. This would be the equivalent of removing the wrenches from a mechanic. These tools are directly part of what I do for a living. They are not incidental to HELP me do my job, they ARE my job (so to speak). Perhaps I am missing your point. These things (telephone and internet access) are both very important both from a cultural AND a business standpoint. I agree with you (and others) that both are a very important part of American life. Am I missing something else? Do you suggest that everyone who is an American should (by some unwritten rule) have a right to these things? Even if they can't afford it, should we come up with a way to subsidize it? I am not baiting you, I am simply not seeing the point you are trying to make. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cisco
I am seeing some errors on a client's network and I need some expertise. Here is the output from the Cisco: cdg-gate#sh interfaces FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdFE, address is 0030.8558.8060 (bia 0030.8558.8060) Internet address is 12.145.235.254/23 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:01:28 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 745000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 102000 bits/sec, 85 packets/sec 9064 packets input, 9837705 bytes Received 1 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 8003 packets output, 1130789 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0) 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 19 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Note the deferred output packets. Can anyone provide some input on what would cause this? The T1 side is not seeing any errors at all. Network is: T1 - Cisco - SonicWall - Switch The SonicWall is configured as a bridge and has been a source of good income for me (lots of time fixing it). I suspect the problem is the SonicWall, but not certain. I plan to bypass the SonicWall, but wanted some input from those more experienced with Cisco as to what I may be able to do to see what is happening on the network from the Cisco's perspective. Thanks for your help. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
Butch, Technically, none of the necessities are ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to survival If you didn't have electricity, you *could* light a candle If you didn't have heat in the winter, you *could* go chop firewood in the forest If there was no running water, you *could* bring a bucket to the nearby lake If there were no grocery stores, you *could* go shoot a rabbit -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, George wrote: Ok Butch. Lets take a test. Go to your office and your home and unplug all your landlines and turn off all the cell phones for 1 week and lets see what happens. OUCH! I am cold and hungry. Turning pale. My hair is falling out (prolly not related. :-) ). Any rate, If I did this, I would not be happy and I couldn't work, but I WOULD NOT die. Not sure what this test would prove... It is not really a fair test anyway. This would be the equivalent of removing the wrenches from a mechanic. These tools are directly part of what I do for a living. They are not incidental to HELP me do my job, they ARE my job (so to speak). Perhaps I am missing your point. These things (telephone and internet access) are both very important both from a cultural AND a business standpoint. I agree with you (and others) that both are a very important part of American life. Am I missing something else? Do you suggest that everyone who is an American should (by some unwritten rule) have a right to these things? Even if they can't afford it, should we come up with a way to subsidize it? I am not baiting you, I am simply not seeing the point you are trying to make. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
Well, as far what is necessary and what is not... Being a woman.. I'm watching and taking care of 2 networks in 2 different cities 70 miles apart... using the internet and phone.. Landline. Washing clothes, cleaning house, cooking a meal. Watching TV. Had a T-1 go out in the furthest city.. None of this is possible without electricity.. So a candle, shooting a rabbit, ugh!.. but they are 2 deer about 25 feet from my kitchen window. Guess I could shoot one of them. I maybe missing everyone's point.. but people will pay for what they get.. As long as you give them what they want.. without too much Hassel.. My 2cents worth! Jean - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, George wrote: Ok Butch. Lets take a test. Go to your office and your home and unplug all your landlines and turn off all the cell phones for 1 week and lets see what happens. OUCH! I am cold and hungry. Turning pale. My hair is falling out (prolly not related. :-) ). Any rate, If I did this, I would not be happy and I couldn't work, but I WOULD NOT die. Not sure what this test would prove... It is not really a fair test anyway. This would be the equivalent of removing the wrenches from a mechanic. These tools are directly part of what I do for a living. They are not incidental to HELP me do my job, they ARE my job (so to speak). Perhaps I am missing your point. These things (telephone and internet access) are both very important both from a cultural AND a business standpoint. I agree with you (and others) that both are a very important part of American life. Am I missing something else? Do you suggest that everyone who is an American should (by some unwritten rule) have a right to these things? Even if they can't afford it, should we come up with a way to subsidize it? I am not baiting you, I am simply not seeing the point you are trying to make. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/9/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cisco
I'm guessing here but I think that one end or the other is overloaded and there's a backup of traffic. The Cisco then holds the data for x period of time and it either gets through or it dies there But I'm certainly no expert. I'm trying to remember the kinds of things that happened back when we were still running a 56k data link to the net and had it stuffed completely full. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wispa List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:11 AM Subject: [WISPA] Cisco I am seeing some errors on a client's network and I need some expertise. Here is the output from the Cisco: cdg-gate#sh interfaces FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdFE, address is 0030.8558.8060 (bia 0030.8558.8060) Internet address is 12.145.235.254/23 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:01:28 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 745000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 102000 bits/sec, 85 packets/sec 9064 packets input, 9837705 bytes Received 1 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 8003 packets output, 1130789 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0) 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 19 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Note the deferred output packets. Can anyone provide some input on what would cause this? The T1 side is not seeing any errors at all. Network is: T1 - Cisco - SonicWall - Switch The SonicWall is configured as a bridge and has been a source of good income for me (lots of time fixing it). I suspect the problem is the SonicWall, but not certain. I plan to bypass the SonicWall, but wanted some input from those more experienced with Cisco as to what I may be able to do to see what is happening on the network from the Cisco's perspective. Thanks for your help. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot
It's not ip based (which is good when your system is down :-). This is pager based. When we get some extra funds this is the kind of gear we'll put in. http://www.nighthawksystems.com/ laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot These are great units, its what we use also at our cell sites. You can get them for $250 for 8 port, in qty 5. These are well worth it for cell sites. What I'd like to see though is a sub-$100 unit for 1 or 2 port reboot device for client CPE side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck Profito [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Try this, all our towers have this installed, it even pings for an auto reboot, $300 is cheep ! http://www.corpsys.com/store/prodinfo.asp?number=EPCRvariation=aitem=3mitem=20 Chuck Profito CV-ACCESS - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Thanks thats good to know. Since we don't run DHCP anywhere. Based on that, probably only good as a home unit, thats behind a home gateway w/ DHCP. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot We have a couple of them in our office waiting to be deployed at tower sites. The web interface is crap, it won't allow you to put in a subnet and default gateway. You have to set it to get a DHCP address to get those key routing numbers inserted. I like the size and the price is right, I guess for $80 you shouldn't expect many management features. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=3 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Which model APC has Ethernet reboot for $80? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: G.Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Realay control or AC? Cause APC has a cheap ups that's has a Ethernet port for remote reboot ... $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Hi all. I'm looking for an IP based remote reboot or relay controller. It must be small, controlled via http or telnet, and be able to turn a relay off or on remotely Oh, before I forget, cheap, too! Any ideas? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Ray Jean wrote: electricity.. So a candle, shooting a rabbit, ugh!.. but they are 2 deer about 25 feet from my kitchen window. Guess I could shoot one of them. :-) I maybe missing everyone's point.. but people will pay for what they get.. As long as you give them what they want.. without too much Hassel.. I can't speak for anyone else, but MY point is this: Internet access is becoming more and more necessary. People are more and more expecting things on the internet to be free (think of peer to peer apps and how people talk about stealing music and movies). They, also, because of the RBOCs, are beginning to think that anyone who charges a REASONABLE fee for internet service is gouging. This mentality is one that is not likely to be stopped. I am simply doing what I can to impress on others in the same line of work I am in, to think about what is happening and not to simply accept this as fate (or whatever you want to call it). I know that if I were falling from a great height without a parachute, I would at least flap my arms. May not help, but it is all I can do. My point in 2 words: KEEP FLAPPING. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
The real issue on this is natural vs. un-natural monopolies. I can't find the article I read some years ago but here's the gist of it. There's only so much room for things like water lines, gas lines, electric lines, telephone lines, streets, garbage cans etc. Those PHYSICAL structures lend themselves nicely to monopolies. We really don't need 15 different electric lines running past our houses (though the case could be made as to why that may be a good thing). Internet access, however, is a SERVICE not a thing. There are multiple ways in which multiple providers can access customers (and vise verse) over EXISTING or unobtrusive distribution mechanisms. To monopolize internet access would be like trying to monopolize movie theaters, hospitals, auto parts stores etc. Here's a pretty good article I think (though I only took the time to scan it): https://www.mises.org/journals/rae/pdf/rae9_2_3.pdf And for anyone that wants to dig deeper into it: http://www.google.com/search?q=natural+vs.+unnatural+monopolyhl=enlr= laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Charles Wu wrote: Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any different? Charles, I don't often find myself in total disagreement with your statements. I am on this point, however. Well, maybe not total, but close. The RBOCs and cableops are working hard to commoditize the internet connection. There are efforts on the part of many municipalities to do the same. Your city is doing this now. I am not sure there is anything we can do to sway the tide that seems to be driven partly by the RBOCs and others, but I don't agree that internet access fits the same class of service as the utilities you mentioned. For example, electricity, gas and water are items that are needed for basic survival in the city. Granted, these services have not always been available, but it is expected by all Americans that if they move somewhere, they can get those services. Most people would not survive without these services. Tell me how internet access fits that description. Internet access is something that is NOT required for basic necessities. It IS something that most businesses can't do without. With that in mind, why do you compare it to these other utilities? I will do ok if the internet access business dries up. I provide other services that don't require me to even sell internet access. These services work over any high speed connection. One business feeds the other. NOW, to answer your original question: I think the question is framed wrong. I don't see us EVER getting to the point where we, the network operator, will be paying for transports with origination fees or termination fees, as the telcos are doing now. Perhaps I missed the point of this conversation, as I have not read all the posts, but I just don't believe it will ever get there. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Need some help/recommendations
If I am reading the spec sheet correctly, for an 80' Rohn 45G tower, your guy anchors will be out 64' and your guy points on the tower will be at 35' high (73' guy wire) and 65' high (91' guy wire). I don't know if moving the guy points (both on the tower and at your guy anchors) will reduce your wind loading capability. Maybe someone else with more tower exp. can help out here. All of the towers that we have installed have been with a flat base plate. Then again all of our towers (that we have built) have been 25G, except for one that was installed before I got here. And I think they used a crane. Are you going to put a top section? If you do put a top section, keep in mind that if you need/want to go taller in the future, you have to take gear down if it is at the top. We learned that the hard way. :-( Don't forget your wire nuts. -Richard M. - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Need some help/recommendations Hello all, I'm getting ready to put up my first tower (finally found a place where there weren't any existing towers available) and would like to get some comments from others about whether I am doing the right things. My goal is to mount a 2' PacWireless 5Ghz dish, a 3' PacWireless 5Ghz dish and 13db PacWireless H-pol Omni antenna at the 80 foot level. The tower site used to have a very large radio tower on it, so the base and guy points are all still in place. The base has a single pin in the center, and the guy anchors are 90' out at 120 degree intervals. My intention is to put up a Rohn 45 equivalent tower - 8 sections and a 5' base section for a total of 85' of tower; two sets of guy points - one at 40' and another at 80'. The antennas will mount right above the guy wires. Here are some of the questions that I have: 1) Should I use a flat base or an angled base (single pin) There is already a pin in place from the old tower, but I don't know whether it makes sense to use it or just put a flat base with new anchors in. 2) Does it make sense to put a hinged base at the bottom, assemble the tower and raise it with a winch -- or should I use a gin pole to put it together? 3) I have not ordered my tower pieces yet. New costs look to be about $3200 for 8 10' sections, base, 2 guy brackets, 1000' of guy wire, guy wire ground kit and 6 turnbuckles. Am I missing anything on this list? Does anyone have this sort of thing laying around that they would like to sell? I'm just looking for some recommendations as to whether this is the right price range. Thanks for your assistance guys! Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
Good point George. I did not consider emergency communication needs, in my thought. But your point does strengthen, my opinion that broadband should not be undervalued. If your ship was about to sink, and the coast guard needed to be immediately called, or INternet instant message sent, how much would you pay to be able to make that phone call, or communication, in a time of URGENT need, life or death situation? Is it appropriate to have communication systems that are NOT up to PAR, to handle these immediate emergency needs that consumers could have? City providing a network to a million people for $10 a subscriber or for free, in an open access fassion, is not likely to deliver the reliabilty to meet the need of emergency response. Thats one of the reasons Public safety organizations like POLICE have been allocated Licensed Spectrum worth billions given to them. Reliabilty and needs to be engineered, with realistic ideals. For tehcnologies capabilty and support.The other question that applies is, how many options of communication are needed to fullfill that need? There is a strong case for redundancy, such as MAC Dearman, has recently proven. and are those option necessary for the individual home? There is no doubt that broadband could save lives, as you just corrected me on the topic. But what did the people do 20 years ago, when broadband did not exist? Or for that matter when phones did not exist? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge Tom DeReggi wrote: TV, Phone, Internet on the other hand are luxeries, things that people rely on, but would survive if they did without. I've never seen someone die from TV/Phone/Internet with drawal, although you never know it could happen. Tom. You should rethink what you just said about you've never heard of anyone dying because of no phone or internet. The phone absolutely has saved lives. And people surely died that didn't get to one fast enough or could find one. The internet on the other hand, I don't have to remind you that Mac and those hero wisp workers who bailed out people all across the gulf with voip and net sure proved that the net is more than a luxury. As for tv, ok. Sincerely George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Need some help/recommendations
These specs are for 70mph basic wind speed (no ice). What do you need it to be rated for? -Richard M. If I am reading the spec sheet correctly, for an 80' Rohn 45G tower, your guy anchors will be out 64' and your guy points on the tower will be at 35' high (73' guy wire) and 65' high (91' guy wire). I don't know if moving the guy points (both on the tower and at your guy anchors) will reduce your wind loading capability. Maybe someone else with more tower exp. can help out here. All of the towers that we have installed have been with a flat base plate. Then again all of our towers (that we have built) have been 25G, except for one that was installed before I got here. And I think they used a crane. Are you going to put a top section? If you do put a top section, keep in mind that if you need/want to go taller in the future, you have to take gear down if it is at the top. We learned that the hard way. :-( Don't forget your wire nuts. -Richard M. - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Need some help/recommendations Hello all, I'm getting ready to put up my first tower (finally found a place where there weren't any existing towers available) and would like to get some comments from others about whether I am doing the right things. My goal is to mount a 2' PacWireless 5Ghz dish, a 3' PacWireless 5Ghz dish and 13db PacWireless H-pol Omni antenna at the 80 foot level. The tower site used to have a very large radio tower on it, so the base and guy points are all still in place. The base has a single pin in the center, and the guy anchors are 90' out at 120 degree intervals. My intention is to put up a Rohn 45 equivalent tower - 8 sections and a 5' base section for a total of 85' of tower; two sets of guy points - one at 40' and another at 80'. The antennas will mount right above the guy wires. Here are some of the questions that I have: 1) Should I use a flat base or an angled base (single pin) There is already a pin in place from the old tower, but I don't know whether it makes sense to use it or just put a flat base with new anchors in. 2) Does it make sense to put a hinged base at the bottom, assemble the tower and raise it with a winch -- or should I use a gin pole to put it together? 3) I have not ordered my tower pieces yet. New costs look to be about $3200 for 8 10' sections, base, 2 guy brackets, 1000' of guy wire, guy wire ground kit and 6 turnbuckles. Am I missing anything on this list? Does anyone have this sort of thing laying around that they would like to sell? I'm just looking for some recommendations as to whether this is the right price range. Thanks for your assistance guys! Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot
A bit pricey for $695. Internal power supply, 48V, 1A. 4 Watts max. Unclear on load capabilty. 48Vx1amp=48W. Not to useful, when it integrates power and ethernet, if it doesn't support passing VLAN/large packets. The added AC reboot recepticle was a good idea. Without it, it prevents the Reboot device to be used to reboot a PC based router. What good is it to save on reboot device cost, if two are needed, one for DC one for AC? So it solves that problem. However, for a unit to support end user CPEs, bothAC and DC support really not needed. ONe or the other will work. The only requirement is for it to cost under a $100! It would be nice if the reboot device supported two devices. That would then allow rebooting both home gateway and CPE radio. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Blair I think this will do what you need tell them Tony front Demarc sent you: http://www.remotedatacom.com/pages/KABU.html Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-244-9068 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Well, I guess there is no reasonably priced unit out there that will do what I need and fit in the space allowed. The comments on the list have shown me that there may be a demand for a unit like this. I have decided to build my own. I have also decided to make it available to others who might need it. As part of this process, I am posting the planned specs and I am asking for additional ideas for features. Specs: Hardware 10baseT ethernet port for communication. 1-4 pair of RJ-45 pass thru jacks with lines 4 and 5 switched. Each pass thru jack pair is independently switched Relay(s) rated for up to 48VDC at 3A Power available monitor for switched jack(s) Unit powered via 5-12VDC Software Setup and controlled via web browser or telnet Static IP with subnet and gateway Programmable ping monitor for each relay Selectable 'keep alive' / 'I am here' ping Adjustable power off delay Adjustable power off time Several things I am undecided about adding are: Email notification of ping failure Email notification of power available status change Programmable, repeatable by time and date switching (this requires a real time clock and/or automatic synchronization with a time server and might increase the costs) One thing I will not add: Switching 110/220AC. This would add many requirements for testing and considerable legal liability. The price should be under $100 each. Questions? Comments? Interest? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot
Marlon and all, I just wanted to pass on the below E-mail that we received regarding the Nighthawk NH100, and special limited time pricing. This may be a good time for you to spend less on Margaritas and a little on the remote reboot;0 I don't often get to add much value to this list, but hopefully I can this time. Best Regards, Joel Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:08:46 EST Subject: NIGHTHAWK PILOT PROGRAM OFFER Nighthawk Systems, Inc is offering a pilot program with the CEO 700 and CEO 700H's. Customers will receive a minimum of 10 units to use for a pilot program not to exceed 45 days. After 30 - 45 days the customer(s) can decide to purchase the units or send them back to Nighthawk Systems, Inc. In most cases we can ship units within 7 days. We are also offering the NH100's at $185/unit for those customers that take delivery prior to December 31st. Our normal price on the NH100's is $225 - $325. NH100's are great applications for rebooting servers and routers in any data or telecom room along with rebooting SCADA systems. The EA1 which is used for alerting Volunteer Fire Houses and Fire Fighters is also being discounted. Check out all of our products @: www.nighthawksystems.com. Best regards, Jeff Bell Vice President Nighthawk Systems, Inc. 8200 East Pacific Place Ste 204 Denver, CO 80231 720-470-4090 Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:36:45 -0800 From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response It's not ip based (which is good when your system is down :-). This is pager based. When we get some extra funds this is the kind of gear we'll put in. http://www.nighthawksystems.com/ laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Need some help/recommendations
You need guys every 30 feet. Add a nine foot top and ten to twelve feet of heavy walled mast to mount your omni to. Leave the backhaul dishes on the tower proper. Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Hello all, I'm getting ready to put up my first tower (finally found a place where there weren't any existing towers available) and would like to get some comments from others about whether I am doing the right things. My goal is to mount a 2' PacWireless 5Ghz dish, a 3' PacWireless 5Ghz dish and 13db PacWireless H-pol Omni antenna at the 80 foot level. The tower site used to have a very large radio tower on it, so the base and guy points are all still in place. The base has a single pin in the center, and the guy anchors are 90' out at 120 degree intervals. My intention is to put up a Rohn 45 equivalent tower - 8 sections and a 5' base section for a total of 85' of tower; two sets of guy points - one at 40' and another at 80'. The antennas will mount right above the guy wires. Here are some of the questions that I have: 1) Should I use a flat base or an angled base (single pin) There is already a pin in place from the old tower, but I don't know whether it makes sense to use it or just put a flat base with new anchors in. 2) Does it make sense to put a hinged base at the bottom, assemble the tower and raise it with a winch -- or should I use a gin pole to put it together? 3) I have not ordered my tower pieces yet. New costs look to be about $3200 for 8 10' sections, base, 2 guy brackets, 1000' of guy wire, guy wire ground kit and 6 turnbuckles. Am I missing anything on this list? Does anyone have this sort of thing laying around that they would like to sell? I'm just looking for some recommendations as to whether this is the right price range. Thanks for your assistance guys! Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Its almost Friday...
For your Thursday afternoon listening pleasure, our latest obnoxious radio commercial. Enjoy! http://www.thelar.com/mp3/vista.wav Matt Larsen -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot
The nighthawk units are NICE units, and can easily be justified cost wise for MTU unattended sites, but their are still two deficiencies. 1) They are MANUAL reboot devices. I can't automate the process to detect failure and auto-reboot easilly. Well actually I could partially, if I tried hard enough, but an auto-ping, that actually tests THROUGH the CPE operating on the CPE side is a better method. The purpose is not only to prevent truck rolls, but optimally to reduce phone tech support resources as well, not to mention repair time. Auto-ping can get the detection/repair time down to 1 minute, often hiding from the customer that a down time insodent ever occurred in the first place. 2) Nighthawks need to be pre-programed for the user's area (I think zip code, but much narrower than area code) before it ships, and it can not be changed after the fact. My network covers MANY zip codes in the three states I serve. That means stocking an awful lot of reboot devices that you may never need, or ordering them individually which could mean a seperate trip might be needed to install the reboot device, in order to not delay scheduled installtions. If I could stock 10 or so, and change the usage area of the device myself on the fly, well it would strongly increase its value as a product. $185, is justifyable for Unattended MTU building closets that serve multiple clients, or really far away sites, but its still a little high for wide scale usage for every CPE location. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Joel White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:49 PM Subject: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot Marlon and all, I just wanted to pass on the below E-mail that we received regarding the Nighthawk NH100, and special limited time pricing. This may be a good time for you to spend less on Margaritas and a little on the remote reboot;0 I don't often get to add much value to this list, but hopefully I can this time. Best Regards, Joel Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:08:46 EST Subject: NIGHTHAWK PILOT PROGRAM OFFER Nighthawk Systems, Inc is offering a pilot program with the CEO 700 and CEO 700H's. Customers will receive a minimum of 10 units to use for a pilot program not to exceed 45 days. After 30 - 45 days the customer(s) can decide to purchase the units or send them back to Nighthawk Systems, Inc. In most cases we can ship units within 7 days. We are also offering the NH100's at $185/unit for those customers that take delivery prior to December 31st. Our normal price on the NH100's is $225 - $325. NH100's are great applications for rebooting servers and routers in any data or telecom room along with rebooting SCADA systems. The EA1 which is used for alerting Volunteer Fire Houses and Fire Fighters is also being discounted. Check out all of our products @: www.nighthawksystems.com. Best regards, Jeff Bell Vice President Nighthawk Systems, Inc. 8200 East Pacific Place Ste 204 Denver, CO 80231 720-470-4090 Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:36:45 -0800 From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response It's not ip based (which is good when your system is down :-). This is pager based. When we get some extra funds this is the kind of gear we'll put in. http://www.nighthawksystems.com/ laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/9/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Cisco
Butch - Double check that the sonicwall is running 100-full, hard-code it if you can. You should never see deferred transmissions on a 100-full connection. Also check your ethernet cables. You also might try putting a switch in between the Cisco and Sonicwall if you can't hard-code it. Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800) 363-0989 Direct: (260) 827-2486 Fax:(260) 824-9624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:12 PM To: Wispa List Subject: [WISPA] Cisco I am seeing some errors on a client's network and I need some expertise. Here is the output from the Cisco: cdg-gate#sh interfaces FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdFE, address is 0030.8558.8060 (bia 0030.8558.8060) Internet address is 12.145.235.254/23 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:01:28 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 745000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 102000 bits/sec, 85 packets/sec 9064 packets input, 9837705 bytes Received 1 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 8003 packets output, 1130789 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0) 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 19 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Note the deferred output packets. Can anyone provide some input on what would cause this? The T1 side is not seeing any errors at all. Network is: T1 - Cisco - SonicWall - Switch The SonicWall is configured as a bridge and has been a source of good income for me (lots of time fixing it). I suspect the problem is the SonicWall, but not certain. I plan to bypass the SonicWall, but wanted some input from those more experienced with Cisco as to what I may be able to do to see what is happening on the network from the Cisco's perspective. Thanks for your help. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] service in Ft. Lauderdale
Prospect called me today looking for a Wireless T1 to his location in Fort Lauderdale. If you can hit zip code 4 (Oakland Park, FL) please contact me. Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com ISP Expo in Tampa, Dec. 9 10 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Broadband Wireless Returns to Proven Direct Sales Model for U.S. Market
This mean cheaper products? :) Shayne Rose wrote: Trango Broadband Wireless Returns to Proven Direct Sales Model for U.S. Market Decision reflects company objective of getting closer to end customers in their home market, and availability of increased resources at its U.S. headquarters SAN DIEGO, CA November 9, 2005 Trango Broadband Wireless, an industry leader in fixed-wireless broadband connectivity solutions, announced today that it is transitioning back to direct sales for the U.S. market. "Returning to a direct sales model for the U.S. is clearly the right choice for the company," said Colin Boyd, vice president of sales for Trango Broadband Wireless. "One of the great things about Trango is that we are always open to better ways of doing business. For the U.S. market there are a myriad of distribution options available to us, and we have tested several. But it became crystal clear to us at the recent ISP-CON show, where Trango gathered for a day with many of its customers, that one thing they need from their manufacturing partners is close coordination on issues ranging from product and feature requirements, to joint marketing programs, to even lobbying initiatives to ensure that the voice of the fixed broadband wireless industry is heard by government and consumers. We have a great productreal broadband accessand working closely together is the best thing for Trango and our U.S. customers." Todd Easterling, vice president of marketing said, "This decision is in lockstep with our new branding strategy whereby we are going to basically scream from the rooftops what differentiates Trango from our competitors. In the next couple months you will see a new face on the company. Frankly, Trango, to a great extent, has been the quiet giant in the wireless industrya group of modest and talented engineers going about the introduction of extremely innovative products, but rarely communicating the advantages of these products as well as we should. The bottom line is that Trango is virtually the only end-to-end fixed broadband wireless manufacturer in the industry. Not many customers know that we actually own a world-class factory and design and build every radio we sellwhether it is point-to-point backhauls or point-to-multipoint mass subscriber networks," added Easterling. "For our U.S. customers, this is a huge advantage. You can't get closer to the product than buying directly from the factory that tailors that product exactly to your needs. And likewise, Trango can't get closer to the U.S. market than selling directly to the people who install and use our technology every day." Trango Broadband Wireless has also added to its sales and marketing team recently, which has increased its capability to serve its home market directly. The company hired a new vice president of marketing, vice president of sales, CFO, director of finance, and doubled its engineering department. It is also adding to its applications engineering, quality control and product management departments. "We are more than capable of not only returning to the direct sales model in the U.S., but also building on the programs that previously played a critical role in the company's high growth," Mr. Boyd said. "The products practically sell themselves. That's not the challenge. The goal of this initiative is to work hand-in-hand with the U.S. customers who actually deploy wireless networks in the U.S., right in our backyard the boots on the ground' input that drives winning products and winning sales programs." Mr. Boyd added that this change only impacts U.S. distribution, where Trango's headquarters and regional sales people are based. Shayne Rose National Sales Manager Trango Broadband a division of Trango Systems, Inc. 15070 Ave of Science, Suite 200 San Diego, CA 92128 Office: 858-653-3900x272 Fax: 858-683-2124 e-Fax Mobile: 858-335-2245 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = NOTE: This email may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. = No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] short link
Hi, I need to make a 2.3 km link from a data center to a tower. Can anyone recommend Free Space Optics for this job? The Lightpointe Strata sounds like it might work with a claimed range of 5 km, but I wonder how overblown this marketing pitch is: The FlightStrata 100 XA (Extended Availability) is a breakthrough in outdoor wireless point-to-point solutions. Based on LightPointe's patented DualPathT architecture, the FlightStrata 100 XA blends a high bandwidth optical link and an unlicensed radio frequency (RF) backup with intelligent seamless switching to provide Fast Ethernet throughput and 99.999% uptime in all weather conditions at distances up to 5 km 99.999% uptime in heavy fog? How far? Certainly not 2.3 km .. ? Otherwise, why can't I find any 24 GHz equipment that does more than 200 Mbps? This article (http://infoworld.com/article/03/06/16/HNhispeed_1.html) says that Dragonwave was dreaming up a Gbps radio back in '03 .. where is it? Also, any links to info on leasing 18, 23, and 26 GHz on a link-by-link basis? Thanks,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Check out these towers!
Just came across these. They look pretty neat. http://www.isotruss.com/wifi-towers.htm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14765077 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8672279?hilite=isotruss If I get a chance I am going to see what a 90 footer costs. If anyone else calls before I do, post it here so we can all see the price on these bad boys. Brian Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Hello all, I'm getting ready to put up my first tower (finally found a place where there weren't any existing towers available) and would like to get some comments from others about whether I am doing the right things. My goal is to mount a 2' PacWireless 5Ghz dish, a 3' PacWireless 5Ghz dish and 13db PacWireless H-pol Omni antenna at the 80 foot level. The tower site used to have a very large radio tower on it, so the base and guy points are all still in place. The base has a single pin in the center, and the guy anchors are 90' out at 120 degree intervals. My intention is to put up a Rohn 45 equivalent tower - 8 sections and a 5' base section for a total of 85' of tower; two sets of guy points - one at 40' and another at 80'. The antennas will mount right above the guy wires. Here are some of the questions that I have: 1) Should I use a flat base or an angled base (single pin) There is already a pin in place from the old tower, but I don't know whether it makes sense to use it or just put a flat base with new anchors in. 2) Does it make sense to put a hinged base at the bottom, assemble the tower and raise it with a winch -- or should I use a gin pole to put it together? 3) I have not ordered my tower pieces yet. New costs look to be about $3200 for 8 10' sections, base, 2 guy brackets, 1000' of guy wire, guy wire ground kit and 6 turnbuckles. Am I missing anything on this list? Does anyone have this sort of thing laying around that they would like to sell? I'm just looking for some recommendations as to whether this is the right price range. Thanks for your assistance guys! Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
