Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?
Yes, for PPPoE and Hotspot. You also have to merge in the dictionary. Lonnie On 2/15/06, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The tag was named, descriptively, for the first application it was intended for. The thing about radius attributes, is they are just a number, and can be used for any purpose, even Hotspot bandwidth control, which the Hotspot Server recognizes and uses. So I can just put VNC-PPPoE-CBQ-RX and VNC-PPPoE-CBQ-TX in my RADIUS Reply packet and it'll do what I expect? Neat! David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ?
So, No, it won't actually work if you're not using PPPOE, but just radius authentication and access control... It only works for PPPOE and hotspot? North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RADIUS + StarOS + bandwidth ? Yes, for PPPoE and Hotspot. You also have to merge in the dictionary. Lonnie On 2/15/06, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The tag was named, descriptively, for the first application it was intended for. The thing about radius attributes, is they are just a number, and can be used for any purpose, even Hotspot bandwidth control, which the Hotspot Server recognizes and uses. So I can just put VNC-PPPoE-CBQ-RX and VNC-PPPoE-CBQ-TX in my RADIUS Reply packet and it'll do what I expect? Neat! David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motel setup
G isn't reliable because it is set to back off and not interfere with any other type of 2.4 ghz equipment. This makes G have less throughput in an outdoor environment than B, even though the data rate is dramatically higher. If you could set the threshold in G, or just completely kill that behavior, G would be awesome. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motel setup Nope. G is way more expensive and almost no one is shipping commercial grade wisp gear. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:15 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motel setup B is more reliable than G, otherwise wisps would be using G but instead they are using B. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motel setup I notice this kit is 11b only. Is there a specific reason for using 11b for hotspots instead of 11g? I'm guessing it's because of the greater output power and receive sensitivity of 11b but isn't OFDM better for bouncing around the walls of a Hotel? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: 15 February 2006 06:36 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motel setup Get about 3 of these things and you should be fine. http://tranzeo.com/uploaded_images/117_10_5_TR-600f%20Series.pdf Put ceiling omni's on them I would put one in the center of the building, and the remaining two towards the ends of the building. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Motel setup What's the currently recommended gear / setup for a motel? Total of 113 rooms spread over 2 floors. Going to be a 2-phrase project where the first group of rooms will have both Ethernet and Wi-Fi accessibility, with the remaining to have WiFi only. No idea yet on the layout of which rooms will be Ethernet / WiFi, but that's not really important. Owner is running the Ethernet cabling himself - just looking to contract out the Wireless end of it. I don't know much more than this at the moment. Not sure on square footage or anything - that is to come soon, but thought I'd get some ideas on equipment to start and then go from there. Thanks a bunch! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.7/259 - Release Date: 2/13/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.8/260 - Release Date: 14/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.8/260 - Release Date: 14/02/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] bandwidth
AFAIK, they are not shipping to US only international cause the FCC has not defined the DFS mechanism yet... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:17 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Motorola 5.4Ghz gear. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Are any vendors shipping products which are FCC certified for these frequencies? Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bandwidth Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum (5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the United States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing 325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band. As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the 5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a February 2005 FCC order http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf. From Joanie Wexler... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact
Canadian version of your FCC. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what's crtc? marlon - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] CRTC Contact I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bandwidth
Trango makes a backhaul unit in the 5.4 space, I wonder if they are now legal. Any Trango rep here? Brad Larson wrote: Alvarion. Brad Brad Larson Northeast Regional Manager Alvarion 965 Rakestraw Rd Montoursville, PA 17754 Phone 570-433-4608 Cell 570-419-0029 Fax 570-433-4603 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Are any vendors shipping products which are FCC certified for these frequencies? Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bandwidth Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum (5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the United States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing 325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band. As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the 5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a February 2005 FCC order http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf. From Joanie Wexler... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CB3 to Tranzeo 6000
Yes on the Deluxe. Yes on the firmware. - Original Message - From: Anthony Morin To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CB3 to Tranzeo 6000 Is it a CB3 deluxe? I couldn't get the older CB3's to connect either. Does the 6000 have the latest firmware?Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a pointer with this? I can't get it to connect correctly as just a bridge - I've had to enable WDS on the 6000. But, when I enable WDS, all other clients on the 6000 drop and can't get access, even though they are shown as associated.CB3 is about 150yards away and works great, but it's the only thing working.Any help on this would be GREATLY appreciated-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Velocity Wireless Anthony Morin 208 East Elm Street Ambia, IN 47917 (765) 869-5173 What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] contract
I have a multi-location, multi meg prospective client that needs a contract on the fly. Anybody have one they would let me take a peek at/borrow from? Chris Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] bandwidth
Buy from someone that imports 5.4 moto from overseas and resells. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:42 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth AFAIK, they are not shipping to US only international cause the FCC has not defined the DFS mechanism yet... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:17 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Motorola 5.4Ghz gear. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Are any vendors shipping products which are FCC certified for these frequencies? Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bandwidth Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum (5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the United States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing 325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band. As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the 5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a February 2005 FCC order http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf. From Joanie Wexler... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] omni tower separation
Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, Ive done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering what 6 would do. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] bandwidth
You know that gear doesn't comply with fcc... and they are also selling it overpriced ... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Buy from someone that imports 5.4 moto from overseas and resells. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:42 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth AFAIK, they are not shipping to US only international cause the FCC has not defined the DFS mechanism yet... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:17 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Motorola 5.4Ghz gear. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Are any vendors shipping products which are FCC certified for these frequencies? Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bandwidth Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum (5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the United States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing 325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band. As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the 5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a February 2005 FCC order http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf. From Joanie Wexler... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/262 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact
A. Look through the archives for Cindy Lee. I might still have her contact info somewhere if you can't find it in the archives. marlon - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact Canadian version of your FCC. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what's crtc? marlon - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] CRTC Contact I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation
I've always been taught that 18" is the minimum. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] omni tower separation Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, Ive done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering what 6 would do. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bandwidth
Heya Brad, Let me be sure I heard that right. The band is ready and you guys are shipping 5.4 gig gear into the USA? marlon - Original Message - From: Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Alvarion. Brad Brad Larson Northeast Regional Manager Alvarion 965 Rakestraw Rd Montoursville, PA 17754 Phone 570-433-4608 Cell 570-419-0029 Fax 570-433-4603 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Are any vendors shipping products which are FCC certified for these frequencies? Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bandwidth Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum (5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the United States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing 325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band. As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the 5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a February 2005 FCC order http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf. From Joanie Wexler... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot
What is the longest 2.4ghz shot using Mikrotik and SR2s or CM9s does anyone have working ? Curious JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot
Client or AP, or both? I have 2 MT/CM9 client to Deliberant 1300 AP at 9.3 to 9.5 miles. Rock solid. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:24:25 -0600 Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot What is the longest 2.4ghz shot using Mikrotik and SR2s or CM9s does anyone have working ? Curious JohnnyO --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot
Working for another company at the time I thought we were hot when we got a 32 mile link going using cm9 802.11 karlnet software stuff this was out in Nebraska going from one center silo to two end silos all PTP, then came the 50+ link down in the caribbean still works great to this day goes from Puerto Rico to the Virgin Islands mountain top to mountain top.Rob MaierJohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What is the longest 2.4ghz shot using Mikrotik and SR2s or CM9s does anyone have working ? Curious JohnnyO-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot
Robert, care to share about this link in PR, we are a local wisp and we havnt heard of it. Were in PR are you guys shooting from ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of robert maier Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot Working for another company at the time I thought we were hot when we got a 32 mile link going using cm9 802.11 karlnet software stuff this was out in Nebraska going from one center silo to two end silos all PTP, then came the 50+ link down in the caribbean still works great to this day goes from Puerto Rico to the Virgin Islands mountain top to mountain top. Rob Maier JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the longest 2.4ghz shot using Mikrotik and SR2s or CM9s does anyone have working ? Curious JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot
Just a little info it all started for the the government going from building to building, this was their primary link, they were not using it for redundancy. After a trial period, they decided they wanted to go to the V.I and so to the top of the mountain we went El junke and to the top of recovery hill in the VI We had great connectivity for their internet and such but 11mbs did not quite have the bandwidth they needed for video. The 11mbs was left in place and Proxim was used as a primary for higher band width and I believe we hired a local down in Puerto Rico to later provide a DS3 pipe which was later also sent on to not only St. Croix but to St thomas. Have installed Aeronet many many times in ptp situations and I have to tell you I like the product, I believe I have a 15 mile aeronet link in the resume. It all comes down to proper antenna ,cable and a good clean path and in P.R. you bet ter have some good weather proofing. If I didn't believe in the stuff wireless ISP's do or best yet try. I'd be in the cable business and so far I've been around over ten years and still find myself around radiosand always have had a job."G.Villarini" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Robert, care to share about this link in PR, we are a local wisp and we havnt heard of it . W ere in PR are you guys shooting from ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of robert maierSent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:57 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot Working for another company at the time I thought we were hot when we got a 32 mile link going using cm9 802.11 karlnet sof tware stuff this was out in Nebraska going from one center silo to two end silos all PTP, then came the 50+ link down in the caribbean still works great to this day goes from Puerto Rico to the Virgin Islands mountain top to mountain top.Rob MaierJohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What is the longest 2.4ghz shot using Mikrotik and SR2s or CM9s does anyone have working ? Curious JohnnyO-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Yahoo! MailUse Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars.-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Tom, I was just searching back through my gmail archives for 'customer acquisition' and found your message. I was impressed by your insight then, and it's striking to read it again. Would you mind taking a look at business plan and projections? Thanks again for all your excellent advice ..On 8/25/05, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. You must do the sales. Trust that to someone else, and you will fail. It means that you may not be able to do the fun stuff like you thought you'd be doing, but its the reality of a successful business. UNtil you set the stage of how the sales process will go, and set the example of success in selling, it'll be hard to find a sales guy willing to work on commission or that will be worth a darn. I found that you can't run a WISP with only three people, although many have proven me wrong. It takes one to sell. It takes one to install. It takes one tech in the office to assist the installer with testing and router provisioning. ( a tech can't get to APsand routers, when thelink isn't up yet. A lot of things will come up, like which sector do you connect to when its near both of them? You don't always know how to configure it until you are onsite. Then whathappens whem the installer needs help, such as someone to hold the ladderfor a steep pitched roof? Then whose gonna answer the phone when the insude tech goes onsite to help the installer? You need that 4th person! Then whose gonna do you book keeping? You learn that why should you be doing it, when you time is best spent selling? You surely aren't going to have the techs do your book keeping? When you start to go after the bigger clients, if there isn't someone to answer the phone for every sales request and tech support issue, they get scared and go with the higher staffed more professional competitor. At first you start by using your cell phone. But then you learn that you can never get a darn thing done when you are answering your cell phone the whole day. So you stop answering it while on sales meetings. Then the callers have outages, amnd have already signed up with the competitor by the time tyou call them back hours later because they thought you went out of business. So before you know it you need 6 people minimum. Then you look at your payroll that just jumped to $20,000 a month. Then it takes you a few months to get things togeather like marketing material. Then everyone is waiting on you. Then you have a burn rate. You learn that the $20,000 capitol that you had wasn't going to last the first month. Then you start getting subscribers, but theirs no money left to buy radios. By the time you get the radios three weeks later, the customers got tired of waiting and went with the competitor,so your staff has nothing to do, and you just burn through another $20,000 the next month. Etc. Thats the point most businesses fail. So my advise is... Start out with two people. And use your cell phone for all correspondance.Avoid every technical detail thatthe tech mentality is enticing you to get involved with, that will just kill your time, no matter how much its tempting you. Go sell today. Go like that as long as you can, until you have no other choice but to hire.Then hire ALL the people you need and play to win.IF you under hire, you will just spin your wheel's never getting anything done but managing everyone, and sales stop, but salaries don't, and you go out of business. Outsource every technical detail upfront, EXPECIALLY MAIL. Your only job can be sales and management. What will determine wether you will succeed is wether you can keep your time allocated more towards sales than management. Management duties will tend to monopolize your time, because they have to be done, and you will continue to loose money until you go out of business. You will learn there are fourthings you can't outsource in your early years, sales, management,managing your finances (accounting), and lending you money.Take every opportunity t oearn an extra couple buck on an install like hourly wages to set upo there PCs, and don't get suckered into giving thataway for free, you will need every one of thosse dollars to carry you on. Ifyou leave management to someone else,they will turn your employees against you, and they will make the wrong decissions, andyou will have to pick up the peices later, hopefully before its not to late. If you don'tdo your finances, you won't know you are in trouble financially until its to late, you need to be one with your budget and daily cash intake goals, and there is no way you can do it unless you are intimate with your accounting on a daily basis. Youmust do the sales because it the #1 most important thing in your business, and at all costs, it is the one thing that MUST be done for you t osurvice, you just can't take a change that it wont be done right. You mustmake it your business to make sure its done. and lastly finances, no one
Re: [WISPA] bandwidth
I wanted to confirm... 5.4-5.7GHz is running at the same specifications as 5.3Ghz, right? Meaning 30db EIRP max, and Point to point rule does not apply? Only difference, they require ATC and DFS? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] bandwidth Heya Brad, Let me be sure I heard that right. The band is ready and you guys are shipping 5.4 gig gear into the USA? marlon - Original Message - From: Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Alvarion. Brad Brad Larson Northeast Regional Manager Alvarion 965 Rakestraw Rd Montoursville, PA 17754 Phone 570-433-4608 Cell 570-419-0029 Fax 570-433-4603 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] bandwidth Are any vendors shipping products which are FCC certified for these frequencies? Thanks Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bandwidth Last month, the FCC officially opened up the use of the middle band of the Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (UNII) spectrum (5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz) to 54Mbps 802.11a Wi-Fi networks in the United States. The band adds another 255 MHz and 11 channels to the existing 325 MHz and 13 channels available for Wi-Fi in this band. As of January 20, any products that apply for certification in the 5.470 GHz to 5.725 GHz band or in the lower end of the UNII band at 5.25 GHz to 5.35 GHz, were required to support dynamic frequency selection (DFS) and transmit power control (TPC) to minimize interference, per a February 2005 FCC order http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-43A1.pdf. From Joanie Wexler... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 02/15/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This mail passed through mail.alvarion.com This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact
ok will look around You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: A. Look through the archives for Cindy Lee. I might still have her contact info somewhere if you can't find it in the archives. marlon - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact Canadian version of your FCC. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what's crtc? marlon - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] CRTC Contact I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation
actually, at 900 mhz, 36 is preferred. On one tower, with trango, using an OD9-11 (11 dbi vert omni), I saw 8-10 db improvements in my customer connections that were NLOS when I moved the antenna out from 24 to 36 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've always been taught that 18 is the minimum. marlon - Original Message - *From:* Kurt Fankhauser mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:12 AM *Subject:* [WISPA] omni tower separation Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, I’ve done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering what 6 would do. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?
Ido not necessarilly think that the quality of WISPCON has degraded that much. Its more thatthe attendee WISP basehas matured, and looking for new attractions, and new shows have popped up to attract them. Once a WISP has went to WISPCON 3-4 times in a row, they start trying shows that offer something different. WiNog offering, more techncial exchange discussion between experienced operators, which has shown to be extremely valueable to the WISPs that have been there done that. ISPCON, for WISPs looking for more than just wireless technology knowledge. As WISPs mature they start to learn that business strategy is more important, and all operations of the busines such as services, is as important as the wireless technolegy. This is one of the reasons I got involved with ISPCON, and think its the best overall show. Its one of the reasons the show is filled by executives as well as staff from the large ISPs. However, each show has its unique benefits. WISPCON has a tremendous amount to offer a newbie WISP, who has one primary goal, to learn what Wireless is about. I'd argue that WISPCON is probably the best show for a new technican to learn more about wireless. ISPCON has been fantastic for people deciding whether they should get into wireless. WiNog, for advanced WISPs. However, this is a very generalized summary. You can find a little bit about everything from all the shows. My personal opinion is, that if someone had to chose just one show to attend, it would be ISPCON. Because it offers a little about everything, because it has the funding and experience management to be nothing but top professional.Its also has a VERY strong advisory board of experts that help direct its direction.However, that opinion is not meant to take anything away from the other shows. Look carefully at the show agendas, and then pick the one that caters best to the needs you are looking for. If you want an ALL wireless show, thats not whats ISPCON is all about. Wireless is just one tool in the shed. Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? wispcons have historically been very good shows. We'll see if Mike can get that back. ispcon should be a pretty good one. wca is mostly carriers and muni these days near as I can tell. that help? marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Wispcon? SO what do most folks here do about shows like wispcon? I attended the one in DC last year and it appeared to be sparsely attended both on the wisp and vendor sides. I always thought the shows were a good chance to get together and share ideas etc. Do you value them? If you could attend one show would it be wispcon/ispcon/winog? Thanks, chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Re[2]: [WISPA] 900 yagi
I recently was showed a Ashtron. They don't have the high gain of 17dbi like the M2s. But they are really nice from a stability point of view. Their clamps are MUCH better than the M2s, and will stay aligned in place much better. Did the plastic bag help? I would thing that it were help hold snow and ice in the way, when mounted horizontal, with no drain space between elements. I would like to see a clear cylinder Yagi cover for the M2s, and a better clamps method for the M2, on my wish list. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Barry at Mutual Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:23 AM Subject: Re[2]: [WISPA] 900 yagi Hello Brian, The M2 is the cat's meow. only caveat is they do not like freezing rain/sleet. Detunes the elements and performance drops. Ron at Lightspeed Wireless is selling plastic bags that fit over the elements. Not a winning solution in my book. Yeah we bought some. Other really good 900yagi's we have used are Ashtrons. We originally used Cushcraft but the thin pigtail sucks big time in my book, breaks way too easy. We also have 50-75 Pac Wireless yagi's installed, but depending on what element is used have seen them rust and get water in them. We stick with the M2's and are looking for a real plastic cover that would eliminate the water issue. For panels, the Alvarion/MTI/Waverider work real well. Barry Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 10:29:50 PM, you wrote: BR Anyone closer to Michigan than California stock these? BR G.Villarini wrote: Canopy has an N Male, we used yagis from here: www.m2inc.com Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 900 yagi Looking for a 900mhz Yagi. What are good ones? Preferably less than $100 each. I'd like to order tomorrow and from someone in the midwest so I get it next day by shipping next day? Does anything fit the bill? Also, what connector does Canopy have? I don't see it on the spec sheet. Brian BR -- BR Brian Rohrbacher BR Reliable Internet, LLC BR www.reliableinter.net BR Cell 269-838-8338 BR Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- Best regards, Barrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation
I can tell you from experience, mounting it at 6 inches is not a good idea. We did that once, in a rush job, when the climbers were there and mounting hardware was not. Definate holes in coverage were identified after the fact. The answer of how far from the tower, is also a factor of how big your tower is, and of what kind. I recommend 18-24. As for Rick's suggestion of 36, never tried it, so don't know, but I see no reason not to take his word for it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation actually, at 900 mhz, 36 is preferred. On one tower, with trango, using an OD9-11 (11 dbi vert omni), I saw 8-10 db improvements in my customer connections that were NLOS when I moved the antenna out from 24 to 36 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've always been taught that 18 is the minimum. marlon - Original Message - *From:* Kurt Fankhauser mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:12 AM *Subject:* [WISPA] omni tower separation Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, I’ve done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering what 6 would do. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation
Take my word also - We fought our 900mhz links for weeks until we moved 36inches away from the tower - even at 30inches you'll be kickin yerself in the arse. For 2.4ghz - I've seen issues with anything less then 18inches of seperation from a tower. JohnnyO On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 21:42 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: I can tell you from experience, mounting it at 6 inches is not a good idea. We did that once, in a rush job, when the climbers were there and mounting hardware was not. Definate holes in coverage were identified after the fact. The answer of how far from the tower, is also a factor of how big your tower is, and of what kind. I recommend 18-24. As for Rick's suggestion of 36, never tried it, so don't know, but I see no reason not to take his word for it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation actually, at 900 mhz, 36 is preferred. On one tower, with trango, using an OD9-11 (11 dbi vert omni), I saw 8-10 db improvements in my customer connections that were NLOS when I moved the antenna out from 24 to 36 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've always been taught that 18 is the minimum. marlon - Original Message - *From:* Kurt Fankhauser mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:12 AM *Subject:* [WISPA] omni tower separation Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, Ive done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering what 6 would do. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation
I to can kick in some experience here! I mounted an omni one time on top of a building on a tripod. I shoved the Omni as high as I could reach to push it up(hehehehe not to high) on the mast and tightened it down. The omni was not as tall as the mast and was mounted about 3 off the mast. I checked it out about a week later and noticed that it always had 900kbps of traffic on the wireless interface even though there was no ethernet traffic (mrtg graphs via SNMP) and it really puzzeled me. After stewing over it I decided it was either a bad radio card or that stinking mast beside the omni - - it was the mast :-) Moral of the story = get some distance from whatever is close! Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation I can tell you from experience, mounting it at 6 inches is not a good idea. We did that once, in a rush job, when the climbers were there and mounting hardware was not. Definate holes in coverage were identified after the fact. The answer of how far from the tower, is also a factor of how big your tower is, and of what kind. I recommend 18-24. As for Rick's suggestion of 36, never tried it, so don't know, but I see no reason not to take his word for it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation actually, at 900 mhz, 36 is preferred. On one tower, with trango, using an OD9-11 (11 dbi vert omni), I saw 8-10 db improvements in my customer connections that were NLOS when I moved the antenna out from 24 to 36 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've always been taught that 18 is the minimum. marlon - Original Message - *From:* Kurt Fankhauser mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:12 AM *Subject:* [WISPA] omni tower separation Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?, I’ve done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering what 6 would do. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able to learn a little bit about house cleaning from this. Who is Bob Smith ? *Bob Smith Wrote* HI All, I'm a wireless network consultant in my 'other life' and thought you all might get a real charge out of seeing what some people call a 'commercial tower install' The tower in the pictures is used by a TV translator system , but a new WISP in Ky. is thinking of putting up a system on the tower also. He is experiencing a whole lot of electrical noise when he mounts his antennas on the tower, but he can hold them in his hand, not mounted, and the noise goes away. So now he's thinking of wrapping the mounts with electrical tape to insulate them from the tower and install his equipment. (Good electrical practice?) My comment to him was tie a cable to his bumper and to the tower and drive away from the tower, this way he would be doing both the tower owner and himself a favor. No kidding aside, as you can see in the pictures (#13 - #27) the tower is a mess. http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/index.php Gawd, ham's get hassled in California for a 30' tower, and in Ky. you can just put of anything, anyway and use it ,, Go figure. Bob Smith NA6T Bob Smith A.R.S NA6T ARRL Life Member Fort Bragg, California 95437 On The Air-Conditioned Mendocino Coast, In REAL Northern California No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Lightning Protection
Does is really do any good to have the supressor inside of the enclosure grounded to everything inside ? I thought the suppressor was supposed to go straight to ground ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5529.jpg Can someone clarify - I think we've been doing this wrong all of these years if this IS the proper way to do it . JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightning Protection
The only reason I asked this and think it's funny - *no offense intended* is b/c one of my techs did an install like this - Apparently when the tower got struck by lightning - the enclosure exploded due to the discharge ring on the supressor inside of the box... I mean literally exploded. I had routerboard / enclosure crap for 100s of ft all around the tower. Wish I could have gotten that on video. On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:20 -0600, JohnnyO wrote: Does is really do any good to have the supressor inside of the enclosure grounded to everything inside ? I thought the suppressor was supposed to go straight to ground ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5529.jpg Can someone clarify - I think we've been doing this wrong all of these years if this IS the proper way to do it . JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
