Re: [WISPA] Crimp or solder?
I'm with the others here. Times EZ connectors are the greatest. And they also have a fairly new version that's bolt together. No need to even crimp the outer band. Totally reusable too! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] Crimp or solder? We've always terminated LMR 195/400/600 with solder on tips in the past. Its a real pain in the arse to do in many environments. Can anyone relate experiences with the crimp on tips? IS there any loss of reliability etc.? Thanks, Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Canopy 900
I need a Canopy 900 AP overnighted to me from a Vendor or WISP. Hit me offlist or call. 269 838 8338 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a TR-6000 ASAP
Never mind - found one. Thanks! - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need a TR-6000 ASAP Anyone have a TR-6000 in stock they could overnight to me? Electro-Comm is showing 1-2 weeks on it. I'm sure there are other sources, though, I'm just not aware of them (other than direct from Tranzeo). Thanks! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
Trade here as well. Hooked up Public Works and several sewer pump stations for web cams...saves them about 1 FTE in monitoring the sewer pumps. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I trade space and electricity for service. No limit on speed or connections for the city. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
Jason, Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the water towers in my area for years. Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's and modem they were currently using. I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure! - Cliff - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a TR-6000 ASAP
Try Streakwave, talk with Josh. They have alot of Tranzeo in stock. They've always gotten my shipments out same day. 888-604-5234. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need a TR-6000 ASAP Anyone have a TR-6000 in stock they could overnight to me? Electro-Comm is showing 1-2 weeks on it. I'm sure there are other sources, though, I'm just not aware of them (other than direct from Tranzeo). Thanks! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
For the life of me, it amazes me how companies come up with requirements like 10,000. Any one with half a sense, would realise that WISPs dont have 10,000 subs yet, but all combined represent a unique segment of the market, The Under Served, that no other ISP can touch. Its not like you can turn the station like TV or Radio. 7000 wireless providers times 500 users each = 3,500,000 unique eye balls to market to with Broadband. Adzilla is insane not having a 500 sub startout package. Where you miss in vlume of users you substitute with frequency of adds. Where you had had hardware appliance you subsitute software executable. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams Oh, yippee. 1 WISP can do it. 10,000 subs what? Guess we can quit talking about this. Eric DaVersa wrote: Currently its 10K subs since it is a rev share/subsidy model - dial-up, DSL, wireless. A high volume of business class subs can make this number flexible. There will be lower tier appliance platforms coming down the pipeline. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this??? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams The simple answer to that is don't use that option. The ad optimization is transparent and its basically free money. I usually have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so in the interest of saving time... It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free money. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours. I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining, customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too intrusive for me to consider. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: VoIP termination
What is 6/6 billing? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: VoIP termination I assume those numbers don't require a commitment on minute volume. If so, those are seemingly strong offerings. However, I would assume this is over the internet termination, which we find unacceptable for several reasons not the least of which is QoS. Additionally, I have found many of these providers have no ability to deal with fax traffic. Then of course you get into the problem of LNP, CNAM, and E911. -Matt Brian Whigham wrote: I don't know what volume Matt's dealing with. But, I haven't checked the lowest prices in a few months; so my interest was piqued. Here's what I found. If anyone has any experience with these providers, let me know. Both provide IAX2 and SIP. sellvoip.net (since '97) Product Monthly Cost Setup Cost Usage Cost Local DID $1.00 $1.00 $0.011 per minute Toll-Free DID $1.00 $2.00 $0.020 per minute US 48* LNP available DIDs were local to many rural GA areas (where I am) plainvoip USA termination - $0.009 Toll-free terminatoin - $0.005 6/6 billing Currently, I use voipjet.com and voxee.com with much success. Domestic rates are $0.013 and $0.011 per minute, respectively. I think they both bill 6/6. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
Thanks Cliff (and everyone else). The local folks here have been told by someone they should not take less than $1000 per month for someone to locate on their tower. Needless to say that puts a pretty big hit in the pocket book, and makes ROI pretty much non-existent for small-town WISP's like myself (I'm in a town of rolling hills and lots of big thick oak trees, population around 12,000). So, I'm working trying to find comparable figures for what others are paying and have worked out, etc, just to show that most are not paying anywhere near the $1000 per month for a water tower. Other towers, yes, maybe, but not water towers - at least not that I have found. - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the water towers in my area for years. Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's and modem they were currently using. I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure! - Cliff - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
Jason, The $1,000 per month was probably set by some cellular company years ago. The cell provider probably has its own tower now, but the $1,000 number remains in the water tower owners head and is probably 'pie-in-the-sky,' especially now. I have also located on billboards here... Where there's a will...there's a way! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Thanks Cliff (and everyone else). The local folks here have been told by someone they should not take less than $1000 per month for someone to locate on their tower. Needless to say that puts a pretty big hit in the pocket book, and makes ROI pretty much non-existent for small-town WISP's like myself (I'm in a town of rolling hills and lots of big thick oak trees, population around 12,000). So, I'm working trying to find comparable figures for what others are paying and have worked out, etc, just to show that most are not paying anywhere near the $1000 per month for a water tower. Other towers, yes, maybe, but not water towers - at least not that I have found. - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the water towers in my area for years. Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's and modem they were currently using. I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure! - Cliff - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
We have 2 water tower locations. At one, we provide free service and hosting for the city. At the other, we provide free service to the city and 4% of our net profit generated by users connected directly to their water tower. At a similar location, (an old city owned NORAD radar dome), we provide internet service for the city and hosting. In all cases, the city's involved consider us to be an asset and a source of indirect revenue. Houses here are much harder to sell if broadband is not available. Make friends with realtors Jason Hensley wrote: Thanks Cliff (and everyone else). The local folks here have been told by someone they should not take less than $1000 per month for someone to locate on their tower. Needless to say that puts a pretty big hit in the pocket book, and makes ROI pretty much non-existent for small-town WISP's like myself (I'm in a town of rolling hills and lots of big thick oak trees, population around 12,000). So, I'm working trying to find comparable figures for what others are paying and have worked out, etc, just to show that most are not paying anywhere near the $1000 per month for a water tower. Other towers, yes, maybe, but not water towers - at least not that I have found. - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the water towers in my area for years. Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's and modem they were currently using. I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure! - Cliff - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
Jason, I also ran into that, when I started building out my network. The local water company involved an outside company to find out a fair value for the tanks might be. They came back with a high number (in my opinion), but stated that cell phone companies get charged more... I waited about a year, and he randomly called me the other day. I mentioned that if he would have lowered his prices or been a bit flexible, I would have signed earlier and he would have had 12 months of service and me on his tanks. When he called, I suggested coming over and hooking him up. He agreed and was MUCH more agreeable and I set the price 1/2 of what he had originally heard from this outside company. If you are wanting numbers, send it to the WISP forums, not the public ones. QuoteYou can only charge what people are willing to pay./Quote Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Thanks Cliff (and everyone else). The local folks here have been told by someone they should not take less than $1000 per month for someone to locate on their tower. Needless to say that puts a pretty big hit in the pocket book, and makes ROI pretty much non-existent for small-town WISP's like myself (I'm in a town of rolling hills and lots of big thick oak trees, population around 12,000). So, I'm working trying to find comparable figures for what others are paying and have worked out, etc, just to show that most are not paying anywhere near the $1000 per month for a water tower. Other towers, yes, maybe, but not water towers - at least not that I have found. - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the water towers in my area for years. Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's and modem they were currently using. I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure! - Cliff - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation
We live in a town of 6,000 people and there are only 20,000 in the county. The city water company makes $3000+ per month from one of their water tanks. They charge $1000 - $1500 per month per tenant. The tank is only 100' tall so I don't know why the cell companies just don't erect their own tower in the area, there is a lot of land here for sale at prices in the $3k - $10k per acre range. Most water companies however will swap out free broadband and free installation for free use of their water tanks. Others are happy to receive $50 - $100 per month per water tank. I think what it really comes down to is who you are and who you know when dealing with water companies. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, The $1,000 per month was probably set by some cellular company years ago. The cell provider probably has its own tower now, but the $1,000 number remains in the water tower owners head and is probably 'pie-in-the-sky,' especially now. I have also located on billboards here... Where there's a will...there's a way! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Thanks Cliff (and everyone else). The local folks here have been told by someone they should not take less than $1000 per month for someone to locate on their tower. Needless to say that puts a pretty big hit in the pocket book, and makes ROI pretty much non-existent for small-town WISP's like myself (I'm in a town of rolling hills and lots of big thick oak trees, population around 12,000). So, I'm working trying to find comparable figures for what others are paying and have worked out, etc, just to show that most are not paying anywhere near the $1000 per month for a water tower. Other towers, yes, maybe, but not water towers - at least not that I have found. - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation Jason, Each deal is different. I had tried unsuccessfully to get access to the water towers in my area for years. Than, one day, the realized that I could offer them something...two way IP communication to their equipment, and they could eliminate the 1FB's and modem they were currently using. I not charge them $30 per month for their 42 locations, and have rights to all of their towers for AP's...Go figure! - Cliff - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower Colocation I'm looking for comparisons again on water tower colocation. Have another area I'm trying to go into. Looking for what you're paying, if anything, what you're trading out (speed, number of buildings / connections, etc), etc etc. Specifically looking for folks in towns of under 20,000, but anything will help. Thanks a lot in advance!!! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
Easy to say but then you don't have to supply the Sun boxes that the Zillacasters run on. Also, selling local advertising takes time and man-power. How do you get enough click-throughs and other metrix on 500 subs? Even pay the advertising salesperson? Regards, Peter Tom DeReggi wrote: For the life of me, it amazes me how companies come up with requirements like 10,000. Any one with half a sense, would realise that WISPs dont have 10,000 subs yet, but all combined represent a unique segment of the market, The Under Served, that no other ISP can touch. Its not like you can turn the station like TV or Radio. 7000 wireless providers times 500 users each = 3,500,000 unique eye balls to market to with Broadband. Adzilla is insane not having a 500 sub startout package. Where you miss in vlume of users you substitute with frequency of adds. Where you had had hardware appliance you subsitute software executable. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
The requirement is actually pretty simple. All of the traffic has to be aggregated to an appliance, so there has to be an appliance at each network's headend. Well thats the question. Does it have to be that way. I don't see the need to have all the traffic flow through it. I see it sitting in parallel, and just certain type of traffic gets redirected to the cache appliance server that adds the marketing data. Tom DeReggi Therefore, the company is going to want the most band for their buck by putting the appliance at large network headends as opposed to small. One the flip side, businesses shouldn't be counted as single subs. Clearly, a business with 150 employees should be worth more than a single subscriber. -Matt Tom DeReggi wrote: For the life of me, it amazes me how companies come up with requirements like 10,000. Any one with half a sense, would realise that WISPs dont have 10,000 subs yet, but all combined represent a unique segment of the market, The Under Served, that no other ISP can touch. Its not like you can turn the station like TV or Radio. 7000 wireless providers times 500 users each = 3,500,000 unique eye balls to market to with Broadband. Adzilla is insane not having a 500 sub startout package. Where you miss in vlume of users you substitute with frequency of adds. Where you had had hardware appliance you subsitute software executable. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams Oh, yippee. 1 WISP can do it. 10,000 subs what? Guess we can quit talking about this. Eric DaVersa wrote: Currently its 10K subs since it is a rev share/subsidy model - dial-up, DSL, wireless. A high volume of business class subs can make this number flexible. There will be lower tier appliance platforms coming down the pipeline. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this??? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams The simple answer to that is don't use that option. The ad optimization is transparent and its basically free money. I usually have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so in the interest of saving time... It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free money. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours. I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining, customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too intrusive for me to consider. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA
