Re: [WISPA] FWD: NYS AG Cuomo settles with VZ Wirelss on unlimiteddata
Wow, big fine for someone with a market capitalization of almost $130B. If I only got fined $0.47, I wouldn't be too deterred from doing it again (same ratio of Verizon applied to the average person's income). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] FWD: NYS AG Cuomo settles with VZ Wirelss on unlimiteddata -- Original Message -- From: d berns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Telecom Regulation the Internet[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:57:57 -0400 http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2007/oct/oct23a_07.html VERIZON WIRELESS AGREES TO SETTLE DECEPTIVE MARKETING INVESTIGATION UNLIMITED INTERNET PLANS WERE ACTUALLY LIMITED COMPANY AGREES TO CHANGE PRACTICES AND REIMBURSE CUSTOMERS New York, NY (Oct 23, 2007) - Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo today announced that Verizon Wireless has agreed to halt the deceptive marketing of its internet usage plans and reimburse $1 million to customers for wrongful account termination nationwide. The settlement follows a nine-month investigation into the marketing of NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess plans for wireless access to the internet for laptop computer users. Attorney General's investigation found that Verizon Wireless prominently marketed these plans as 'Unlimited, without disclosing that common usages such as downloading movies or playing games online were prohibited. The company also cut off heavy internet users for exceeding an undisclosed cap of usage per month. As a result, customers misled by the company's claims, enrolled in its Unlimited plans, only to have their accounts abruptly terminated for excessive use, leaving them without internet services and unable to obtain refunds. This settlement sends a message to companies large and small answering the growing consumer demand for wireless services. When consumers are promised an `unlimited' service, they do not expect the promise to be broken by hidden limitations, said Attorney General Andrew Cuomo. Consumers must be treated fairly and honestly. Delivering a product is simply not enough - the promises must be delivered as well. The Attorney General's investigation uncovered that while Verizon Wireless prominently placed print, television and online advertisements promising UNLIMITED NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess for $59.99 per month: * Unlimited plans had hidden restrictions. Verizon marketed its NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess service plans to consumers nationwide as Unlimited despite the plans' limitations. In fact, the plans only permitted limited activities such as web browsing, email and intranet access. Customers who used their plans for common activities such as downloading movies and video or even playing video games online, were unwittingly in violation of the terms and conditions of their service agreements. * Excessive use of Unlimited Plans resulted in abrupt terminations. Verizon Wireless terminated heavy internet users claiming that the high levels of usage could only have been attained by activities, such as streaming or downloading movies and video prohibited by the terms and conditions. These usage restrictions were not clearly and conspicuously disclosed to consumers and directly contradicted the promise of unlimited service. Customers found their accounts abruptly terminated for excessive use, leaving them without internet services and unable to obtain refunds for their wireless access cards and cell phones. From 2004 until April of this year, Verizon Wireless terminated over 13,000 consumers nationwide for excessive use of its unlimited internet access plans. These customers were subsequently unable to use their Verizon Wireless cell phones and modems to connect to the internet. Verizon Wireless has agreed to reimburse all terminated consumers for the cost of wireless access cards or cell phones purchased by the consumer in order to utilize Verizon Wireless's wireless internet service. Verizon Wireless estimates the total amount of restitution to be approximately $1 million nationwide. Verizon Wireless has also agreed to pay penalties and costs of $150,000 to New York State and revise the company's marketing of its wireless internet access plans. Verizon Wireless fully and voluntarily cooperated with the Office of the Attorney General throughout this inquiry. Since April of 2007, Verizon Wireless has voluntarily ceased cutting off customers based on their data usage and no longer prohibits common internet uses. The case
[WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
You can dump their software and build your own. I have not seen anything else quite like them but would also like to know what else exists. On 10/25/07, Anthony Lemons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
I understand that Ruckus is going to release a mesh system. I have not heard when, but I believed it to be soon. Tim - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? You can dump their software and build your own. I have not seen anything else quite like them but would also like to know what else exists. On 10/25/07, Anthony Lemons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Doesn't WiliBox have something like this also?? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? I understand that Ruckus is going to release a mesh system. I have not heard when, but I believed it to be soon. Tim - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? You can dump their software and build your own. I have not seen anything else quite like them but would also like to know what else exists. On 10/25/07, Anthony Lemons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
I have heard that this unit does not run StarOS v3. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
OLSR allows you to have multiple paths (tcp/IP) to your Internet gateway, a true mesh system not only allows multiple paths, but will also seek out different wireless connections to different SSID's to find the shortest path to the Internet gateway. In the case of OLSR (of the systems I've seen) it does not seek a list of SSID wireless connection. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anthony Our complete RWR HPG product line has Mesh based on OLSRd (http://www.olsr.org/). http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwr/index.html http://www.demarctech.com/about-us/demarc-rwr-press.pdf There is a GUI for olsrd which will run under Linux or Windows: http://www.olsr.org/index.cgi?action=gui These are true outdoor unit that has been designed and tested to work from -40C to +65C and with 630mW output power vs -10C to 50C and 200mW peak transmission power which is most likely lower power levels in when modulated. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Lemons Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:24 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Tony, Does your product allow multi SSID's and routed wds links? Do you have or plan to have a out door omni unit? The optional poe protection is nice looking. Jeromie On 10/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Our complete RWR HPG product line has Mesh based on OLSRd (http://www.olsr.org/). http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwr/index.html http://www.demarctech.com/about-us/demarc-rwr-press.pdf There is a GUI for olsrd which will run under Linux or Windows: http://www.olsr.org/index.cgi?action=gui These are true outdoor unit that has been designed and tested to work from -40C to +65C and with 630mW output power vs -10C to 50C and 200mW peak transmission power which is most likely lower power levels in when modulated. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Lemons Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:24 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Hi Anthony: We offer a 2-radio and 3-radio mesh product based on a proprietary L2 mesh. It takes into account wireless datarates, node loads, position, etc. and was built specifically for wireless mesh networks. There are many advantages of L2 meshes over L3 meshes. Our mesh products also offer QoS across the mesh end-to-end. Here are the datasheets for the products: http://www.ligowave.com/landing/specs/LGOM2AGN.pdf http://www.ligowave.com/landing/specs/LGOM3AGN.pdf These are available from Deliberant and from DoubleRadius as well. Let me know if you have any questions! Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 (office) 404.693.0660 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Lemons Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:24 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Yes, and our system is built off of a customized version of this software. Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 (office) 404.693.0660 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Doesn't WiliBox have something like this also?? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? I understand that Ruckus is going to release a mesh system. I have not heard when, but I believed it to be soon. Tim - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? You can dump their software and build your own. I have not seen anything else quite like them but would also like to know what else exists. On 10/25/07, Anthony Lemons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Anthony, The CUWIN project has their mesh software running on Meraki: http://www.cuwin.net/pr/2006/meraki (but this is a year old and I haven't heard much about it since...) CUWIN is the Champaign / Urbana Illinois community wireless group (started at UIUC I think). What's wrong with Meraki that you would trust some other company over them? -John On October 25, at 10:24 AM October 25, Anthony Lemons wrote: Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Vendors, Please be careful when responding to posts. Feel free to contact the original poster offlist if you would like to promote your products. General response to questions are ok, but be wary that it doesn’t turn into an advertisement of your products. I know it is a fine line and I definitely do not want to limit the flow of knowledge on the list, however, in fairness to other vendors and the more sensitive list members, we need to be careful. WISPA is attempting to promote vendor member products better than we have in the past. If you haven’t looked at the WISPA homepage lately, you will find a new section called Vendor Member Spotlight in the menu on the left side, with a listing of current Vendor Members below it. These links will take you to a page dedicated for promotional content and link to the vendor’s webpage. We just started this, this week and thus far, we have only received content from Butch Evans. I have contacted all the vendor members requesting this material and most are in the process of working on it currently. So check back often to see the updated Vendor Member pages. Respectfully, Rick Harnish No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Jeromie On the RWR product line mesh is strictly base on OLSRd, so what it support so will the RWR. We have been getting many requests from customers for a low cost high power mesh that would work in campus and school setups, which the RWR works great for. We do not have multi SSID support but we do have support for static routing. Can you give me an idea on how you would use this in a network design where multi-SSID would be need with mesh and routing?? Also the RWR-HPG-N is an outdoor unit with an N connector which an omni can easily be mounted using a barrel coupler thus removing the need for a cable. https://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwr/rwr-hpg-n.htm Also all the RWR-HPG come standard with the advanced lighting protection expect for the DT-RWR-HPG-10AS which has an option as many customers are using these for indoor installs where LP are not needed. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Tony, Does your product allow multi SSID's and routed wds links? Do you have or plan to have a out door omni unit? The optional poe protection is nice looking. Jeromie On 10/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Our complete RWR HPG product line has Mesh based on OLSRd (http://www.olsr.org/). http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwr/index.html http://www.demarctech.com/about-us/demarc-rwr-press.pdf There is a GUI for olsrd which will run under Linux or Windows: http://www.olsr.org/index.cgi?action=gui These are true outdoor unit that has been designed and tested to work from -40C to +65C and with 630mW output power vs -10C to 50C and 200mW peak transmission power which is most likely lower power levels in when modulated. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Lemons Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:24 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3
That is true. They were originally going to support the LS2 (the radio inside the PS2) but later backed away from that. I believe there was an issue with the hardware. They needed UBNT to make a change in order to support it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3 I have heard that this unit does not run StarOS v3. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB532 Harmful Noise at 899 also
Mac, Pretty much the only thing I have seen, is MT not acknowledging the issue exists publically. The issue was resolved and changes to the MB were immediate. Do you know where I can find proof of this? If I could have found such info, I could have attributed it to my older rev board, and I could have kept this topic offlist, and spared MT the bad rap. But I can tell you, it was not good for my reputation when Nextel came knocking on my door with a Spectrum Analyzer in hand. I have had some issues in the 149/151MHz range at 48Vdc and have had a spectrum analyzer sniffing the board and the POE to check for other out of band emissions and have never seen an instance with MT at that high of a frequency. Exactly why I was concerned... that was the word on the street regarding the old problem. However, my problem on 899Mhz was clear. That could infer that maybe I have a newer rev board that had the 149M problem fixed and created a new one at 899M? resolved by changing to 18Vdc POE. In our case, we initially had the MT 48V POE, then we moved jumper, and tried a 18V w/ Halfmoon POE, and then tried with Pacwireless integrated 18V POE. The lowest emmissions were when using the 18V PacWireless, but the interference was still significant at 899M in all situations. Is there a Rev number on the boards that indicate which boards are FIXED versus not fixed boards? How can I guarantee that I procure a fixed board, apposed to distribution old stock? Are all the 400Mhz boards fixed? It would be good news, if this could be resolved with just a MB replacement. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB532 Harmful Noise at 899 also Tom, I have had some issues in the 149/151MHz range at 48Vdc and have had a spectrum analyzer sniffing the board and the POE to check for other out of band emissions and have never seen an instance with MT at that high of a frequency. The problems were on the older RB532 and it is well documented on how to fix the problem. 99% of the noise that we saw was actually being transmitted at the POE (transferred via cat5?) at the base of the tower and it was resolved by changing to 18Vdc POE. It was bad enough that we shut down two Sheriffs Depts. Base stations and a HAM operator - - each on their own towers where we were co-located. (ouch) The issue was resolved and changes to the MB were immediate. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB532 Harmful Noise at 899 also In the past several have mentioned the RB532that spews harmful noise (out of band, I think around 400mhz?) when 48volt PS was used. Just had an insodent today, (with a test unit that was installed in the field still). It was spewing out interference at 899Mhz noise interfering with Nextel. Confirmed with Spectrum Analyzer it was comming from mainboard. The noise was present even when the 5.8Ghz mpci card was disabled. Switching to 18V helped a little, but it was still causing significant interference. This RBunit is about 1.5 years. Just giving a heads up, for other MT users. Does anyone know if this problem was fixed on any of the other newer models? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
I will add that we've done some work with Ligo, and their support/response is awesome. Their product is still in early generation, but with their tech team, the product is evolving quickly. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Harold Bledsoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Yes, and our system is built off of a customized version of this software. Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 (office) 404.693.0660 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Doesn't WiliBox have something like this also?? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? I understand that Ruckus is going to release a mesh system. I have not heard when, but I believed it to be soon. Tim - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? You can dump their software and build your own. I have not seen anything else quite like them but would also like to know what else exists. On 10/25/07, Anthony Lemons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php **
[WISPA] 5.3Ghz bandpass filters
Does anyone know where I can buy a cost effective 5.3Ghz Full band pass filter? Further Food for thought: One of the biggest differences that we have noticed, using OEM gear (MB's with mpci Radios), compared to our first generation Trango network, is how much more interference we get at APs. I believe this is because Trango had quality filter designs embedded into their solutions, allthough I'm not an electrical engineer to confirm that. With the OEM gear, I frequently get a good 20db lower signal strength at an AP than I do from the CPE side. (with same gain antennas and same TX power levels) We usually go through the motions of swapping Cards, PS, and MBs as well as fine alignments, to double check. This had also been seen more frequently where we had tried Omni installs, and more susceptable to interference. Sometimes we could solve it with narrower beam antennas, but in many cases that was just not good enough. In most cases we where easilly able to find and use external 2.4G and 900Mhz Filters, which would immediately gain us a good 15db or so, and solve the link problems. So two thumbs up for external filters. Truthfully, in the last two months we've needed more filters, than the within the complete last 7 years we've been in this industry. I attribute this to our larger use of 4 port OEM systems. In today's case, we had 5.8Ghz interference that we thought was self interference from our large number of adjacent sectors, so decided to try 5.3Ghz. We used a Trango built-in spectrum scanner to confirm there was no noise at 5.3Ghz. However, when using an OEM 5.3Ghz radio w/ external AP 20deg panel antenna, we had a 20db loss of signal on the AP side, making the link unusable (-64 at CPE,.-85 at AP). We believe its out-of-band interference or over powering from the near by colocated high power paging antennas at the same horizontal plane. This brought to my attention that we did not have a solution for a 5.3Ghz bandpass filter. And it is needed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.3Ghz bandpass filters
Tom, Maybe this is a dumb question, but I assume you are using antennas rated for 5.3ghz at the AP and CPE side? We have seen some antennas (PacWireless dishes) that are rated for 5.8ghz work perfectly well at 5.3ghz... but then we have seen other antennas rated for 5.8ghz that don't work very well at all below 5.700ghz. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a cost effective 5.3Ghz Full band pass filter? Further Food for thought: One of the biggest differences that we have noticed, using OEM gear (MB's with mpci Radios), compared to our first generation Trango network, is how much more interference we get at APs. I believe this is because Trango had quality filter designs embedded into their solutions, allthough I'm not an electrical engineer to confirm that. With the OEM gear, I frequently get a good 20db lower signal strength at an AP than I do from the CPE side. (with same gain antennas and same TX power levels) We usually go through the motions of swapping Cards, PS, and MBs as well as fine alignments, to double check. This had also been seen more frequently where we had tried Omni installs, and more susceptable to interference. Sometimes we could solve it with narrower beam antennas, but in many cases that was just not good enough. In most cases we where easilly able to find and use external 2.4G and 900Mhz Filters, which would immediately gain us a good 15db or so, and solve the link problems. So two thumbs up for external filters. Truthfully, in the last two months we've needed more filters, than the within the complete last 7 years we've been in this industry. I attribute this to our larger use of 4 port OEM systems. In today's case, we had 5.8Ghz interference that we thought was self interference from our large number of adjacent sectors, so decided to try 5.3Ghz. We used a Trango built-in spectrum scanner to confirm there was no noise at 5.3Ghz. However, when using an OEM 5.3Ghz radio w/ external AP 20deg panel antenna, we had a 20db loss of signal on the AP side, making the link unusable (-64 at CPE,.-85 at AP). We believe its out-of-band interference or over powering from the near by colocated high power paging antennas at the same horizontal plane. This brought to my attention that we did not have a solution for a 5.3Ghz bandpass filter. And it is needed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??
Tim While I agree with what you are saying in principal, the definition of a True Mesh is every changing :) OLSR is based on the ad-hoc design, and with the level of processor we are using, a single ESSID and channel with somewhere in the 75-100 interface range should work very well for most of the customers that will be using it. To do what you are asking for would take more processing power and add to the cost which is not the intention of the RWR design. This is just another tool for the WISP to use in a design that makes sense with OLSR :) Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kerns Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? OLSR allows you to have multiple paths (tcp/IP) to your Internet gateway, a true mesh system not only allows multiple paths, but will also seek out different wireless connections to different SSID's to find the shortest path to the Internet gateway. In the case of OLSR (of the systems I've seen) it does not seek a list of SSID wireless connection. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anthony Our complete RWR HPG product line has Mesh based on OLSRd (http://www.olsr.org/). http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwr/index.html http://www.demarctech.com/about-us/demarc-rwr-press.pdf There is a GUI for olsrd which will run under Linux or Windows: http://www.olsr.org/index.cgi?action=gui These are true outdoor unit that has been designed and tested to work from -40C to +65C and with 630mW output power vs -10C to 50C and 200mW peak transmission power which is most likely lower power levels in when modulated. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Lemons Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:24 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anyone know if there is an equipment line along the lines of what Meraki is selling? I've been checking out Meraki and like the low cost, self install, mesh technology, etc. but I do not like that you will be depending on their backend (Dashboard) software. Are there any other companies offering products along this line? Anthony ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
