Re: [WISPA] ATT Wins Licenses to Airwaves
ATT will use the 700 Band for LTE, or/and MediaFlo. I highly doubt this stuff will sit idle. Mike Bushard, Jr Wireless Network Engineer 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT Wins Licenses to Airwaves 2.5 billion? Oh brother. Just what anyone needed. Now there will be even more spectrum with no services offered. And people are going to think, again, that they can just buy spectrum and make money from that. marlon - Original Message - From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: [WISPA] ATT Wins Licenses to Airwaves http://tinyurl.com/3c7pyr WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] StarOS and VOIP
I thought I might pass on a piece of information I recently found out about StarOS networks. At the StarOS training session last month, they mentioned that the newer Version3 firmware automatically prioritizes VOIP traffic as long as the correct TOS bit is set. That made it a lot easier to prioritize our VOIP traffic, as all we had to do was upgrade the firmware on our backhauls. This works on the CPE units as well. I recently installed a WAR1 StarOS CPE unit with V3 firmware on it at my house to see how it would work. Last night, I was on the VOIP phone with Mac Dearman for about 45 minutes and it seemed to really be working well. I didn't have any dropouts and the audio quality was excellent - as good as our landline. I was fairly impressed with how well it works. The real shock came when I turned on the computer hooked up to my TV and realized that I had 2meg worth of Bit Torrent connections going on at the same time as our phone conversation! In the past, BT has turned VOIP into mush, but apparently the StarOS guys have figured out how to prioritize that traffic and keep it working very well. Damn impressive guys - keep up the good work! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation
Get on the Alvarion Webinar next week, 900Mhz VL is coming. Mike Bushard, Jr Wireless Network Engineer 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation Im looking at 3 different 900 Mhz PTMTP systems - Trango, WR and Tranzeo. Im familiar with WR performance etc. Can anybody speak to Trango and Tranzeo? The Tranzeo cpe price point is pretty compelling. Ive heard that the new generation Tranzeo works much better than the original gear. Hit me off list if you care to share your thoughts. Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation
chris cooper wrote: Im looking at 3 different 900 Mhz PTMTP systems - Trango, WR and Tranzeo. Im familiar with WR performance etc. Can anybody speak to Trango and Tranzeo? The Tranzeo cpe price point is pretty compelling. Ive heard that the new generation Tranzeo works much better than the original gear. Hit me off list if you care to share your thoughts. Waverider: Pretty solid stuff, but horribly overpriced IMO. Also the brand name has been passed around a couple times, and every few months I hear vicious rumors about how it's gonna get discontinued or at least re-made in a new and wholly incompatible way. Not bad, but there's better stuff out there. Built-in bandwidth management and QOS, and the polling mechanism is nice. Trango: Haven't used their 900 gear. Tranzeo: Amazingly awesome. The same unit is AP and CPE (just flip a software switch), so you don't have to keep two kinds of spares on the shelf. Reasonably priced, very flexible (client devices can be transparent bridges or NATting routers depending on what your customers need). This is all based on gear we've bought and used in the last six months or so; I can't speak to the old Tranzeo gear. No built-in bandwidth management, so you may need something else at your tower for that, but a Routerboard is cheap. Also consider Motorola's Canopy gear (I haven't used it, but some folks swear by it). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] StarOS and VOIP
CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Matt, What or do you have any experience with StarOS and 900mzh? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California I have 16 900MHz sectors now. All but 2 of them are star running 50/50 SR9 and XR9 I'm fairly happy. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Plenum LMR400 Source
Anyone know a good source for Plenum rated cable equivellent to LMR400? I got two Part Numbers: Commscope WBC-400P ($1.79 ft) Times 400LL-PL-BK ($3.70/ft) Any place to get it cheaper? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Hi, I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does anyone know the status on this or if it was even real? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] EZ Times Connectors
I was going to try out the Times EZ style connectors for LMR400. I saw several part numbers, Specifically... EZ-400-NMH-D EZ-400-NMK They were referenced as spring tipped versus captived or something like that. Anyone know the difference? What are preferred to use? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Plenum LMR400 Source
Anything plenum rated is going to be expensive. You can look at Andrews 1/2 hardline but that will probably be more expensive yet Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Plenum LMR400 Source Anyone know a good source for Plenum rated cable equivellent to LMR400? I got two Part Numbers: Commscope WBC-400P ($1.79 ft) Times 400LL-PL-BK ($3.70/ft) Any place to get it cheaper? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT vs StarOS
Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors
This are the ones we have been using for years. Male Tessco part number: 431926 -Cameron Midcoast Internet Solutions Rockland, Maine I was going to try out the Times EZ style connectors for LMR400. I saw several part numbers, Specifically... EZ-400-NMH-D EZ-400-NMK They were referenced as spring tipped versus captived or something like that. Anyone know the difference? What are preferred to use? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
We have a mixed Network of MT and Star-OS. Last summer, we did a detailed, in-office analysis of throughput between the two OS's, using exactly the same equipment (a couple of Mini-ITX boxes) and just changing out the CF cards to switch between them. StarOS won hands down. It wasn't even close. Since then, any expansion has been exclusively StarOS. We still use MT for our main router. I really like their queue system. My dream would be the MT bells and whistles with the StarOS wireless driver. Probably never happen, but if I were MT, I would make a pretty offer to StarOS to license it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik FCC
Travis, Excuse the copy paste from an earlier post I made - but here is what copied. I thought I would share some of MikroTik's FCC certified gear with the list. These configurations were tested by Rogers Labs, Inc back in July and made available on the FCC site months ago along with their FCC certification. John Tully also stated this morning that there is more certifications covering more antennas Routerboards in the very near future. Looks like PacWireless was a HUGE portion of antenna choice!! Thanks MikroTik!! Model: R52 2412.0-2462.0 and 5740.0 - 5840.0 MHz 12 dBi Omni Directional OD24- 12 dBi Omni Directional OD58-12 13 dBi Omni Directional ODH24-13 17 dBi Sector SA24-90-17-WB 17 dBi Sector SA5-90-17-WB 19 dBi Panel PA24-19 24 dBi Panel PA58-24 28 dBi Grid GD5W-28 24 dBi Dish DC24HDPF1P-EZ 32 dBi Dish DA5W-32P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC Hi, I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does anyone know the status on this or if it was even real? Travis Microserv --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now. Not sure on anyone else. I think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down everyone else. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC Hi, I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does anyone know the status on this or if it was even real? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
Don't hold me to this, but I have been told from a very super reliable huge StarOS user that StarOS does not bridge well at all. If you are counting on bridging from your client/cpe to the AP -- - - StarOS is not an option. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Word on the FCC certified gear is that they are working with USA based resellers to get them up to speed to offer certified gear. It's all in the paperwork at this point in time and we all know that the devil is in the paperwork. It is on its way from what I understand and should be readily available in the near future. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now. Not sure on anyone else. I think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down everyone else. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC Hi, I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does anyone know the status on this or if it was even real? Travis Microserv - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
I dunno Star's details, but Mikrotik has something similar to Sync. but it may only apply to frequency. Mikrotik also has a certified CPE, the Crossroads. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation
I have one ptp link with trango 900. It's working well so far. It's been in place for about 2 years. Have to reboot from time to time. But not often. It's certainly not a good path. There are trees, buildings and maybe a hill in the way. marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation Im looking at 3 different 900 Mhz PTMTP systems - Trango, WR and Tranzeo. Im familiar with WR performance etc. Can anybody speak to Trango and Tranzeo? The Tranzeo cpe price point is pretty compelling. Ive heard that the new generation Tranzeo works much better than the original gear. Hit me off list if you care to share your thoughts. Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors
We just use the ez-400-nmh. Captive pin, no crimp or solder on the center pin. Just crimp the outside ring. I've also gotten some of the new screw together ones, no crimp at all needed. I'll see how it goes. marlon - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors I was going to try out the Times EZ style connectors for LMR400. I saw several part numbers, Specifically... EZ-400-NMH-D EZ-400-NMK They were referenced as spring tipped versus captived or something like that. Anyone know the difference? What are preferred to use? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
Interesting, I was hoping to switch a few towers over from War4 Metro's to the RB333's because the War4's are just too expensive. I have a tower with the radio's all on the ground so maybe I'll switch that one over and test it all first. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wallace L. Walcher Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS We have a mixed Network of MT and Star-OS. Last summer, we did a detailed, in-office analysis of throughput between the two OS's, using exactly the same equipment (a couple of Mini-ITX boxes) and just changing out the CF cards to switch between them. StarOS won hands down. It wasn't even close. Since then, any expansion has been exclusively StarOS. We still use MT for our main router. I really like their queue system. My dream would be the MT bells and whistles with the StarOS wireless driver. Probably never happen, but if I were MT, I would make a pretty offer to StarOS to license it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
StarV3 requires WDS to bridge - and since WDS is loosely defined and often proprietary between brands, it is often incompatible. In the same sense, we couldn't get our RB112s to bridge either with a StarV3 access point. I think they both rely on their own systems to bridge properly. -Nick Mac Dearman wrote: Don't hold me to this, but I have been told from a very super reliable huge StarOS user that StarOS does not bridge well at all. If you are counting on bridging from your client/cpe to the AP -- - - StarOS is not an option. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
Check on the Valemount site and look for the X-4000. It is under $400 and has four radios and pigtails in it. Performance is equal to or better than the WAR4s or RB333s. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Interesting, I was hoping to switch a few towers over from War4 Metro's to the RB333's because the War4's are just too expensive. I have a tower with the radio's all on the ground so maybe I'll switch that one over and test it all first. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wallace L. Walcher Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS We have a mixed Network of MT and Star-OS. Last summer, we did a detailed, in-office analysis of throughput between the two OS's, using exactly the same equipment (a couple of Mini-ITX boxes) and just changing out the CF cards to switch between them. StarOS won hands down. It wasn't even close. Since then, any expansion has been exclusively StarOS. We still use MT for our main router. I really like their queue system. My dream would be the MT bells and whistles with the StarOS wireless driver. Probably never happen, but if I were MT, I would make a pretty offer to StarOS to license it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
I won't hold you to it mac. As long as your running the latest V3 Star-os on all the radios involved bridging works perfectly. I have a mostly all routed network, but I do have a 4 bridged PtP shots that work just fine. They are the first hops out of my noc to my network, Downtime hasn't happened. Nothing has not worked and no flakey weird issues have cropped up. On PtMP, I have no idea because it's routed. Best price I can find is a star-os or now called Lucaya, wp188 533MHz 4 port router that lonnie sells bundled with 4 23db cards in a weatherproof enclosure with power supply and poe. The price on that board if you pull out the cost of the cards etc is about 120-130.00. He's always running YSYL deals that is extra cheap. And it's 100% FCC certified. I haven't used MT, so I can't compare the two. I can only tell you what we have. George Mac Dearman wrote: Don't hold me to this, but I have been told from a very super reliable huge StarOS user that StarOS does not bridge well at all. If you are counting on bridging from your client/cpe to the AP -- - - StarOS is not an option. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation
I had 3 Trango 900 pops. One of them the ap worked but I couldn't get into it. I added a Ubiquiti XR9 sector and moved all the subs over to it. I was worried the XR9 wouldn't go where Trango would. Guess what, XR9 worked just fine. So performance wise, they are the same results to me. Speed on the XR9's are much much better. Price on the XR9 is cheaper at the cpe and at the pop, it's almost not even an expense. Not sure though, that the XR9's on a heavily loaded pop are going to perform as well. Seems I've heard some awfully high numbers from trango users over the years. May be a consideration. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I have one ptp link with trango 900. It's working well so far. It's been in place for about 2 years. Have to reboot from time to time. But not often. It's certainly not a good path. There are trees, buildings and maybe a hill in the way. marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation Im looking at 3 different 900 Mhz PTMTP systems - Trango, WR and Tranzeo. Im familiar with WR performance etc. Can anybody speak to Trango and Tranzeo? The Tranzeo cpe price point is pretty compelling. Ive heard that the new generation Tranzeo works much better than the original gear. Hit me off list if you care to share your thoughts. Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation
You had to change the CPE's as well as the POP to switch to the XR9, right? Or are you saying the XR9 is compatible with Trango? I always hoped that the Tranzeo 900MHz CPE would be compatible with the ubquity SR9 or XR9, but no luck so far. Blair George Rogato wrote: I had 3 Trango 900 pops. One of them the ap worked but I couldn't get into it. I added a Ubiquiti XR9 sector and moved all the subs over to it. I was worried the XR9 wouldn't go where Trango would. Guess what, XR9 worked just fine. So performance wise, they are the same results to me. Speed on the XR9's are much much better. Price on the XR9 is cheaper at the cpe and at the pop, it's almost not even an expense. Not sure though, that the XR9's on a heavily loaded pop are going to perform as well. Seems I've heard some awfully high numbers from trango users over the years. May be a consideration. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I have one ptp link with trango 900. It's working well so far. It's been in place for about 2 years. Have to reboot from time to time. But not often. It's certainly not a good path. There are trees, buildings and maybe a hill in the way. marlon - Original Message - From: "chris cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation Im looking at 3 different 900 Mhz PTMTP systems - Trango, WR and Tranzeo. Im familiar with WR performance etc. Can anybody speak to Trango and Tranzeo? The Tranzeo cpe price point is pretty compelling. Ive heard that the new generation Tranzeo works much better than the original gear. Hit me off list if you care to share your thoughts. Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
I think it's alot easier to deal with Mikrotik as a router wireless AP, due to the interface and ease of configuration. IP addresses, IP routes, bridging, DHCP, DHCP relay...many many things are very easy to configure in the Mikrotik interface. That said...the hardware, and the Atheros wireless driver in StarOS... I'm blown away. Massive throughput seriously low latency. We've configured a pair of WAR4-METROs in a PtP link with a SuperAG (40MHz) channel that has been pulling 70megs aggregate. There was a comment about how expensive the boards are... I don't think they're expensive at all. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS I won't hold you to it mac. As long as your running the latest V3 Star-os on all the radios involved bridging works perfectly. I have a mostly all routed network, but I do have a 4 bridged PtP shots that work just fine. They are the first hops out of my noc to my network, Downtime hasn't happened. Nothing has not worked and no flakey weird issues have cropped up. On PtMP, I have no idea because it's routed. Best price I can find is a star-os or now called Lucaya, wp188 533MHz 4 port router that lonnie sells bundled with 4 23db cards in a weatherproof enclosure with power supply and poe. The price on that board if you pull out the cost of the cards etc is about 120-130.00. He's always running YSYL deals that is extra cheap. And it's 100% FCC certified. I haven't used MT, so I can't compare the two. I can only tell you what we have. George Mac Dearman wrote: Don't hold me to this, but I have been told from a very super reliable huge StarOS user that StarOS does not bridge well at all. If you are counting on bridging from your client/cpe to the AP -- - - StarOS is not an option. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS Hi, Anyone care to help compare a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution to StarOS? Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone add their thoughts... Mikrotik features: graphical user interface (Winbox) more features (Torch, etc) more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.) Nstreme protocol very reliable StarOS features: FCC certified CPE lower price 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single change, such as frequency) OLSR feature VoIP priority with minimal config 200 CPE per wireless card (capable) Travis Microserv --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors
Thanks Guy, thats what I iwas looking for. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors This are the ones we have been using for years. Male Tessco part number: 431926 -Cameron Midcoast Internet Solutions Rockland, Maine I was going to try out the Times EZ style connectors for LMR400. I saw several part numbers, Specifically... EZ-400-NMH-D EZ-400-NMK They were referenced as spring tipped versus captived or something like that. Anyone know the difference? What are preferred to use? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation
Yes, I had to replace the trango cpe with a war1-xr9. Blair Davis wrote: You had to change the CPE's as well as the POP to switch to the XR9, right? Or are you saying the XR9 is compatible with Trango? I always hoped that the Tranzeo 900MHz CPE would be compatible with the ubquity SR9 or XR9, but no luck so far. Blair George Rogato wrote: I had 3 Trango 900 pops. One of them the ap worked but I couldn't get into it. I added a Ubiquiti XR9 sector and moved all the subs over to it. I was worried the XR9 wouldn't go where Trango would. Guess what, XR9 worked just fine. So performance wise, they are the same results to me. Speed on the XR9's are much much better. Price on the XR9 is cheaper at the cpe and at the pop, it's almost not even an expense. Not sure though, that the XR9's on a heavily loaded pop are going to perform as well. Seems I've heard some awfully high numbers from trango users over the years. May be a consideration. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I have one ptp link with trango 900. It's working well so far. It's been in place for about 2 years. Have to reboot from time to time. But not often. It's certainly not a good path. There are trees, buildings and maybe a hill in the way. marlon - Original Message - From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] 900 Mhz recommendation Im looking at 3 different 900 Mhz PTMTP systems - Trango, WR and Tranzeo. Im familiar with WR performance etc. Can anybody speak to Trango and Tranzeo? The Tranzeo cpe price point is pretty compelling. Ive heard that the new generation Tranzeo works much better than the original gear. Hit me off list if you care to share your thoughts. Thanks Chris WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
Travis, There are many things I do not like about both products, But there are more things that I like about them, and I can tell you that they are both very different products, and we use each of them for different purposes. I could spend hours answering your question. StarOS was a Rocky road, for a few version during their transition in bridging methods. But I can tell you that their later versions of Firmware are working great. We Bridge all our StarOS CPEs/APs today. The reason is we have a provisioning system at our master cell sites, so we use the STAROS boxes in a simple configuration, purposefully. We don't want Feature when we use it. We wanted reliabilty and simplicity. StarOS has accomplished that rather well. The new certified Lucaya systems pretty much sealed the deal, on the value it delivers. It is so rediculaously low priced now, for a 4 port system, its not even funny. The secret was 533Mhz 4-port boards board, and NOW THEY HAVE THEM. The value of STAROS is that it now does do rock solid True Bridging that you can count on. It does it with Auto-WDS. So it figures out on its own whether to WDS or Not. Its our preferred choice for a AP and CPE, without a unique need otherwise. First thing to realize is that Radio software brands will NOT be interchangable in the new generation, because of the trend of using true bridging via WDS. All the manufactuerers do it differently. Sure you can use another brand to connect as a WIFI CPE, but for Bridging, you are stuck on the software platform. But thats no different than Mikrotik and Nstreme. What StarOS does is allows many many choises in hardware platforms. Its a happy day to know WARs, ADI, Lucaya, and many more are available. Where StarOS has failed is that they have not yet realized the value of 3-10 port Ethernet CPE systems. NOr have they realized the need for two Etherent ports on a low cost CPE. Mikrotik clearly has. Hardware defines when I use StarOS or MIkrotik, not Software. What about the 1 story warehouse building type business parks? Or Shopping center? With no conduit or path from central telecom closet to suites, or for that matter no central closet. The only way to share CPE, is down through the roof. Usually through inside rooftop AC Compressors. Its a pain, finding an outdoor enclosure big enough for a switch, rated for outdoors, and AC power, etc. But wit hMikrotik it a turn key system ready to go with no hassle and no added cost. THIS IS INVALUABLE. THANK YOU MIKROTIK. Mikrotik was behind because they did not have fast enough mainboards. StarOS would outperform them. However, that is changing. The 400Mhz 532board performs much better. As do their new processor boards, so I hear. Mikrotik has a hidden cost. They give you their firmware, but you have to buy it in one year to keep getting upgrades. However StarOS, really give it for Free. Mikrotik is clearly the winner on having the most software features, and full fledged graphical interface, making them easy to configure. (PS I prefer not haviong the graphic interface for basic CPEs and APs). Its really easy to misconfigure Mikrotik. But Mikrotik can be a best of clss full fledge Cell router. (not saying that StarOS cant) I really like that StarOS has Iperf built in on the command line interface. Thats saved my but many a time, in finding where problems were with quality.. STAROS has OLSR for those that want more than just OSPF. Mikrotik now has MPLS, for those that want a bit more than OLSR and OSPF. I'd like to point out, one flaw in the Internet is the industry decided on destination based routing. There can be benefits to routing packets based on where they came from or any other criteria. MPLS helps solve that. I personally think its REAL BIG that Mikrotik is stepping up first to offer a MPLS implementation. StarOS is easier to managem, because its interface can be gotten to from anty device any where with SSH. Mikrotik's Winbox is really nice, but you need to be at a graphical PC to use. Although it has command line option, its a bit clunky, compared to StarOS's nice menu driven console. I think Mikrotik does a better job at getting the radio cards to put out the power you are configuring them to put out. With StarOS, never really know what the cards are really putting out, if the hardware or software is setting the actual speed. Doing feature to feature comparisons are jsut to encumbersome now, they both support to many features :-) I make the dsecssions based on the primary basic features. I will tell you, LigoWave still puts out the very best quality hardware system for 4 port system. Ligo software is comming around, and getting powerful, but still much more slower to use the configuration console. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
