Re: [WISPA] Thieves Steal Tower

[3-dB Networks]

I thought everyone had those on their towers :-)

Seriously though, IP cameras are great.  The reason we got to know inscape
is someone was messing with one of Mesa's remote towers.  So everytime
someone came up the road to this mountain top our camera would start
recording and send us an alert.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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Too bad you couldnt do something like this:
http://www.24x7updates.com/FullStory-News-Remote_control_rifle_range_debuts-
ID-32685.html
-R

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Patrick Shoemaker
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> Wow. On a similar note:
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http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21079972-Our-site-was-vandelized-Sat-mornin
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Re: [WISPA] Thieves Steal Tower

[RickG]

Too bad you couldnt do something like this:
http://www.24x7updates.com/FullStory-News-Remote_control_rifle_range_debuts-ID-32685.html
-R

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Patrick Shoemaker
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> Wow. On a similar note:
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21079972-Our-site-was-vandelized-Sat-morning-and-Sunday-morning
>
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> President, Vector Data Systems LLC
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>> Anyone see this: http://www.wjactv.com/news/17432092/detail.html
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Re: [WISPA] Thieves Steal Tower

[RickG]

Yours take 30 seconds. I swear I've got one guy who calls 30 seconds
before :) -RickG

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> All the more reason to make sure that you have a wisp on your unused tower!
> Customers would have called us within 30 seconds of an outage :-).
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[RickG]

I want to convert 2.4GHz to 5.8GHz for exactly that reason: to have
the radio at the bottom and the antennas at the top.
Good comments from all (as always). Thanks! -RickG

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:28 AM, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have some RF KLInx 2.4 to 900MHz frequency converters that have been
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> soon be coming out and replaced with a new product.
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> One place I thought frequency converters would be nice is on towers that
> are too tall to run cable for 5 gig.
> Would be nice to have a converter that lowers it from 5 gig at the
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> Isn't that how Breezecom Alvarion did some of their stuff in the past?
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>> Whats the downside to using frequency converters?
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Re: [WISPA] PowerCode

[John McDowell]

Mark,

I was with you there around the same time with very similar sentiments.
Among other things I was trying to get something resolved on our Vox Voip
service and billing it through powercode. Although we haven't come to a
solution on that, mainly being I'm not willing pay for it nor try it at the
moment and instead paying my accounting lady overtime to keep track of Vox's
bills and our voip customer overages.

But, having said that. I believe the guys at PowerCode have made some very
good changes, one of the main ones being the ticketing system you just
mentioned. I've had a lot of success with our tickets and problems.

They are putting out new code almost everyday, and they actually explain the
bug fixes and new features on the homepage for every release.

We are learning to use the new Inventory module which actually lets you
barcode scan a Subscriber Mac address right off the box.

Another cool feature that we haven't tested yet is the new Mac Address
learning feature that allows customers to plug in their own device and PC
will auto-add. Customer can check all this through their portal.


All in all...PC is still the most advanced WISP billing and OSS on the
market, hands down.

And I'm with you Mark, I have a renewed sense of confidence in their support
and flagship product, the billing, crm, and bandwidth management.


Glad to hear you've got an Imagestream BMU. Trust me, it makes a world of
difference.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I gave off a little rant awhile back about how PowerCode wasn't being
> responsive, and I'd like to update that.  They are now being pretty
> responsive to bug reports.  One of the first things they did was to set me
> up with a new customer portal so that I can create my own tickets for their
> support.  I can login to the portal and see what's been done on my tickets,
> and there are email notices as well when a ticket has been updated.  This,
> by the way, is the same portal system that the PowerCode software allows me
> to use for MY customers to be able to create and update tickets.
>
> There have been some changes, some major some minor.  They made a
> fundamental change in the way that contacts are handled.  This jostled my
> guys a bit but we're getting used to it.  A couple of my issues were
> resolved.  A big one is that my "virtual server" is now in my timezone!
> That was huge for alot of reasons (accounting, CRM, logs, billing now
> happens on the 1st day of THIS month instead of the last day of LAST
> month).
>
> So there are still several little things that are hanging out there, but I
> feel that my concerns ARE being addressed.  Meaning, my TICKETS are being
> updated and I can see progress, and I'm happier now.  I'm seeing new
> features all around PowerCode.  I've purchased (though not implemented yet)
> an ImageStream BMU, so that should speak to my confidence level.  That
> thing
> was $1900...
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> Seems they are progressing.
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Sales CRM sugestion

[Tom DeReggi]

Ther are always the generic products

SugarCRM, Salesforce.com, Goldmine.  All good products, to maximize sales 
rep's processes.

However, I'd like to see a product that integrates into a WISP operations 
system, with opportunity management, easilly converting to orders for 
provisioning.
I believe Intrameda's Boss has some features for process flow engineering, 
which I bet potentially could integrate into sales automation?.

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> What you guys suggest for a Salesforce CRM?
>
> We have 2 Sales persons for business accounts ...
>
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[WISPA] PowerCode

[Mark Nash]

I gave off a little rant awhile back about how PowerCode wasn't being 
responsive, and I'd like to update that.  They are now being pretty 
responsive to bug reports.  One of the first things they did was to set me 
up with a new customer portal so that I can create my own tickets for their 
support.  I can login to the portal and see what's been done on my tickets, 
and there are email notices as well when a ticket has been updated.  This, 
by the way, is the same portal system that the PowerCode software allows me 
to use for MY customers to be able to create and update tickets.

There have been some changes, some major some minor.  They made a 
fundamental change in the way that contacts are handled.  This jostled my 
guys a bit but we're getting used to it.  A couple of my issues were 
resolved.  A big one is that my "virtual server" is now in my timezone! 
That was huge for alot of reasons (accounting, CRM, logs, billing now 
happens on the 1st day of THIS month instead of the last day of LAST month).

So there are still several little things that are hanging out there, but I 
feel that my concerns ARE being addressed.  Meaning, my TICKETS are being 
updated and I can see progress, and I'm happier now.  I'm seeing new 
features all around PowerCode.  I've purchased (though not implemented yet) 
an ImageStream BMU, so that should speak to my confidence level.  That thing 
was $1900...

Seems they are progressing.

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Sales CRM suggestion

[John McDowell]

Yeah, I don't know exactly what a true CRM program is but PowerCode has been
a great tool for us to follow sales from lead to activation.

Brian! I Put in a special feature request to have your awesome coverage maps
integrated with PowerCode.

Powercode maps all your leads, subs, APs etc into a Google Maps API then
shows their proximity to each other...how cool would it be if you could
overlay our propagation maps with that???

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Brian Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I hear PowerCode now does CRM.
>
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>
> Thank You,
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> www.wirelessmapping.com 
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> What you guys suggest for a Salesforce CRM?
>
> We have 2 Sales persons for business accounts ...
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Re: [WISPA] Thieves Steal Tower

[Marlon K. Schafer]

All the more reason to make sure that you have a wisp on your unused tower! 
Customers would have called us within 30 seconds of an outage :-).
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Noise!
Cost.
marlon

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Sales CRM suggestion

[Brian Webster]

I hear PowerCode now does CRM.



Thank You,
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What you guys suggest for a Salesforce CRM?

We have 2 Sales persons for business accounts ...

thanks

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[WISPA] OT: Sales CRM sugestion

[Gino Villarini]

What you guys suggest for a Salesforce CRM?

We have 2 Sales persons for business accounts ... 

thanks

Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Need- Alvarion 900AU

[Rick Harnish]

Cliff,

According to the Google Docs Spreadsheet, Chuck Bartosch had one at Ebay
Pricing to sell.  His email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
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We lost an Alvarion 900 AU during Gustav, primarily the ODU part.

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[WISPA] Need- Alvarion 900AU

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We lost an Alvarion 900 AU during Gustav, primarily the ODU part.

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[WISPA] Motorola Prizm and Emerald Billing Software

[Jory Privett]

Has anyone here successfully integrated the Motorola Prizm software 
Northbound Interface API with the Emerald Billing system?

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Re: [WISPA] Redline Wimax Rough Pricing

[Eric Muehleisen]

I'm not sure on that. We've only ordered a few to test with and that was 
pre-certification. I'm sure the price has gone down since then. I'm sure 
you could get close to that $300 number if you order in bulk.

-Eric

John McDowell wrote:
> What is pricing on SU-I now?
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>> Roughly $7-8k for basestation and $300 per SU if ordered by the pallet
>> (72). If you have the budget go for the AN-100UX. It will give you much
>> needed power and help you reach EIRP. This would also make it possible
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Re: [WISPA] Redline Wimax Rough Pricing

[John McDowell]

What is pricing on SU-I now?

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Re: [WISPA] Redline Wimax Rough Pricing

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Roughly $7-8k for basestation and $300 per SU if ordered by the pallet 
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[Tom DeReggi]

John,

The radios I was referring to when I mentioned 23G under $6k was Snaplink.
But I mistakenly stated the spectrum, it is actually 24Ghz unlicened.
Its a FDX 50mbps link.  Its a good affordable option, when its a short 
distance, and top speed is not needed.
Still not as low as I'd like, down to Atheros/SBC pricing, or ext freq 
converter.

However, based on Trango's new low promo prices, its hard to justify using 
anything else for backhaul.

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>I wish someone made a frequency converter to go from 5.8 to 24 GHz. There 
>is
> 250 khz of open unlicensed space at that frequency which would be ideal 
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> backhaul use in places where we are tight in 5.8. I would be using a paif 
> of
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[John Scrivner]

Just talked to them. Price is too high. They want about $6 to $7 grand for a
link. Too rich for my blood.
Scriv


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John
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> It is for me. In the places where I use up all my 5.8 I need more
> bandwidth
> more than I need more power.
> Scriv
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> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown - 3
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> > - Original Message -
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> There
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> ideal
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> > > backhaul use in places where we are tight in 5.8. I would be using a
> paif
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[Gino Villarini]

John

Check out Snaplink radio . com

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It is for me. In the places where I use up all my 5.8 I need more
bandwidth
more than I need more power.
Scriv


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> Unlicensed 24 GHz has so little power that it is only good for a mile
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There
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ideal
> > for
> > backhaul use in places where we are tight in 5.8. I would be using a
paif
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[John Scrivner]

It is for me. In the places where I use up all my 5.8 I need more bandwidth
more than I need more power.
Scriv


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> Unlicensed 24 GHz has so little power that it is only good for a mile or
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Re: [WISPA] Redline Wimax Rough Pricing

[Gino Villarini]

An100 is around $8k , SUO are in the $450's

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Anyone have any idea on Redline's pricing for their AN-100U
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[WISPA] Redline Wimax Rough Pricing

[tfadgen]

Anyone have any idea on Redline's pricing for their AN-100U
and SU-O 's?



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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[Gino Villarini]

Ithink someone has already on the market an upconverted 802.11x radio to
25 ghz, Snaplink IIRC

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Most radios have some sort of intermediate frequency; the chips that 
process the data don't work at 5.8ghz, etc...  Satellite systems work 
much the same way; your 12ghz dish/directtv/fta doesn't work on an rg6 
cable at that frequency.

The Alvarion BA-II tower gear has the downconverter electronics in the 
outdoor unit. I'm not sure, but I think it was in the 400mhz range that 
the DC+RF went to the base. They came with RG58 cables which technically

worked perfect, but were a bit fragile on the ends. We could run lmr400 
300+ feet with no problems and use lightning arrestors that support DC 
power. That what the system is for; so there would be no serious cable 
loss on long runs. Probably most of the coax based split system radio 
links work in a similar way. We've had zero problems with the indoor 
portions of these systems. If there is lightning damage, it's typically 
isolated to the outdoor part. I'd rather lose an outdoor unit than a 
whole site's ethernet ports.

I'd tested the ubiquity sr9 cards when they came out; they convert 2.4 
to 900. It picked up too much 2.4 interference from other radio cards 
for my liking. 


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 07:28:19AM -0700, George Rogato wrote:
> I have some RF KLInx 2.4 to 900MHz frequency converters that have been

> on operation for about 6 years now. They work fine altthough they will

> soon be coming out and replaced with a new product.
> 
> One place I thought frequency converters would be nice is on towers
that 
> are too tall to run cable for 5 gig.
> Would be nice to have a converter that lowers it from 5 gig at the 
> bottom and brings it back to 5 gig at the top, this way the radios can

> stay at the bottom.
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> Isn't that how Breezecom Alvarion did some of their stuff in the past?
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Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

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Huge diff between SA and Nigeria...
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> In the case of South Africa I know what is going on. The government owns 
> the
> phone company there. There is a conflict of interest. The regulators get
> paid by the same people running the phone company. It would be like AT&T
> being owned by the FCC or vice-versa. How hard do you think we would have 
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> here then? I am guessing that other countries in Africa have similar
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> Scriv
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

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Unlicensed 24 GHz has so little power that it is only good for a mile or 
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>I wish someone made a frequency converter to go from 5.8 to 24 GHz. There 
>is
> 250 khz of open unlicensed space at that frequency which would be ideal 
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

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Most radios have some sort of intermediate frequency; the chips that 
process the data don't work at 5.8ghz, etc...  Satellite systems work 
much the same way; your 12ghz dish/directtv/fta doesn't work on an rg6 
cable at that frequency.

The Alvarion BA-II tower gear has the downconverter electronics in the 
outdoor unit. I'm not sure, but I think it was in the 400mhz range that 
the DC+RF went to the base. They came with RG58 cables which technically 
worked perfect, but were a bit fragile on the ends. We could run lmr400 
300+ feet with no problems and use lightning arrestors that support DC 
power. That what the system is for; so there would be no serious cable 
loss on long runs. Probably most of the coax based split system radio 
links work in a similar way. We've had zero problems with the indoor 
portions of these systems. If there is lightning damage, it's typically 
isolated to the outdoor part. I'd rather lose an outdoor unit than a 
whole site's ethernet ports.

I'd tested the ubiquity sr9 cards when they came out; they convert 2.4 
to 900. It picked up too much 2.4 interference from other radio cards 
for my liking. 


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> I have some RF KLInx 2.4 to 900MHz frequency converters that have been 
> on operation for about 6 years now. They work fine altthough they will 
> soon be coming out and replaced with a new product.
> 
> One place I thought frequency converters would be nice is on towers that 
> are too tall to run cable for 5 gig.
> Would be nice to have a converter that lowers it from 5 gig at the 
> bottom and brings it back to 5 gig at the top, this way the radios can 
> stay at the bottom.
> 
> Isn't that how Breezecom Alvarion did some of their stuff in the past?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] StarOS VSD

[Steve Barnes]

Thanks for the reply. I am just starting to set it up today and I may
get back with you if I don't come up with answers.  Was just looking for
a second info source.

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We use it. I'm the one on the forums that pointed you in that direction.

If someone else can't step up to the plate, I can get you in contact 
with Mike, our admin and have you talk to him on the phone.
Although, today is probably not a good day to try to squeeze in that 
phone call. He is working on some tedious stuff.

George

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functionality
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Re: [WISPA] 2.4 cars for MT AP

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Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

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In the case of South Africa I know what is going on. The government owns the
phone company there. There is a conflict of interest. The regulators get
paid by the same people running the phone company. It would be like AT&T
being owned by the FCC or vice-versa. How hard do you think we would have it
here then? I am guessing that other countries in Africa have similar
conflicts of interest or corruption which leads to businesses being unable
to work in an environment where regulations are a moving target or they are
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Re: [WISPA] StarOS VSD

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We use it. I'm the one on the forums that pointed you in that direction.

If someone else can't step up to the plate, I can get you in contact 
with Mike, our admin and have you talk to him on the phone.
Although, today is probably not a good day to try to squeeze in that 
phone call. He is working on some tedious stuff.

George

Steve Barnes wrote:
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[WISPA] StarOS VSD

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Anyone using StarOS VSD Feature.  I would love to get some functionality
questions answered and find out how you have it configured.  What you
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

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Actually what you are describing is very similar to what they did. They used
an intermediate frequency to feed between the base and the tower. The
difference is that there are likely more frequency conversions in your
scenario than the Alvarion / Breezecom setup. In their systems there is only
one up / down conversion at the top.
Scriv


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> I have some RF KLInx 2.4 to 900MHz frequency converters that have been
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> soon be coming out and replaced with a new product.
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> One place I thought frequency converters would be nice is on towers that
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> Would be nice to have a converter that lowers it from 5 gig at the
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> stay at the bottom.
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> Isn't that how Breezecom Alvarion did some of their stuff in the past?
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Re: [WISPA] Best of WiMAX World

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If we win it I would think it would be interesting for WISPA itself to  
issue a press release about one of its members. Anything we do PR wise  
will only be strengthen with the help of others. I expect Redline may  
well do something similar since we use their WiMAX radios.

-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[George Rogato]

I have some RF KLInx 2.4 to 900MHz frequency converters that have been 
on operation for about 6 years now. They work fine altthough they will 
soon be coming out and replaced with a new product.

One place I thought frequency converters would be nice is on towers that 
are too tall to run cable for 5 gig.
Would be nice to have a converter that lowers it from 5 gig at the 
bottom and brings it back to 5 gig at the top, this way the radios can 
stay at the bottom.

Isn't that how Breezecom Alvarion did some of their stuff in the past?

George

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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[John Scrivner]

I wish someone made a frequency converter to go from 5.8 to 24 GHz. There is
250 khz of open unlicensed space at that frequency which would be ideal for
backhaul use in places where we are tight in 5.8. I would be using a paif of
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Re: [WISPA] Thieves Steal Tower

[Patrick Shoemaker]

Wow. On a similar note:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21079972-Our-site-was-vandelized-Sat-morning-and-Sunday-morning


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[WISPA] Thieves Steal Tower

[3-dB Networks]

Anyone see this: http://www.wjactv.com/news/17432092/detail.html

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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[Patrick Nix Jr.]

What frequency are you wanting to convert? We used 2.4 - 5.8 converters
for a backhaul link for several years it was only after lightning took
out one radio that we changed it to an actual PtP bridge.  Ours was
karlnet 2.4 with Orinoco card and 2.4 t0 5.8 converter.  Used winncom
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I always appreciate your input, have you tried them? I'd love to hear
from someone that has and their experience.
-RickG

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> I'm not sure there is any significant disadvantage. Other than the
obvious,
> such as another point of failure, another connection to add loss, mild
loss
> of energy in the conversion, additional cost.
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>> Mike,
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>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Mike Hammett
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Re: [WISPA] DSL Tariffed

[Chuck McCown - 3]

Sometimes.  A NECA ILEC has the choice.
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Re: [WISPA] frequency converters

[Blair Davis]

I have a pair of RF-Linx 900MHz-2.4GHz units in service for several
years now.  They work fine for a PtP link thru a dense tree area...

RickG wrote:

  Mike,

Have you tried them? Anyone?

-RickG

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