[WISPA] New form of RSTP?
I am starting to think I am going crazy. Actually I have suspected this for a long time now. grin I was sure I saw a recent announcement here from Mikrotik that they have developed a new proprietary form of RSTP (reliable spanning tree protocol) type of layer 2 fail over support and now I cannot find this when I search for it. If anyone else saw this announcement can you please reply with a link to the story about this? I am building a backhaul ring in my network and want layer 2 failover for this backhaul ring. I am considering using Mikrotik. If anyone has similar experience with actual RSTP switching failover in the field and want to share your thoughts on implementation, issues and/or other similar options I would welcome your thoughts. Thank you, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New form of RSTP?
There is RSTP in current revisions of MT. Is there a reason its not a routed backbone though? Failover etc works so much better. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* John Scrivner wrote: I am starting to think I am going crazy. Actually I have suspected this for a long time now. grin I was sure I saw a recent announcement here from Mikrotik that they have developed a new proprietary form of RSTP (reliable spanning tree protocol) type of layer 2 fail over support and now I cannot find this when I search for it. If anyone else saw this announcement can you please reply with a link to the story about this? I am building a backhaul ring in my network and want layer 2 failover for this backhaul ring. I am considering using Mikrotik. If anyone has similar experience with actual RSTP switching failover in the field and want to share your thoughts on implementation, issues and/or other similar options I would welcome your thoughts. Thank you, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
Depending on vendor, 2xT1 here is around that price and I'm only an hour drive to downtown Chicago. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo Who is to blame for this all you can eat fiasco? My guess would be AOL back in the dialup days. I just can't seem to believe that the telco's followed suit, of course back then, the FCC rules were a little different. I guess the buffet has spread over to the broadband times. Not much you could do on dial-up at buffet level..when all speeds were basically the same and you could guess at bandwidth based on the amount of backbone bandwidth you had available compared to ports, but now it makes it hard to predict usage levels if you have various bandwidth plans. I think some applications have bypassed the amount of bandwidth we have available to us to stay in business. Of course, I operate in BFE where a 2XT1 cost over $1300/mth. The FCC thinks these new apps foster innovation...but it just spreads the digital divide even further IMHO. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:44:05 -0500 I think the problem is until the big boys change, us little guys can't change to a metered system. Right now cable, DSL, licensed WiMax, etc. are all unlimited usage. There is no way I could change to a pay per byte model without losing a ton of customers. Exactly. For those imposing bit caps where is the bit cap at? Here comcast is doing a 250GB bit cap then you here some of there customers whining how thats not fair. No way I can afford a 250GB per month user. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New form of RSTP?
RSTP is Rapid Spanning Tree Protocol Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] New form of RSTP? I am starting to think I am going crazy. Actually I have suspected this for a long time now. grin I was sure I saw a recent announcement here from Mikrotik that they have developed a new proprietary form of RSTP (reliable spanning tree protocol) type of layer 2 fail over support and now I cannot find this when I search for it. If anyone else saw this announcement can you please reply with a link to the story about this? I am building a backhaul ring in my network and want layer 2 failover for this backhaul ring. I am considering using Mikrotik. If anyone has similar experience with actual RSTP switching failover in the field and want to share your thoughts on implementation, issues and/or other similar options I would welcome your thoughts. Thank you, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1758 - Release Date: 10/31/2008 8:22 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
FWIW, my 3650 link seems to have a slight Austrian accent. Randy Mac Dearman wrote: Randy, Thanks for the link. Turns out we are ok since we leave all our settings at default, but it could have been very important. I wasn't aware of Ubnt doing any testing with MT. That's just good knowledge - thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are adjusting for correct power settings. See http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough explanation. Randy Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under frequency mode make sure that you have selected manual_txpower instead of regulatory domain or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory laws without you knowing. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date: 10/26/2008 7:53 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
ya? Randy Cosby wrote: FWIW, my 3650 link seems to have a slight Austrian accent. Randy Mac Dearman wrote: Randy, Thanks for the link. Turns out we are ok since we leave all our settings at default, but it could have been very important. I wasn't aware of Ubnt doing any testing with MT. That's just good knowledge - thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are adjusting for correct power settings. See http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough explanation. Randy Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under frequency mode make sure that you have selected manual_txpower instead of regulatory domain or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory laws without you knowing. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date: 10/26/2008 7:53 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President,
[WISPA] Sprint-Nextel Severs Its Internet Connection to Cogent Communications
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/081030/neth134.html?.v=1 Watch out if you are single-homed to either. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] billboards
Hi, Has anyone had success using billboards for small repeaters? Just a small backhaul antenna and a small omni? We are considering contacting some billboard companies about this, and I was just wondering what we may run into? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billboards
Travis Alan Marsalis was doing that before he sold ShreveNet. I believe the only real issue he had was electrical power not being at a lot of sites I know Clear Channel is doing site leasing on their billboards and I can't remember the name of the other big company that Alan was dealing with. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:48:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] billboards Hi, Has anyone had success using billboards for small repeaters? Just a small backhaul antenna and a small omni? We are considering contacting some billboard companies about this, and I was just wondering what we may run into? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billboards
Travis, We have one on a billboard at our Interstate exit. They had a sign that needed Internet connectivity for updates, so we worked out an agreement to provide the service at no cost if they allowed for a small 12db 2.4 omni to provide services to the area. We worked directly with the owner of the billboard and he is able to charge more for the LED signs that need Internet access. No issues. He pays electricity, did ask for insurance from us and we asked him for 24X7 access rights. Have never had to make a return trip yet. My guys hated it because it's a 80 ft monopole with peg legs. Very time consuming to climb. Thanks Dave Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Has anyone had success using billboards for small repeaters? Just a small backhaul antenna and a small omni? We are considering contacting some billboard companies about this, and I was just wondering what we may run into? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] For Sale: YDI AP Plus, Waverider EUM indoor Antennas, Cable Hangers
All on ebay if you want to search for them. Cable hangers are for 7/8 Heliax. Also, I have about 14 Waverider EUM indoor modems for sale, but will not list them on ebay until next week. Thanks -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MikroTik simple queues
Anyone out here know about MikroTik Simple Queues? I'm trying to get something like this... user with 1Mb/s limit can burst to 3Mb/s for 30sec but only if his average use in the previous 30sec is below 512Kb/s I've tried several things, but I am just not getting it to work. The objective is to speed web surfing and email while preventing long running downloads/uploads from plugging up the network for others. Anyone done this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik simple queues
You can easily do that minus the very last part about the last 30s usage in simple queues. On 10/31/08, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out here know about MikroTik Simple Queues? I'm trying to get something like this... user with 1Mb/s limit can burst to 3Mb/s for 30sec but only if his average use in the previous 30sec is below 512Kb/s I've tried several things, but I am just not getting it to work. The objective is to speed web surfing and email while preventing long running downloads/uploads from plugging up the network for others. Anyone done this? -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] I need to get my CWNA. Anybody know of any good training classes coming up?
I can do the 5-day class, and have the budget to travel in the Western US. I appreciate all your responses. Have a happy Halloween, and great weekend. Thanks, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik simple queues
Ok. I can live with a 1Mb/s limit with a short burst to 3Mb/s But how? I've managed to make simple queues do bandwidth limiting. But making the bursting work seems to be a different kettle of fish Josh Luthman wrote: You can easily do that minus the very last part about the last 30s usage in simple queues. On 10/31/08, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out here know about MikroTik Simple Queues? I'm trying to get something like this... user with 1Mb/s limit can burst to 3Mb/s for 30sec but only if his average use in the previous 30sec is below 512Kb/s I've tried several things, but I am just not getting it to work. The objective is to speed web surfing and email while preventing long running downloads/uploads from plugging up the network for others. Anyone done this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
