Re: [WISPA] tower site management

[Blake Bowers]

Marlon,

Monday when I am back in the office I will send you some samples that
we use when we take over management of a tower.


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> On 2/12/09 7:25 AM, "Marlon K. Schafer"  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've got a tower owner that's got a now nearly empty tower or about 80' 
>> on
>> the top of a 700 foot hill.  He doesn't want the hassle of dealing with
>> people that would like to go up there.
>>
>> He would, however, be interested in more rent money.
>>
>> It's been suggested that I manage the site and somehow split any revenue
>> with him.
>>
>> Is anyone else doing this?
>>
>> How do you go about such an arraignment?
>>
>> Anyone have a contract I can use as a boiler plate?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> marlon
>>
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Re: [WISPA] tower site management

[Cliff - Home]

Marlon,

Check with a Real Estate agent in your area. Many of them provide this type
of service for rental property owners.

The way the ones here work a percentage of the revenue. For their monthly
fee, they have to show the property when necessary, take tenant calls and
coordinate contractor repairs, etc.

What you describe seems familiar.

Good luck,
Cliff



On 2/12/09 7:25 AM, "Marlon K. Schafer"  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I've got a tower owner that's got a now nearly empty tower or about 80' on
> the top of a 700 foot hill.  He doesn't want the hassle of dealing with
> people that would like to go up there.
> 
> He would, however, be interested in more rent money.
> 
> It's been suggested that I manage the site and somehow split any revenue
> with him.
> 
> Is anyone else doing this?
> 
> How do you go about such an arraignment?
> 
> Anyone have a contract I can use as a boiler plate?
> 
> Thanks,
> marlon
> 
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Re: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?

[RickG]

Since we're on the subject, and RouterOS, what priorities do you put
on your traffic? Web, pop3, smtp, dns, icmp, ssl, ftp, snmp, etc...
-RickG

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Dennis Burgess
 wrote:
> RouterOS can identify Skype at layer 7 as well. .
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>> The problem I'm having is Skype is not impossible to detect, but it is
>> difficult and some QoS mechanisms miss it because it's designed to be
>> hard to detect and stop so it can slip out networks where the admin
>> tries to block IM apps. The better network security devices and detect
>> and filter or QoS it. But Skype doesn't use TOS or other QoS
>> prioritizing bits and it greatly varies the ports it uses in an effort
>> to not reveal itself. It's really quite amazing, if you have an
>> internet connection but you have a DNS issue (no DNS info being
>> propagated by DHCP for example) it will still find it's way out and
>> connect. It's one quick indication of a good network with bad DNS.
>>
>> Another problem is the newer P2P apps do likewise (random ports,
>> nondescript packets/data) in an effort to prevent ISP operators from
>> blocking or limiting it. So it's a continual game of cat and mouse
>> between the program authors and the net admin folks trying to detect
>> and control these things.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Have you done any packet captures?  If it is a small site, you might
>>> be
>>> able to look at the TOS bit and prioritize accordingly.  If you see a
>>> DSCP (TOS) of 46, I assume it is VoIP and tag it for queues.  In
>>> Mikrotik, there is a "connection type" option, and SIP is one of the
>>> options.  I also tag that one and set it to VoIP for the QoS rules.
>>>
>>> It gets most traffic, but don't know about Skype.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:18 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or x86) for
>>> doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based servers
>>> (ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for achieving
>>> good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff from
>>> killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as little
>>> router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having the
>>> layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and uTorrent. I'm
>>> getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any success stories?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Greg
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[lakeland]

www.planet.com
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Gino Villarini" 

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:26:54 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


I know thwy are lots of alternative, I wanted a recommendation for
something reliable

thanks 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:05 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Oh, well that's easy.  Any number of products are available that will do
what you need.  Just search fiber media converter.

We've had several TrendNet fiber media converters in service for years.
Some have been on rooftops in NEMA enclosures and have endured years of
heat and cold cycles without issue.  Considering the price of TrendNet
products they have far exceeded my expectations.  

http://www.trendnet.com/products/products.asp?cat=22

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:35 PM
To: WISPA General List; lakel...@gbcx.net
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Multimode to GigE Copper 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:11 PM
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Actually I was just about to step away from the WISPA Help Desk for a
bit.
Bob, feel free to take this call...  

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Disregard my last transmission. Brad has this covered

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Brad Belton" 

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:44
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:19 PM
To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145 

 





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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[lakeland]

We use the ones made by Plant or Planet?  Something like that and have never 
had a problem
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Gino Villarini" 

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:26:54 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


I know thwy are lots of alternative, I wanted a recommendation for
something reliable

thanks 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:05 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Oh, well that's easy.  Any number of products are available that will do
what you need.  Just search fiber media converter.

We've had several TrendNet fiber media converters in service for years.
Some have been on rooftops in NEMA enclosures and have endured years of
heat and cold cycles without issue.  Considering the price of TrendNet
products they have far exceeded my expectations.  

http://www.trendnet.com/products/products.asp?cat=22

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:35 PM
To: WISPA General List; lakel...@gbcx.net
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Multimode to GigE Copper 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:11 PM
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Actually I was just about to step away from the WISPA Help Desk for a
bit.
Bob, feel free to take this call...  

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Disregard my last transmission. Brad has this covered

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Brad Belton" 

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:44
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:19 PM
To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145 

 





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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

[St. Louis Broadband]

I have been watching the vote on C-SPAN today and it is incredible.  Most of
the Senate are complaining that they were to receive 48 hours after the
revisions to vote.  My understanding is that the text of the revised bill,
that can be found here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/24/house-stimulus-bill-full_n_160569.htmlis
what they are currently voting on.  There are lots that are complaining that
they have not had time to review, the now, 1000+ page document.

Victoria

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

> Its moving fast... The take on the new "conferance" bill is that 1/3 will
> now go to RUS and 2/3rd to NTIA.
> We are expecting to get the actual text by end of day.
>
> Tom DeReggi
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> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions
>
>
> > Tom, not sure where that information is coming from.  I have read Title
> > VI -
> > Broadband Communications.  This is the current text that has just been
> > passed by the House.  Is it buried some where other than that or the RUS
> > portion?
> > Thanks,
> > Victoria
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tom DeReggi
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> >> > I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather
> >> > than
> >> > RUS.  Any ideas on that?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes. They didn't want Rural advocates to take all the money.  Plus, RBOC
> >> want all the money for "next generation" fiber to the home, in more
> >> profitable areas to serve than rural.
> >> Also, its a situatiuon where this is a Stimulus Bill to create jobs, not
> >> necessarilly a bill to solve digital divide in Rural America. RUS is
> >> clearly
> >> only Rural focused. Thats my opinion on it.
> >> Whther that is the reason for sure, I do not know.
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[Gino Villarini]

I know thwy are lots of alternative, I wanted a recommendation for
something reliable

thanks 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:05 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Oh, well that's easy.  Any number of products are available that will do
what you need.  Just search fiber media converter.

We've had several TrendNet fiber media converters in service for years.
Some have been on rooftops in NEMA enclosures and have endured years of
heat and cold cycles without issue.  Considering the price of TrendNet
products they have far exceeded my expectations.  

http://www.trendnet.com/products/products.asp?cat=22

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:35 PM
To: WISPA General List; lakel...@gbcx.net
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Multimode to GigE Copper 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:11 PM
To: lakel...@gbcx.net; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Actually I was just about to step away from the WISPA Help Desk for a
bit.
Bob, feel free to take this call...  

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Disregard my last transmission. Brad has this covered

-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Brad Belton" 

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:44
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:19 PM
To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145 

 





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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[Brad Belton]

Oh, well that's easy.  Any number of products are available that will do
what you need.  Just search fiber media converter.

We've had several TrendNet fiber media converters in service for years.
Some have been on rooftops in NEMA enclosures and have endured years of heat
and cold cycles without issue.  Considering the price of TrendNet products
they have far exceeded my expectations.  

http://www.trendnet.com/products/products.asp?cat=22

Best,

Brad


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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Multimode to GigE Copper 


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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Actually I was just about to step away from the WISPA Help Desk for a
bit.
Bob, feel free to take this call...  

Best,


Brad


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Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Disregard my last transmission. Brad has this covered

-B-
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-Original Message-
From: "Brad Belton" 

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:44
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


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Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

[Tom DeReggi]

Its moving fast... The take on the new "conferance" bill is that 1/3 will 
now go to RUS and 2/3rd to NTIA.
We are expecting to get the actual text by end of day.

Tom DeReggi
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Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions


> Tom, not sure where that information is coming from.  I have read Title 
> VI -
> Broadband Communications.  This is the current text that has just been
> passed by the House.  Is it buried some where other than that or the RUS
> portion?
> Thanks,
> Victoria
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tom DeReggi 
> wrote:
>
>> > I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather
>> > than
>> > RUS.  Any ideas on that?
>> >
>>
>> Yes. They didn't want Rural advocates to take all the money.  Plus, RBOC
>> want all the money for "next generation" fiber to the home, in more
>> profitable areas to serve than rural.
>> Also, its a situatiuon where this is a Stimulus Bill to create jobs, not
>> necessarilly a bill to solve digital divide in Rural America. RUS is
>> clearly
>> only Rural focused. Thats my opinion on it.
>> Whther that is the reason for sure, I do not know.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[Gino Villarini]

Multimode to GigE Copper 


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-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Actually I was just about to step away from the WISPA Help Desk for a
bit.
Bob, feel free to take this call...  

Best,


Brad


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Disregard my last transmission. Brad has this covered

-B-
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-Original Message-
From: "Brad Belton" 

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:44
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


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Subject: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[Gino Villarini]

Gige is copper, dunno about the fiber.  Let me check .. .but is there a
particular brand I should go with? 


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Gige is fiber or copper?  Fiber in is singlemode or multimode?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:18:46
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Subject: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[Brad Belton]

Actually I was just about to step away from the WISPA Help Desk for a bit.
Bob, feel free to take this call...  

Best,


Brad


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Disregard my last transmission. Brad has this covered

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:44 
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?


Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


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Subject: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[lakeland]

Disregard my last transmission. Brad has this covered

-B-
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-Original Message-
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:26:44 
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Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


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Any recomendattions on a reliable unit?
 

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[lakeland]

Gige is fiber or copper?  Fiber in is singlemode or multimode?
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:18:46 
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber to Gige Converter ?

[Brad Belton]

Need more information.  What kind of fiber?  SM MM?  What kind of GigE
interface?  Copper or fiber.  If fiber is it SM or MM?

Brad


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[Gino Villarini]

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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

[St. Louis Broadband]

Tom, not sure where that information is coming from.  I have read Title VI -
Broadband Communications.  This is the current text that has just been
passed by the House.  Is it buried some where other than that or the RUS
portion?
Thanks,
Victoria

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

> > I do not understand why this is going under the NTIA umbrella rather
> > than
> > RUS.  Any ideas on that?
> >
>
> Yes. They didn't want Rural advocates to take all the money.  Plus, RBOC
> want all the money for "next generation" fiber to the home, in more
> profitable areas to serve than rural.
> Also, its a situatiuon where this is a Stimulus Bill to create jobs, not
> necessarilly a bill to solve digital divide in Rural America. RUS is
> clearly
> only Rural focused. Thats my opinion on it.
> Whther that is the reason for sure, I do not know.
>
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Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

[David E. Smith]

Dennis Burgess wrote:
> They are starting to roll out 60meg down 5up.   Only in "test markets" 

So far, that's one test market. Probably coincidental that the one 
market they're doing that (Saint Louis, MO) is the market where their 
corporate headquarters is located, and presumably where most of 
Charter's big execs live.

As far as whether Charter's bankruptcy filing will affect wireless 
operators in any meaningful way, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 
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Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

[Dennis Burgess]

They are starting to roll out 60meg down 5up.   Only in "test markets" 
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Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

[Mike Hammett]

Probably nothing, other than Charter may be more nimble in the future 
without all of that burden.


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Charter is set to file bankruptcy protection on or before April 1 as 
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Re: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?

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RouterOS can identify Skype at layer 7 as well. .

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os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
> The problem I'm having is Skype is not impossible to detect, but it is  
> difficult and some QoS mechanisms miss it because it's designed to be  
> hard to detect and stop so it can slip out networks where the admin  
> tries to block IM apps. The better network security devices and detect  
> and filter or QoS it. But Skype doesn't use TOS or other QoS  
> prioritizing bits and it greatly varies the ports it uses in an effort  
> to not reveal itself. It's really quite amazing, if you have an  
> internet connection but you have a DNS issue (no DNS info being  
> propagated by DHCP for example) it will still find it's way out and  
> connect. It's one quick indication of a good network with bad DNS.
>
> Another problem is the newer P2P apps do likewise (random ports,  
> nondescript packets/data) in an effort to prevent ISP operators from  
> blocking or limiting it. So it's a continual game of cat and mouse  
> between the program authors and the net admin folks trying to detect  
> and control these things.
>
> Greg
>
> On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
>
>   
>> Have you done any packet captures?  If it is a small site, you might  
>> be
>> able to look at the TOS bit and prioritize accordingly.  If you see a
>> DSCP (TOS) of 46, I assume it is VoIP and tag it for queues.  In
>> Mikrotik, there is a "connection type" option, and SIP is one of the
>> options.  I also tag that one and set it to VoIP for the QoS rules.
>>
>> It gets most traffic, but don't know about Skype.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
>> On
>> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:18 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?
>>
>> Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or x86) for
>> doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based servers
>> (ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for achieving
>> good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff from
>> killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as little
>> router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having the
>> layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and uTorrent. I'm
>> getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.
>>
>> Does anyone have any success stories?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Greg
>>
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Re: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?

[os10rules]

The problem I'm having is Skype is not impossible to detect, but it is  
difficult and some QoS mechanisms miss it because it's designed to be  
hard to detect and stop so it can slip out networks where the admin  
tries to block IM apps. The better network security devices and detect  
and filter or QoS it. But Skype doesn't use TOS or other QoS  
prioritizing bits and it greatly varies the ports it uses in an effort  
to not reveal itself. It's really quite amazing, if you have an  
internet connection but you have a DNS issue (no DNS info being  
propagated by DHCP for example) it will still find it's way out and  
connect. It's one quick indication of a good network with bad DNS.

Another problem is the newer P2P apps do likewise (random ports,  
nondescript packets/data) in an effort to prevent ISP operators from  
blocking or limiting it. So it's a continual game of cat and mouse  
between the program authors and the net admin folks trying to detect  
and control these things.

Greg

On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:

> Have you done any packet captures?  If it is a small site, you might  
> be
> able to look at the TOS bit and prioritize accordingly.  If you see a
> DSCP (TOS) of 46, I assume it is VoIP and tag it for queues.  In
> Mikrotik, there is a "connection type" option, and SIP is one of the
> options.  I also tag that one and set it to VoIP for the QoS rules.
>
> It gets most traffic, but don't know about Skype.
>
> Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?
>
> Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or x86) for
> doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based servers
> (ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for achieving
> good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff from
> killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as little
> router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having the
> layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and uTorrent. I'm
> getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.
>
> Does anyone have any success stories?
>
> Thanks!
> Greg
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Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

[RickG]

But all the nerds claim kaspersky or nod32 is the best? -RickG

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Scottie Arnett  wrote:
> >From Experience(I am a computer tech before a Wirless tech) I can tell you 
> >that ALL Antivirus products but AntiViri(Free for home use) let the Virut 
> >virus through. I just spent almost 61 hrs from 2/6/09 to 2/9/09 trying to 
> >clean Virut virus from a newspaper office PC. Even the maker of 
> >Combofix(that studies these for a living) said that once this virus gets on 
> >a PC that there are so many variants that no VirusScanner on the market can 
> >clean the infected files only delete, his advice were to reload everything!
>
> I did as he said, but with a copy of the infected hard drive. The paper 
> company needed their ads, but the hard drive they were on was infected, just 
> all the exe's and scr's. I reloaded and had a fresh copy of Avast Fully 
> updated installed after reload. I accidentally clicked on an exe infected 
> with the Virut virus and it did not catch it until it was to late and AVG did 
> not even see it! I had to completely reload the PC again and as soon as 
> Windows was loaded, I loaded Antiviri. Antiviri will not clean Virut files 
> but it will stop it from getting on the PC.
>
> Hope this helps all others out there that run an ISP and a PC shop.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:42:11 -0800
>
>>I have not had a single customer call or complaint from the users of Avast!
>>anti-virus.   It's pretty much just as effective as those phony firewall
>>things, and an excellent anti-virus.   Not to mention... it's FREE.A
>>sizeable portion of my customer base has switched from Norton and McCaffee
>>to Avast! on our reccommendation and as of yet, not one has reported a
>>single complaint to me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>>To: "WISPA General List" 
>>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:01 AM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner
>>
>>
>>> Get rid of Norton.  It's crap software these days.
>>>
>>> www.trendmicro.com or www.stop-sign.com are much better.  Norton and
>>> MacAfee
>>> make my phone ring all of the time.
>>>
>>> Stop Sign has been amazing.
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Steve Barnes" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:52 AM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner
>>>
>>>
 We have used angry IPSCANNER for years around the office for years to do
 odds and ends IP scans.  Norton Anti-everything hates it and the new 2009
 version wont let me exclude it.  Anybody have a program like it (windows)
 that I might Try that you like.

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Re: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?

[Eric Rogers]

Have you done any packet captures?  If it is a small site, you might be
able to look at the TOS bit and prioritize accordingly.  If you see a
DSCP (TOS) of 46, I assume it is VoIP and tag it for queues.  In
Mikrotik, there is a "connection type" option, and SIP is one of the
options.  I also tag that one and set it to VoIP for the QoS rules.

It gets most traffic, but don't know about Skype.

Eric


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?

Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or x86) for  
doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based servers  
(ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for achieving  
good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff from  
killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as little  
router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having the  
layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and uTorrent. I'm  
getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.

Does anyone have any success stories?

Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions

[St. Louis Broadband]

I hope someone is in their ear saying that they need to also take into
consideration PTP wireless for backhaul.  I have written my Senators.
Victoria
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On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

> Its what happens when polititions make technical decissions on soemthing
> they no nothing about.
> Most legislators don't realize the implications of the text that was
> written. But the lobby group that suggested the text certainly did.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "St. Louis Broadband" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions
>
>
> > >
> >> The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
> >>
> > AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
> >
> > eligible under the amended Sentate bill
> >
> > That is crazy. What is crazier is the other technologies they are
> > suggesting...Powerline and PtMP and 100 megs...humm.
> > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Tom DeReggi
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That text is wrong, it is from the old House bill.
> >>
> >> The Senate bill asks for advanced broadband to be 100mbps.
> >> AND only fiber, Powerline, and PtMP is eligible, PTP wireless is not
> >> eligible under the amended Sentate bill.
> >>
> >> Tom DeReggi
> >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "St. Louis Broadband" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:49 PM
> >> Subject: [WISPA] New Stimulus bill Broadband Definitions
> >>
> >>
> >> >I don't know if this will be revised before it is voted on, but it
> >> >appears
> >> > that it needs to be corrected:
> >> > In Title VI - BROADBAND COMMUNICATIONS (pg 661-662)
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/senate-stimulus-bill-full_n_163144.html
> >> > (j)
> >> > DEFINITIONS - for the purpose of this section - (1) the term "advanced
> >> > broadband service" means a service delivering data to the end user
> >> > transmitted at a speed of at least 45 megabits per second downstream
> >> > and
> >> > at
> >> > least 15 megabits per second upstream; (2) the term "advanced wireless
> >> > broadband service" means a wireless service delivering to the end user
> >> > data
> >> > transmitted at a speed of at least 3 megabits per second downstream
> and
> >> at
> >> > least 1 megabit per second upstream over and end-to-end internet
> >> > protocol
> >> > wireless network;
> >> > (3) the term "basic broadband service" means a service delivering data
> >> > to
> >> > the end user transmitted to a speed of at least 5 megabits per second
> >> > downstream and at least 1 megabit per second upstream;"
> >> >
> >> > So the "advanced broadband service" is your backhaul @ 45/15 mbps,
> >> > "advanced
> >> > broadband service" SHOULD BE 5/1 mbps and "basic broadband service"
> >> SHOULD
> >> > BE 3/1 mbps
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[WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?

[os10rules]

Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or x86) for  
doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based servers  
(ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for achieving  
good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff from  
killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as little  
router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having the  
layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and uTorrent. I'm  
getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.

Does anyone have any success stories?

Thanks!
Greg



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Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

[CHUCK PROFITO]

Well they just announced it...

http://tinyurl.com/dx99wd  

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